Comments on: The obligatory “Rush challenges Obama to a debate” post http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:36:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Rush Chronicles | Cold Fury http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1957292 The Rush Chronicles | Cold Fury Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:27:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1957292 [...] Allahpundit: Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s bringing the enormous power of the presidency to bear on a poor, defenseless Joe Public, but Limbaugh’s anything but defenseless (as today’s debate challenge proves) and considerably more powerful, I think we’d all agree, than the average congressman who would be considered fair game as a public official. If the White House had picked him out of a phone book or was rooting around in his trash, that’d be an egregious breach of privacy, but he’s one of the most powerful people in American media, with a following in the millions, and they haven’t done anything untoward (yet?). In fact, strictly speaking, they’re not “going after” him at all. They’re going after the GOP, to tar them by association with Rush and they’re willing to inflate his influence to do so. It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric. What harm has Rush suffered? His stature’s never been greater, as he himself acknowledges right here. [...] [...] Allahpundit: Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s bringing the enormous power of the presidency to bear on a poor, defenseless Joe Public, but Limbaugh’s anything but defenseless (as today’s debate challenge proves) and considerably more powerful, I think we’d all agree, than the average congressman who would be considered fair game as a public official. If the White House had picked him out of a phone book or was rooting around in his trash, that’d be an egregious breach of privacy, but he’s one of the most powerful people in American media, with a following in the millions, and they haven’t done anything untoward (yet?). In fact, strictly speaking, they’re not “going after” him at all. They’re going after the GOP, to tar them by association with Rush and they’re willing to inflate his influence to do so. It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric. What harm has Rush suffered? His stature’s never been greater, as he himself acknowledges right here. [...]

]]> By: adamsmith http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1951586 adamsmith Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:31:05 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1951586 Ain't gonna happen. No teleprompter with Soros telling this tool what to say, ain't gonna happen. I love when the liberal press say Obama's the most intelligent guy to ever be President. As far as I know all this tool's academic records are sealed. What were his SAT scores? What were his papers about? What was his graduating GPA? He plays a minoity cartoon President. When I was calling him an empty suit before the election, I honestly didn't know how empty it really was. I graduated with a 2.01 from a state university, I'll debate "The One" anytime, anyplace. If I smoke him, doesn't that make me smarter than all Presidents? Obama is a bad joke. Stopped being funny on election day... Ain’t gonna happen. No teleprompter with Soros telling this tool what to say, ain’t gonna happen. I love when the liberal press say Obama’s the most intelligent guy to ever be President. As far as I know all this tool’s academic records are sealed. What were his SAT scores? What were his papers about? What was his graduating GPA? He plays a minoity cartoon President. When I was calling him an empty suit before the election, I honestly didn’t know how empty it really was. I graduated with a 2.01 from a state university, I’ll debate “The One” anytime, anyplace. If I smoke him, doesn’t that make me smarter than all Presidents? Obama is a bad joke. Stopped being funny on election day…

]]> By: Hawthorne http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1951540 Hawthorne Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:54:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1951540 <blockquote> Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed? Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM </blockquote> All of us have a right to hammer Obama any time we wish. That is guaranteed by our freedom of speech. Rush has this right as much as any of us. Where there is a difference, is that Rush is not government official. That changes all the rules. Obama can say whatever he wants privately or in casual conversation as a private citizen. He just cannot use the bully pulpit like a bully against an individual. It is not strictly illegal, but it is terribly unethical. Obama needs to learn that EVERYTHING he says is taken as government policy. There is no such thing as the President speaking as a private citizen when they are acting in their official capacity.

Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed?

Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM

All of us have a right to hammer Obama any time we wish. That is guaranteed by our freedom of speech. Rush has this right as much as any of us. Where there is a difference, is that Rush is not government official. That changes all the rules. Obama can say whatever he wants privately or in casual conversation as a private citizen. He just cannot use the bully pulpit like a bully against an individual. It is not strictly illegal, but it is terribly unethical. Obama needs to learn that EVERYTHING he says is taken as government policy. There is no such thing as the President speaking as a private citizen when they are acting in their official capacity.

