Specter to bail on the GOP?

posted at 2:40 pm on March 7, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The Hill indulges in some speculation regarding Arlen Specter’s political future.  With Pat Toomey suddenly looking for a rematch in a Republican primary and the RNC threatening to insert itself into the race, Specter may find the pastures greener on the other side of the partisan fence:

Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) does not have the fall-back option of running as an independent should he lose his 2010 primary election, giving the senior lawmaker strong incentive to abandon his party this year.

Specter faces an extremely difficult primary race against former Rep. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), the conservative firebrand who lost his bid to oust Specter from his seat in the 2004 GOP primary by a mere 17,000 votes (out of more than a million cast).

Pennsylvania political experts say that Specter would likely face a more difficult challenge in 2010 because the Republican primary electorate in Pennsylvania has become more conservative.

Specter can blame Operation Chaos for that development.  In 2008, over 150,000 Pennsylvania Republicans switched to the Democratic primary to vote for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama.  Most of those were centrists and moderates, and most of them haven’t switched back.  If they stay out, they won’t be able to participate in the closed Pennsylvania primaries in 2010.  Specter’s close shave in 2004 would almost certainly transform into a lopsided defeat under those circumstances, especially with his vote on Porkulus.

Would switching parties help him?  Specter barely beat Toomey in 2004 with Bush’s backing, when times were still good, in a Republican primary with the moderates.  As a Democrat, he might command those centrists to his banner, but only if Porkulus shows miraculous signs of working by the spring of 2010.  If not, Toomey and his fiscal conservatism will look much better to working-class Pennsylvanians, who will be in the mood to clean house (and House and Senate).

Switching parties now will almost certainly eliminate any chance of holding a filibuster for Mitch McConnell, but it may be difficult to tell the difference at this point.  Specter’s failure on Porkulus kept the GOP from demanding meaningful input into the stimulus package, a rather significant betrayal.  He’s more than likely to vote for Card Check with his ties to big labor, or at least vote for cloture on the measure to allow it to come to a vote.  He might stand firm against FOCA, but that’s a long shot.  I’m not aware of a single significant part of the Obama agenda on which the Republicans can rely on him to help with a filibuster.

Most Republicans won’t mourn his departure at this point.  Normally I’d argue for the big tent, but Specter doesn’t appear ready to rebut Obama at all on any policy.

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if murtha couldn’t be defeated after all his horrible comments during the ’08 election, then how can any republican win in PA?

kelley in virginia on March 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Specter can use his head to give Barney Frank a colonoscopy. Maybe he’ll find his soul up there.

J.J. Sefton on March 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Specter has a Ph.D in pantywaist from the University of Wuss.

whitetop on March 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM

contrary to the ads running now showing bambi talking about clean coal, his cap and trade policy will kill the coal industry in va., wva. & penn. we all knew this. pennsylvania STILL went for bambi in spite of this.

kelley in virginia on March 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM

You better know what you are wishing for. Penn is not Republican friendly now so Toomey may get his clock cleaned then what.

KBird on March 7, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Goodbye Arlen!

Don’t let the door hit you in your ass on the way out!

Ryan Gandy on March 7, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Good riddance MF’er.

Youngs98 on March 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Good riddance indeed. He has been voting like a lib for a long time so he might as well make it official and give the voters a clear choice.

echosyst on March 7, 2009 at 4:42 PM

All three mavericks should go dem.

Bunning too.

Who wants to cower to a radio entertainer and his dittoheads?

Be mavericky and go for it.

Do it for TO your country.

getalife on March 7, 2009 at 4:20 PM

how’s your 401k there since your savior took over??? when are you gonna getaclue??

right4life on March 7, 2009 at 4:45 PM

And Bush stook up for this Rino.

Rick007 on March 7, 2009 at 4:50 PM

As an active PA Republican, I get Specter’s marketing emails. On the one explaining his vote for Hogzilla (aka Porkulus), I sent him a one word reply – “asshole“.
 

National Review deserves a pat on the back. In a Sept. 2003 edition the cover showed a picture of Arlen Specter with the headline “The Worst Republican Senator“. Here is a link to that article.

gash on March 7, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I am all for a big tent, put the price of admission is having limited federal government principles.

WashJeff on March 7, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Specter is a waste of good air…he should be quietly pt to pasture where he can bother folk that like him.

