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By: Obama and How To Take Over A Country With Nationalized Health Care |

Obama and How To Take Over A Country With Nationalized Health Care | — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:26:54 +0000

[...] person will fall for this sales technique and it’s the same one that Obama is trying to sell National Health Care to America. Remember these statements about the Stimulus Plan: Congress must act without delay (Feb 4 DJIA [...]

By: OneConservative

OneConservative — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:43:57 +0000

One thing is very certain – with the healthcare bill we will get we will all be forced to stop eating so as not to gain weight, stop drinking so as not to get into an accident and then get hospitalized, and stop smoking because the price of a pack will be about $15 by 2010 and people will finally realize it is a also injurious to your pocket.

So, in one way we will all be HEALTHY!!

Who will need healthcare then?

By: Dr. ZhivBlago

Dr. ZhivBlago — Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:13:17 +0000

Each household should pay a fee per month for their local health care system whether they’re sick or not.

The numbers I come up with = about $150 a month (my area) taking into account industry standards for different M.D. specialties/longevity, paying nurses and other workers, etc. Can’t pay that 6-7 figure salary to a director? Too bad. Get somebody to do it for less. I’m sure there are those hungry enough to ‘accept’ a mere 80 K a year or so.

Police departments, schools, fire departments, city dog catchers, etc. aren’t expected to earn a profit so why should the health care industry? Health care should be part of our infrastructure, not private industry, though like private schools that option should be available.

By: kanda

kanda — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:48:30 +0000

Mark Garnett on March 6, 2009 at 8:13 AM

I’m not sure what part of this you dont understand

We are stupid for even thinking about national healthcare. If we get that we might as well put a huge funnel from the national treasury to the healthcare industry. What a rip off it will be. The losses from the collapse of the economy will pale by comparison.

kanda on March 6, 2009 at 6:57 AM

What I can tell you is the present system is broken. We can fix if or lose it. It will not remain as is. I pointed out some of the reasons others want obamacare. They are real and they are valid. If we ignore the problems we will lose a good thing. I am a devils advocate not an advocate. Can the present system be fixed? I don’t know but I’m willing to attempt it. Please think before you fire your scattergun. We are on the same side on this issue but coming from different approaches. I find that many here are quick to assume but never comprehend the real issues. This is why we republicans are out of power.

No, that’s what personal responsibility is for.

Insurance exists to spread the risk around. I see no problem with charging more (not denying) healthcare for those who engage in a risky lifestyle. For those of us who do try to take care of ourselves, we shouldn’t have to subsidize your laziness to change.

dominigan on March 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM

You may feel that way now but real life says different. I hope you or a loved one never gets a serious illness. You will find that your healthcare company will not renew you. Your employer will charge you an arm and a leg to stay in their plan if you have one. I’d hate to see you become one of the lazy irresponsible people you talk about who actually use the coverage rather than just pay the premium. You make assumptions and lump people together in a bad light for what reason? Do you feel powerful? I just do not understand how people like you can be so naive about what really happens and then call someone else the problem. Wham one day it happens to them and its too late.

I hope you sleep good at night. Don’t expect any sympathy from most here if, god forbid, a serious health issue happens to you. As an invester all I care about is my investment pays off. Getting rid of you increases my chance of my investment paying off. I’m happy with that. Are you?

By: PatriotPete

PatriotPete — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:30:40 +0000

Is it my imagination or does everyone in the Nobama administration looked constipated? The Idiot in Chief has pummelled every industry now. This clueless mouthbreather doesn’t pay attention to the fluctuations in the market because if he did, then he wouldn’t be able to afford his Stalinist takeover of retirement accounts…get the DOW below 5000 then move in.

‘Those who hammer their guns into plows
will plow for those who do not.’

~ Thomas Jefferson

Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

By: dominigan

dominigan — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:57:10 +0000

Now the insurance companies don’t want to pay if you are too fat, you smoke, your occupation is hazardous. AND…ta da if you have health problems. Is’nt that what health insurance is for?.

kanda on March 6, 2009 at 7:05 AM

No, that’s what personal responsibility is for.

Insurance exists to spread the risk around. I see no problem with charging more (not denying) healthcare for those who engage in a risky lifestyle. For those of us who do try to take care of ourselves, we shouldn’t have to subsidize your laziness to change.

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:37:10 +0000

Health insurance makes big profits
kanda on March 6, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Where did you get this stupid notion?

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:35:19 +0000

Finally.

getalife on March 5, 2009 at 9:03 PM

What’s the matter? Not covered under your mom’s plan anymore?

By: MarkTheGreat

MarkTheGreat — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:33:37 +0000

You may not like the results of democracy —
paul006 on March 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

The idea that a slim majority can vote to take away the liberty, property, and even life, of the minority is this century’s greatest evil.