]]> By: Hawthorne http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1951530 Hawthorne Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:42:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1951530 <blockquote> I’ve been arguing about this all day with commenters and still haven’t gotten a good answer. Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s bringing the enormous power of the presidency to bear on a poor, defenseless Joe Public, but Limbaugh’s anything but defenseless (as today’s debate challenge proves) and considerably more powerful, I think we’d all agree, than the average congressman who would be considered fair game as a public official. If the White House had picked him out of a phone book or was rooting around in his trash, that’d be an egregious breach of privacy, but he’s one of the most powerful people in American media, with a following in the millions, and they haven’t done anything untoward (yet?). In fact, strictly speaking, they’re not “going after” him at all. They’re going after the GOP, to tar them by association with Rush and they’re willing to inflate his influence to do so. It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric. What harm has Rush suffered? His stature’s never been greater, as he himself acknowledges right here.</blockquote> OK, I do not have the time to read all of this thread, so if I am repeating a previous argument I am sorry. But here is why this is horrible AP. The Constitution of the United States was written with an understand about abuse of power. One of the things that was specifically addressed was the use of government power against an individual without due process. Our Constitution outlaws Bills of Attainder for this specific reason. If you are not aware, a Bill of Attainder is a legislative act that is used to single out an individual or group of people for punishment without a trial. This was placed in the Constitution as a way to ensure that the legislative branch did not exercise functions that are reserved for the judiciary. The same is true of the Executive branch but it is not codified in the Constitution explicitly. It has been recognized from the time of George Washington that it is not proper for the executive branch to single out an individual for chastisement and that all members of the Executive from the President down should always refer judgment to the judiciary and allow due process to run its course. What the executive branch is doing to Rush in some ways is worse. They are using their power and prestige to attack an individual American. It sets a precedent that it is fine for the government to do so. While this initial foray may sound benign to you, once you start down this path it leads to places that none of us want our government to go. It opens the door to oppressive use of the IRS, FBI, ATF, EPA, and many other agencies controlled by the executive branch. Even if the actions by Obama and the executive are not overtly using agencies to intimidate or punish Rush, the effort is intimidation nevertheless. You don't have to bash in the windshield of somebodies car to intimidate. It is just as effective to stare them in the eyes and start cracking your knuckles, if you have enough strength to back it up. Nobody has more power to intimidate than the U.S. government, nobody. It is a horrible step in an entirely horrible direction.

I’ve been arguing about this all day with commenters and still haven’t gotten a good answer. Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s bringing the enormous power of the presidency to bear on a poor, defenseless Joe Public, but Limbaugh’s anything but defenseless (as today’s debate challenge proves) and considerably more powerful, I think we’d all agree, than the average congressman who would be considered fair game as a public official. If the White House had picked him out of a phone book or was rooting around in his trash, that’d be an egregious breach of privacy, but he’s one of the most powerful people in American media, with a following in the millions, and they haven’t done anything untoward (yet?). In fact, strictly speaking, they’re not “going after” him at all. They’re going after the GOP, to tar them by association with Rush and they’re willing to inflate his influence to do so. It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric. What harm has Rush suffered? His stature’s never been greater, as he himself acknowledges right here.

OK, I do not have the time to read all of this thread, so if I am repeating a previous argument I am sorry. But here is why this is horrible AP.

The Constitution of the United States was written with an understand about abuse of power. One of the things that was specifically addressed was the use of government power against an individual without due process. Our Constitution outlaws Bills of Attainder for this specific reason.

If you are not aware, a Bill of Attainder is a legislative act that is used to single out an individual or group of people for punishment without a trial. This was placed in the Constitution as a way to ensure that the legislative branch did not exercise functions that are reserved for the judiciary.

The same is true of the Executive branch but it is not codified in the Constitution explicitly. It has been recognized from the time of George Washington that it is not proper for the executive branch to single out an individual for chastisement and that all members of the Executive from the President down should always refer judgment to the judiciary and allow due process to run its course.

What the executive branch is doing to Rush in some ways is worse. They are using their power and prestige to attack an individual American. It sets a precedent that it is fine for the government to do so. While this initial foray may sound benign to you, once you start down this path it leads to places that none of us want our government to go. It opens the door to oppressive use of the IRS, FBI, ATF, EPA, and many other agencies controlled by the executive branch.

