Ramirez picks up the Nero theme
posted at 8:57 am on March 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
On Wednesday, I wrote that the main theme of the first six weeks of the new administration was this: Obama fiddled with Rush Limbaugh while Wall Street burned. It turns out that Investors Business Daily editorial cartoonist Michael Ramirez was on the same wavelength. Today’s entry by the two-time Pulitzer winner captures this perfectly, extending it to the entire Democratic political leadership (via Power Line):
Ramirez has a terrific collection of his works: Everyone Has the Right to My Opinion, which covers the entire breadth of Ramirez’ career, and it gives a fascinating look at political history. Read my review here, and watch my interviews with Ramirez here and here. And don’t forget to check out the entire IBD site, while individual investors still exist.
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And keep in mind the recession started a year before the banks collapsed.
It’s a bush depression.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Under Bush it did wobble
Obama with his arson is making it topple
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Keep in mind that the recession started with a Democratic congress.
It’s a Pelosi/Reid/Frank/Dodd recession.
Furthermore, Depression V. 2.0 is courtesy of Barack Obama.
carbon_footprint on March 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Thanks to the HA poster who contributed this to my archive:
Obama Economics
RepubChica on March 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM
GM stock is down 14% in the first hour of trading.
That is $140,000,000 of the bailout money GONE WITH THE WIND.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 10:36 AM
How nostalgic!
Well, you scumbags are still blaming “McChimp I” while we’re now REALLY going down in flames because of McChimp II.
TexasJew on March 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Keep repeating it, and maybe you’ll believe it.
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM
That’s odd, cause it seems to me the economy was fine till the democrats took over congress.
And didn’t Bush say something about the housing market regulatory what have you around 2001?
Odd how your memory drops ceertain pertinent facts.
loudmouth883 on March 6, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Bush “said something” about it? How comforting. Why didnt he DO something about it, particularly when he had majorities in Congress?
orange on March 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Bush Recession/Obama Depression
Get yer red-hot bumper stickers here. Get yer stickers!!!
hawkdriver on March 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM
Democraps….’O'……soon to be the balance of your portfolio.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Keep repeating it, and maybe you’ll believe it.
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 10:45 AM
You don’t really expect the libs to take responsibility for anything, do you? Blaming someone else is the name of their game, Bush will still be in the crosshairs in 2012 because like all children, the lefties can’t understand how things really work.
Bishop on March 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM
It’s history repeating itself again. bush = hoover.
Obama=FDR.
Hey, lets let the new FDR fix it and elect gop to destroy it again.
Insane in the membrane.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Ooops…..S&P and NASDAQ just both went red.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 10:53 AM
There is a fast growing but very quiet expansion of state militias. Sniff around with Google and you will see what I mean. Tons of WOT vets are coming back and they. are. pissed. Obama is playing with matches while sitting on a powder keg. He has no clue.
Guardian on March 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Have you eaten yet today?
hawkdriver on March 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM
And what exactly did the democrats do about it besides encourage poor judgment in lending practices? It seems they did their best to do the exact opposite of anything Bush said, no matter how destructive or irresponsible.
Oh, and you do know how our government works, right? Bush couldn’t just wave his presidential wand and make things happen, unlike the thinking of the savoir.
loudmouth883 on March 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM
The RATS will claim the Housing crisis is Bush’s. He actually did nothing about it but it was the creation of Barney Frank. He set it in motion and then spent his time getting buggered in his Washington residence while it fell apart. Now he has the gall to blame others…
sabbott on March 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM
He sure has drank enough Kool aid.
loudmouth883 on March 6, 2009 at 10:57 AM
More liberal elitism arrogance.
The democrats are sure the unwashed masses are too ignorant to notice that ObaMcCarthy is attacking a private citizen rather than change the tone and operation of Washington politics.
Of course they are completely justified in this attitude after watching 75% of this country either vote for a Marxist or not care enough to vote against him. And then we have these so-called “conservatives” who bought into the first bailout. Now that their treason against conservative principles is exposed in all it’s ugliness, these self same loudmouths have conveniently crawled back into the woodwork. We told them that the first bailout would spawn more bailouts AND encourage Americans to stop being responsible.