JIMV on March 7, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Why he ever called himself a Republican in the first place is beyond me. It kills me that we haven’t kicked him out and he would get to do the leaving. There’s still time. Boot his arse.

pugwriter on March 7, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Making it official is just a formality at this point…

pontiacdoug on March 7, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Buh-bye Senator. You always reminded me of Captain Bennington anyway.

Limerick on March 7, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Time’s up gramps. RETIRE.

marklmail on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Easy thread to dump on Specter, but veering off topic while keeping Specter, PA, other rustbelt states, and union employees in mind, I’m curious whether anyone has any ideas regarding undermining unions.

I think unions are killing states such as PA, Michigan, Ohio, and the like. What can the GOP (or maybe better put, conservatives) do to show union members a better way?

Sure, many of these workers line up with the GOP socially, but the GOP needs to come up with some economic ideas aside from simply throwing a bunch of nanny-state proposals at them as the Dems do.

I had an idea for a proposal in corporate governance to require that half of public-company boards consist of non-executive employees. The idea would be to give reps of the employees a stake in (and responsibility for) management of the company. The non-executive employees would have to terminate their union affiliations. The idea would be to get some employee-directors working together with the rest of the board rather than perpetuating the the antagonism and distrust that currently exists between labor and management. The ability to deadlock might create an interesting dynamic in corporate goverance.

I’m merely spitballing. Anyone got a suggestion?

BuckeyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Oh, please, please, pretty please. Take the Maine trash with him and McCain.
It’s clobberin time.

2Tru2Tru on March 7, 2009 at 5:06 PM

if murtha couldn’t be defeated after all his horrible comments during the ‘08 election, then how can any republican win in PA?
kelley in virginia on March 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Have a fiscally conservative / socially moderate candidate that has a magic wand to bring jobs to central PA.

disillusioned on March 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The problem with PA is the some one that exists with NY. There are large geographic areas of the state that are conservative (Red neck according to Murtha himself), but they are shouted down by the metro areas.

pgrossjr on March 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM

BuckeyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I mentioned this on another thread somewhere, but I’m in a city council race and will soon be participating in a Townhall debate attended by union reps and some rank and file members.

I’m just going to give them the skinny on how a free market economy works and why artificial price floors drive up unemployment.

Teaching real economics is the way out of this, for the long term, I think. Most people, most politicians, are clueless on economic matters.

pugwriter on March 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Specter switching parties is like watching Charles Manson and Osama bin Laden die of old age. There is no justice, but it still feels good.

Valiant on March 7, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

What can the GOP (or maybe better put, conservatives) do to show union members a better way?

Sure, many of these workers line up with the GOP socially, but the GOP needs to come up with some economic ideas aside from simply throwing a bunch of nanny-state proposals at them as the Dems do.

let them fail utterly and go out of business. the big problem is the government unions..they should outlaw unions for government workers that would end unions in this country..and good riddance to those corrupt mobsters..

right4life on March 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

yeah that worked real with with mccain didn’t it moron? duhhhhhh

right4life on March 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I believe for the most part, the majority of Americans pay little or no attention to who runs for house or senate. I believe they’re too lazy to care or so uninformed, they don’t realize the importance.

Whether there’s a viable alternative or not in PA, I say Specter needs voted out. He doesn’t deserve the (R) next to his name.

Oink on March 7, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Don’t count on it. By 2010, the moderates and centrists are going to be so sick of the effects of Obama & Co.’s incompetence and socialist idiocy that they’ll be more than happy to vote for anybody who’s not a Democrat.

AZCoyote on March 7, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I don’t want Specter to leave the party–I want him thrown out along with Collins and Snowe. There has to be a severe penalty for undermining the ENTIRE party and 49% of the electorate on bills as important as the Stimulus.

patrick neid on March 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I had an idea for a proposal in corporate governance to require that half of public-company boards consist of non-executive employees. The idea would be to give reps of the employees a stake in (and responsibility for) management of the company. The non-executive employees would have to terminate their union affiliations. The idea would be to get some employee-directors working together with the rest of the board rather than perpetuating the the antagonism and distrust that currently exists between labor and management. The ability to deadlock might create an interesting dynamic in corporate goverance.

I’m merely spitballing. Anyone got a suggestion?

BuckeyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I think that’s a great idea to be honest. My suggestion would be this: When constructing the board of engineers each board member should have a job, and who would take that place would depend on the job being done. One board member in charge of finance should come from head of accounting. One board member in charge of Marketing would come from the head of marketing. One board member in charge of research would be the head of research. Etc and so forth. There could be one ‘pure’ executive: the CEO (and chairman of the board). I would also insist that all Voting stock be held by the employees.

But that makes too much sense for a lot of people.

Chaz706 on March 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Go back to HuffPo – Tinian. You haven’t a clue how elections are won. You and your ilk keep spouting this drivel about the ‘appealing to the moderates and the centrists’. There is NO SUCH THING. The moderates and the centrists are just too cowardly to say they are LIBERALS.

Sporty1946 on March 7, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Go back to HuffPo – Tinian. You haven’t a clue how elections are won. You and your ilk keep spouting this drivel about the ‘appealing to the moderates and the centrists’. There is NO SUCH THING. The moderates and the centrists are just too cowardly to say they are LIBERALS.

Sporty1946 on March 7, 2009 at 5:35 PM

+1

pugwriter on March 7, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Here is a list of targets to be booted in the Senate in 2010:

AR Blanche Lincoln Democratic
CA Barbara Boxer Democratic
CO Michael Bennet Democratic
CT Chris Dodd Democratic
DE1 Ted Kaufman Democratic
HI Daniel Inouye Democratic
IL Roland Burris Democratic
IN Evan Bayh Democratic
MD Barbara Mikulski Democratic
NV Harry Reid Democratic
NY Chuck Schumer Democratic
NY2 Kirsten Gillibrand Democratic
ND Byron Dorgan Democratic
OR Ron Wyden Democratic
VT Patrick Leahy Democratic
WA Patty Murray Democratic
WI Russ Feingold Democratic

IA Chuck Grassley Republican
PA Arlen Specter Republican

Feel free to add to the list – its time to take back the party of Lincoln & Reagan and show the spineless Country Club RINO Republicans the retirement home. They are just as guilty in trying to destroy the country as all the Dems listed are.

Sporty1946 on March 7, 2009 at 5:46 PM

This assumes the Democrats in Pennsylvania want Specter.
rockmom on March 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Good point. They’d be better of getting someone younger anyway. I wish Specter would just retire with dignity.

Buy Danish on March 7, 2009 at 5:53 PM

This is a fun parlor game for you all, but if Arlen Specter does not run as a Republican and win the primary, this seat will belong to the Democrats in 2011.

rockmom on March 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Hate to break it to you, but it’s been a Dem seat since Specter won it.

SuperCool on March 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Why doesn’t this a$$ sit out on the lawn and watch the grass grow and the cars rust?

larvcom on March 7, 2009 at 5:59 PM

let them fail utterly and go out of business. the big problem is the government unions..they should outlaw unions for government workers that would end unions in this country..and good riddance to those corrupt mobsters..

right4life on March 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I thought about mentioning government unions, but I decided not to do so. But you’re absolutely correct. Think about the concept of government employees needing unions…to protect them from the government. Say what? If we can’t trust the government in employee relations, why are we entrusting anything to the government?

Can anyone explain that? I seriously doubt it.

BuckeyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Cheers, jeers, or both?

What about extended middle fingers?

Mike Honcho on March 7, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Uhh….

McCain lost. Dole lost.

Reagan ran as an unapologetic right-winger and won big both times. In fact, in 1984, Reagan only lost D.C. and Mondale’s home state of Minnesota.

eaglescout1998 on March 7, 2009 at 6:14 PM

If true, this is on every teenager’s wish list: the trash is taking itself out.

Increasing the IQ of both parties is a bonus.

Feedie on March 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM

May both Ted Kennedy and Arlen Specter go to greener pastures and away from this country’s future. Both of them suffer and it will be God’s will what happens. There, how’s that for bi-partisan? No, I’m not ashamed of what I said… tough nougies, sensitive ones.