Even if the actions by Obama and the executive are not overtly using agencies to intimidate or punish Rush, the effort is intimidation nevertheless. You don’t have to bash in the windshield of somebodies car to intimidate. It is just as effective to stare them in the eyes and start cracking your knuckles, if you have enough strength to back it up. Nobody has more power to intimidate than the U.S. government, nobody. It is a horrible step in an entirely horrible direction.

]]> By: PburgJason http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950714 PburgJason Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:52:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950714 <<strong>blockquote>Didn’t the Bush administration issue a subpoena against Michael Moore for going to Cuba? Grow Fins on March 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM</strong> Refresh my memory, which talk show does Michael Moore host again? Also, is issuing a subpoena the same as making direct comments about someone? Yeah, I didn't think so either. I'm not saying none of the Presidents have done this stuff before, but I HIGHLY DOUBT they have. If this has happened before, it really changes nothing in my mind. This type of "shoot the messenger" stuff SHOULD be beneath a sitting POTUS. As for the criticism levied at Rush by one of our site hosts, AP, I can honestly say that I sometimes get very tired of it. I'm not trying to deny anyone the right to criticize anyone else that happens to disagree with them. It is rather curious though, that this type of backbiting was almost nonexistent on the left during the last election. Once they chose BHO, it seemed to me that they ALL got behind him. I just feel that there are too many that aren't willing to suck it up, and support someone they don't agree with completely. I know Rush is not running for anything, but this definitely applies to Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, or anyone else that gets to the forefront, yet is deemed "unworthy" by the cocktail party Conservatives. <blockquote>Didn’t the Bush administration issue a subpoena against Michael Moore for going to Cuba?

Grow Fins on March 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Refresh my memory, which talk show does Michael Moore host again? Also, is issuing a subpoena the same as making direct comments about someone? Yeah, I didn’t think so either.

I’m not saying none of the Presidents have done this stuff before, but I HIGHLY DOUBT they have. If this has happened before, it really changes nothing in my mind. This type of “shoot the messenger” stuff SHOULD be beneath a sitting POTUS.

As for the criticism levied at Rush by one of our site hosts, AP, I can honestly say that I sometimes get very tired of it. I’m not trying to deny anyone the right to criticize anyone else that happens to disagree with them. It is rather curious though, that this type of backbiting was almost nonexistent on the left during the last election. Once they chose BHO, it seemed to me that they ALL got behind him. I just feel that there are too many that aren’t willing to suck it up, and support someone they don’t agree with completely. I know Rush is not running for anything, but this definitely applies to Sarah Palin, Bobby Jindal, or anyone else that gets to the forefront, yet is deemed “unworthy” by the cocktail party Conservatives.

]]> By: johnnyU http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950576 johnnyU Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:15:04 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950576 Enemes list? Great. The Government has a list against its own citizens. crazy crazy crazy. Enemes list? Great. The Government has a list against its own citizens. crazy crazy crazy.

]]> By: Better that Patterico fails, I think http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950534 Better that Patterico fails, I think Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:58:07 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950534 [...] The problem is, Americans have short attention spans and don’t always do nuance well. Just by writing the title of this post the way I did, I’ll get an angry reaction from some — even though, if you read the post, I haven’t said anything particularly negative about Limbaugh. As Allahpundit says: [...] [...] The problem is, Americans have short attention spans and don’t always do nuance well. Just by writing the title of this post the way I did, I’ll get an angry reaction from some — even though, if you read the post, I haven’t said anything particularly negative about Limbaugh. As Allahpundit says: [...]

]]> By: 74SeventeenSeventySix http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950308 74SeventeenSeventySix Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:53:21 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950308 AP, perhaps you should read. <a href="http://spectator.org/archives/2009/02/18/obamas-enemies-list" rel="nofollow">Obama's Enemies List</a> AP, perhaps you should read.

Obama’s Enemies List

]]> By: Sweet_Thang http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950285 Sweet_Thang Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:48:01 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950285 <blockquote>I almost drove off the road when I heard this. Rush and friends should crank up the volume as much as possible. Perhaps we can shake this no-brain POS loose from the WH by Summer (or even April would be better). RalphyBoy on March 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM</blockquote> I agree with the Rush backers. The man is a true genius at what he does, and has been doing it better than anyone for years. I only wish I had more time to listen to him, but then again, I would rather be working. I remember when toolbama warned the Republicans against listening to El Rushbo, saying they wouldn't get anything done, then proceeded to enact the biggest pork-barrel legislation in US history, using 3 backstabbing RINO's to get the bill through. Rush didn't back down from that attack, saying the -0- "...was sprinting to the left" from the minute he took office, using the Stimulus Pkg to repay campaign favors. Please keep up the great work Rush, and mega-dittoes. You're a true patriot and a great American.

