RNC meltdown continues: on-line director quits

posted at 11:03 am on March 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The bleeding continues at the RNC.  After new chair Michael Steele fired most of the staff, other key contributors have begun leaving on their own.  Last week it was finance chair Tim Chapman, and now the man in charge of all on-line operations has left — without any immediate prospects:

Arguably the most respected technocrat in the Republican Party, Cyrus Krohn is just the latest in a string of officials to resign from the RNC; last week, the RNC’s finance director quit. But because GOP Chairman Michael Steele made leveraging the Internet to attract voters to the Republican Party a top priority ina tech summit two weeks ago, Krohn’s departure comes as an especially heavy blow — not just to the RNC, but to the conservative blogosphere.

As Matt Lewis notes, though, this is really the most disturbing part of the story:

In an interview, Krohn said he’s moving back to Seattle with his family. He has no job lined up at the moment, he told The Post, but he’s thinking of running for office.

So he quit without having another job lined up?  In this economy?  Krohn had to be pretty desperate to leave, and Republicans have to ask themselves why.

In just four weeks, the RNC has shed almost all of its staff, and now suddenly finds itself without leadership on fundraising and on-line operations, two of the most critical efforts for the party in the next two years. It will take weeks, if not months, to find suitable replacements for the two and get them up to speed.  The GOP has lost continuity on two major fronts and now must rebuild from scratch on both.

These aren’t road bumps; they’re collapsed bridges to victory.

One source close to the situation acknowledges that the RNC needed to trim its staff, as it had been increased for the Coleman/Franken recount and the Chambliss run-off in Georgia, but that the terminations in February cut out the meat as well as the fat.  It takes a lot of people to handle all of the connections to state organizations, volunteer groups, and vendors, and it’s simply not getting done now.  What’s worse is that now we’ve lost the people who would hire the staff necessary for meeting those obligations, which means it will take a lot longer to recover.  How much time does the RNC have, anyway, before they fall hopelessly behind?


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To Rahm Emanuel: “You are a magnificent bastard (ballerina)”

Thank you for doubling my audience.

Love, Rush Limbaugh, talent on loan from God

NB:getalife also says Hi!

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Why is it so hard for Conservatives and Republicans to understand that our policies and core values ARE the solution to The Messiah and then articulate them…

Compare and Contrast…

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Steele be da man.

He is a keeper.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Bingo. There are many people — I’m one — who resent not only Osama Obama’s increasing interference in our lives with nanny-state policies, but also do not want the opposite, which is “conservatives” pushing policies that are 180 degrees from the child-president’s, but depend on the same government control over our lives.

Fiscal policies, defense, building of interstate highways and — maybe — a few other functions are the federal government’s province. Morality is not.

Exactly. Why are personal issues of how someone wants to live, the business of the Republican Party? And no, Reagan did not run on social issues. He ran on 3 major points – Lowering taxes, Strong Defense, and aggressive foreign policy against USSR (rollback, not just the old containment).

But if I was to say those major points and talk about getting goverment out of our lives on a moral and social basis, people here have called me “Democrat-lite”.

Its you who are fine with more government in our live as long as it fits your social ideals, that are more like the Dems who also want more government in our lives when it fits their ideals.

Lets get the GOP back to Economic AND Individual liberty. People do not want a nanny state of the right either, and that why the Intermountain West is trending Democratic instead of being a GOP stronghold. People fear social conservatives trying to make laws based on morality and religious beliefs.

firepilot on March 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Why is it so hard for Conservatives and Republicans to understand that our policies and core values ARE the solution to The Messiah and then articulate them…

Compare and Contrast…

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Easy. Because the head of the RNC last weekend agreed that the CPAC gathering was like a gathering in Nazi Germany. Steele still hasn’t addressed this. I don’t give a damn whether he gets along with Rush or not; Steele’s allowed this turd of an appearance on CNN to float in the public for over a week.

We now need Bill Murray to get in the HAZ-MAT suit and remove the turd that is Steele from the GOP pool. And I’m certain that Murray won’t find that Steele, in truth, is a Baby Ruth.

BuckeyeSam on March 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM

The heck with Fred Thompson as a replacement for Steele. How about his wife?

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/03/06/jeri-thompson-roasts-the-rush-deranged/

BuckeyeSam on March 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM

GOP has no clue what the problem is. Hint: moderate on fiscal, conservative on social is the wrong way. Reverse it, and you have a party again. Idiots.

Teh wins.

radiofreevillage on March 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM

If you think the 2:1 advantage that Obama took from the 18-29 crowd will reverse by the Republicans becoming MORE socially conservative, then you are a fool.

neuquenguy on March 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Typical of most social cons on here, you take it to the absurd extreme.

WisCon on March 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

I just recieved this in my email… I thought it was interesting.

For all the trouble we a having now. If this guy is right the Democrats could be much worse off than we are. I think we just need to focus on honesty and integrity in our party I think charisma is going to be out of style quickly.

I thought this was interesting. It was a comment left on an article about the white house attacking Rush Limbaugh so… “Dr. Sam Vaknin is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting
view on our new president.

Dr.. Vaknin has written extensively about narcissism.

Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by

Sen.Barack Obama from the first
time I saw him. At first I
was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful,
spoke well, appeared to be confident – a wholesome
presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because
of his shallowness but also because there was an air of

haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His
posture and his body language were louder than his empty
words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech
we have heard in American history. Never a politician in

this land had such quasi “religious” impact on so
many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with
zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation
alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a

genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important
subjects .”