MNDavenotPC on March 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM

When Obambi slandered Pennsylvanians with his innuendo on
their level of intelligence by “clinging to their guns and religion,” they promptly went out and proved he was right. If they can elect scum like Murtha after his life of garbage, then the mentality of Pennsylvanians has to be questioned in regards to any serious problem facing our country. Pennsylvanians prove that the dims own the unions and the minorities and they respond like brainwashed lemmings when directed to do so.

volsense on March 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM

Sent him this thread and told him there is no room for mavericks in the gop.

getalife on March 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Get this moron out of here.

WisCon on March 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Best thing Specter can do IS LEAVE!

GarandFan on March 7, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Specter needs to go. This is an existential question for the GOP. The party will never regain its identity or its purpose until it decides what it is. Is it the party of limited government, strong national defense, low taxes and the free market? Or is it a party of which Arlen Specter feels comfortable being a member? It can’t be both, and the sooner it decides what it is, the sooner it can get about the business of kicking liberals’ asses and restoring this country to what it was meant to be.

greggriffith on March 7, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Specter just needs to go away. But until he does, he needs to make a formal statement naming himself as a Dem. Most of us think that’s what he strives to be anyway, and let’s face it, he’s done a good job of letting that be known. He’s a back stabber.

Go away Arlen. Just go away…

roopster217 on March 7, 2009 at 6:53 PM

volsense on March 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM

on their level of intelligence

I’m not sure where your headed with this one. Must be my PA intellect lacking some mental elbow grease.

the mentality of Pennsylvanians has to be questioned in regards to any serious problem facing our country.

I’m sure the proud serving members of the armed forces from PA would tend to disagree on this one.

Pennsylvanians prove that the dims own the unions and the minorities and they respond like brainwashed lemmings when directed to do so.

pgossjr made a good point earlier on this comment that I’ll refer to.

The problem with PA is the some one that exists with NY. There are large geographic areas of the state that are conservative (Red neck according to Murtha himself), but they are shouted down by the metro areas.

pgrossjr on March 7, 2009 at 5:16 PM

My point is to not cast all of PA as liberal dimwitted lemmings.

disillusioned on March 7, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Wait until Specter gives Oslime-a’s super-liberal Supreme Court nominees a green light. His journey to the dark side will be complete.

F**KING MORON.

csdeven on March 7, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Get this moron out of here.

WisCon on March 7, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Which moron: ‘getalife’ ( who oughta get a life ) or Arlen?

Janos Hunyadi on March 7, 2009 at 6:59 PM

didn’t he already do this,if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a lib.p.s. good riddance!

wade underhile on March 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Specter bailed on the GOP a long, long time ago.

LASue on March 7, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Good riddance you bastard. Do it before the primaries to give Toomey a fighting chance.

I want my campaign donations back.

hawkdriver on March 7, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Sent him this thread and told him there is no room for mavericks in the gop.

getalife on March 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Hey dude, It’s my turn to ask again. Did you eat and bathe today yet? If not, go ahead and you can come back and troll just as soon as you’re done. Um-K?

hawkdriver on March 7, 2009 at 7:13 PM

If Arlen doesn’t switch parties, he will get crushed in the primary. Toomey wins whether Arlen stays or switches.

if murtha couldn’t be defeated after all his horrible comments during the ‘08 election, then how can any republican win in PA?

kelley in virginia on March 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Murtha is a Congressman, meaning the whole state does not vote on him, right? He represents a small part of western PA. Boss HOg Murtha could never win statewide. Plenty of good Republicans have won in PA. Ask Santorum. My Congressman, Joe Pitts, is excellent.

I’d laugh my butt off if Arlen switches to the Dems. It won’t matter one wit to the voting in the Senate, and then the Dems will have carry his sorry carcas across the finish line in ’10. They don’t want that, believe me. They’ve had such a great gig with Specter. They want the GOP to nominate him again, then they will nominate someone they like even better on their side. Called win/win. One of my long list of gripes with Bush and Rove is that they saddled us with this sorry loser. Blame them for Benedict Arlen’s vote for the porkulus.

james23 on March 7, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

No, I beg to differ. We keep losing elections because we think we have to pander to people who don’t have firm convictions on a d*mn thing!

libertylady on March 7, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Specter is the guy who wants us to believe that one bullet killed JFK and Connelly that day in Texas?

