Quote of the day
posted at 10:30 pm on March 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
“I do not doubt the sincerity of Obama’s religious intentions. But while many social conservatives have pointed a spotlight on Obama’s socially liberal policies (repealing the Mexico City Policy, for example) few have paid attention to the likely impact his stimulus, bailout, and economic welfare programs will have. One unremarked and unintended consequence of Barack Obama’s audacious plans for the expansion of government—especially in health care, education, and the environment—is that the nanny state he is seeking to build will likely crowd out religious institutions in America. In other words, if he succeeds in passing his ambitious agenda, the Obama revolution is likely to lead the United States down the secular path already trod by Europe…
In the United States, as Alexis de Tocqueville observed, religious institutions have long provided crucial social and moral ballast to the individualistic ethos of our nation. For instance, as political scientist Arthur Brooks pointed out in his recent book, Who Really Cares , religious Americans are significantly more likely to give to charity and to volunteer their time than are secularists. In 2000, he found, for instance, that ninety-one percent of regular churchgoers (those who attend religious services nearly every week or more frequently) gave money to charities, compared to sixty-six percent of secularists (those who attend religious services a couple times a year or not at all); moreover, sixty-seven percent of churchgoers volunteered, compared to forty-four percent of secularists.
This is why, even though Obama’s audacious agenda might provide short-term relief to the economic and social challenges that now beset us, over the long term the Obama revolution is likely to erode first the religious and then the civic and moral fabric of the nation.”
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I think it’s quite the opposite. As “hope and change” fades away, people will turn to what most them know…religion.
SouthernGent on March 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Well, duh.
rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Yeap………….
…………. “God Da$n America!”
Seven Percent Solution on March 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
If Obama don’t give it to you, you don’t need it.
MB4 on March 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Yeah, Obama is destroying the country. Nothing new there.
Norwegian on March 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Wow, thanks for the link AP. That was a worthy read.
Spirit of 1776 on March 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Bullshiite. The Obamatants, or Obathlics if you like, will be the new religious movement, faithfully spreading the word of the Black Super Messiah and his wonderous plans for America and the world.
One day we will pine for the comparative harmlessness of the Moonies.
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:37 PM
Just another installment of As the United States Turns Into the Sudan. Starring Barack Obama. Directed by Nancy Pelosi. Executive Producer: George Soros.
Percy_Peabody on March 3, 2009 at 10:38 PM
We’re following in the same path, and I will not blame anyone who works/produces less, hides more assets, pays lesser taxes. I’ll lead the way, and how.
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Glad you agree.
Limerick on March 3, 2009 at 10:43 PM
“This is the greatest wealth destruction I’ve seen by a president.” ~ ~ Cramer, who voted for him.
This will be the O-legacy, if he succeeds. Somehow, I don’t think he will.
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 10:44 PM
The moral fabric of the nation is already kinda threadbare.
Maury Povich makes a living out of saying “Jermaine…you are…NOT the father!”
“Bleep! Bleep! Mother bleeping ho!…”
I think the One just wants to bring the rest of us down to that level. That’s his idea of social equality.
Ted Torgerson on March 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Close, but not Europe. You have to go a little farther east and little farther north to get to the secular state that the idiot messiah wants to emulate. The Precedent is a marxist looking to the old USSR for his inspiration and as his model. Add to that a good dose of REVENGE against whites (social and economic “justice”) and Western civilization and you have our Precedent’s intent nailed.
Anyone who thought that BHO was religious needed to take a good, long look at the crypto-Christian cult of Trinity. There’s no religion in there, just marxism and black rage parading as religion, not unlike islam, itself (also a political ideology at its core).
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Obama- to quote the poet “not waving but drowning“.
Flailing about in his inexperience.
Making a splash.
profitsbeard on March 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 10:41 PM
It will be interesting to see if the Galt movement, or the modified Galt (reducing workload to get under $250k) gains more traction over the coming months.
I could do one or both, but keeping an advertised shop open would probably attract unwanted attention.
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
wow this won QoD eh???