We need to polarize the conservative movement in order to force the RINO’s to pick a side and stick with it come hell or high water.
csdeven on March 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Guardian on March 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM
It’s new to me but I have found myself discussing such things with my friends, what we would do if the shiite really hits the fan. We talk about how the city dwellers would react, where they would go and what they would do when they got there.
The idea of a community defense arrangement was thrown out there for consideration, though I don’t know if the actual formation of such a thing would even be possible in my environs.
Bishop on March 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Zing! +100
scalleywag on March 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Bush fucked up royally on the domestic front with the unreigned out-of-control spending and not DOing much on that end. He totally gave in to the creeping shadow of big government. Conceded. But who’s hailing Bush as big perfect leader? Anyone that serves their conservative principles up on a platter for liberal consumption is not a friend of mine.
RepubChica on March 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM
hawkdriver on March 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Have you dwelled in reality today?
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Sure he has. can’t you smell the shit on his breath? All he does is gobble up the little balls of shit that roll out of ObMcCarthy’s mouth.
csdeven on March 6, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Check out wikipedia on Fannie Mae, especially the part about controversy and early warnings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_mae
Basically, Clinton pushed through looser regs in 1999, Bush tried to get tougher regs in place, Barney Frank & Dems lobbied against it, Fannie Mae pressured Dems and Repubs, and nothing was done.
Bush said what needed to be done. With the Iraq war, the economy doing okay, etc. I think he just saw this as a fight he couldn’t win and didn’t engage.
Bush understood the wisdom of “choose your battles.” Obama doesn’t. Hence Gibbs vs. Limbaugh.
cs89 on March 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM
except that FDR did NOT fix it. He had his financial balls in a vice and couldn’t spend his way out of it. The “New Deal” didn’t work then, and it hasn’t worked to this day. the ONLY thing that set these United States to right, financially, was our entry into WWII.
You cannot SPEND your way out of this mess. you cannot CREATE jobs by making more GOVERNMENT jobs. the government hasn’t got ANY money. It gets it’s funds from OUR wallets, through onerous taxation. 600,000 new government employees means that we basically have 600,000 new welfare recipients, because government, by it’s very nature CANNOT create anything. It simply uses other people’s money to accomplish tasks. it makes no profit. It will take nearly 100 American workers to pay the taxes to employ 1 government worker. Do the math, bright boy. If the “lightworker” wants to make 600,000 new government jobs, he needs to find 60,000,000 new workers to pay for them, OR increase the taxes on those same workers to fund his “new” jobs. That ain’t gonna happen.
We need to stop spending NOW, and start CUTTING programs to balance the government’s budget. That is the ONLY way this gets under control.
And BTW, Bush went to Congress 5 frikkin’ times to ask them to increase oversight and controls on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. He pointed out the coming problems, but Nancy & Harry refused to listen.
That’s reality, Boyo. You are welcome to your own opinion, but you are NOT welcome yo your own facts.
AW1 Tim on March 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Do you still want our President to fail in a bush depression?
How many Americans do you want to see suffer from this bush depression?
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:02 AM
FDR = New Deal and the revoking of civil liberties of American citizens
New Deal = Prolonging the Great Depression by at least 6 years
Great depression/New Deal/FDR = Appeasing psychotics throughtout the world
Psychotics in the world = World War 2
World War 2 = Holocaust and 72 million people dead.
yeah, it’s going awesome!@!!11!!!!
mjk on March 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Teams are growing. Individuals finally taking on the task of connecting, talking, training.
The Tac classes are sold out months in advance. The local ranges are doing a booming business.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Well they could suffer an FDR depression….
mjk on March 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM
I’m sure you’re “Constitutional Law Professor” has the economic chops to turn the current recession around before it becomes a “depression.”
/sarc
cs89 on March 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
I’ll say it. Just the blue ones.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Very telling of your maturity level. You have serious issues in dealing with reality. Like others have said, we can admit Bush’s faults. You, on the other hand, are driving down the highway along with Obama’s destructive policies at 100mph while looking in the rear view mirror to give Bush the finger.