RealDemocrat on March 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Hey nitwit, maybe you haven’t noticed, but Arlen Specter rode to power on Ronald Reagan’s coattails, not vice versa. And electing Specter repeatedly, and many other RINO trash, hasn’t kept the GOP in the majority that Reagan delivered to them. Electing conservatives wins, nominating moderates loses. dope

james23 on March 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Specter can use his head to give Barney Frank a colonoscopy. Maybe he’ll find his soul up there.

J.J. Sefton on March 7, 2009 at 4:26 PM

If up to you to rearrange the words into the proper order. Hint, he’s been doing it for Dems for a long time.

hawkdriver on March 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM

Spector has already bailed on the GOP.

All that is mleft is some paperwork.

lsheldon on March 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM

goodbye, Judas, *sswipe.

la.rt.wngr on March 7, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Valiant on March 7, 2009 at 5:22 PM

I wish our Senate was more like Taiwan’s parliment; it would do my heart good knowing that Senators and House Reps were getting in fistfights and getting beaten up during contentious debates. Think of the youtube potential. Specter announces he’s leaving the GOP; two other Senators pick him up and throw him across the aisle. Of course, given that our Senate is a wretched hive of scum and villainy, the level of violence would probably escalate too quickly to be enjoyed. Imagine Robert Byrd and one of his incoherent stemwinders..could someone resist the urge to bop him with the microphone? Just think of the things that could have been done to Harry Reid with his gavel after he said the war was lost. Ah, civilization is so overrated.

austinnelly on March 7, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Go or stay what differnce does it make.He,s a big time Lib..I say go and the sooner the better.P.S. Sentor Specter take Sen Snowe & Sen. Collins with you. (Na Na Na Hey Hey Hey Good By)

thmcbb on March 7, 2009 at 8:09 PM

This guy is just a pure, useless, politician. What a POS.

worlok on March 7, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

You’ve been pawned

Cannot say much more. The Men and Women at this great site have blown a hole in your arse.

Jamson64 on March 7, 2009 at 8:30 PM

btw… good riddance arlen…hope you leave.

Jamson64 on March 7, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Specter is garbage and has been for a long time. Get him out of the party please.

HondaV65 on March 7, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Oh yeah – the McCain campaign went smashing didn’t it! I really, really loved McCain whipping the Socialist Obama in a landslide. And man – what an awesome inaugural McCain had and just look how great the economy is doing!

Oh wait …

HondaV65 on March 7, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Specter has always been a bad joke in polictics!

beachkatie on March 7, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Left-center republicans who are ashamed of their party dilutes the GOP brand and message… Be gone… Be gone I said…

phreshone on March 7, 2009 at 9:14 PM

In 2008, over 150,000 Pennsylvania Republicans switched to the Democratic primary to vote for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama, and most of them haven’t switched back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Remind me again, who was the fat drugged idiot who came up with this brilliant idea? I say, make him the leader of the party.

radiofreevillage on March 7, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Leaders with sound, unshakable values, solid economic and social positions and the ability to convince the voters to support and elect him/her win elections. Moderates and centrists are more appropriately called compromisers and are already in the wilderness.

rplat on March 7, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Sent him this thread and told him there is no room for mavericks in the gop.

getalife on March 7, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Hey dude, It’s my turn to ask again. Did you eat and bathe today yet? If not, go ahead and you can come back and troll just as soon as you’re done. Um-K?

hawkdriver on March 7, 2009 at 7:13 PM

That may be asking for too much. Forum poster getalife is probably off thinking of more smarmy lib comments such as:

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is neither Common or Wealthy. Discuss.

disillusioned on March 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Specter is old and weak and needs to go. Adios!

apco on March 7, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Knock off the Pennsylvania bashing… I live in Mn and know that, of course, a majority of people voted for liberal nitwits… their crosses to bear…. but in Pennsylvania, as in MN, there are many that will continue to fight the good fight. Of course, you who have single cell brains and love to attack states …. I was raised in Pennsylvania… rail at me but lay off the states.

MNDavenotPC on March 7, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Better to be shot in the face than stabbed in the back.

Good Riddance.

roscopico on March 7, 2009 at 10:41 PM

In NY the only real GOP hope of getting Hillary’s seat is with Rudy, a guy who has embraced some liberal views.

dedalus on March 7, 2009 at 3:20 PM

Rudy should run for governor, not Senator. He is more of an executive type than a legislative type. Besides, Gov. Paterson is declining in popularity and the likely Democratic Nominee Andrew Cuomo is on film supporting the very policies that destroyed the Wall Street Banks that were financing NY’s tax base. The commercials with that tape should collapse.

