Fullerton Tea Party gets 15,000 protestors
posted at 12:15 pm on March 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
KFI’s John and Ken decided to put a little local star power behind the “tea party” tax protest movement in Southern California, and it succeeded beyond all expectations. As many as 15,000 protesters descended onto sleepy Fullerton to noisily demand an end to tax hikes in California and the nation:
They’re revolting. Families with children, bikers, seniors, pirates – by the thousands they descended on a Fullerton bar Saturday to join talk show hosts John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou of KFI in protesting tax increases recently approved in Sacramento.
Police estimated that some 8,000 people came to the Slidebar Café in downtown Fullerton to listen to a three-hour live broadcast of The John & Ken Show.
Some wore buttons. One man brought a bloody effigy head of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and waved it from the end of a pike, while the crowd joined their hosts in a chant of “Repeal, recall, revolt.”
Others directed their outrage at less personal synechdoche: “Total Recall” laser discs, action hero lunchboxes and other memorabilia from the governor’s Hollywood career, which they piled up and smashed with a sledgehammer.
Later estimates pushed the crowd to almost double that estimate, although crowd estimation is a highly inexact science. What was clear was that thousands of people took time on Saturday to join the protest, and in an area not terribly amenable to that kind of turnout. I used to live near there, and the area has narrow streets and terrible parking. In the last decade or so, Fullerton has revitalized that area as a shopping district, but it’s still more adaptable for coffee shops than political protests.
Nor is it easily served by transportation from around Southern California. KFI reaches a very wide geographic area in LA, throughout the entire basin, and the only freeway passing close by is the 91 Riverside freeway. The tea party had to create quite a bottleneck.
Fullerton itself is about as controversial as apple pie, not a hotbed of political subversion by any means. It’s the anti-Berkeley.Hot Air reader Vayapaso lives near that area, and tried to get close to the protest, to no avail. The crowds were massive even though by that point they had begun to disperse. It’s an impressive result in any case, but especially for an event planned in this sleepy burb.
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I’ll be at the Orlando tea party this month at Lake Eola. My signs are going to be brutal. I mean BRUTAL. I can’t wait.
marklmail on March 8, 2009 at 6:22 PM
From the live blog…
Uhm…yesterday I had on blue shorts and a tshirt with a grease stain on it. :-p
SouthernGent on March 8, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I am impressed and proud. Conservatives seem more at home on the blogosphere and don’t generally physically get out and protest.
Notice that the rally was on a weekend instead of during the work week when most of these people have jobs (that generate taxes).
watson007 on March 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM
FIFY
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM
This side of the isle laughs hysterically.
Like good RalphBoy already pointed out.
Entelechy on March 8, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Good to practice Democracy.
A couple of questions:
1. Why tea? The reason why the original Boston Tea Party happened was because specifically the government imposed a tax on tea. What is the significance of tea now? Even if you wanted to associate the movement with the original Boston protesters, wouldn’t it be better to clarify your protest? Right now the protest is so vague. The reason why the original protests were successful was because the protest was against something specific (the Tea Tax). These protests are vague. Do you want the stimulus package or not? Do you want to raise or lower taxes? Are you for or against the housing package? Do you want government action on the economy or not?
It is so unclear. The movement can grow but you need to clarify these protests.
2. Let’s say for a minute that you are protesting Obama raising taxes. Obama is just raising the top marginal tax rate to what it was under Clinton (39.5% or around 40%). Reagan for six years in office had the same tax rate at 60%. Besides, most people actually SUPPORT taxing the rich.
Again, for the movement to grow you need to show CLEARLY how this affects everyone.
The Boston Tea party was successful because the tea tax was an excise tax that affected EVERYONE.
There are other things but those are the biggest I see for now.
ckoeber on March 8, 2009 at 6:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfqhUyZA-oE
Video here. This is when Arnold’s head got chopped off.