Hope’n'Change are a poor substitute for obeying God and giving proper service to Him…..
liberalism=s supposed adults believing in Santa Claus….
sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Obama’s solution to the economy: “Hey fella, here’s a shovel. Start digging.”
pearson on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Oh come on now,Hopey has only one religion!
Obama’s campaign is Hope and Change,which decoded, through
the Liberal De-Speakalator,is one of,
I Hope you Change your RELIGION,and JOIN MINE,and after
I become SUPREME LIBERAL DICTATOR,and the Liberal Party,
is in ABSOLUTE FULL CONTROL of all aspects of GOVERNMENT,
and the DEMOCRATS have TOTAL POWER over you,then,if choosen
will be allowed to,
WORSHIP,at the,
ALTER OF LIBERALISM,
and that includes the,
Bitter’s and Clinger’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(SNARK).
canopfor on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Combine this with his plan to limit tax deductions for charitable contributions, thus weakening the abilitiy of charities to operate independently, and you’ve got an even stronger case that Obama intends to exacerbate the welfare state by forcing more people to accept government aid.
Dead Hand Control on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM
In any Socialist system the State takes on many of God’s roles. The State becomes Provider and Savior (“hope”), It defines morality and human worth (in relation to that human’s value to the state), It is the Owner of all things and through It all things are created and held together. It re-creates man in It’s Own image and trains him to serve It (see: the public school system) until man exists through the State and for the State.
A Socialist state’s greatest natural enemy is God because God is its only true competition.
29Victor on March 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Just think of it, Obambi’s only been at it a few weeks and we’ve already lost a couple of trillion dollars of GDP. I suppose that DOES qualify as change though.
Obama = Carter Jr.
Mojave Mark on March 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Good insight into the future of this country.
One thing that gives me hope is that America is NOT Sweden or any other European country. They lost their religious and moral character before socialism kicked in.
In fact socialism came about easily because of the loss of their religious footing.
Socialism is being forced on this nation in a rapid fashion and is not and will not go down as peacefully as it did in Europe.
We also have guns. God and gun will bring about a very different socialist utopia than Obama has invisioned.
It’s not going to be pretty!
katy on March 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM
The only connection my provided link has with this is Obama.
From the Onion, Obama Outfitted With 238 Motion Capture Sensors For 3-D Record Of Presidency
The pictures are funnier than the article.
Hope you enjoy them as much as I did.
shick on March 3, 2009 at 10:50 PM
So…Obama is the anti-Christ. Nothing we didn’t already know.
jencab on March 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM
Has someone done any research into how much the teacher’s union pension is invested into AIG and if any other big democratic groups are also invested into AIG. Could this be why AIG was chosen, for a bailout, over Lehman Brothers?
kagai on March 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Still with the idiotic “Obama is a Marxist” canard!
Marxists believe a very specific, very unique set of things that other types of socialists do not. What has Obama ever said or done that indicates he is a Marxist? The correct answer to that question is, of course, “no; progressoverpeace is just spewing epithets in the absence of proof that will convince nobody save the already-insane.” When it is so easy to prove that Obama’s policies have a decidedly socialist bent–specifically of the National Socialist variety–why make untrue claims that he is a Marxist?
(Also, Mr. Lunatic, Obama is President, not Precedent.)
hicsuget on March 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Me thinks,I’ve stumbled on the Stealthy smoking gun!
Obama and Reperations for Slavery:
http://www.topix.com/us/democrat/2008/08/obama-and-reperations-for-slavery
canopfor on March 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
The nation-wide tea party is on April 15. Michelle Malkin is a sponsor.
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
So let me see if I go this right….Bush spends like crazy bad but Obama does and it is good. Ok gotcha.
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
No one wanted anyone to say it, and we are scolded for even bringing it up, but there is only one reason obama could sit in that church and listen week after week for 20 years to wright’s rantings and that is because that was what he was used to hearing in the muslim mosque which he grew up in. He is trying to destroy America because he is beholden to the middle east mind set.
Can anyone tell me when he was baptized or whatever they do in that church to show that you are a member? He was in it for political reasons and is still a muslim.