As far as why didn’t Bush do something about the sub-prime markets when he had a Republican majority? Well, I can only say he tried and when he did it was turned into a racial third rail issue. {See Congressional Black Caucus}
MarkABinVA on March 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Sad.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Hey – the Messiah just saved 24 police jobs. The world is improving. Maybe I should buy stock in the uniform makers, since there seems to be some government demand there.
Fuquay Steve on March 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Fuquay Steve on March 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Finally, some good news.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Tough love, brother. You either are on one side of the line or the other. Neutral ground is rapidly disappearing.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I guess they should call it the bush global depression.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Hey – the Messiah just saved 24 police jobs. The world is improving. Maybe I should buy stock in the uniform makers, since there seems to be some government demand there.
Fuquay Steve on March 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Smart idea, considering that the ranks of “police” are going to go way up in numbers.
Specifically I would invest in companies which make brown uniforms.
Bishop on March 6, 2009 at 11:10 AM
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Funny.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM
getalife…..
All four markets just went red. Enjoy your Friday.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I will go with my country.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM
It’s history repeating itself again. bush = hoover.
Obama=FDR.
Hey, lets let the new FDR fix it and elect gop to destroy it again.
Insane in the membrane.
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Actually, I think world war 2 started to kick start the economy. Not FDR’s socialist policies. He spent, and spent, and kept the country in the depression longer than need be.
capejasmine on March 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM
capejasmine on March 6, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Yeah, that is RW spin rewriting history but he is credited for fixing it in the history books.
So will the President.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Since when is the President “my country”? Since Jan 20th, 2009?
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Right, because Bush was SO popular with all those foreign leaders and the Davos crowd, right? They all jumped in to grab those huge profits and buy those unregulated credit default swaps at Bush’s direction, right? Bwahahahaha.
rockmom on March 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I always go with my country. Period.
I never want my country to fail. Period.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Read David Ignatius in the Washington Post yesterday. Obama has the wrong Roosevelt. He should be emulating the Republican one, who told off J.P. Morgan to his face and stopped the “too big to fail” railroads. You know, the Roosevelt who IS on Mount Rushmore.
rockmom on March 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Then we are both fighting for the same thing.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:18 AM
rockmom on March 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Good, intellectual honest argument. I would have to agree and retract the global part. They jumped on the greed and are to blame.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:19 AM
The stock markets are now down about 25% since the boy genius took office just a month and a half ago. He is like the little old lady who hit the accelerator instead of the brakes and is now careening through the parking lot mowing people over and mumbling something about gyrations.
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Did you want Bush to fail, say, in 2005 or so?
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 11:21 AM
No.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:22 AM
The bargain rally at the opening bell has now been wiped out. Bush last seen dancing a jig in Highland Park. Film at 11.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Fair enough. But over half the Dems did at that point.
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM
First of all, Fannie and Freddie were a very small part of the overall problem. But that’s beside the main point here.
You seem to be saying that Bush was wise in the way he chose his battles. Personally, I think that if Bush felt strongly about better regulations in the housing market, I sure wish he had chosen that as an important battle back in the many years he had control of both houses of Congress. Maybe we wouldnt be in the mess we’re in.
orange on March 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM
This isn’t Venezuela you shit gobbling moron.
csdeven on March 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Well now, it is rather difficult to join together those two declarations of yours and your continuing and almost fawning support of the boy
wreaking machineking.MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Snowed In on March 6, 2009 at 11:24 AM
I am Independent not a dem supporter.
I will support my President in this bush depresssion.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:27 AM
HOOT! The Guv’ment letter carrier just dropped off a box of hammer springs, trigger springs, takedown springs, detents, roll pins, buffer pins, and magazine catches. It’s like coin collecting for bitter Bible clingers.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Social Engineering……….
……….. ‘ya just got ta love it!
Seven Percent Solution on March 6, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Even while the boy emperor turns a “Bush depression” into in fracken cluster #uck. Will you be chanting sis-boom-bah and waving pom-poms?
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Three words for you to ponder on………
Seven Percent Solution on March 6, 2009 at 11:34 AM
MB4 on March 6, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Yes.
It will turn around.
It always does.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:35 AM
That is the problem with Barrybots, they always “turn around”.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Nice hand, sir!