Mark1971 on March 8, 2009 at 6:39 PM
More
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EodN-VkltSo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kteL41q0CQs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzOaQ9_mZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDcgBS6ZEMg
Mark1971 on March 8, 2009 at 6:43 PM
15,000 people and not one TV crew that I could see. If it was an anti-war,gays or illegals and only 50 people ahowed up it would be all over the national news. CA. Govt. employees has doubled in ten years and they are all Union. 13 billion dollars a year for illegals. People are angry. Seems like they want to chase all the hard working and business out of CA. The very people who pay the taxes. Than there will only be those on welfare and how can they support the state.
calgrammy on March 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Florida has always been a conservative state. I attended FSU back in the late 70′s and early 80′s. Enjoyed living there but found myself in Nevada and like it here. My parents are retired military living near Tampa. Lots of changes there since I was a student.
Jvette on March 8, 2009 at 6:44 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on March 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Hey, it’s bad enough that I’m now going to have to live with your agreement, DTMH, but all my fellow righties who had forgotten or temporarily put aside my status as an “immigration squish” have now been reminded.
I will say that I voted for 187, and was glad that it passed. I wasn’t as happy about the scare campaign that accompanied it, in particular the notorious TV ad that showed Mexicans rushing the border crossings unopposed, and like a lot of other conservative Californians I was dismayed to see the law stayed and then overturned by the courts, even as liberal Republicans implicitly supported the charge of racism against 187′s proponents. As a result, the Republicans got the worst of both worlds: They became the easy target of Latino race hustlers, weren’t able to deliver on the very centerpiece of the ’94 campaign, still saw the state overwhelmed, and suffered a party split that still hurts today. Republicans were also hurt because the immigration issue lost saliency during the late ’90s amidst economic boom times – we’ll see what happens to it in these ahem rather less than booming times.
In short, Proposition 187 probably deseres to replace “Pyrrhic” as the definition of a victory worse than a defeat.
Every conservative who’s serious (as opposed to merely enraged) about doing something pro-active about illegal immigration, or about reviving conservative fortunes in California and beyond, needs to review the history of 187, in my opinion. On the one hand, it was virtually the centerpiece of Wilson’s successful re-election campaign in ’94 against an attractive if flawed Democratic challenger. On the other hand, with the exception of ueber-RINO Arnold, Wilson’s victory was the last major state-wide victory for Republicans in what, as Speedwagon pointed, used to be closely split state, and origin of some of the most important national Republicans.
Here, by the way, is a link to a compilation of Pete Wilson’s memorable campaign ads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0f1PE8Kzng
They show you just how much our political culture has changed. It’s hard to imagine a Republican being as aggressively “incorrect” as Wilson was in ’94, but times change – and may change again.
CK MacLeod on March 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM
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Obama and company are spending without raising taxes… They own the printing presses, so even if the Chinese don’t buy the debt, the tax will be in the form of devalued dollars through inflation. Although I agree with message clarity, for now just gaining momentum against outrageous taxation and wussy politicians is a solid plus.
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And the heads on a stick chant is a great start. It won’t take long before the image of a conservative protest strikes fear in the hearts of those (for example) who would think to say ‘Nobody cares about pork.’
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Even the dimmies educated by the liberal teachers’ union know that the Boston Tea Party was a watershed moment. The straw that broke the camel’s back. The symbolism is powerful and sends a message that cannot be mistaken.
This is about a lot more than the unfair tax system in this country. It is about the liberty guaranteed in the Constitution. Not the kind liberals think it is, but true liberty that said the people own the resources and the government.
Obama and his minions want to return to the old ways of Europe. The belief that the government owns everything and doles it out to those most loyal to the crown. The Founding Fathers vehemently opposed this. Our government is supposed to protect and defend our liberty and our property, not insure that resources are equally distributed.
Those who attended the Constitutional Convention would recognize this tyranny of the majority for what it is. They would be appalled at what they would find happening in the halls of government.
So if past taxation rates are being used to justify the illegal taking of personal property, why doesn’t Obama just propose a return to the 90% rate of Jimmy Carter?
Jvette on March 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Wait until many of them go to buy cigarettes…hoo boy.
