Heartache: Palin appoints former Planned Parenthood board member to Supreme Court

posted at 1:31 pm on March 6, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Yeah, but.  Sarah Palin did appoint Morgan Christen to the Supreme Court, but she didn’t have many other options, either.  The Alaska Daily News gives a straightforward account:

Palin announced the appointment of Anchorage Superior Court Judge Morgan Christen this week.

Christen was one of two judges recommended for the post by the Alaska Judicial Council.

She will be the second woman to serve on the state’s high court. Gov. Tony Knowles appointed current Chief Justice Dana Fabe in 1996.

A similar issue arose with Rudy Giuliani during the campaign.  Giuliani, who is admittedly pro-choice anyway, came under fire for the judges he appointed as Mayor, some of whom did not share his stated philosophy of judicial “restraint”.  Giuliani had to explain that the process in New York City is different than that in Washington DC; the executive gets a list of candidates from an independent body and has to choose one of those nominated for an open post.

In Alaska, Palin has to follow the same kind of process, as Peter Andrew explains, via Legal Newsline:

Palin has a month and a half to choose the next member of Alaska’s State Supreme Court.  The problem is the two choices she has to pick from are justices who don’t align with her conservative views.  Alaska’s judges are selected using the Missouri Plan, which combines election and appointment in choosing the judge. The Alaska Judicial Council selects the nominees from which the governor can then make an appointment.  A total of six judges applied, but only two were elected by the Judicial Council, Eric Smith, considered very liberal, and Morgan Christen, who is viewed as more of a moderate.

Creative Minority thinks that assessment is backwards:

And from what I understand, neither option was great but of the two, it would appear that Palin may have picked the more liberal of the two, at least according to Alaska Family Council’s Jim Minnery. Minnery wrote Palin in support of the other candidate, Judge Eric Smith saying Smith was “more conservative” and that Christen would be “another activist on the Court.”

This would not seem to be good news for those who love Sarah. There’s one thing conservatives take seriously – and that’s judges.

And the ADN explains that Palin has issues with both:

Aides to the governor wouldn’t answer questions about specific concerns that might have prompted the governor’s request. However, both Christen and Smith have been involved in organizations that might give Palin pause.

Christen’s application included her membership in several charitable groups, including some from her past, but did not mention that she was on the board of Planned Parenthood in the mid-1990s. The organization, which didn’t provide abortions in Alaska until 2003, is now on the opposite side of a Palin-supported bill to require girls under 17 to get parental consent for an abortion.

Back in the 1980s, Smith was executive director of the public interest environmental law firm, Trustees for Alaska. The group currently is on the opposite side of Palin over the listing of Cook Inlet beluga whales as endangered.

Which was worse, Christen or Smith?  It sounds like Palin didn’t have much of a choice in any case.  She could have pushed back by refusing to appoint either, but her predecessor tried that and got roasted for it.  I’d have hoped that Palin would have at least attempted to press the AJC to give her a better range of nominees from which to choose.

This case demonstrates the problem with establishing independent boards to provide essentially political decisions.  The people of Alaska elected Palin to make these kinds of choices, and at least she has direct accountability to them.  The AJC has no accountability for making bad decisions at all.  Maybe Alaskans should consider a more direct system instead.

Update: Conservatives 4 Palin have more on this.  They’re complaining in the comments that they had it first, but I got the email from the other two sites and worked off of their sites.  Happy to link and we do our best to credit the sources, but we dance with the ones that brung us, fellas.

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JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM

so you have researched ACES, instate pipelines, and AGIA?

What “did you find out about her immediately after the ohio speech?”

Because uninformed folks “found out” that she: banned books, charged for rape kits, was a religious whacko and that her kid wasn’t hers

is that what you “found out”

… just keep doing what you are told, the democrats value your presence here

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

So is Alaska’s celebrity unwed mother ever going to go legit? ‘Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

These are the musings of a Christian? Any more petty gossip posing as fact? By the way, are you like Pink whose mental isolation from society, was figuratively referred to as “The Wall”?

littleguy on March 6, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Uh, gossip? I dont think so.