I almost drove off the road when I heard this. Rush and friends should crank up the volume as much as possible. Perhaps we can shake this no-brain POS loose from the WH by Summer (or even April would be better).

RalphyBoy on March 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM

I agree with the Rush backers. The man is a true genius at what he does, and has been doing it better than anyone for years. I only wish I had more time to listen to him, but then again, I would rather be working.

I remember when toolbama warned the Republicans against listening to El Rushbo, saying they wouldn’t get anything done, then proceeded to enact the biggest pork-barrel legislation in US history, using 3 backstabbing RINO’s to get the bill through.

Rush didn’t back down from that attack, saying the -0- “…was sprinting to the left” from the minute he took office, using the Stimulus Pkg to repay campaign favors.

Please keep up the great work Rush, and mega-dittoes. You’re a true patriot and a great American.

]]> By: JellyToast http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950125 JellyToast Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:05:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950125 Rush should put full page advertisements in major newspapers and run major TV spots across the country challenging him to a debate or to come on his show! that might be going a little overboard,,, but it would be the event of a century!! If anything,, it would show how much Obama does not want to debate. Rush should put full page advertisements in major newspapers and run major TV spots across the country challenging him to a debate or to come on his show! that might be going a little overboard,,, but it would be the event of a century!!
If anything,, it would show how much Obama does not want to debate.

]]> By: Fuquay Steve http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950099 Fuquay Steve Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:58:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950099 Hey Allah- Rush called you out today!!! He thanked Ed for his support, mentioned Hot Air and of course MM, but then said their are some wackos on the site. Hm..... Juicy but true. Hey Allah- Rush called you out today!!! He thanked Ed for his support, mentioned Hot Air and of course MM, but then said their are some wackos on the site. Hm….. Juicy but true.

]]> By: RalphyBoy http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1950054 RalphyBoy Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:45:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1950054 I almost drove off the road when I heard this. Rush and friends should crank up the volume as much as possible. Perhaps we can shake this no-brain POS loose from the WH by Summer (or even April would be better). I almost drove off the road when I heard this. Rush and friends should crank up the volume as much as possible. Perhaps we can shake this no-brain POS loose from the WH by Summer (or even April would be better).

]]> By: Speakup http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949928 Speakup Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:19:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949928 <blockquote> Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed? Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM</blockquote> You say that like its a bad thing, personally I think this Pres. deserves every speck of truth exposure he gets and if Rush is a thorn in every liberals side, I'm just going to laugh that much harder because they so very richly deserve that too.

Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed?

Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM

You say that like its a bad thing, personally I think this Pres. deserves every speck of truth exposure he gets and if Rush is a thorn in every liberals side, I’m just going to laugh that much harder because they so very richly deserve that too.

]]> By: True_King http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949673 True_King Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:31:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949673 Dude's and dudette's, Allah comes from the Frum school of "conservatism", they can't stand Rush, there is your explanation. Just leave it be. Is it right for a President to have an enemies list and target individuals with a complicit media? Of course not, but that's not going to change Allah's mind. It's a personal thing with him, just let it be. I'm not a big Rush fan, I used to be before I realized what a sycophant he was for President Bush, but I certainly don't want him targeted. Even though it's personal to a degree with me since I lost a lot of respect for him, I can still see that it's wrong for the government to target individuals and demonize them for political gain. Allah just considers it not to be wrong. Accept it guys. Now, if the office of the Presidency targeted him, then maybe his opinion would be different, but we'll never know, at least until they start to censor web content using hate speech laws. Dude’s and dudette’s, Allah comes from the Frum school of “conservatism”, they can’t stand Rush, there is your explanation. Just leave it be. Is it right for a President to have an enemies list and target individuals with a complicit media? Of course not, but that’s not going to change Allah’s mind. It’s a personal thing with him, just let it be.