He is destroying this country.
Bambi on March 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
I love the polls calling GOPers obstructionists. PSSST… the DEMS control the Presidency and Congress. Americans are TRULY ignorant.
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
soundingboard on March 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Gold! hahha!
aikidoka on March 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
blah blah blah
its all i hear anymore
blatantblue on March 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
That’s why he’s raising taxes on charities too. He wants the big government to replace the charity structure of USA.
promachus on March 3, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Don’t worry, people will be clinging to their bibles and guns soon enough.
Free Constitution on March 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Yeah, your own grave. You won’t have any money left to pay someone to do it for you.
jimmy2shoes on March 3, 2009 at 11:02 PM
I’m not sure what “relief” is being discussed, here. The Porkulus was not about economic relief, but about patronage. And I have no idea, whatsoever, what social challenges the author is talking about and what possible relief for these “social challenges” he’s talking about. No idea, at all. As far as social challenges, I do know that we have an insane race-baiter running Justice (Holder must RESIGN, NOW!!!) and that we have been treated to a moron at the inauguration explaining how there is a need for “white to embrace what is right”, along with a bunch of other idiots and morons that have been pushed to powerful positions in our government, but I’m not sure what the social challenges were and what the Precedent’s “short-term relief” for them might be.
“Revolution” is what the Precedent is seeking. That’s for sure. It’s like living in some Latin American sh!thole, frankly. But the author is right on the mark in saying that the Precedent’s plans will erode the fabric of our nation. Of course, that is the idiot messiah’s intention. He HATES the fabric of our nation and wants to tear it to shreds.
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:03 PM
The good news is that I’ve read the back of the book. God wins.
jimmy2shoes on March 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Well,isn’t that sumpin,Obama Ministry of Information
has been busy,
on the link I provided,
Sorry,that page is not available!
I wonder why!!
And that’s why Obama is trying to cram,100 years of
AMERICA into his first term,he’s got a lot of work
ahead of him,
to make “CHANGES”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on March 3, 2009 at 11:05 PM
hicsuget –
Prove that he’s not a Marxist there, Junior. He’s on the cusp of socializing the banks, the auto industry, and attempting to cut into people’s retirement savings (too bad there will be nothing left once the Dow hits 4000). He’s trying to make socialist medicine for all. He’s increasing taxes and basically punishing those who achieve much in life to subsidize those who will not or cannot do as much. He’s threatening to cut off the ability to donate with some kind of tax deductibleness in order to run all charitable organizations into the ground and force more people on the government dole. His lapdogs in the media act like everything he craps out is gold in spite of evidence to the contrary.
He’s a Marxist, plain and simple.
mjk on March 3, 2009 at 11:05 PM
meh.
ernesto on March 3, 2009 at 11:06 PM
The Precedent is a marxist. In a nutshell, everything is class warfare to him. In place of the proletariat he has blacks and other non-whites … suffering under the horrible generosity of whites and Western civilization.
And he is a Precedent, not a President.
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:08 PM
that was actually pretty clever. though im still scratching my head as to how welfare and tax policies not far removed from our recent past and some universal health care has translated into Obama planning to put all the means of production under politboro control.
ernesto on March 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM
(Also, Mr. Lunatic, Obama is President, not Precedent.)
hicsuget on March 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM
(It’s not “Obama”, it’s “Ogabe.”)
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 11:15 PM
AMEN!!
Remember GOD is in control! No that does no mean we should crawl under a rock, he only told us to turn on cheek but we can not have hate toward the other side or we would be no better than them. I know our founding fathers thought like that too.
Be_Aware on March 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM
What Obama is doing is creating two classes in this country.
A class of dependents, and a class of elites.
Eventually, it will not only erode religious values, but objectivism as well.
Kini on March 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM
President, Precedent, Obama, Ogabe, I just call him Barry.
Maxist, Socialist, Commie-Pinko-Rocky-Horror-Wannabe, what is the difference? The man has a plan that I want nothing to do with, want my children to have nothing to do with and want my grandchildren to remember as the Great Mistake.