You know, littleguy, we are ALL a somewhat like Pink. We ALL have to hide behind our walls…and we do our best to break them down. That is what Waters was demonstrating in his masterpiece.

However, I am impressed with your “Pink” comment. Well done, sir.

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Sounds like you think everybody in Alaska is a moron.

You probably favor the Messiah selling Alaska back to Russia because you think America stole Alaska from her.

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

So is Alaska’s celebrity unwed mother ever going to go legit? ‘Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

spoken like a true moron.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Miss the convention speech and the VP debate? The tens of thousands of screaming people who showed up for her rallies?

Jim62sch on March 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM

The VP debate was painful to watch. The winks, the folksy banter – so cheesy! And the words coming out of her mouth were even worse – she may as well have been on the Democrat side.

Tens of thousands of people showed up for Obama rallies, too. Doesn’t make me think he’s competent to be President.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

However, I am impressed with your “Pink” comment. Well done, sir.

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

drop some more acid on that mind set of yours. maybe Mitt will win!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

For those who were asking, the C4P post has been updated with the membership of (and who appointed) the Judicial Council.

Jim62sch on March 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM

‘Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

If by that you mean “human” and “flawed”, then yes, most are.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

your act is weak

she was just fine in the debate

AND ONCE AGAIN SHE WAS MCCAIN’S VP CHOICE DOOFUS

good grief, are you allahpundit?

“Why didn’t she oppose TARP?”

The lack of knowledge in this nation is SCARY, perfectly ripe for an “elite ruling class”

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:38 PM

This doesn’t diminish her any. Now if there were a true conservative choice and she chose otherwise, I’d be more concerned.

jimmy2shoes on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

spoken like a true moron.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I’ll take that as a no. Keep it klassy, snowbillies!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

George HW Bush campaigned that Reagan’s tax policies were “voodoo economics”

when he became the VP for Reagan, he campaigned the Reagan’s policies were 100% correct

its called, ready for this?

BEING A RUNNING-MATE

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Yes, pregnant with her future husband’s child. What a scandal!!!

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM

When is the wedding?

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Most of us do have a pretty good sense of humor.

jimmy2shoes on March 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM

So, given the choice of appointing a judge that opposes her views on listing Cook Inlet beluga whales as endangered, or appointing a pro-baby murderer, Palin appointed a Planned Parenthood (aka: Government Sanctioned Serial Baby Killer Mill) board member to a judge position that may or may not have to rule on abortion baby murder issues someday versus the candidate that may or may not have to rule on beluga whale issues someday.

She chose serial killers of unborn human beings with no voice in their murder over… beluga whales.

Friggin’ brilliant.

I’ve never seen Palin as especially intelligent and capable, and I never quite understood the conservative’s ga-ga’ing over her from the get go. Now she has the conservative blogger cavalry charging in to do damage control for her after she chooses serial murder over beluga whales.

My political party is very nearly dead to me.

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:36 PM

I love the unparalleled objectivity and intellectual honesty displayed by you in assessing Sarah’s performances.

Frankly, I have never heard the assertion that Sarah progressively got worse during the campaign. Even the MSM said Sarah broke even in her debate.

And she played to tens of thousands of people wherever she went with crowds increasing as the campaign neared its end. Apparently the people who came out to watch her were not turned off by her progressively weak performance.

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

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blockquote>Yes, pregnant with her future husband’s child. What a scandal!!!

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM

When is the wedding?

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Um, I think it was back in 1988.

Jim62sch on March 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Ignorance is our most expensive commodity …

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM

I’ll take that as a no. Keep it klassy, snowbillies!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

snowbillies… wow. talk about someone who can’t seem to keep up with the times.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM

When is the wedding?