Barack Obama is a narcissist.

Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love
believes “Barack Obama appears to be a

narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on
narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the
inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he
talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that

Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the
testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that
the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have
narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Narcissists

project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim
Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the
man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit
mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a

narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni,
Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and
Adolph
Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All
these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers.
They created a personality cult around themselves and with
their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their

hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new
zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them
the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their
doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you

don’t know it until it is too late. One determining
factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.

“Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and
replete with traumatic and mentally bruising

dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race
marriages were even less common then. His parents went
through a divorce when he was an infant (two years
old).
Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a
car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had
to relocate to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically
foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age

of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal
(white)grandparents. He saw his mother only
intermittently in the following few years and then she
vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in

1995″.

One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of
pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing
personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed
by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay

in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight
to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the
world
around himself and reduces others in his own inverted
image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers
become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in
things that do not help them to reach their personal

objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that
is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and
they do not want to waste their precious time on
trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath

them and do not deserve their attention.

If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one
way or another, he has no interest in it. The
“present” vote is a safe vote. No one can
criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are

unworthy by their very nature because they are not about
him. Obama’s election as the first black president of
the
Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to
write a book about race relations.

The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot
longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess

what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a
scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had
been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most
sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My

Father.

Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own
autobiography when he was still nobody.. So did
Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as
his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and

genius writing about insignificant things when he can write
about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are
often
callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack
conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of
interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per
month.

A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to

vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly half a billion
dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in
history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother.
Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to

power.

A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election
is like no other in the history of America. The issues are
insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be
more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a

serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies
from reality as the leader of the free
world? I hate to
sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed.
Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to
others….They are simply self serving and selfish.

Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which

is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a
Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him
reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental
health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological

narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even
intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them
treacherous.

Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in
Obama. But this man could put an end to their party.

The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for
Obama. Only a fool does
not know that their support for
him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and
simple. The downside of this is that if Obama turns out
to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread
resentment among the whites.

The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of
their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and
unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand
and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause

a backlash among the whites.

The white supremacists will take advantage of the
discontent and they will receive widespread support. I
predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will
increase to levels never seen since the turbulent

1960′s.

Obama will set the clock back decades…
America is the
bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the
strength of America, and its weakness translates into the
triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.

It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the

Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the
Guantanamo terrorists and virtually all sworn enemies of
America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the
White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There

is no insanity greater than electing a pathological
narcissist as president. ”

petunia on March 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

We should all be upset because this man left.

He has been doing such a great job. /s

Not

I suspect that he was asked to leave and given the option of resigning.

HonestConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Oh dear, someone mentioned Fred Thompson, queue AP and snarky commentary about mindless Fredheads! and cowboy hats (which are quite common south of the Mason-Dixon and west of the Mississippi but not in New York City).

Go figure, Simon and Garfunkel!

Montana on March 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

We now need Bill Murray to get in the HAZ-MAT suit and remove the turd that is Steele from the GOP pool. And I’m certain that Murray won’t find that Steele, in truth, is a Baby Ruth.

BuckeyeSam on March 6, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Oh man this is quite a mental image. I feel as though Obama is creating the momentum to galvanize the party. Either Steele finds a way to tap that or he is going to have to be replaced by Bill Murray or some other force. I think we give him a bit more time first though. I think he needs to get Newt or someone like him to create a plan.

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Forget the RNC. Let’s start a new conservative party. Worked pretty well for Canada.

neuquenguy on March 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Yes, but what you have to keep in mind, is that while the Conservative Party was busy building itself up, we Canadians had to put up with 13 years of Fiberal Rule. And as of now, we STILL only have a Minority Gov. So unless you are willing for the Dems to rule for many years, be careful what you wish for. After more than 15 years, we Canadian Cons are still not where we want to be…

pcbedamned on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 12:46 PM
If you think the 2:1 advantage that Obama took from the 18-29 crowd will reverse by the Republicans becoming MORE socially conservative, then you are a fool.

neuquenguy on March 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Typical of most social cons on here, you take it to the absurd extreme.

WisCon on March 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

I still wonder why you will not address the ABSOLUTE fact that Obama will have destroyed America, as the Founders intended, by 2010… Young people are not ALL stupid, they will see that his cult following and Americaa-Idol Administration is a huge failure… They will have no other options, they will need jobs, food… They will look for answers, the social aspects will NOT be what elects the next CIC, it will be overlooked… Jobs, jobs, jobs, the economy will trump, and we are there… Ready to lead.

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

The gop hitting rock bottom is great news for our country.

It will be a long time before they are elected power and that is great for our economy.

Who wants another depression?

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Who wants another depression?
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Judging from every thing he’s done and is doing since he took office, Barack Hussein Obama, so he can remake America into a Socialist County.

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I probably don’t agree with you either. I am on board with all of our secular conservatives except those who have in any way embraced any policy of our new president.

Cindy Munford on March 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I still wonder why you will not address the ABSOLUTE fact that Obama will have destroyed America, as the Founders intended, by 2010…

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

I still wonder why you give this witless nincompoop in the Oval Office that much credit. Sir, you overestimate his potential, by a huge margin.

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Good thing you are not a judge.

He is trying to clean up the mess.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

He is trying to clean up the mess.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Stock market down from 13,000 to 6,500 since the Democrats took Congress. It’s down 25 % from Inauguration day. There is a difference between cleaning up and wiping out.