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 8, 2009 at 6:59 PM
OK, but in order to gain momentum you need clarity. Right now I am certain that many of the protesters there all have different grievances. Some want lower taxes, some want the government to stop bailing out the banks, and some want to have less ‘pork’ projects passed by the government.
Solidify the message and you have a real protest (100,000 plus).
On top of that, you have no major party leader taking the helm. The GOP is still in an internal struggle.
You also need someone to step up from the political side and help channel the anger/distrust/resentment into real action.
People won’t protest if they don’t see a clear, realistic outcome.
ckoeber on March 8, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I’ll also say regarding the Tea Party tax revolt that everything old is new again – not just the allusion to the protests at this country’s founding, but also the potential for California to lead the country for good and ill. If Proposition 8 reminds some of Prop 187, the Tea Party protests and the opposition to the Sacramento tax hikes are even more reminiscent not just of the Boston Tea Party, but also of the Howard Jarvis tax revolt that paralleled the rise of tax-cutter Ronald Reagan.
It’s a Jarvis law that required a 2/3 vote AND ballot approval to raise taxes. It’s conceivable – though hardly a sure or even an altogether likely thing – that this movement could shift political mountains, with a gubernatorial race next year and Barbara Boxer’s Senate seat also coming up in 2010.
CK MacLeod on March 8, 2009 at 7:06 PM
I have a dream that one day 1,000,000 people will march on Washington and clamor for change. No More Socialism! will read the placards. Obama Go Home! will read others. I have a dream that kids upset at having to inherit trillions of debt from their liberal parents will overturn cars and throw Molotov cocktails at the police protecting the corrupt politicians. No More Debt! No More Student Loans! will read the graffiti on overhead rail bridges. I have a dream that one day folk singers will write songs denouncing the redistribution of wealth, the invasion of illegals, and the polluting of our environment with those mercury-filled fluorescent light bulbs. I have a dream that one day a candidate for any office will be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin – or the hipness of his name.
keep the change on March 8, 2009 at 7:07 PM
It’s purely symbolic and invokes an earlier era when Americans got pushed around once too often.
Red Foreman from “That’s 70′s Show” (aka, that weaselly senator on “24″) said it best, “Americans don’t drink tea. We bomb people who drink tea.”
AaronGuzman on March 8, 2009 at 7:13 PM
See Obama’s cap and trade.
Imposing a gigantic tax/fee on every single US manufacturer, energy company, oil refineries…
Every single US business, both big and small would be subject to “carbon” tax.
Everything we import, everything we export would be under the same rules.
A tiny little family trucking company would be told how much carbon they are releasing and either eliminate it the carbon or they would have to trade or purchase the carbon credits to stay in business.
In order to stay in business, they have to pass the cost on to the American consumer. Every American consumer!
This is in Obama’s budget. It so massive of a tax increase that even the economists are having a hard time coming up with a firm number on how much money this will cost the American people.
Team Obama is telling us it is only about $700 billion over 10 years. Economists on both the right and the left are scoffing at that piddly number. I heard one lefty economist put that number at $8 Trillion over 10 years.
Now you may not think it is a big deal, he is only taxing every single business in the US that uses any form of energy, but some of do.
If every single business in the US is affected by this, which it is, then every single person in this country is affected.
This is a big deal!
kcarpenter on March 8, 2009 at 7:13 PM
OK on tea but a far better symbol will be something relevant to today. Tea is a great historical reference but doesn’t spark an emotional response because no one is specifically for or against tea. You need something emotional that gets people at the gut level. As mentioned previously tea worked back in the 1700′s because EVERYONE who bought and sold tea was affected. Everytime you looked at tea back then you were reminded of the government.
OK, but these protests do not channel that. I don’t see it. Plus, most people don’t feel oppressed by the government. If anything right now people are looking TO the government for answers because the PRIVATE sector is failing.
That is an interesting question you bring up. The fact that he doesn’t propose that tax rate kind of undermines a part of your protest. Obama is just proposing a marginal increase on the top tax rate (as mentioned from around 33% to around 40%)
If you really wanted to protest something why not solidify around the cap-and-trade permits which would affect everyone?