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

Almost 20 years ago.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM

She chose serial killers of unborn human beings with no voice in their murder over… beluga whales.

My political party is very nearly dead to me.

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Um, Mr. Concern Troll – the other choice was liberal, too. What’s better – a pro-choice moderate Independent, or a pro-choice eco-lunatic Democrat. You have to choose…she did.

Jim62sch on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

I’m fairly certain that Alaska will be dealing more with environmental laws than abortion laws.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

When is the wedding?

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 3:39 PM

you are a tad late. Todd decided you were the weakest link.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Now she has the conservative blogger cavalry charging in to do damage control for her after she chooses serial murder over beluga whales.

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Or maybe she didn’t look just to ideology and just picked the person best qualified for the job. I know that’s freaky deaky, but you never know.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

does the Alaska supreme court have the power to overturn Roe V. Wade?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

So is Alaska’s celebrity unwed mother ever going to go legit? ‘Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

What does that have to do with judge selection or job performance by the governor?

a capella on March 6, 2009 at 3:45 PM

What “did you find out about her immediately after the ohio speech?”

Because uninformed folks “found out” that she: banned books, charged for rape kits, was a religious whacko and that her kid wasn’t hers

is that what you “found out”
joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Nope, none of that.

She could give a speech, but she couldn’t answer questions knowledgeably or coherently. The VP debate was a biggie – she was like nails on a chalkboard, it was so cringe-worthy.

I also found it disturbing that she has put her personal ambitions above her kids. For all the talk about Todd being a stay-at-home dad, he isn’t. By his own admission, he is gone every other week to the oilfields, spends most of the summer on his fishing boat, and stays out until 4AM riding his snowmobile. So who is watching the kids while Sarah tends to her demanding full-time job?

I feel sorry for the kids, and I think that the lack of parental attention is why the teenaged kids are troubled (and no, I’m not just talking about Bristol’s pregnancy).

I also felt it was poor judgement to take a very young baby on the campaign trail. Babies need to be home in their own beds, not dragged crosscountry for three months.

So there you have it, just a few of my reasons for not being on the Palin bandwagon.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

does the Alaska supreme court have the power to overturn Roe V. Wade?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

And if Obama signs FOCA, the Alaskan legislature isn’t going to be making any more laws concerning any abortion policy.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

you are a tad late. Todd decided you were the weakest link.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Does Todd talk or is he like Teller???

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Christians’ is funny folk.

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Most of us do have a pretty good sense of humor.

jimmy2shoes on March 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Unlike Godless troll people.

littleguy on March 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Mitt lost because:

1)A$$hole Suckabee and McLame teamed up and tag-teamed him….throwing their votes to each other (for example, West Virginia) to keep out the top vote getter in the caucuses which was Romney.

2) Open primary system allowing dems and independents vote for McLame. Republicans had to nominate that, in many cases, McLame was not their choice…but the choice of moderate dems and independents.

3)Religious bigotry amongst a significant minority of republicans leveraged by the satanic Suckabee….particularly in Iowa and in the “bible belt”.

Bottom line, Dave,….yeah republicans are better than democrats but that doesnt mean that they arent stupid. Look who they just elected to be the RNC Chairman for hells sake….some joker who says he wants to bring hip hop to the party, attacks Rush Limbaugh, and hasnt replaced any of the people that he has fired yet.

Republicans get what they deserve. And these Palin fanatics remind me of the Huckabee fanatics and even a little bit like the Ron Paul fanatics…they are beyond reason.

Palin will NEVER EVER EVER be elected POTUS. The more you learn of her, the more you realize that she is attractive but not ready for prime time by a long shot. She plays the flute well though. Maybe she can read a newspaper or two.

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 3:24 PM

Wall, I agree w/ your numbered statements above. And yes, I also agree Steele has been a joke, I wanted Blackwell myself.