I’m not a big Rush fan, I used to be before I realized what a sycophant he was for President Bush, but I certainly don’t want him targeted. Even though it’s personal to a degree with me since I lost a lot of respect for him, I can still see that it’s wrong for the government to target individuals and demonize them for political gain. Allah just considers it not to be wrong. Accept it guys.

Now, if the office of the Presidency targeted him, then maybe his opinion would be different, but we’ll never know, at least until they start to censor web content using hate speech laws.

]]> By: 74SeventeenSeventySix http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949470 74SeventeenSeventySix Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:53:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949470 <blockquote>Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed? Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM</blockquote> It is not just Rush! It is Hannity, Kramer, Joe the Plummer and etc. I am sure there are more. When is it going to stop? It is the job of the media to hammer the President, or any politician for that matter. The ONE and Gibbs can respond all they want to matters of policy. I have no problem with that. But, when have you ever witnessed an administration personally attack by name, anyone who disagrees with them. It is childish, ridiculous and not very presidential. It is obvious that the ONE is not capable of accepting criticism.

Right. But not just any private citizen. He hammers Obama every day for hours for millions of listeners, and then the White House turns around and says something as meager as “He’s the head of the Republican Party,” and suddenly a terrible line has been crossed?

Allahpundit on March 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM

It is not just Rush! It is Hannity, Kramer, Joe the Plummer and etc. I am sure there are more. When is it going to stop? It is the job of the media to hammer the President, or any politician for that matter.

The ONE and Gibbs can respond all they want to matters of policy. I have no problem with that. But, when have you ever witnessed an administration personally attack by name, anyone who disagrees with them. It is childish, ridiculous and not very presidential. It is obvious that the ONE is not capable of accepting criticism.

]]> By: ebrawer http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949460 ebrawer Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:51:41 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949460 Heh, I think Rush referred to Allahpundit as a weirdo today. Heh, I think Rush referred to Allahpundit as a weirdo today.

]]> By: Dr Evil http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949396 Dr Evil Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:36:20 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949396 http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/alinsky-izing-limbaugh/ http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/alinsky-izing-limbaugh/

]]> By: lexhamfox http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949345 lexhamfox Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:18:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949345 It's actually a US Treasury edict about spending money there rather than the visit itself that gets people in trouble but I doubt anyone would be prosecuted unless they really did something significant. It’s actually a US Treasury edict about spending money there rather than the visit itself that gets people in trouble but I doubt anyone would be prosecuted unless they really did something significant.

]]> By: darktood http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949291 darktood Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:09:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949291 <blockquote>Didn’t the Bush administration issue a subpoena against Michael Moore for going to Cuba? Grow Fins on March 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM</blockquote> I was under the impression that without special disposition it was illegal to visit Cuba.

Didn’t the Bush administration issue a subpoena against Michael Moore for going to Cuba?

Grow Fins on March 5, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I was under the impression that without special disposition it was illegal to visit Cuba.

]]> By: entagor http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949229 entagor Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:56:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949229 <blockquote>Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here. OmahaConservative on March 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM</blockquote> I wish I could listen to that clip <blockquote>Pathetic losers. Rush IS the leader of the conservative movement by abdication. rcl on March 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM</blockquote> Rush is speaking for a lot of people which is why his numbers are so big. He also has a decent streak the MSM refuses to acknowledge. I listen a lot Rush praises the masses while people like McCain openly despise the masses (see $50 lettuce) If you don't like the Obama plan, and you don't like the GOP-elite's plan for you, find the one they both hate: Rush When Rush didn't fold his tent under pressure to wave a flag for McCain, and he did not give in to the GOP-bigshot command to 'Get Over It' amd he did not shut up after Obama told people to stop listening, he gained in stature and trust against all the sell-outs We see too many weasels today and few men of conviction Here is a test: would Rush have given the leader of the UK a set of 25 classic movie DVD's as a sign of our shared alliances? Would Chris Matthews? Would Rev. Wright? The Rev might have delivered a kick in the butt, but, but, I suspect he was delighted with Obama's choice I hope Rush takes a cue and creates a short about the Obama gift. Obama should get the praise he deserves for cementing our alliance with the UK so graciously. Get Snerdly in on this one. Rush, there is humor out there for the taking

Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here.