MarkABinVA on March 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM
No, its a Frannie and Freddie depression, which makes its owners Obama, Franks, Waters, and all their camp followers. So, getalife, it’s your depression too.
And I’m not being overly harsh here, either — it’s gotta be a depression at least three times worse than the Great Depression, because that’s how much money Obama and ilk are throwing at it.
unclesmrgol on March 6, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Correction, its a Fannie not a Frannie, which is why getalife thinks it will turn around, sort of like Prop 8.
unclesmrgol on March 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Het, geta
cluelife, why don’t you take short break and watch this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMInSfanqg
Feel any more enlightened now?
MarkABinVA on March 6, 2009 at 11:41 AM
The bush depression is our country depression.
The goal was to prevent that from happening. So far, we have not reached Bush I market numbers but the unemployment rate is rising. The goal of his agenda is to stop that.
getalife on March 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM
HOOT! The Guv’ment letter carrier just dropped off a box of hammer springs, trigger springs, takedown springs, detents, roll pins, buffer pins, and magazine catches. It’s like coin collecting for bitter Bible clingers.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Sounds to me like you are planning on building a few….ruh roh, watch out for the BATF.
Know what I got a few days ago out of the blue? A Magpul 30 rounder that I had ordered from DPMS about two months ago. I thought I would never see it and then BAM, it just shows up.
Bishop on March 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Joke of the day submission…..
MarkABinVA on March 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Kudos!
I’m Magpul poor but found that C-prods SS series of GI mags are the cat’s pajamas (IMO). Not knocking Magpul, just saying that you might want to give one or two a try. Palmetto Armory in NC usually has them in stock.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Oh, now it’s your country too? Previous to Obambi taking office I’m sure you didn’t think of America as your country nor did you consider yoursef a citizen of this country…you’re just a fair weather American is all you are!
As for this financial mess, sure Bush made some errors, just as other presidents did before him, however try as you might to deflect ALL of the blame to Bush the FACTS remain Dodd and Frank being in the pockets of FM/FM and green lighting lax regulatory oversight of the financial markets and forcing loan companies to give loans to people not credit worthy and/or not having the means to pay their loans (can you say ACORN) has destroyed our financial insitutions and the housing market, two very key components of our economy!
So you just go ahead and keep living in your pathetic delusional “light worker” world but that won’t change the fact most of the blame for this economic meltdown rests on the shoulders of the dems and your messiah!
Now please geta
lifeclue!Liberty or Death on March 6, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I will concede that Bush should have used the veto pen. He allowed the democrat congress to spend and waste too much money, while many Republicans stood by.
But that does not mean that increasing spending, increasing taxes, increasing waste will help. It obviously does not.
The liberals point out how Bush got us into this recession by over spending…but the libs embrace the off the chart, record spending in just the first few weeks.
If it was bad for Bush…it is horrible and a disaster for Obama.
Their argument, basically states, that their candidate (Obama) is worse then Bush.
It is a weird way to debate…our candidate is worse then yours, but yours started it?
right2bright on March 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM
I’m trying to decide who I like better, C&F or this guy. His message and art style grab you and let you know instantly what he’s talking about.
Yakko77 on March 6, 2009 at 12:15 PM
What Obama is doing is bankrupting our country, without having any effect on the economy (except to tank it). He should stop that.
What Obama is NOT doing… he should do… such as lowing taxes, reducing Government spending, encouraging charities.
dominigan on March 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Upon thinking about it a bit more, I like C&F better. Their art style was simpler but still got the message across. This guy is still great but his drawings are a bit too complex and technical in a way.
Yakko77 on March 6, 2009 at 12:57 PM
getalife,
You seem awful happy about the prospect of a depression. But then those of you on the left don’t care about the public commonwealth, you just care about being in power and suppressing your opponents.
rokemronnie on March 6, 2009 at 1:07 PM
FDR gave crappy gifts too?
Chuck Schick on March 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Nope this clearly the Obama depression…..deal with it.
His words have accelerated the crash…..his deeds will do more damage..
dec5 on March 6, 2009 at 1:20 PM
csdeven, may I suggest a one-way ticket to Venezuela for you?