However, from there, your statements start to go downhill. I would call myself a Palin supporter, but I am not a fanatic. I am just hell bent on setting the record straight about her. She had some missteps, sure, but she is what this country needs right now, an authentic, trustworthy politician who believes in conservatism (and has never wavered from it like Mr Mittens).

Your last paragraph, be careful what you wish for… I’ll evaluate other candidates in 4 years and maker a judgment, but right now, whether people want to accept it or not she’s the front runner.

davek70 on March 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

SilverSat830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Unlike 2008, millions of us have resolved never to allow ‘Media Malparactice’ happen again. We will push back and give as good as Sarah gets. This time John McCain is not in the way to weaken our efforts. Yes, the cavalry will ride to the rescue every single time.

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Reagan did in 1967 sign an abortion bill but less than 20 years later, while in office, he wrote a book against abortion called “Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation”. Apparently during his presidency he was vocally pro-life.

Rose on March 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Rose on March 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

he signed a bill into a law for mentally disturbed women to have an abortion and he soon realized that it was being abused and he was devastated about it.

Point being, that if the same standard were applied to Reagan that are being applied to conservatives today … we will never have a conservative president again

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I also do not want a President (or VP) who has her unmarried daughter’s baby daddy living in her home. Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

There’s one thing conservatives take seriously – and that’s judges.

However, apparently not seriously enough to have held their nose while voting for McCain. Thanks a trillion, conservatives!

Kafir on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I also found it disturbing that she has put her personal ambitions above her kids. For all the talk about Todd being a stay-at-home dad, he isn’t. By his own admission, he is gone every other week to the oilfields, spends most of the summer on his fishing boat, and stays out until 4AM riding his snowmobile. So who is watching the kids while Sarah tends to her demanding full-time job?

I feel sorry for the kids, and I think that the lack of parental attention is why the teenaged kids are troubled (and no, I’m not just talking about Bristol’s pregnancy).

I also felt it was poor judgement to take a very young baby on the campaign trail. Babies need to be home in their own beds, not dragged crosscountry for three months.

So there you have it, just a few of my reasons for not being on the Palin bandwagon.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

thanks for revealing who your really are

a troll

have a nice day

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:46 PM

And apparently only Sarah was up for the job. It’s completely impossible for a man to raise his own children? Is that what you’re saying?

Well, if he was really doing his job, he’d keep her barefoot so she wouldn’t be able to leave the house.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I am just hell bent on setting the record straight about her. davek70 on March 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Than you, dave70.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I also do not want a President (or VP) who has her unmarried daughter’s baby daddy living in her home. Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

garbage statement from a garbage poster

trolls, trolls, trolls

a staple of hotair.com

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

thanks for revealing who your really are

a troll

have a nice day

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

How do these concerns make me a troll?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

However, apparently not seriously enough to have held their nose while voting for McCain. Thanks a trillion, conservatives!

Kafir on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

BS. McCain got plenty of conservative votes. It was the Independents, the kind who he supposedly was able to speak to, who went in droves to Obama.

Losers, stop whining that McCain lost and stop trying to blame on it anyone but McCain.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I also do not want a President (or VP) who has her unmarried daughter’s baby daddy living in her home. Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

I guess helping to support the family is not in your vocabulary.

Talk about someone who cares!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

It’s completely impossible for a man to raise his own children? Is that what you’re saying?
Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:53 PM

I would have no problem whatsoever if Todd Palin were a stay-at-home dad, but he isn’t.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

BTW Ed’s, daughter was prego and her, her BF and his new grandbaby are living with him.

Does that make him a bad person for letting his family live with him? You know who Ed is.. the one who wrote this blog!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I also do not want a President (or VP) who has her unmarried daughter’s baby daddy living in her home. Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

You can’t be serious…

I would rather that all parents were married, but I would also rather that fathers are involved in the lives of their children.

That is the real source of our moral decay.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Perhaps you should write in the Pope next time. He even wears white.

littleguy on March 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Does Todd talk or is he like Teller???