By: Mark Garnett

Mark Garnett — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:13:03 +0000

kanda on March 6, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Do you really think the Obama-Care will solve the issues you mention? You think the “wait” is long now… Wait until you have to call some DC tool, ask for an appointment, wait WEEKS to see a “Doctor” that you do not know and did not choose, then drive to God knows where to “wait” for him to call up the DC tool, ask if he can give you an Asprin, wait for the same DC tool to allow a test or proceedure, then go back in line to get that done…

Please look at Canada, or Britian or ANYWHERE universal health care is offered… It is WORSE than a failure, heck it’s WORSE then the Messiah’s first five weeks in office!

This will KILL many, many Americans, mainly the old… THEY WILL BE RATIONED CARE, it’s happening in Europe NOW! Rationing IS a fact, Candaians FLOCK to the US for health care… Wonder why???

If this takes effect, America is doomed to be a third world country in under a decade… Take that to the “Nationalized” bank…

By: kanda

kanda — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:05:52 +0000

When I was a kid a doctor visit was 3 bucks and the doctor would come to the house. Now with health insurance a doctor vist costs $200 and you go to the doctors office to a room called the waiting room. At least that room is named correctly. Health insurance makes big profits and screws everyone from the doctor to the patient. Every year they raise insurance premiums to increase profits. Greed is what it has become. Now the insurance companies don’t want to pay if you are too fat, you smoke, your occupation is hazardous. AND…ta da if you have health problems. Is’nt that what health insurance is for?.

By: kanda

kanda — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:57:57 +0000

Health care is not providing anything to the poor for free. Healthcare is charging the rest of us through the nose to pay for healthcare they provide the poor. Ask yourself this. Why does the healthcare industry charge one price if you don’t have healthcare then triple the charge if you do? The healthcare industry is ripping us off. We are stupid for even thinking about national healthcare. If we get that we might as well put a huge funnel from the national treasury to the healthcare industry. What a rip off it will be. The losses from the collapse of the economy will pale by comparison.

By: journeyintothewhirlwind

journeyintothewhirlwind — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:57:56 +0000

I really don’t want Nationalized Health Care esp if Michelle is involved. This is from American Thinker and maybe Gupta found out about it and combined with the “outsourcing” comment made about Jindal he had second thoughts about helping this administration and Democrats in general.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/michelle_obamas_patientdumping_1.html.

By: GunRunner

GunRunner — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:20:21 +0000

We already have a bad doctor shortage here in Florida. Who’s gonna want to go to 8 years of med school to become a gov’t doctor? Maybe by then, people won’t be given a choice.

ornery_independent on March 5, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Dems will just increase the speed that Somalia and Mexican Doctors can be licensed. They will have to teach them to use a clean needle once in a while, but other than that…

By: Dhuka

Dhuka — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:51:20 +0000

We need a new Proctology Czar to take care of all these arseholes.

Their motto is: So that no one shall suffer, everyone WILL suffer.

By: muggedbyreality

muggedbyreality — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:50:14 +0000

BacaDog on March 5, 2009 at 6:33 PM

+1
LOL!

By: Alden Pyle

Alden Pyle — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:43:51 +0000

Brakes please,..BRAKES!

Lets forget about carbon credits and nationalized health care and concentrate on this friggin economy, ok, we are in the middle of a freakin mindblowing recession we can’t afford these other distractions.

By: boomer

boomer — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:28:54 +0000

OneConservative on March 5, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Well, they didn’t keep you on life support long. It must have been too expensive.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:14:04 +0000

50% of the doctors will quit. All you will have is poorly trained techs that don’t give a crap because they will be making just over minimum wage. Yes the brave new world. I have to get blood tests every quarter and the quality of people is going down & down. I feel like I am going to the post office. And Obama thinks his ideas are better?

I may just start shooting up heroin.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:10:17 +0000

That will be the point of government run euthanasia.

It was people!! Obamacare killed the people.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:09:21 +0000

We are all going to Die!!!

Yes that is true. It is how you live and what you do to defeat Obama & the democraps is all that matters right now.

By: getalife

getalife — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:03:41 +0000

Finally.

By: OneConservative

OneConservative — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:00:51 +0000

Hey Boomer, I am writing this from heaven. Even God is perplexed.

What to do my friend?

By: Rae

Rae — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:38:18 +0000

Denninger basically says today that it doesn't matter what they want. It's over.

By: AW1 Tim

AW1 Tim — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:36:04 +0000

The American people have an elected president, and a Congress whose members they chose in free and fair elections.
paul006 on March 5, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Are you sure about that? I firmly believe that the last election was as rigged and illegal as anything from the old Soviet union. The fix was in, and we are in the middle of a leftist coup. It has the verneer of legality, and the press has chosen sides. But legal? I don’t think so.

This government is illegitimate, and deserves to be removed from power, it’s policies and laws rolled back, and those in charge brought to a speedy trial.

Barack Obama is no more a legitimate president than Jefferson Davis. The former, and his supporters, deserve no less reaction from the Republicans than the latter.