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:28 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

The gop hitting rock bottom is great news for our country.

It will be a long time before they are elected power and that is great for our economy.

Who wants another depression?

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Please stop saying these things, the GOP is not over, please.

I am just sickened by all of it, the Democrat Party- bugged eyed Pelosi and The One, the idiots fueling the Rush thing. I am getting scared for The Party.

GOP has no clue what the problem is. Hint: moderate on fiscal, conservative on social is the wrong way. Reverse it, and you have a party again. Idiots.

I agree, totally. We have to try something, the boat is sinking fast.

AprilOrit on March 6, 2009 at 1:31 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Hey, sharpie – have a look at the DJIA from July 1980 through March 1981, and try again.

Vashta.Nerada on March 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Vashta.Nerada on March 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM

That’s been his most popular answer lately.

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM

firepilot on March 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Agreed, social issues should be for the most part handled on the local level. As the federal government drops back its power and influence, many social issues like abortion take care of themselves.
The only social issue that the federal government should be involved in is making sure that Freedom of religion is allowed, that we are a nation under God…not be actively engaged in removing God and keeping people from expressing their religion in public places.

Conservative Voice on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

AprilOrit on March 6, 2009 at 1:31 PM

It will be okay.

The younger generation is more tolerant to social issues but you will have to fight the gop causes depressions.

Then, if they can’t stand up to a radio entertainer, how will they protect the country.

Hopefully, gop power will not be seen in our lifetimes.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

firepilot: “People fear social conservatives trying to make laws based on morality and religious beliefs.”

Umm no.

1. Roe V Wade is a *legal* boondoggle. And citizens should NEVER be ashamed to stand up for human rights.

2. Marriage is attempting to be changed by the *true* arbiters of morality. The definition of marriage has existed for a few thousand years- its the current crop of boneheads who have *created new morals* which change its definition. Civil unions in CA have ALL THE RIGHTS of married couples. Its the cultural institution they are after.

DavidM on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I see the meds are working to perfection get-a-nuts

When is your economics professor due to be released from the asylum?

You’re a pathetic liar. But thanks for the comic relief.

Rovin on March 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Michael Steele meet Tim Geithner.

Both losers with no help.

Captain America on March 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Rovin on March 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Well, the President is saying he inherited this mess but has not used the d word yet.

Some economists are.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I think you need to getaclue who blocked efforts at reform of Fannie and Freddie? “Mr. Chairman we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and in particular at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines.” Please go get a clue and stop spouting this crap about a Bush depression.

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I still wonder why you give this witless nincompoop in the Oval Office that much credit. Sir, you overestimate his potential, by a huge margin.

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

????

He’s already doing it, where have you been?

Should I list it for you?

1) Socilized Medicine

2) Roll-Back on Welfare Reforms

3) Huge Tax Rate Increase

4) Mortgage Bailouts

5) Bank Bailouts

6) Auto Bailouts

7) Huge Cuts in Defense

8) No More I.C.E. Raids

9) Corrupt Radical Admistration

And I got more, so wondering why I’m worried?

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The Great depression belonged to Hoover.

This one belongs to bush.

What shall we call it?

The great bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Rahm is a genius.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 12:35 PM

So was Adolf Hitler.

Your point?

-Dave

Dave R. on March 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I didn’t mention: National Defense, Closing GITTMO, Hummas Connections Aid, TARP 1 & 2, Porkulous, Huge Unfunded Budget Debt that future generations will pay…

And you think this is not a danger, this is just week #6, WEEK SIX, omg, what will America look like in 1 year, 2, 3?

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The Great depression belonged to Hoover.

This one belongs to bush.

What shall we call it?

The great bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:42 PM

No, the initial recession happened under Hoover, and he screwed up the recovery by being too protectionist and socialist. FDR made it the great depression by pushing even more socialism.
Recessions happen–Depressions are made. And P.BO is getting a good start on making this one.

Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Thanks but I will go with the history books on this one.

The right tends to try to rewrite history.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

We should all be upset because this man left.

He has been doing such a great job. /s

Not

I suspect that he was asked to leave and given the option of resigning.

HonestConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Exactly. Why on earth kiss this guy’s butt or assume that he is indispensible/important to the restructuring of the RNC? Was anybody here ever blown away by the RNC’s online operations? Anybody?

Actually, the RNC website was absolutely pathetic in the fall of 2008, IMHO. McCain/Palin’s blew it away, as did several of the start-up groups. Hopefully Steele can attract some talent from some of those groups I donated to because they had great ads about Fannie/Freddie and other stuff.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Should I list it for you?

1) Socilized Medicine
2) Roll-Back on Welfare Reforms
3) Huge Tax Rate Increase
7) Huge Cuts in Defense
8) No More I.C.E. Raids
9) Corrupt Radical Admistration

And I got more, so wondering why I’m worried?

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Nearly all of these things applied to the Clinton administration as well, and we’re still here. The primary difference is that, for all of his faults, Slick Willie was very skilled at the political point game. So far, Obama is showing that he isn’t. Media support isn’t going to be enough to compensate for his lack of cunning, if it’s already eroding less than two months into his term. This makes Obama far less of a threat than Clinton, and if we’re looking at a potential congressional takeover in 2010, he’s going to be hurting…bad.

4) Mortgage Bailouts
5) Bank Bailouts
6) Auto Bailouts

Already done by Bush, and helped by conservatives like Paul Ryan. Attributing that to Obama is dishonest.