National Enquirer is not a news source, neither is the Daily Show

runner on March 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

How do these concerns make me a troll?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

JA… back read some.

Each and every person that disagrees with joey24007′s position on anything is a ‘troll’. He’s called not less than 6 people a ‘troll’ simply for expressing an objective viewpoint not lock-step with his own.

Note the link in his name too… conservatives4palin.com

So don’t sweat it.

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Naa he is just pointing out the people who are mis-informed. Like yourself!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:54 PM

your holier than thou attitude is troubling

do you know the Palins personally?

do you know the role of sisters and grandparents in their family?

your statement about participating in a one week race really show how dumb you are

you have no business commenting on her family, for all we know you could be living on welfare

Palin has never ever ever ever ever ever commented on an other family and has never ever ever ever ever campaigned that she was better than anybody else

you are a troll

and a bad one

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Now she has the conservative blogger cavalry charging in to do damage control…

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:41 PM

She didn’t hire us. We rallied to her. And I’m proud to be a foot soldier.

ramrocks on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Strategically, for the long run both in Alaska and nationally, this is a great political move.

Because if Palin’s a fire-breathing Xtian-ist, as the Left & the MSM would have it, then there’s no way she could make an appointment like this.

Politically, the play here is to redefine Palin, not so much as a moderate, but as someone with the ability to demonstrate independence from the GOP base.

When you’ve got people claiming that your ability to excite and play to the base makes your rallies look like scenes from Triumph of the Will, there’s a compelling argument that demonstrating (some) independence is a good thing.

She’ll get tagged a bit for this by social conservatives. I think, in part, that is the point.

Substantively, I disagree with the appointment, and think that it possibly endangers the parental notification legislation she’s backing.

However, I don’t think this, in any serious way, brings her pro-life credentials into question. She’s for real and has proven it several times over. Plus, the state-focused abortion legislation is a side-show as long as R v W still reigns.

Looks like Sister Sarah’s getting ready for the 2012 rodeo.

Robert_Paulson on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Barefoot and pregnant making a comeback among the followers of the Messiah. Be fruitful and multiply and produce your progeny to further the agenda of the Messiah.

Sarah is evil because she refuses to be a housewife. Wow! Feminists go back in the closet and at night only live to please your husbands. Hail Obama! My child is yours.

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 3:57 PM

sorry but you are an idiot

as your post about the judicial nominees shows

a “useful idiot” for the left in this country

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that I also do not want a President (or VP) who has her unmarried daughter’s baby daddy living in her home. Isn’t our society in enough of a moral decline without political leaders setting examples like this?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Bonus: Levi’s mom can come over every sunday afternoon and cook up some meth. Ahh, love those family gatherings!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

I would rather that all parents were married, but I would also rather that fathers are involved in the lives of their children.

That is the real source of our moral decay.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Babies need stable, married parents. To give them any less than that is wrong.

Do you really think Bristol and Levi are going to be a stable married couple throughout that baby’s entire childhood? I would like to hope so, but I fear not.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Almost 20 years ago.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 3:43 PM

My apologies. I thought you were talking about Bristol.

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Bonus: Levi’s mom can come over every sunday afternoon and cook up some meth. Ahh, love those family gatherings!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Dan Fagan is that you?

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Babies need stable, married parents. To give them any less than that is wrong.

Do you really think Bristol and Levi are going to be a stable married couple throughout that baby’s entire childhood? I would like to hope so, but I fear not.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

Wow and people such as yourself were the ones who bothered Levi to the point of quitting his job to take CARE of that new Baby.

God, you are dumb!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

cook up some meth. Ahh, love those family gatherings!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM

meth reminds you of your family’s gatherings ? do tell !

runner on March 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

The day a Palin thread doesn’t reach 300 is the day the terrorists have won. Come on Trolls!

portlandon on March 6, 2009 at 4:02 PM

Babies need stable, married parents. To give them any less than that is wrong.

