Comments on: Obama to overturn funding ban on embryonic stem-cell research

By: Patterico’s Pontifications » Obama aims to shield science from politics?

Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:13:14 +0000

[...] point here is not about the merits of human embryonic stem cell research, or funding same. Rather, it is about Pres. Obama and his [...]

By: Science is the Beginning, Not the End | The Great Illuminator

Science is the Beginning, Not the End | The Great Illuminator — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:00:04 +0000

[...] can not provide as timely or detailed commentary as Krauthammer and others here and here and here, but when you can find a lefty-leaning site like the Onion mocking how ridiculous it is to [...]

By: Obama’s Embryo Destruction « In Other Words

Obama’s Embryo Destruction « In Other Words — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 03:33:33 +0000

[...] at Hot Air, Ed Morressey puts his finger on what really happened. The advocates of this policy cheer the supposed triumph of [...]

By: AH_C

AH_C — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:13:14 +0000

If my life ever depends on being treated with embryonic stem cells, I will die. I have informed my next of ken of my choice.

darktood on March 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM

Ditto!!! I will not sacrifice another to Satan so that I may live beyond my appointed time

By: Maxx

Maxx — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:10:58 +0000

The Democrats just love to kill babies.

By: Obama Is the True Enemy of Science | Axis of Right

Obama Is the True Enemy of Science | Axis of Right — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:08:57 +0000

[...] a moment the moral problems with embyonic stem cell research, as well as the fact that absolutely no promise has been found in this area of science, Obama’s action is even more insideous, and makes him the true enemy of science. [...]

By: dedalus

dedalus — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:11:39 +0000

Life begins at conception. Who are you (or anybody) to say that conception has to involve a uterus? If anything you’ve made the case that all such research is immoral and unethical because man is playing God.

highhopes on March 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Much medical science involves playing God, at least to the extent that it thwarts or redirects nature. In vitro fertilization itself is performing in a lab what some leave to God.

By: highhopes

highhopes — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:02:18 +0000

When fertilization happens without a uterus, in a glass container pregnancy doesn’t begin. The embryo needs to be paired with a woman in order to gain nutrition and grow.

dedalus on March 10, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Life begins at conception. Who are you (or anybody) to say that conception has to involve a uterus? If anything you’ve made the case that all such research is immoral and unethical because man is playing God.

By: highhopes

highhopes — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:48:40 +0000

Try talking to women who actually — not hypothetically — had a miscarriage. The feeling of loss for a baby they never actually saw is very real.

Are they stupid?

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on March 10, 2009 at 12:00 AM

No, just not in synch with the left’s view that life has to crawl out of the womb and graduate from college before the state lifts a hand to protect it. Then, the left’s view of protecting life involves preventing the capital punishment of cop killers or administering justice to terrorists. A miscarriage haunts a family for the rest of their lives (did in my family’s case anyway).

The question I have for all the immoral monsters who see nothing wrong with using embryos for research is why stop there. Why not experiment on an in-utero fetus before performing abortions? Why not just bring these children to full term and turn them over to NIH for experimentation? After all, this life too would simply be discarded.

By: dedalus

dedalus — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:25:21 +0000

If you understand this, then perhaps it will help you understand pro-life.

itsspideyman on March 10, 2009 at 9:55 AM

For many the degree of mourning is related to the length of the pregnancy. When an embryo fails to implant, usually the woman isn’t aware that fertilization had occurred.

When fertilization happens without a uterus, in a glass container pregnancy doesn’t begin. The embryo needs to be paired with a woman in order to gain nutrition and grow.

By: LarryD

LarryD — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:03:56 +0000

This is worse than you think. By rescinding Executive Order 13435, Obama eliminated Federal support for anything but embryonic stem cell (ESC) research.

By: itsspideyman

itsspideyman — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:55:52 +0000

If for some reason my wife miscarriages, it’s a bummer because we both wanted a kid (in this hypothetical example), but I’m not gonna mourn a dead human. This is stupid.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM
When my sister-in-law (whom I don’t particularly like) miscarried, I mourned the loss.
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If my life ever depends on being treated with embryonic stem cells, I will die. I have informed my next of ken of my choice.

darktood on March 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM
If for some reason my wife miscarriages, it’s a bummer because we both wanted a kid (in this hypothetical example), but I’m not gonna mourn a dead human. This is stupid.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM
When my sister-in-law (whom I don’t particularly like) miscarried, I mourned the loss.
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If my life ever depends on being treated with embryonic stem cells, I will die. I have informed my next of ken of my choice.

darktood on March 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM

When my wife miscarried we mourned the loss; my wife, my son, and myself. She was a human being that was called to God before she was called to us. My wife still says she waits to see her in heaven.

If you understand this, then perhaps it will help you understand pro-life.

By: Wade

Wade — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:52:10 +0000

This is a good idea from BO. I was wondering where we were going to dump all the extra tax money.

By: right4life

right4life — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:25:34 +0000

If my life ever depends on being treated with embryonic stem cells, I will die. I have informed my next of ken of my choice.

darktood on March 10, 2009 at 5:23 AM

totally agree…

By: The Obligatory “Obama Lift Ban On Embryonic Stem-Cell Research” Post « Beltway Snark

Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:24:32 +0000

[...] Ban On Embryonic Stem-Cell Research” Post Jump to Comments I’ll start with the story itself, then I’ll explain why the whole issue is dumb. President Barack Obama will reverse [...]