Limerick on March 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Obama’s new world order eliminates personal responsibility and the pursuit of excellence.
The primary safety net on which we should rely should consist of concentric circles that include our immediate family, our extended family, our friends, our church (parish or synagogus), local community, and local charity.
Shifting this safety net to the federal government eliminates the natural sense of shame that one should experience if seeking help after being stupid and foolish [consider those who borrowed and spent foolishly]. Further, whether a recipient was stupid and foolish or blameless, this shifting eliminates the gratitude that the recipient should feel toward the donor. Indeed, this shifting transforms that natural sense of gratitude to a sense of entitlement.
So, hey, let’s exchange intra-family assistance and local community good works for Obama’s socially engineered nanny state. I’m sure it’ll work wonders.
New Obama motto: The Audacity of Mediocrity.
BuckeyeSam on March 3, 2009 at 11:21 PM
BREAKING NEWS!!!
The dire economic situation is not Obama’s fault, nor Bush’s!
In short, women were the driving force behind the greed, consumerism and materialism of the Celtic Tiger years and it was female employment that funded their oestrogen-crazed acquisitiveness.
MB4 on March 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Does this mean I can waterboard my wife? Please?
Limerick on March 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM
There are eight stages of democracy.
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.
katy on March 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I dunno. You had best have a detailed and foolproof escape plan ready first.
MB4 on March 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Well gosh, it’s almost as if he’s extremist liberal who wants to fundamentally change the American way of life.
WisCon on March 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Thanks. I’ve been using it since the election, when I decided that he was the Precedent-Elect.
The bailouts are moving from industry to industry, with the government looking to take control each time. On top of that, the Precedent and the lunatic Congress are passing regulations that will cripple industry (don’t forget that the first $25 billion to Detroit was not a bail-out, but money that was needed for Detroit to become compliant with Congressional environmental regulations). This is not happenstance, but part of a plan – as with the idiot messiah’s declaration that he would bankrupt the coal industry with regulations and fines. Cap and trade is a huge step to killing all industry, forcing bailouts and inviting government control of those means. Then you need go only a little further and examine what BHO said about his choices for judges (the now-classic ‘empathy’ description). He was very explicit in this, along with his disdain for our Founders for not including forced redistribution of wealth in the Constitution (I can get you these quotes if you’d like, but I assume that you’ve seen them). Then, there is all his talk about economic and social justice (which Holder parrotted in his unbelievably moronic speech) and the whole picture becomes pretty clear.
Normally, the chances of such a program being successful would be nil, but we are at a very precarious monetary state, right now (not to mention our economic fragility) and it will not take too much to actually destroy the dollar. After that happens, all bets are off, though those currently in power think that it gives them a free hand to do anything they want. This is where the Precedent and Congress are headed, at full speed.
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM
LOL!
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I don’t see it happening. Your premise would indicate that everyone will get aboard the government teat. I think the vast majority of Americans will reject that and seek help in the traditional places. They might not voice it, but I’m sure that they are of the mind, “If the government can give it, they can also take it away”. They’re also well aware that The One has a nasty habit of throwing “inconvenience” under the bus.
GarandFan on March 3, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Seven Percent Solution on March 3, 2009 at 11:33 PM
I Keep Thinking About When Moses Went Up The Mountain To Be With GOD (The People Turned From Obedience, Declaring: “The Wisdom Of Man Is Greater Than The Wisdom Of This GOD” “Let Us Worship What Man Declares To Be Good”. This Same Applies To Jesus Going Up To Be With GOD, America Has Joined Many Lands, Many Peoples In Her Pride, Arrogance And Unbelief. “And The Light Shined, And The Darkness Comprehended It Not” “Unto Whom Has The Arm Of The Lord Been Revealed?”
GD on March 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Indeed. The elitists and the moochers/looters will have no producers to milk. Then, there will only be control and misery. They’ll find it out the hard way, and they will deserve it.