THEN you could show people a little easier how it would affect their bottom line clearly.
ckoeber on March 8, 2009 at 7:14 PM
For the first time I’m proud to be a Californian.
BHO Jonestown on March 8, 2009 at 7:19 PM
OK, but these protests do not channel that. I here “tea parties” and people protesting taxes, bailouts, and spending.
No one singular item. Solidify around the cap and trade, have a clear message, and you may have much more support.
Doing so would give people a clear protest and objective (not imposing the cap and trade). From that singular protest you can then add other items later on but you need one item to unify people.
ckoeber on March 8, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Oh, you mean like at liberal protests where there were 50 different factions?
All of the things you mention are one and the same message.
We want liberty! This is a new movement and you have already tried to marginalize it because they are starting small.
Watch, it will grow. Then what will be the reason the MSM ignores it?
Jvette on March 8, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Jvette on March 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Is anybody gonna set up a July 4th tea party in Little Rock, AR? I am in PA but will travel there for a family reunion.
Doubtful, since the Clintonites are very popular; not so much The Huckster (don’t insult me he was governor!!!!!!)
I am gonna check Craigslist see what I find out…
ProudPalinFan on March 8, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Yes, but by far the unifying factor was the Iraq war.
I am not trying to marginalize it – I am merrily reporting on what I see. If you noticed I didn’t mention the current size of the protest.
ckoeber on March 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM
FLASH: Fullerton Leftists retaliate. T & A protest scheduled.
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on March 8, 2009 at 7:28 PM
keep the change on March 8, 2009 at 7:07 PM-
Smiling is good for the heart. Thank you.
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Sorry… wrong radio button… ; )
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 7:36 PM
As unemployment goers up there will be more time to go to these rallies.
We are in the begging of a new revolution, and we won’t get fooled again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM0WIP7eMYs
TheSitRep on March 8, 2009 at 7:43 PM
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And if I had heard of the Trenton, NJ Tea Party last week, I would have been there for all the above. Actually, the movement has stated that it’s intention is to stay decentralized for now… Good strategy. Allow small towns, and big cities to have control over slogans, signs, dates of events, and of the message.
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Please, let’s not hand the message over to some half ass politician who shows up just to gain the “power” that large numbers of gathered/activist tax paying voters represent.
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Power to the People! (love that Laura!)
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM
And your protest is…. where? Have you got 15K people in a crowd stashed somewhere we missed?
The Boston Tea Party, done by the Sons of Liberty, was not ONLY about the Tea Tax…
Not everyone in the South fought the War of Northen Aggresion for the same reason. Some fought for states rights… some for their families… more for liberty… and a few even fought to keep slavery.
But please… if you don’t like how these protests are being run, feel free to jump right in and do one yourself.
Romeo13 on March 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM
For those interested in getting involved, and/or notifications on local tea parties …
Join the Tea Party Movement Planning Wiki
I’m signed up, and keeping an eye on several states for parties to attend.
DannoJyd on March 8, 2009 at 7:50 PM
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Well… the socialist takeover of America seems to be an easy target… “Order lots of those anti-Obama/anti-Socialist signs.”
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Obama Flag
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I on the other hand have been here long enough to spot the trolls, imbicles and sock puppets. If you roll your eyes far enough you will be able to see out your own
assholemouth.doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Can the 1 million tea bag march be far off?
moxie_neanderthal on March 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Great flag.
I’d also like to see something similar but with teleprompters on either side with the caption
Reader Of The Free World
moxie_neanderthal on March 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM
I have upgraded Unilever to buy. They own Lipton.
TheSitRep on March 8, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Yes, not a whole lot of folks are going to stay up half the night worrying about those who make more than $250,000 a year being taxed more, they just aren’t. The focus should be on how Obama and the dims in congress are spending the nations future wealth and ability to grow or even maintain the current standard of living, as they are spending gargantuan amounts of money we don’t have, and so much of it in counter-productive ways, and indenturing us and future generations to the Chinese.