By: Track-A-'Crat: The Roll Call Of Democratic Delinquency

Track-A-'Crat: The Roll Call Of Democratic Delinquency — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:51:26 +0000

I Know No Shame…

Yes, that is Nancy Pelosi kissing the Pope’s hand.
And, yes, I am using her support for President Obama’s human embryonic stem cell research as an excuse to again show the least sincere meeting (on Pelosi’s behalf) of two ideological…

By: Obama to Lift Ban on Fed Funds Used to Destroy Embryos for Stem Cells | The Great Illuminator

Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:32:22 +0000

[...] time off from his spendapalooza to sign an executive order on Monday lifting President Bush’s ban on the use of federal funds for embryonic stem cell [...]

By: jeff_from_mpls

jeff_from_mpls — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:12:57 +0000

I’d be heartened if I knew that Mr. Obama lost an hour of sleep over this, had a second thought, or looked out the White House windows at the stars up in the sky, and felt some of the humility the rest of us are familiar with.

But his ice cold and robotic visage yesterday dashed all hope. And the content of his prepared statement confirmed the worst: not only is the debate over, he actually took a warning shot at those of us who acknowledge a moral dimension in scientific decisions.

This was a chilling, calculated administrative act. It meant nothing to him on a personal level. And this mechanical detachment is an emerging pattern in the man. He is not a warm or thoughtful individual, and doesn’t seem to want to be.

History buffs, anything familiar here?

By: Jenfidel

Jenfidel — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:33:43 +0000

Does it not bother anyone that the Federal Government shouldn’t be in the research funding business at all???
Hello.
This is certainly not part of its duties to citizens as outlined in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
It doesn’t matter that it’s beneficial research, which is isn’t.
It doesn’t matter that it promotes the culture of death by using human embryos, which it does.
It’s a cost to taxpayers in a down economy that we couldn’t and shouldn’t afford.
Why the government started to “invest” in scientific research is beyond me, but it should be stopped as soon as possible.
If the private market can’t attract funds to research (and we know they can), then the government shouldn’t go in where the market fears to tread.
With Ogabe’s “we will cure cancer” remark, he opened a bottomless pit for the American taxpayer to throw money at the problem of research for the foreseeable future.
This act of his was a 2-fer: he continues to promote his Anti-Life position, along with the other pro-abortion things he’s done, and he gets to be once more the little boy who rebelled against his father, George W. Bush.
When President Bush made his decision, he gave a speech about it on TV, showing that his view was principled and well-thought out and even prayed over.
With NObama, we get no such soul-searching and this from a man who said that determining when life began in the womb was “above his pay grade.”
Apparently, it isn’t above his pay grade as he had now made the decision that Life certainly doesn’t begin with a fertilized embryo.
That being said, we still need to get Washington out of the research labs.
This isn’t a proper expenditure of our taxpayer money and never has been.

Oh, and with his statement that science shouldn’t be politicized, Obama will try to shut the door on those who deny that man-made global warming/climate change is real and taking place, too.
You’ve been warned!

By: darktood

darktood — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:23:32 +0000

If for some reason my wife miscarriages, it’s a bummer because we both wanted a kid (in this hypothetical example), but I’m not gonna mourn a dead human. This is stupid.
radiofreevillage on March 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM

When my sister-in-law (whom I don’t particularly like) miscarried, I mourned the loss.
.
If my life ever depends on being treated with embryonic stem cells, I will die. I have informed my next of ken of my choice.

By: Leaning Straight Up » Shocker: Obama restores Embryonic Stem Cell research funding

Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:47:28 +0000

[...] Hot Air points out some interesting facts: The advocates of this policy cheer the supposed triumph of science over politics, but in truth, it’s the reverse. Over a year ago, researchers found a way to unlock adult stem cells to have the same flexibility as hEsc lines, ie, the ability to transform into any kind of tissue. Bush’s policy in effect pushed the government-funded research in that direction, which prompted the breakthrough. With that process available, we have no need to grind up our offspring to cure diseases, especially since grinding up our offspring has yet to result in even one therapeutic result, despite billions of dollars of research into hEsc. A scientific approach would dictate that we follow success instead of failure. [...]

By: Bullhead

Bullhead — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:55:21 +0000

There had never been a cure of anything from embyronic stem cells but many from adult stem cells and umbilical cord cells. This is just one more example of Obama’s anti-life agenda and sucking up to the abortion lovers.

By: Can Somebody Whip Up A New Prez With These Embryos? « OutOfTheBlu

Can Somebody Whip Up A New Prez With These Embryos? « OutOfTheBlu — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:12:36 +0000

[...] With a few other things going on in the world, there’s no time for a national discussion so it…. [...]

By: GD

GD — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:01:35 +0000

What Is “Sacred” To The Democrats In Power? Do They Have A Meaning For This Word? I Dare Say NOT! This Is A Holy Word, Used By Godly People (How Can The UnGodly Do Godly Things?) It Means To Acknowledge The Hallowed Work Of GOD And To Keep It In Deep Reverance And Respect. Sacred Words, “What GOD Has Joined Together, Let Not Man Put Asunder” Conception Is Sacred

By: GunRunner

GunRunner — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:21:37 +0000

I had forgotten that the Scientist who was leading Stem cell research had made the whole Embryonic line unnecessary due to his research. He felt relieved because morally he felt the line of research was repugnant, so he was happy to end it. So except for a few morally crippled Liberals on HotAir, the question is moot.

In 1995, before any funding proposal had ever been approved by the NIH, Congress attached language to the 1996 Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act (the budget bill that funds DHHS and the NIH) prohibiting the use of any federal funds for research that destroys or seriously endangers human embryos, or creates them for research purposes.

Never confuse a Liberal with Facts. Remember, it’s all Bush’s fault. Everything. Even the Dinosaurs.