Besides as NY Governor, you can make a difference. In Washington the Republican caucus in the Senate is pretty powerless as we have seen. The 2010 elections will be too late; once Obama has passed his agenda, he will not need to break filibusters, he will just need to veto any changes to what he has already passed.

KW64 on March 7, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Good riddens!

seanrobins on March 7, 2009 at 10:59 PM

Unlike Lim-blowhard, Specter knows where elections are won:

In the middle.

Until the GOP recognizes that elections are won by appealing to moderates and centrists, their party will perpetually wander in the wilderness of the minority.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

If what you say is the case, then how do you explain the election of someone like Obama? He’s hardly what anyone could conceivably call a “centerist” or “middle (of the road)” politician. The same could be said for at least 80% of the Dems in Congress.

“In the middle” presumably swings both ways. While I do not necessarily disagree with you that “…elections are won in the middle”, this does not mean that Republicans have to abandon conservative principles to appeal to said “middle”. Reagan demonstrated this quite effectively.

While I would much rather vote for a true conservative (or small-l libertarian) candidate, I could get behind supporting a “center-right” candidate – but only if (s)he is center-right. I see no point in supporting anyone who wants a (R) next to their name if they are not at least somewhat committed to Republican principles.

As a somewhat OT aside (but nonetheless relevant to the point I’m trying to make), the word/name “Republican” is not just a random concatenation of letters with no meaning. The key root word in “Republican” is Republic, as in Republican form of government – a system of government that enshrines the rule of law, and limited but effective government with checks and balances on political power. Conservatives are Republicans because they believe in small-r republican ideals. When a Republican does not support republican ideals, they have no business calling themselves Republican.

The “Lim-blowhard” you revile would have made the point much more simply: Words Mean Things.

SgtSchultz on March 7, 2009 at 11:07 PM

In the middle.

Tinian on March 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM

yeah that worked real with with mccain didn’t it moron? duhhhhhh

right4life on March 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Good point.

While Reagan proved that one could appeal to the middle by being a conservative, McCain demonstrates how one can loose the middle by not being a conservative.

Elections are supposed to be about choices. If you are offered with candidates that sound nearly the same on policy, the choice devolves into a personality contest. It is no mystery that McCain lost – he could not compete on charisma, and offered no clear alternative on policy.

SgtSchultz on March 7, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Wait until Specter gives Oslime-a’s super-liberal Supreme Court nominees a green light. His journey to the dark side will be complete.

csdeven on March 7, 2009 at 6:55 PM

LOL. I always get a kick out of Star Wars references.

Specter: “You are part of the Democratic alliance and a traitor. Take him away!”

SgtSchultz on March 7, 2009 at 11:28 PM

Benedict Arlen,
Make like a hockey stick and get the puck out.

TN Mom on March 8, 2009 at 1:11 AM

keyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Actually, I think it would be easiest for Red States to secede. Now is the time to do it while the military is tangled up overseas, and we still have our 2nd Amendment rights. Hopefully, it would be peaceful and along Red/Blue state lines due to the tremendous cultural gap.

Sapwolf on March 8, 2009 at 1:26 AM

Specter can blame Operation Chaos for that development. In 2008, over 150,000 Pennsylvania Republicans switched to the Democratic primary to vote for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. Most of those were centrists and moderates, and most of them haven’t switched back.

Wait, what? ‘Centrists and moderates’ listen to Rush and follow his guidance? Sorry, Ed, I’m not buying this, unless you have some sort of solid evidence.

Bartrams Garden on March 8, 2009 at 2:52 AM

Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as I’m concerned. The last thing we need is to be dragged to the left. Although we should recognize that a moderate Republican is better than a conservative Democrat, when that Republican is really just a conservative Democrat who’s using the party monicker to grant the image of bipartisanship to Democrat bills. This is coming from a guy who supported McCain throughout the primaries, I like bipartisanship, I like pragmatism, but we’re talking about the opposite of what McCain did. McCain demonstrates courage on the principles he supports, like them or not, Specter is demonstrating cowardice and indifference to principle because he’s afraid of the exit polling data from Pennsylvania in 2008. We can afford to let him lend our name to the garbage he’s willing to sell us out on.

galenrox on March 8, 2009 at 3:09 AM

*can’t

galenrox on March 8, 2009 at 3:10 AM

Actually maybe I should’ve previewed that post before I sent it out, yikes!

galenrox on March 8, 2009 at 3:12 AM

Wait, what? ‘Centrists and moderates’ listen to Rush and follow his guidance? Sorry, Ed, I’m not buying this, unless you have some sort of solid evidence.