MB4 on March 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM
>>I’ll be at the Orlando tea party this month at Lake Eola. My signs are going to be brutal. I mean BRUTAL. I can’t wait
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Hey, I’m gonna be there too! I’ll bolo for your signs!
CinnamongirlUF on March 8, 2009 at 8:13 PM
Sorry but it comes off as a radio station stunt.
KBird on March 8, 2009 at 8:21 PM
I’m curious to find out exactly what percentage of the population of the United States has no idea why we are calling these “Tea Parties”…………
That fact alone should send a very cold shiver up your spine and should paint a very clear picture of what the Liberal Democratic Socialist Bureaucratic take over of our school system has produced.
…………….. just look at who was voted as President.
Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2009 at 8:24 PM
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I’m in… “Taking Back America… The March”
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 8:26 PM
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“Have Teleprompter… Will Travel”
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“American Teleprompter… Never Leave Home Without It”
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Maybe just a teleprompter with a suit on playing “Present… Present… Present…” Over and over.
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RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Perhaps… this once. Keep posted.
RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Perhaps… this once.
Keep postedStay tuned.RalphyBoy on March 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I agree with your overall statement. But Nevada was blue long before 2008. The state voted for Clinton twice.
If anything NV is the ultimate bellwether state. It has voted with the winner since 1980.
angryed on March 8, 2009 at 8:38 PM
We now have one of the first Obamavilles to pop up.
Check out the pics…
voiceofreason on March 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM
The top marginal rates were reduced from 70% to 50%, not 60%, in 1981. They were later reduced to 28 percent in 1986.
That’s still a 20 point tax cut. And the funny thing? It worked…
The economy grew by 3.5% in 1983 and 6.8% in 1984. The later was the highest growth year in 50 years.
doug1981 on March 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Have Teleprompter Will Travel reads the card of an empty suit of a man.
A Knave without a clue in a savage land.
His fast mouth and favors for hire heeds the calling spin.
A thief of your fortune is the man called Barackadin.
Barackadin, Barackadin When will your mouth start to foam?
Barackadin, Barackadin, Far, far from Chicago where You’d be much more at home.
He travels on to ruin everything he feels like he must
A bag of Fools Gold is all he has for his badge of trust
There are campfire legends that the trailmen spin
Of the man with the ah, uum, oh, ah, flapping gums
Of the man called Barackadin
Barackadin, Barackadin When will your mouth start to foam?
Barackadin, Barackadin get your ass Far, far from my home
Far from my home. Far from my home.
MB4 on March 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM
………… didn’t quite see that story on the front cover of the NY-Times, or did I miss it?
Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM
OT: It is now snowing, and sticking, in the moderate climate Portland, Oregon area. This is the latest in the season that I can ever recall getting the White Global Warming here.
MB4 on March 8, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Barackadin
+1
moxie_neanderthal on March 8, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Obama had gov’t agents photographing each face in the crowd for future use and action?
jay12 on March 8, 2009 at 8:54 PM
15,000 people show up to protest and not a single news story…………
………… anyone remember this?
Remember, we are up against the media, too……
Seven Percent Solution on March 8, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Do not be alarmed, we have to know how many more 6×6 cells to build. Just be obedient to the new order and there will not be one for you.
DasObamaReich on March 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM
How do “tea parties” get organized? I would like to become a protester:-)
Are there any scheduled for Pennsylvania in the near future?
Is there a central organization that coordinates these things?
Gotcha on March 8, 2009 at 9:11 PM
There being organized by anyone who wants to do so.
You can check these out:
MM has a new category: Tea Party
http://taxdayteaparty.com/
Click on PA and there’s one in Pittsburg and it looks like they’re trying to do one in Philly. Check out the comments there as well.
INC on March 8, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Hmmm, sounds like something Deathtomediahacks or getalife should be saying.
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Our side needs to take a page out of the Jack Boyd strategy book and engage in a little maneuver warfare. We all agree that Obama’s agenda needs to be derailed but the question is how.