OmahaConservative on March 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM

I wish I could listen to that clip

Pathetic losers. Rush IS the leader of the conservative movement by abdication.

rcl on March 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Rush is speaking for a lot of people which is why his numbers are so big. He also has a decent streak the MSM refuses to acknowledge. I listen a lot

Rush praises the masses while people like McCain openly despise the masses (see $50 lettuce)

If you don’t like the Obama plan, and you don’t like the GOP-elite’s plan for you, find the one they both hate: Rush

When Rush didn’t fold his tent under pressure to wave a flag for McCain, and he did not give in to the GOP-bigshot command to ‘Get Over It’ amd he did not shut up after Obama told people to stop listening, he gained in stature and trust against all the sell-outs

We see too many weasels today and few men of conviction

Here is a test: would Rush have given the leader of the UK a set of 25 classic movie DVD’s as a sign of our shared alliances?

Would Chris Matthews?

Would Rev. Wright? The Rev might have delivered a kick in the butt, but, but, I suspect he was delighted with Obama’s choice

I hope Rush takes a cue and creates a short about the Obama gift. Obama should get the praise he deserves for cementing our alliance with the UK so graciously. Get Snerdly in on this one. Rush, there is humor out there for the taking

]]> By: rcl http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1949033 rcl Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:19:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1949033 <blockquote>Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here</blockquote> Damn straight. AP sucks. <blockquote>It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric.</blockquote> Suffering my ass. If they weren't such a pack of gutless liars they'd be working dawn to dusk to CRUSH OBAMA and they'd say so loudly, frequently and with Pride instead of shucking and jiving before their MSM masters. To hell with this phony conservative metro bullshit. Every individual right in this country is under attack from the left. If you don't have the stones to fight face to face then you have no purpose as a conservative in today's America. Even Huck & Palin & Mitt are too timid to seize the moment, fill the void and draw the fire. Pathetic losers. Rush IS the leader of the conservative movement by abdication.

Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here

Damn straight. AP sucks.

It’s Republicans who are suffering from having to thread the needle between defending Limbaugh and rejecting the “I want him to fail” rhetoric.

Suffering my ass. If they weren’t such a pack of gutless liars they’d be working dawn to dusk to CRUSH OBAMA and they’d say so loudly, frequently and with Pride instead of shucking and jiving before their MSM masters.

To hell with this phony conservative metro bullshit. Every individual right in this country is under attack from the left. If you don’t have the stones to fight face to face then you have no purpose as a conservative in today’s America. Even Huck & Palin & Mitt are too timid to seize the moment, fill the void and draw the fire.

Pathetic losers. Rush IS the leader of the conservative movement by abdication.

]]> By: Obama Attacks Rush Limbaugh, but Prostrates Himself to America’s Enemies « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1948923 Obama Attacks Rush Limbaugh, but Prostrates Himself to America’s Enemies « AmeriCAN-DO Attitude Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:57:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1948923 [...] made some of these same points directed at AllahPundit at HotAir: Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s [...] [...] made some of these same points directed at AllahPundit at HotAir: Why the fixation on Rush as a “private citizen”? The idea, I take it, is that Obama’s [...]

]]> By: OmahaConservative http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1948791 OmahaConservative Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:38:02 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1948791 Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here. Rush just thanked Ed, Michelle & HA for support. He also referred to some oddballs here.

]]> By: Mark Garnett http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1948733 Mark Garnett Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:30:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1948733 <blockquote>BlueCollarAstronaut on March 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM</blockquote> I love this...

BlueCollarAstronaut on March 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I love this…

]]> By: SKYFOX http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/04/the-obligatory-rush-challenges-obama-to-a-debate-post/comment-page-4/#comment-1948723 SKYFOX Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:28:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=45867#comment-1948723 Christina_M Agreed. But sometimes the headlines are really enticing even when I know he's going to be snarky, condescending and negative. Maybe it's the masochist in me. You know what a masochist is, right? That's someone who beats his head against the wall cause it feels so good to stop. Christina_M

Agreed. But sometimes the headlines are really enticing even when I know he’s going to be snarky, condescending and negative. Maybe it’s the masochist in me. You know what a masochist is, right? That’s someone who beats his head against the wall cause it feels so good to stop.

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