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 1:50 PM

DavidM on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

There is a bit of a conceptual trap that pulls moderates into the Democrat camp. Basically, there is a broad effort to proclaim that the social cons are trying to use government to take control of your private life. The truth is that the social libs are the ones using the control, with affirmative action, hat crime laws, speech codes, discrimination suits, etc.
Once you realize how far its gone, the only reasonable place for a social moderate to be is with the republicans–but, until then, they will keep voting for democrats.

Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM

ED DESERVES A PROMOTION.

I NOMINATE ED FOR RNC ONLINE HEAD CHEESE.

1

seejanemom on March 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Thanks but I will go with the history books on this one.

The right tends to try to rewrite history.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

When the first draft is factually incorrect, you would be a fool to trust it blindly.

Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Wow getalife, it’s really cool that Mr. Axelrod still pays you $8 an hour to hang out in the comments section here. How sweet….he does care deeply for you and the rest of the astroturfing brigades.

I’m not quite sure why anybody bothers to answer you or discuss anything with you, since your job is to simply appear to write things that are 180 degrees out of synch with the truth….like conservatives like to rewrite history.

Historical revision is a highly respected academic pursuit on the left, and has been for at least 30 years. You know, the whole “Jefferson and Washington owned slaves and are therefore shameful bastards,” and “Hitler was right wing (National Socialist….hmmm), and “democrats supported civil rights for blacks,” etc, etc.

first and last comment directed at the astroturfer; other sane folks here may want to stop feeding it…poor thing would lose that generous Axelrod salary though.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

I believe we covered this yesterday. This depression belongs to Barack Obama. It does not work to say the other guy is at fault. Not when your party has had the purse strings since 2006. At the time they took over it was record highs.

Bush caved to Dems no doubt. That is why no one if pretends he leads the Republican Party. Spending like Democrats is why the Republicans lost congress in 2006. Now the consequence of spending like Democrats is being felt.

There are still some confused folks out there–this is new and scary. But when the situation is analysed, hopefully before the next election, the true irresponsible spenders in congress will be turned out of office.

And if Obama has not manipulated the census and stuffed all the ballot boxes with ACORN’s false votes he will be gone too.

Therefore, it will be years and years before we get over what Obama and his fellows have done thus far. Someday– some glorius day–all this nonsense will be undone.

In that day America will be free again.

petunia on March 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

CDlinton, forced by Republican, made the largest imporvment in welfare in a generation, rolling it back, welfare to work reforms…

Obama just rolled all that away, killed it and re-introduced MORE welfare…

Clinton got hammered, as did Hillary, for Health Care… Obama is going full speed to Socialize and Nationalize ALL Health Care including rationing… He has the votes, it WILL pass…

Clinton did not stop immigration raids, Obama did…

Look, Bush was WRONG on many, many issues I care about…

He was NOT my Messiah, or hero… He was in his spirit a man that I think LOVED America, I do not think that of Obama.

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

There is a bit of a conceptual trap that pulls moderates into the Democrat camp. Basically, there is a broad effort to proclaim that the social cons are trying to use government to take control of your private life. The truth is that the social libs are the ones using the control, with affirmative action, hat crime laws, speech codes, discrimination suits, etc.
Once you realize how far its gone, the only reasonable place for a social moderate to be is with the republicans–but, until then, they will keep voting for democrats.

Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM

AMEN… We don’t want in your life, we want Government OUT of ours and our Churches and our Schools!

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Typical of most social cons on here, you take it to the absurd extreme.

WisCon on March 6, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Nice Ad hominem attack on a whole group of people you don’t agree with. Where have I seen this tactic employed before? looks vaguely familiar.

neuquenguy on March 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM

He was NOT my Messiah, or hero… He was in his spirit a man that I think LOVED America, I do not think that of Obama.

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

And we agree. I simply think you’re attributing too much intelligence to him as well as too much stupidity. His ego is at the forefront of his mind. He is going to make concessions like any other president, in order that he can keep office come 2012. It’s if he remains in office that the real danger will begin…unless the Republicans have retaken office by then and can fight him. He’s going to be fumbling around worse than Carter for the next four years, and the people are going to get fed up.

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM

If this guy, Krohn, was the guru of the tech area for the RNC, then I am thrilled he is GONE BYE BYE. I have had nothing but trouble with the website and there have been errors on the page more often than not. We need someone who truly knows what they are doing, and can make it simple. It certainly was not Krohn. So long, Krohn, and don’t let the doorknob hit you in the a<<.

Michael, whatever you are doing, keep cleaning house and get some true conservatives in there, hopefully even more conservative than you. I appreciate very much your visibility as our leader when the last one was never seen nor heard from and I was a precinct chair. I don’t know who the last RNC Chair was. He was no where doing nothing, so you didn’t hear about his mistakes, but you sure saw them in the election of John McCain as our nominee. You couldn’t be any more liberal than our last leader and the last RNC team. Anything is an improvement over that crowd. Good to see them all gone, and the more gone the better.

doncow on March 6, 2009 at 2:07 PM

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Specifically blaming Bush isn’t very intelligent. I am in no way saying he is blameless. He certainly spent more money than a drunken sailor on shore leave for most of his administration. The economy started tanking in 2006 when the housing bubble began to burst. For that fiasco there is plenty of blame to go around. Democrats and Republicans are about equally responsible.