We have the advantage of knowing that the Dems want to cram healthcare and cap and trade down our throats by way of a massive frontal assult and beat us with the votes and sheer momentum. In fact, Peter Orszag has been out front specifically attaching the financial recovery to “healthcare reform” (Obamics translation: control). Fair enough, let’s open up that new debate front.
Clearly they want to use the banking/financial crisis to get these other things done but they don’t have the time, political capital or resources to actively engage these other policy agendas. If they do allow themselves to get bogged down debating these other issues they run the real risk of voter fatigue and voters wondering why the hell these other issues are being tabled when we’re in the throat of a massive financial crisis.
If we think strategically we can get inside their OODA Loop and force them to start debating these other issues before they’re ready and at a time when the American public is not likely to be responsive to these other broad initiatives.
The administration doesn’t have the time or resources to actively debate energy, cap and trade and healthcare, all things he is trying to push through in a very short period of time.
Think Germans pushing across the Soviet Union.
moxie_neanderthal on March 8, 2009 at 9:23 PM
The web site http://taxdayteaparty.com/ isn’t run by MM. I wasn’t clear about that.
Follow links when a tea party is mentioned to see if you can find other info.
Do a search on Pennsylvania tea party. You’ll get some tea room and food kind of things but I found mention of a Harrisburg Tea Party that was yesterday. However, the site lists a facebook RSVP and you might get more info from there about new ones.
INC on March 8, 2009 at 9:24 PM
So you and I should be able to move to any country we want, without becoming citizens or paying taxes. That’s what you believe.
Jim Treacher on March 8, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I’m thrilled to see 15,000 people attending Fullerton Tea Party and hope to see millions and millions more across the country. Just bought some tea from Portsmouth Tea Company in NH. If you like tea, support this tea company.
corvettelady on March 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Was that even directed to you?
Stay classy.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Yes, deathtohisownbraincells believes that the US is an evil empire that should be over run by the desendants of those peoples who Americans displaced and enslaved.
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Well not being a liberal douche bag like you, staying classy is, well, pretty much a given.
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Wow. Just . . . wow.
And I thought I’d seen it all.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 9:39 PM
PS: Refusing to lay California’s tax problems square and completely on the Governator’s door step, no matter what other problems I might have with him, does not make me a “liberal douche bag.” Thank you and good day, sir.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Typical liberal troll, not even particularly innovative in your trolling, in fact rather boring. Oh well, when one sees a wolf stalking the sheep one does not let it go just because it is a particularly stupid wolf.
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Didnt Ron Paul start this tea party thing?
Libertarian Joseph on March 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Yea, right… Statistically speaking 99.99999 percent of all liberal douche bags think they arent liberal douche bags, but they are…
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Ryan:
Oh please, everyone knows the legislature in the state of California has no intention of cutting services or spending. In fact they were proud of themselves for finally getting Arnold to understand that he is not running the show when it comes to money.
Terrye on March 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM
ummmm…T___L!!
jerrytbg on March 8, 2009 at 10:03 PM
What is it about AM radio that whips the ‘conservatives’ into such a frenzy? Imagine how angry and inspired they’ll get in 40 years when they hear about HD Radio!
capitulus on March 8, 2009 at 10:07 PM
In the first of what is likely to be many more salvos, a Chicago-area congressman will be touring the Bay Area this weekend, issuing a faith-focused call to make immigration reform a national priority — even as foreclosures, health care and urgent economic troubles vie for President Barack Obama’s attention.
Rep. Luis Gutierrez, an Illinois Democrat, is scheduled to visit St. Anthony’s Church in San Francisco tonight as part of a 17-city tour of churches throughout the country.
“The purpose of this is really to have a moratorium on ICE raids and deportations and to have a comprehensive immigration reform,” local organizer Lorena Melgarejo, referring to actions by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. “Hopefully, to introduce something before the end of the year.”
Supporters of competing visions of immigration reform have already described the tour as a farcical attempt to halt successful enforcement measures and drum up support for “amnesty” measures that would allow a path to legal residence for the nation’s millions of undocumented immigrants.