Do you really think Bristol and Levi are going to be a stable married couple throughout that baby’s entire childhood? I would like to hope so, but I fear not.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

is Ed a bad parent too?

going by your standards?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Nancy Reagan was pregnant when she and Ron got married. Shameless hussy.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

is Ed a bad parent too?

going by your standards?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

in Wall’s and JA eyes.. everyone is bad, but them.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Babies need stable, married parents. To give them any less than that is wrong.

Do you really think Bristol and Levi are going to be a stable married couple throughout that baby’s entire childhood? I would like to hope so, but I fear not.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

So, only people who have celebrated a 25th wedding anniversary should reproduce? How long into a marriage should one wait to reproduce before are sure you are stable?

Levi and Bristol have a tough road ahead but you kind of seem to be rooting for their failure.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

As long as uptight 19th century “women should be barefoot and pregnant” infest the GOP, I don’t think Palin is going to win the nomination. These people do exist and they really do believe their stupid views.

Speedwagon82 on March 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Naa he is just pointing out the people who are mis-informed. Like yourself!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 3:58 PM

How can I be ‘misinformed’ if the information I am relying on is at the top of this page? It’s the same information you and everyone else has received.

I’ll take ‘eco-fanatic’ over serial baby killer any day. If you’re all for pro baby murdering judges, so be it.

Palin seems to be a fine outdoorsy kind of woman whom is also probably a very nice person, so long as you don’t cross her, or divorce her sister, that is. She is not exceptionally bright and I, for one, would prefer to see someone else at the head of the pack for conservatives. Nor will she ever be forgiven for selecting a baby murderer over a beluga whale lover. The intimation blatant excuse that she had ‘little choice’ choosing an unborn-baby-serial-killer over an environmentalist is absurd and anyone whom endorses and appoints a pro baby murderer is a reprehensible person in politics. Period.

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Nancy Reagan was pregnant when she and Ron got married. Shameless hussy.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Do you really want to go there?

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

is Ed a bad parent too?

going by your standards?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:04 PM

Don’t know a thing about Ed, so can’t answer this question.

I’m a mom and I know what kids need. They need lots of parental attention, and I don’t see how that can be happening with the Palin family, considering Todd and Sarah’s schedules.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Palin said repeatedly during the campaign that she doesn’t judge others. So, in fact, she’s not hypocritical at all. You, however, are disingenuous and foolish. Christians don’t live their lives with an absence of sin. They are just forgiven for them. Christianity is not about being perfect, it’s about being forgiven. Christianity is about mercy and love, not judgment. People like you have no understanding of Christianity, and therefore no understanding of social conservatives, and that’s a shame because they’re important to our country and to the conservative movement. And I respect them, their efforts, and their opinions.

You have shown yourself to be hypocritical (for attacking Palin for things that she’s not done. i.e. judging others) disingenuous, poorly informed, spiteful, disrespectful and foolish.

meltenn on March 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

I would have no problem whatsoever if Todd Palin were a stay-at-home dad, but he isn’t.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

And yet you’re criticizing Sarah, not her husband.

My apologies. I thought you were talking about Bristol.

SnarkVader on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

I know. It’s alright.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

Levi and Bristol have a tough road ahead but you kind of seem to be rooting for their failure.

myrenovations on March 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM

Not rooting for their failure at all, just facing the reality of the situation and feeling bad that the baby will most likely grow up in a broken home.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

You know how to tell a Palin fanatic from a a Palin supporter.

A Palin supporter will argue why their candidate is the best choice…like that Dave dude.

A Palin fanatic will simply respond to people who make valid arguments about Sarah Palin by calling them “trolls”.

To a Palin fanatic, a person who doesnt think Sarah Palin is GREEEEEAAAAAT = A troll.

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

joey24007, thankyou for clearing that up about Reagan’s vote. I was responding to something that firepilot said. I voted for Reagan twice and I voted for him because he was socially conservative. It was a part of his candidacy. There were many like me who voted for him for that reason.