Your logic also breaks down when you claim Hoover was responsible for the Great Depression. I do agree he messed up royally by trying to fix the economy. Everything he tried made it even worse. I would argue that the Smoot-Hawley Tariff was the primary cause. It was drafted by two Republicans (Utah and Oregon), but would assert that this turned a recession into the Great Depression. The tariff narrowly passed, and it was mainly along party lines. Republicans For and Democrats against. Before you claim victory saying that this is proof, you need to understand the platform of the parties at the time. Republicans were protectionist and Democrats were free trade. Which political party shares the same characteristics as the Republican party of 1930?

txaggie on March 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM

txaggie on March 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Smoot Hawley was a catalyst for severe reduction in trade just like Porkulus and Omnibus was the catalyst for the tanking of the Dow. Obama owns this he could have sent signals that he would preside over increased trade instead he chose to preside over the greatest wealth destruction of any American President evah. The markets have no confidence and Geithner and Obama are doing nothing but fiddling. Where is Geithner anyway?

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM

So he quit without having another job lined up? In this economy? Krohn had to be pretty desperate to leave, and Republicans have to ask themselves why.

Maybe he didn’t want to have to learn how to be a DJ. (Or whatever the guys that scratch records are called.)

FloatingRock on March 6, 2009 at 2:21 PM

He is going to make concessions like any other president, in order that he can keep office come 2012. It’s if he remains in office that the real danger will begin…unless the Republicans have retaken office by then and can fight him. He’s going to be fumbling around worse than Carter for the next four years, and the people are going to get fed up.

MadisonConservative on March 6, 2009 at 2:02 PM

It seems as if the hard-left of the Democrat party decided this was their last, best opportunity to push for everything they want to secure themselves in office. They’re trying to play the next 20 years of soft socialist degeneration in fast-forward, figuring they’ve got two years of unlimited power to restructure the electorate, and the relationship between private industry and government. In a few months, we’ve gone from soft socialism to soft fascism. Since things are not quite bad enough to get a solid majority of Americans willing to vote in hard fascism – the kind that decides who gets to vote in the future – I expect things will get quite a lot worse before 2010.

We can only hope the Republican pushback is expressed with equal vigor and boldness. Now is not the time to run on a platform of cutting Obama’s insane spending binge by 2% and proudly declaring yourself “conservative,” GOP politicians. Now is not even the time to run on scaling the madness back by 80%, or throwing in a couple of business-friendly initiatives to make this bucket of swill go down a little easier. The season of radicalism has been declared, and a radical response is warranted.

I hope the GOP can remind the voters of 2010 just how backward Obama’s policies are. Did Americans really vote to build a bridge to 1929? Republicans should remember that in the current environment, conservatives ARE the progressives.

Doctor Zero on March 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Where is Geithner anyway?

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Apparently the Congress in their great wisdom has kept the only guy at treasury busy telling them what they already know or what he doesn’t know…. It is so self-defeating!

petunia on March 6, 2009 at 2:54 PM

But global warming, campaign finance, etc. those are part of the corporatist wing of the party (which masquerades as fiscal conservatism). The opposition to global warming is about protecting corporations from having to shift the way they use/produce energy. The opposition to campaign finance is about protecting corporations ability to control the electoral cycle via donations no individual American can match. That’s something, but it’s not social conservatism. McCain was a social con.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM

You are weird.

True_King on March 6, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Doctor Zero on March 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM

After Nationalized Health Rationed Care….

will be…

AMNESTY!!!

Live it, love it…

It’s a “right” you know!

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM
The young people who aren’t apathetic about politics are either libertarians or socialists. I’m no libertarian, but I think an emphasis on smaller government would highly appeal to them.

youngTXcon on March 6, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Exactly. Why are personal issues of how someone wants to live, the business of the Republican Party? And no, Reagan did not run on social issues. He ran on 3 major points – Lowering taxes, Strong Defense, and aggressive foreign policy against USSR (rollback, not just the old containment).

But if I was to say those major points and talk about getting goverment out of our lives on a moral and social basis, people here have called me “Democrat-lite”.

Its you who are fine with more government in our live as long as it fits your social ideals, that are more like the Dems who also want more government in our lives when it fits their ideals.

Lets get the GOP back to Economic AND Individual liberty. People do not want a nanny state of the right either, and that why the Intermountain West is trending Democratic instead of being a GOP stronghold. People fear social conservatives trying to make laws based on morality and religious beliefs.

firepilot on March 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM

bingo!

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM

txaggie on March 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
More people should blame Warren G. Harding & Silent Cal for the Great Depression [though Hoover tried FDR-lite economic policies before he left office].

youngTXcon on March 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM

Doctor Zero on March 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM
History teaches us that violent pendulum swings as a means of correction are dangerous [e.g., see 1950s & radical reponse of hippies]. Isn’t a radical libertarian response just as dangerous as national socialism?

youngTXcon on March 6, 2009 at 3:14 PM

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 3:07 PM

I am very very pro life and don’t want to see the protection of life dropped ever. I will say though this is not going to drive voters in any upcoming election. The focus needs to be on economic and individual liberty. The only exception I think could be a factor is FOCA and removing protection for conscientious objection for healthcare professionals. Also the insertion of government in the family by denying parental notification. I would focus on those areas when people start feeling the effects of these changes. These are in fact denials of liberty and insertion of government in family. It is made of fail.

msmveritas on March 6, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Honestly folks; getalife shows up and posts a couple of dumb & dumber posts, sticking his/her finger in your chests, and bingo; the thread becomes all about the idiot = hijacked.

Mission accomplished!