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RealDemocrat on March 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM
I never said that . . . do I now need to redirect you to my initial post and make it just a little clearer so you can understand?
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Hiking != cutting
Entelechy was a bit warmer, but unfortunately I wasn’t talking about Maldonado.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 10:12 PM
I’m sure others have thought of it…but I’ll state it…
Let the trolls have the thread and watchem’ thrash about…
jerrytbg on March 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Which is actually what I wanted to get Dorian to understand by telling him this:
Since, y’know, he seems to think Schwarzenegger is the only one at fault.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Heads on a stick?
Heads on a stick?
Reaps on March 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM
They already have that. Its called XM. ;)
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Full of SHIT………..It wasn’t the Democrat controlled State assembly…. It was 100% all of California’s state assemblemen, Republican, Democrate, and Imbecile right up to and especially including the Taxinator…
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 10:22 PM
100% ?!?
Yeah, sure, right, and that’s why there were Republicans fighting the Dems in California when they tried squeezing in more tax increases illegally and by other names.
Sit, count to 10, and take some deep breaths.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Were you born this stupid or did your parents have to deprive you of food and oxygen for it to happen???
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 10:38 PM
It’s the war cry of John and Ken. (The radio talk show hosts that Ed links to above).
INC on March 8, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Why are leftists yankees such as capulus so arrogant? He belittles, rural folks who provide his food and he thinks they are all rubes. He has to be the utmost yankee of all yankeedom and feels so superior. Let all the rural folks and all the illegals move to his city and see how he likes the sudden growth in population. Not all Americans can live in the cities near bays or ports.
garydt on March 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Ah, I see our resident Wesley Mouch has arrived to give the Communist Party of America’s view.
Jenfidel on March 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM
doriangrey on March 8, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Were you born this stupid or did your parents have to deprive you of food and oxygen for it to happen???
That’s it. I don’t have to put up with you. You were apparently born with a severe lack of class, which is nothing to be proud of.
I’m done in this thread.
Ryan Gandy on March 8, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Why are leftists yankees such as capulus so arrogant? He belittles, rural folks who provide his food and he thinks they are all rubes.
Well for one thing he is a leftist yankee, and secondly he really does believe that iced mocha simply appears in the back of the delivery trucks every morning, ready for distribution to various Starbucks.
Bishop on March 8, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Heads on a stick?
Heads on a stick?
Reaps on March 8, 2009 at 10:18 PM
No, they said heads on a stick.
Bishop on March 8, 2009 at 11:05 PM
I still prefer Earl Grey.
Aronne on March 8, 2009 at 11:21 PM
These events are going to be as important as sarah palin rallies and joseph wurzelbacher book signings!
benny shakar on March 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM
If a million man march is ok, well, how about a 100 million don’t use our cars and stay home for a week, shut all our power off and sit. These theives will eat it all just like the original tea party was intended to do.
johnnyU on March 8, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Ditto!! If I had known about it I definitely would have attended as I live about 20 miles away. If there is one to protest what’s going on at the federal level, I’ll definitely be there.
Callie C. on March 8, 2009 at 11:47 PM
These events are going to be as important as sarah palin rallies and joseph wurzelbacher book signings!
benny shakar on March 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM
We could make a compilation DVD of all the tea parties and send it to Gordon Brown as a complement to his other recently acquired DVD’s.
Bishop on March 8, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Benny why would you make statements and expect answers when you yourself don’t respond to basic simple questions. I’ve learned over the hears that leftists do not answer questions and do not respond well to dissent. True liberals even though we may disagree will tolerate all opinions unlike neo marxists, stalinists and others who do not like liberty.
garydt on March 8, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I wonder if Obama could attract a crowd of 100,000 now to talk about that $13 a week temporary “tax cut”…I mean, without free food and drink and an appearance by Bruce Springsteen…
ddrintn on March 8, 2009 at 11:58 PM
~ ~ King George III, December 16, 1773, and
~ ~ benny shakar on March 8, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Entelechy on March 9, 2009 at 12:22 AM
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