No.
Well, I’m doing it anyway. still a troll i see.
OwlorNothing on March 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM
getalife, former economist Paul Krugman seems to be losing patience with the President. See the latest encyclical today?
There is a growing sense — not quite a consensus, but wait for it — that we’re short on leadership in the right places at the moment.
DrSteve on March 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM
dec5 on March 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM
FDR gave crappy gifts too?
Chuck Schick on March 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Nope. He just messed around with his assistant. I seemed to recall a couple of other Presidents that had affairs in the White House. Kennedy and Clinton. What party were they?
kingsjester on March 6, 2009 at 1:31 PM
DOW is down 50 now. It rose 250 at the opening bell. A 300 point swing in three hours. Glad my 401k went towards credit card debit and real property about three years ago.
Monday we’ll see the Unicorn raise it’s head out of the weeds. On Friday the 13th it’ll be stuffed and on display.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM
I see something brown stuck between your teeth and your breath stinks. Perhaps a tic-tac?
csdeven on March 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Sorry to be optimistic…it’s down 70 now.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Whoops….just hit -80
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Oh, God, I hope you made that up!
Al in St. Lou on March 6, 2009 at 1:43 PM
getalife, go ahead and call this a Bush Depression if you want to. But more and more people are coming out and saying that Obama is doing the wrong thing in the middle of this crisis we find ourselves in. Eventually Obama will have to assume responsibility for his own actions and the effect they are having on the economy. Like somebody else just said, consensus is slowly creeping out. When his own supporters start laying into him you may want to stop and evaluate your own blind devotion to him.
Hell, the Republicans could have done with that same advice at times over the last 8 years, wouldn’t you agree?
oddjob1138 on March 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM
And another thing getaclue, I’m sure Bambi’s promise to double the tax rate on investors has absolutely nothing to do with the precipitous drop in the stock market, wouldn’t you agree?
loudmouth883 on March 6, 2009 at 1:51 PM
The Democrats started all this back in the 1990s when they loosened-up the lending laws to allow people who could not afford a house buy a house. Now the Democrats want everyone to believe they can fix this mess from Washington with programs that will kill businesses. Excuse me if I don’t want to drink the kool-aid from the Democratic cup.
SC.Charlie on March 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Good news! The rally downwards continues.
If you think I’m happy about the financial impact on America’s family you are dead wrong. I’m happy that the market is working as it should.
Darwin at his best. Life lessons at it’s best. The longer Barry & Company pretend to control the markets the more pain will be inflicted on Joe and Jane Smith. You don’t like it? Then tell Barry to back the hell off.
Limerick on March 6, 2009 at 2:05 PM
I prefer that he succeeded in leading the country to prosperity, but, in order to do that, he is going to have to either fail at what he intends to do, or “see the light” and do something that will actually help instead.
Count to 10 on March 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM
The negativism started when Obama started leading in the polls. It’s why I was able to buy the business I purchased — the prior owner bailed when seeing the darkened horizon.
Wish I’d not been so optimistic the Republicans would hang in there, but so it goes. I may be out of business in another 6 months if this keeps up.
desertdweller on March 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM
orange on March 6, 2009 at 10:50 AM
They tried. They had the same problems the DumboCraps are having now – not enough votes to force cloture.
Famous YouTubes abound of Dodd, Waters, Franks and company in committee blocking regulatory oversight, along with a threatened filibuster from the Junior Senator from Illinois – wonder where THAT moron is now?
PJ Emeritus on March 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2D4mK95NQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN31-nKndg8
FYI, the economy was growinguntil the DumboCraps gained a majority in Congress, and they even had enough votes to tie up several judicial nominations BEFORE they gained a majority.
You know the self-same people who blocked FM/FM regulation. The same ones who are all the in the top for money personally RECEIVED from FM.FM to do JUST that!
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07/top-senate-recipients-of-fanni.html
How about the FACT that both former FM/FM CEOs were on the Obama campaign team – you know, AFTER they were dismissed in disgrace from FM/FM?
Keep thumping, the only ones you fool are yourselves, you pathetic twits.
PJ Emeritus on March 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM
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