Can’t help but to wonder why this troll hasn’t been banned.

Keemo on March 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM

wait, now Aunty is confused. We wait for Obama to destroy the U.S., the 18-29 crowd will flock to our party, and we’ll take back the country in 2010 led by …. Micheale Steele? …….That’s the plan? What part of this plan doesn’t sound feasable? Is it just me?
I’m wondering if C. Krohn quit bescause of the GOP “leadership” vacuum occuring at the national level…
(sigh)

greataunty on March 6, 2009 at 3:22 PM

Can’t help but to wonder why this troll hasn’t been banned.

Keemo on March 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM

The plot thickens.

neuquenguy on March 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Can’t help but to wonder why this troll hasn’t been banned.

Keemo on March 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM

I’m asking myself the same thing.

Ryan Gandy on March 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM

Doctor Zero on March 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM

You are a real asset to this site comrade. Most every one of your comments are well worth the time! Good for you…

There are several good discussions about what-where-how the Republican Party went wrong. I agree with most of what these discussions have detailed. The biggest dynamic I can see stems from the party falling down on the Conservative values and principles that were so clearly outlined by Newt back in the early 90′s. Corruption, sex scandals, pork spending, and several other weaknesses starting spreading throughout the party, thus giving the opposing party a stranglehold on these individuals. A compromising of one’s principles lead to a compromise of political power. Republicans were living a life that is not the life they were preaching to the base. We need leaders who stand for solid core values and principles, leaders who will not be compromised by their own behavior, leaders who are proudly preach the ideology of the Republican Party and who are not afraid to take on the other side and form the debate to be about the values and principles that clearly define the difference between the two parties.

Short version: Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin are becoming the stars of the Republican party because the base wants-needs true Conservative’s to lead at this time. Wishy-washy RHINO’S have lead us to slaughter!

Keemo on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

“I hope the GOP can remind the voters of 2010 just how backward Obama’s policies are. Did Americans really vote to build a bridge to 1929? *Republicans should remember that in the current environment, conservatives ARE the progressives.*”

Doctor Zero on March 6, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Amen to that!

youngTXcon on March 6, 2009 at 3:48 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Well, at least liberals are consistent; not even their president is willing to take any personal responsibility. I suppose Obama was tricked into running for president by Karl Rove?

bitsy on March 6, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Geez- maybe the RNC elite and the GOP “moderate” talkin’ heads should stop trashin’ the conservative base.

Maybe they should stand up NOW against illegal immigration, bailouts, spending and creeping socialism.

In short- BE MORE LIKE REAGAN, and less like libs.

Then- maybe we’d send’em more money and THEY COULD GET BETTER HELP.

ExTex on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Maybe this “meltdown” is just what the GOP needs. Some turmoil, some heads rolling, and a realization the being conservative means BEING CONSERVATIVE.

I’m a registered Republican in a non-partisan city council race. Not having the RNC/GOP noose around my neck is actually kind of refreshing. I get to talk about who I am, why I believe what I believe, and how those PRINCIPALS are best for the city in the long term.

It’s like preaching Jesus in remote villages that hadn’t previously heard of Him. No preconceived (and errant) ideas.

pugwriter on March 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

the GOP needs platforms and applications to allow more people to self-organize and become activists.

“Change comes quickly online and the tide will turn again in favor of the GOP, once we hone our message and harness emerging technologies. To do that, we must match Democrats, programmer-for-programmer,” Krohn wrote. “Regrettably, we’re in terribly short supply of professionals focused solely on building platforms and applications. This is where we got dot bombed in 2006 and 2008. Maybe we should start providing computer science scholarships in exchange for a commitment to serve our party?”

RNC finance chair Tim Chapman

Abruptly, RNC finance chair Tim Chapman quit without notice, paid off? That would answer how he’s going to get by right now without employment.

If Chapman were indeed committed to the success of the RNC, why would he quit at the very moment he’s needed most unless he were pushed out by Steele?

Did Steele lay-off everyone else and expect Chapman to cover their responsibilities as well as his own job description?

Chapman is absolutely correct in his synopsis of what the conservative movement needs from its members in order to compete effectively against the overwhelming monopoly of Socialist propaganda established media elitists.

Grassroots, heed the call to learn, teach and make effect.

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:30 PM

“Regrettably, we’re in terribly short supply of professionals focused solely on building platforms and applications.”

RNC, Heritage Foundation, et.al., get it together:
ORGANIZE SEMINARS FOR ADULTS AND SUMMER CAMPS FOR YOUTH.

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:32 PM

REACTION

As per organization, don’t walk the plank headstrong when the ship contains the necessities for survival. The political infrastructure and tax laws per political finance favor the two established parties, and make it nearly impossible for a new party to economically exist with any effect other than spoiler.

As per disillusionment over corruption, that’s a fact of life no matter who is concerned and who is involved. No matter how pure something begins, no matter how perfect the ideals, implementation occurs via people, and people have faults. The RNC has a vastly higher standard than the DNC, not to excuse the RNC for its failings, just taking everything into consideration.

Steele’s mission is to reform the RNC to restore conservatism. He just began. Let’s keep our eye on the ball, and see what we may be able to do to help our conservative concerns with the tools at hand with the people best suited and WILLING.

AVOID DISTRACTIONS

FOCUS ON REACHING THE GOAL

SUPPORT TEAM PLAYERS

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Jerry Thompson referenced Obama’s warmed over Clinton left-overs.

I reference the RNC warmed over McCain left-overs.