Rose on March 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Actually I hear about more of it via the fact I AM A FREAKING ALASKAN RESIDENT! I heard about this a couple days ago and knew it wasn’t going to be pretty… but I would rather have Christian then the “other” one who is ten times worse.

I am calling you misinformed, but hey… not everyone is your kind of special. Right!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

And yet you’re criticizing Sarah, not her husband.
Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

You bet I am. Shouldn’t it be a priority for her to make sure her kids have the parental attention that they need, whether it’s from her or Todd?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

no, I said you are a hypocritical elitist christian and more or less stupid. If you want to call yourself a troll, go right on a head.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

And yes, I am also criticizing Todd Palin equally as much as I am Sarah.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

What was the original topic of this thread again? I’m lost.

davek70 on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

And yes, I am also criticizing Todd Palin equally as much as I am Sarah.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Hmm so who is watching your kids as you sit on the computer?

Your wife? Or does she have a job too?

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:13 PM

To a Palin fanatic, a person who doesnt think Sarah Palin is GREEEEEAAAAAT = A troll.

The Wall on March 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Touchy. You are no troll The Wall. I’ve seen your other posts. I do believe you are a conservative. It’s just that you are just a sexist bigot who has this unhealthy fixation on bashing Sarah Palin. Seek Help.

portlandon on March 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM

So Sarah is to blame for Bristol getting pregnant and Sarah neglects her children.

So on that basis the only women who should run for office are lesbians or nuns.

technopeasant on March 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM

I would have no problem whatsoever if Todd Palin were a stay-at-home dad, but he isn’t.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Also, this is inconsistent. You claim to feel this way yet have a problem with Tripp’s dad living with him.

Do you really think Bristol and Levi are going to be a stable married couple throughout that baby’s entire childhood? I would like to hope so, but I fear not.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:01 PM

What, because having sex before you sign a sheet of paper is somehow indicative of what kind of parent you’re going to be? Do you really believe this?

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 4:14 PM

I’m a mom and I know what kids need. They need lots of parental attention, and I don’t see how that can be happening with the Palin family, considering Todd and Sarah’s schedules.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:07 PM

no no

you are terrible mother

and even though I don’t know you personally, I am free to say it

why are you posting on hotair? Kids have no homework today?

why are you ignoring your children?

terrible

just terrible

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

I do believe you are a conservative. It’s just that you are just a sexist bigot

Stop the presses! A conservative that is also a sexist bigot??? No way!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

Stop the presses! A conservative that is also a sexist bigot??? No way!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

were you dropped on your head as a infant? I am assuming you were dropped multiple times.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

You have shown yourself to be hypocritical (for attacking Palin for things that she’s not done. i.e. judging others) disingenuous, poorly informed, spiteful, disrespectful and foolish.

meltenn on March 6, 2009 at 4:08 PM

LOL for some reason, I don’t think those are St. Paul’s fruits of the spirit.

I’m sure “The Wall” can correct my theological confusion though.

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funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Pro Choice or Pro Life should not be a litmus test. Far too many other issues that have importance to everyone are at stake and a single issue should not stop competent people from serving. Like it or not Pro Choice is the law. The choice of “pro” that is your preference should not make you a radical activist that is consumed with this one issue. If you are that consumed you probably can’t deal with other issues either. People who want to get a law changed should keep trying but they will never eliminate the opposition unless one answer is so overwhelming clear that others will accept the facts and logic of that position with very little persuasion. I am in no why arguing that values of right and wrong are relative. But abortion is not the only issue that has much emotion of belief attached to it that wants only one side to exist. It will never be that simply but definitely some ways are better than others

rsl775 on March 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

were you dropped on your head as a infant? I am assuming you were dropped multiple times.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Wow, more wilderness humor! Got any that start out – “A moose walks into a bar”???