Bartrams Garden on March 8, 2009 at 3:52 AM

Good Call BG. I’m not buying this either beyond the statement that many of them haven’t switched back.

disillusioned on March 8, 2009 at 3:22 AM

No, the RNC should quickly dispatch Michael Steele to give Spectre much love and many Monica’s to see if he can be retained! How can the RNC be expected to operate without one of their leading proponent RINO’s! Time to get on your knees, Mr. Steele and show us what a man of “action” you are!

sabbott on March 8, 2009 at 3:54 AM

I had an idea for a proposal in corporate governance to require that half of public-company boards consist of non-executive employees. The idea would be to give reps of the employees a stake in (and responsibility for) management of the company. The non-executive employees would have to terminate their union affiliations. The idea would be to get some employee-directors working together with the rest of the board rather than perpetuating the the antagonism and distrust that currently exists between labor and management. The ability to deadlock might create an interesting dynamic in corporate goverance.

I’m merely spitballing. Anyone got a suggestion?
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BuckeyeSam on March 7, 2009 at 5:05 PM

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I think that’s a great idea to be honest. My suggestion would be this: When constructing the board of engineers each board member should have a job, and who would take that place would depend on the job being done. One board member in charge of finance should come from head of accounting. One board member in charge of Marketing would come from the head of marketing. One board member in charge of research would be the head of research. Etc and so forth. There could be one ‘pure’ executive: the CEO (and chairman of the board). I would also insist that all Voting stock be held by the employees.
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But that makes too much sense for a lot of people.
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Chaz706 on March 7, 2009 at 5:34 PM

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Say, here’s a thought: use your voting shares to support such plans in the companies in which you own stock. Try and convince other shareholders that your approach is better than simply finding the best available directors. If you can manage that, your idea will be tried. If you lose, well, democracy is a bitch, ain’t it?
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Concerning those companies in which you own NO stock: why don’t you mind your own damn business?
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Adjoran on March 8, 2009 at 5:25 AM

“if murtha couldn’t be defeated after all his horrible comments during the ‘08 election, then how can any republican win in PA?”

I live in the next district over. The Republican won quite handily here. Having said that, I doubt that Snarlin Arlen will switch. He’s far too embedded in the state party machine.

rightwingprof on March 8, 2009 at 6:24 AM

Don’t let the door hit you in your arse on the way out, Patriot……………You’re a disgrace Arlen. How do you sleep?………

adamsmith on March 8, 2009 at 7:09 AM

kelley in virginia on March 7, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Murtha could only be voted on by the people who live in his district. Spector can be voted for by the whole population of Pa. My district is largely Republican also.

Since Pennsylvanians are pissed off, they will vote Spector out. We voted out a long term St. Rep., Bob Jubelier, after the pay raise debacle of 2006.

becki51758 on March 8, 2009 at 7:44 AM

He’s been a democrat for years.

afotia on March 8, 2009 at 8:13 AM

Good riddance! Oh and Ed, about this statement about those who switched over during operation Chaos,

Most of those were centrists and moderates

Wrong! Those were stanch conservatives.

conservnut on March 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Benedict Arlen, Susan Collins, and Snowe-job … all, dead to me.

Don’t forget to BOYCOTT MAINE.

I wrote LL Bean and told ‘em no more catalog sales and no more visits to their store at the local mall.

Scr*w Maine….socialist sellouts.

Let’s roll America…right over these socialist freaks.

I want my liberty back. Take your Gore-bull warming and shove it up your arse.

ex-Democrat on March 8, 2009 at 9:02 AM

If we don’t feed the troll it will go away. It’s not even a very good troll.

ex-Democrat on March 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM

See ya later Mr. Spectator, now you can mess up the Demoncrates.

MSGTAS on March 8, 2009 at 9:14 AM

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