Pacification is the surest way to repetitive loss to the opponent.

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Press Release from Chairman Michael Steele: I am very glad to report that my initiative to attract the young Hip/Hop and the One Arm Midget vote has succeeded beyond my wildest dreams. I am therefore expanding the outreach of the RNC to include Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves. I will purchasing a wagon for the Travalin Show, to preach a little Gospel and sell a couple of bottle of doctor good!

sabbott on March 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Exactly. This is not the end, but the beginning. There are plenty of replacements for the tech job, other RNC jobs. Let’s face it, if they were all that great, we wouldn’t be in this spot.

The MSM wants to spin this as an ‘out of control RNC’ and they play to the issue of Rush vs GOP like it’s a civil war within our party.

Let us all remember Hillary vs Obama:

1. Pelosi threaten to have Super Delegates push their votes early (against Hillary)

2. FL and MI were angry at their votes not counted

3. PUMA’s (Party Unity My A$$) were born!

TN Mom on March 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Who cares. The current incarnation of the RNC is useless. I think that’s probably the one thing moderate and conservative Republicans can agree on.

The RNC has never done anything for me, except sending annoying fundraising solicitations telling me how vitally important they are. I donate directly to the candidates that I like and couldn’t care less about the rest of deadweight the party insists on dragging around. Seriously, what’s the RNC for, and do we still need it?

I had high hopes for Steele, having liked him as Lt. Gov in Maryland, but he seems to have lost his strategic mojo in the transition to the national scene. So what we have now is ineffectual, entitled, directionless, and cowardly. They’re easily distracted by stupid stuff (Birtherism) and unwilling to engage on real issues. Whatever rises from these ashes has got to be an improvement.

GalosGann on March 6, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Jerry Thompson referenced Obama’s warmed over Clinton left-overs.

I reference the RNC warmed over McCain left-overs.

Pacification is the surest way to repetitive loss to the opponent.

maverick muse on March 6, 2009 at 4:52 PM

I hate to tell you this,but the RNC was staffed by Bush and Rove people. Mel Martinez was hand picked by Bush, not by McCain.

They were deadweight and need to go, but they weren’t recruited or promoted by McCain.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 7:20 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Again the loon speaks. I guess that the country never existed before Bush, like Bush didn’t inherit the Clinton recession (Dot-Com bubble? Guess you never heard of that. Or that Clinton inherited the Bush 41 recession (Gulf War?), or that Reagan inherited the Carter recession? No housing crisis in 1982, sure.
You, sir, are a fool. And, for your edification, that is an Ad Hominem attack, since you obviously understand nothing but that and being a minor nuisance to the adults. Now go back to your basement and let the adults handle the situation so that you might actually have something when you grow up.
Pffft.

TinMan13 on March 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Who wants another depression?
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Judging from every thing he’s done and is doing since he took office, Barack Hussein Obama, so he can remake America into a Socialist County.

kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM

True. But you can’t expect O-bots to grasp the obvious.

ddrintn on March 6, 2009 at 8:36 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

No, he inherited a recession (just as Bush inherited the Clinton recession); the difference is Obama’s doing his darnedest to turn it into a depression. You know, “a crisis is a terrible thing to waste” and all that.

ddrintn on March 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Who really cares what happens. As long as Snowe, Collins and Specter are members in good standing after having undermined the entire party by twice voting for the stimulus instead of sending it to defeat forcing a rewrite with Repub demands I could care less what happens with the repub party. It is the party of losers and has been since 2004.

They violated to the extreme, fiscal restraint and small government bias in all their actions leading to the current Obama admin with dem majorities in both houses. If that wasn’t enough then the three Senators further empowered Obama at a critical moment. For this they still are members in good standing.

Steele by not saying anything is just another loser in what is becoming a long line.

Here’s a prediction. Snowe, Collins and Specter are not done f’king us. We deserve it.

patrick neid on March 6, 2009 at 9:29 PM

This is why Obama’s team put a whipping on McCain. The difference’s in tech savvy between the 2 parties is a mile wide. Talk radio fires up the base but Rush can’t win elections for you. Limbaugh chases away the moderates and independents, the very people you need to win elections in a closely divided nation. What part of that don’t you people understand?Maybe you people can’t change your views on a big tent strategy. Steele was a bad choice, I knew from the get go, you people are starting to wake up to it too.

athensboy on March 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

athensboy on March 6, 2009 at 9:35 PM

So, you don’t like “small tent” Limbaugh, and you don’t like “big tent” Steele.

LOL

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Is it time to start a new party?

JeffVader on March 6, 2009 at 10:02 PM

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM

some body help me out here; has this person EVER been able to back up his/her opinions with facts and data?
Ever? I’ve only been here since last summer (as a reader) and since November as a poster.

Red State State of Mind on March 6, 2009 at 10:35 PM

He inherited a bush depression.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Mao-bama takes credit for 25 new jobs in Ohio, but none of those 650,000 jobs lost in Feb. are even remotely connected to the political pendulum.

LOL!

What did ALL the presidential polls predict since about August?

Where was the DOW in August?

What did all the presidential polls predict in September?

Where was the DOW in September?

What did ALL the presidential polls predict in October?

Where was the DOW in October?

Who won the election in November?

What happened to the DOW after election day?

What’s happened to the DOW since?

Not only did equities decrease in value about 25% from August to election day, but from that new adjusted value, it has decreased 25% since election day.

The markets have no confidence in Mao-bama.