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

no no

you are terrible mother

and even though I don’t know you personally, I am free to say it

why are you posting on hotair? Kids have no homework today?

why are you ignoring your children?

terrible

just terrible

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

First I’m a troll, then I’m a pothead, now I’m a terrible mom. Those are well-thought-out arguments, guys. Why bother using facts when there are personal attacks to be made?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

I am calling you misinformed, but hey… not everyone is your kind of special. Right!

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:10 PM

So, what you’re saying is that the stuff you ‘heard about a couple days ago’ is far and away different from the thread opening post by Ed?

Please… do tell. With your ‘couple days’ foreknowledge, What do you know about this appointment of a planned parenthood baby murderer board member over the beluga whale enthusiast, that Ed has not included here, that makes a difference and justifies Palin’s abhorent pick for a judge?

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

First I’m a troll, then I’m a pothead, now I’m a terrible mom. Those are well-thought-out arguments, guys. Why bother using facts when there are personal attacks to be made?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

you have yet to post any facts

tell us about ACES and AGIA …

instead of wondering if Palin is a bad parent

and how do you have the time to post on hotair.com

at least Palin is a governor of a state, you are just a jealous debbie schlussel clone

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Pro Choice or Pro Life should not be a litmus test.

Agreed. Looking like an absolute fool while interviewed by Katie Freaking Couric is, though.

It’s all under the umbrella of job creation!!

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM

no no

you are terrible mother

and even though I don’t know you personally, I am free to say it

why are you posting on hotair? Kids have no homework today?

why are you ignoring your children?

terrible

just terrible

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM

A f’n MEN

I’m a mother too, and a military wife who hasn’t ever gotten to live in the same town as family like Sarah Palin does. I spend plenty of time on my computer, and if I had a “normal” life with parents, siblings, and lifelong friends as a support network, I could also work outside the home.

Actually, I know a fair number of military wives who do work outside the home and who still do a damn fine job of parenting their kids.

How about those women in the military?

Shameless hussy child abusers, I suppose.

funky chicken on March 6, 2009 at 4:20 PM

SilverStar830 on March 6, 2009 at 4:19 PM

there is nothing to prove that the environmentalist nutjob would not side with the abortion crowd …

and once again

does the AK Supreme Court have the power to overturn Roe v. Wade?

joey24007 on March 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM

And yes, I am also criticizing Todd Palin equally as much as I am Sarah.

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM

No, you’re not. That was my whole point.

As an aside, I grew up with two working parents. I went to preschool earlier than most and stayed in Daycare for that very reason. My parents were both very much involved in my education and homework and church and everything else you need parents for.

Shockingly enough, my brother and I have turned out just fine. No out of marriage births, unlike some of our friends with stay-at-home moms, or anything significant that would have embarrassed either parent. If anything, we were both role models in church. My mother’s even on staff there now.

I agree that it’s ideal for one parent to stay at home to raise the child(ren), but ideal doesn’t mean necessary.

If your husband were to die, leaving you a widow with no other means to support yourself aside from working, you’d find a way to make it work and thank God that he’s still merciful.

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Wow, more wilderness humor! Got any that start out – “A moose walks into a bar”???

capitulus on March 6, 2009 at 4:17 PM

A moose walks into a bar:

Sits down and orders a bloody mary as the tourist next to it gawks at the moose.

The tourist asks the Moose, “Why the long face?”

The Moose gets up, WWF slams the tourist to the floor and then does a Inquit stomping dance on the tourist head till the tourist dies. The crowd cheered. And all was peaceful again in the bar.

The bartender goes and refills the bloody mary the moose downed after the festive dance and the bartender asks why.

The Moose Responds.. “The tourist supports PITA”.

upinak on March 6, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Why bother using facts when there are personal attacks to be made?

JA on March 6, 2009 at 4:18 PM

That’s exactly what you’re doing with Palin. Why do you expect to be treated better than you treat others?

Esthier on March 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM

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