But it’s cool that we have a President that doesn’t look like any one on our currency.

Whoopie!

Doh!

Saltysam on March 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM

If Mitt Romney starts a third party that is based on the OLD Republican platform of small government (out of my face, please) and fiscal sanity I am SO with him I’d be willing to retire rather than go on working for nothing anyway and push HARD on his side.
 
I am tired of the Reporklicans who want to intrude government into my liberties. I am tired of of the Religicans who want to intrude government into my liberties. Regardless of how “good” either or both of these agendas may appear the first thing I want is “get the government the crap out of my life and my economy.” Then keep other nations and other people out of my life and my economy using what ever military or diplomatic means may seem appropriate at the time.
 
THEN I will negotiate about petty things like
(1) abortion (which is abominable no matter how you solve the issue with present technology),
(2) banning or permitting prayer in schools,
(3) banning, permitting, or mandating “Intelligent Design” in our schools, or any other social issues you might worry about.
 
If the Federal government is small enough and outward directed enough then you can solve your social problems at the state or local level YOUR way instead of some Federal bureaucrat who thinks Long Beach is 20 miles West of Kansas City which is 400 miles West of Washington, DC so they all have the same problems.
 
Give me back the small government Republican party. Or I will leave it in a flash for the head in the sand Libertarians. Even Ron Paul (ICK!) would be better than what we have as choices in the Republican party today. And as God is my witness I NEVER thought I’d find myself saying this.

{^_^}

herself on March 7, 2009 at 3:36 AM

I do not see this as a RNC meltdown. I see this as another part of the corrections needed to make the GOP relevant again.

DannoJyd on March 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Thanks but I will go with the history books on this one.

The right tends to try to rewrite history.

getalife on March 6, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Did the RIGHT rewrite this??? Based on reading other posts of yours, I have determined that your knowledge of history, current world affairs and economics are rather shallow, incoherent and just plain incorrect.

What are you upset about? Did you get picked on as a kid because you were not as wealthy as the other kids and your parents forced you to wear the K-mart special shoes to school while everyone else were wearing NIKEs. I sense some resentment and hostility towards those who have more than you.

I bet many of us here were like you as children, with one exception. We decided that if we wanted to be successful and wealthy, that we would work hard for it. You would rather snivel and wait for the government to take from those who EARNED what they have and give it to you.

Here is a history lesson for you! Yes, it is posted on the HOME page, but, I figured you were tooooooooooo lazy to F’in find it!

74SeventeenSeventySix on March 7, 2009 at 9:45 AM

OK, there seems to be a big misconception by a lot of people about what it means to be a conservative. Especially this getalife guy. I would like to explain for those that seem to have become confused.

Conservatism protects the power of each and every individual to make decisions for themselves as long as they do not intrude upon the rights and liberties of another individual. Your freedom is not absolute. Conservatives are not anarchists.

Conservatism believes that each individual is responsible and accountable for their actions. People should be expected to make the best decisions they can, and to bear the consequences for when they make mistakes. Conservatism is not for easy for children, regardless of age. It expects you to be an adult to practice it.

Conservatism believes that governments can be inherently dangerous to individual freedom, but are also necessary for some purposes. So it is important to limit the functions of the government to only the things that are necessary in order to minimize the danger of the government to your liberties.

Conservatism believes that you are much better able to make good decisions for your family and yourself than the government is. If you are not, then conservatives feel you should learn from your mistakes and get better at it rather than abdicating the responsibility for your own decisions to the government.

Conservatives believe that charity is a PRIVATE and INDIVIDUAL responsibility. It is not something that you impose on others against their will. Therefore, it is not one of the things that a government should be participating in.

I think that is a good start. If you wish to debate those points getalife, then feel free. Please tell me where they are wrong.

Hawthorne on March 8, 2009 at 7:29 AM

We need to use our values and morality as assets. We need to promote them and talk about them. What I most hear Conservatives and Republicans speak about is how awful the opponents are in different regards. We do not advertise and we are obviously bent on shedding blood over hoisting our values high.

A craftsman knows well the adage to measure twice and cut once. I dare say that a $400 million dollar, 8 year contractor has a guild behind him to construct twice measured carefully crafted talking points to send out nationwide over the airwaves. Anyone that could consider Rush to represent the party is an utterly inexperienced manager. Consider the one simple asset about Rush that any weekday more than 13 million listeners comprised of all political likes will tune in and listen. I don’t mean to cloud this point; they don’t simply tune in and have the show on in the background, they listen to what he has to say. They thirst, hunger, and eat what he has to say. What is it that Michael Steele or any other party leader has that can measure up to that? A very poor manager would deprecate a productive asset to an ad hoc persona.

Michael Steele’s shortcoming and that of any potential Republican Party leader, is their liability of easily being led off-topic. Make a comparison with the libs that have had voices over the years like Gore, Kerry, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, and don’t forget airwave voices like Colmes, Matthews, and (this is killing me to type) Olbermann. Can you believe that hardly a media soul cared when Pelosi responded to the question of the contrary position she, a self-describe devout practicing Catholic, has with The Pope’s on abortion? “He has his opinion and I have mine.” – The Magisterium be damned! The libs do not waiver and will not be led off point.

I frequently read HAer’s write things like “that is just like a lib” when the libs spew out some unrelated inane point to a question. I liken it to arguing with a person that only has one thought. You will not win that argument. If Michael Steele continues to be led off point then he will only continue to be divisive and an asset for the libs.

ericdijon on March 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM

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