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM
well id wonder just how sure you are about just how crippled industry will be by some of these regulations. i mean, im not up on the intricacies…but is even the worst case Obama regulatory environment all that far off from clinton era or bush I era? i mean, given our policy history, i wouldnt be surprised if alot of the rates and scales being looked at to chart obama’s course are old numbers. like capital gains rates going no higher than rates we’ve had in recent history. even the congressional majorities arent as large as they were under johnson. its not like all the stuff being thrown around is unprecedented.
that being said, i must agree with you on the environmental stuff. he is being much too hasty with very broad tools. it is a troubling framework he’s erecting there, to be sure. however, marxist takeover it is not.
Europe, for all its loathed policies (of which there are justifiably many), has been able to sustain long term social democratic agendas without controlling all or most or even many means of production…a few “national champions” i suppose but nothing even bordering on socialist transitional stuff let alone outright marxism.
I know you see these developments and see red flags everywhere. And on some matters i agree with your assessments. However, i find very little real evidence that could bring me to the same ultimate conclusions.
ernesto on March 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM
I’m not sure if you were responding to my last post, but, if you were, I’m not saying that it will happen or that Americans will accept it, but that it is what I see the idiot messiah working towards. I wrote many posts describing exactly this during the campaign, after the credit crisis hit and the real fear that swept the nation, and changed everything, became apparent. It doesn’t take a majority to move a nation, especially when they have the force of government (as we got a tiny inkling of with the Ohio government turning on Joe the Plumber and the chill it sent around for a while).
Personally, I expect these plans of the idiot libs to go very far (they have, already), but to end up forcing states to secede from the US in response and then a dissolution of the US. That is, unless the SCOTUS gets some guts and finally throws the Precedent out.
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM
7%, thanks for ruining my night, you bad,
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Yep, wake up, or just one more to go.
ernesto, the comparable to Europe is insane. Sweden, having finally taxed itself into oblivion, is trying hard to get back. The road back is very hard. Look how miserable South America is. Why do you want to be worse off? Why don’t you want for them to emulate a better system? Theirs is a Utopian idealistic one, which has never worked. This one worked for so long, yes, not perfectly, but better than any other one on Earth.
Entelechy on March 3, 2009 at 11:45 PM
BO subscribes to Black Liberation Theology, he immersed himself in it for 20 years. It has strong Marxist roots. To dismiss that he sat in Trinity Church in Chicago and listened to this crap for so long is a big mistake, there is no excuse for being ignorant of exactly where he is coming from.
http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php
kg598301 on March 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM
I agree with you. The difference now is our monetary situation. We are on the very brink of monetary collapse, and that is something very different than anything we had to contend with before. That is the weakness.
It’s just the start.
Now, here is the big problem. Europe was able to do what it did because it had the great economic engine of the US supporting them. Europe didn’t have to waste any money on defense, since we took care of that. They didn’t have to waste much on developing their health care, since the great majority of health care advances were paid for by the US market. That is to say that almost all developments of health care (drugs, machines, …) were done with the US market in mind, since we were the ones paying big bucks for the most recent and best available. After things were created and produced for our market, the rest of the world got to use them without shouldering any of the initial costs. I mean, forget Europe, but look at Mexico (or any other country like that) what advances in health care do they invent? What drugs are made for them? None. They just wait until someone makes something for the US and then they buy it. With Europe it was the same, though Europe shouldered a liitle bit more burden than Mexico or Central America, but not much.
The point is that Europe could only be what they were because the US existed to support it. The US cannot become Europe (though you know that I think that BHO is directed at a place far to the left of Europe) because there is no one we can draft off of, as it were. If the US economic engine slows down, the whole world grinds to a near-halt. From there, the story gets very dark.
I understand your view. I just see some, what I consider to be, extreme vulnerabilities that cause me great concern, in a ddition to what I think are the Precedent’s views and intentions. (And we haven’t even started talking about the middle east, Israel, Iran and oil, yet!)
progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM
im not saying what obamas got planned is my ideal solution…i had 2 points
a) that Obama’s plans on taxes, welfare, and regulation (though not entirely sure about the last) are comparable to other liberal plans in our recent history (none of which, by the way, made us sweden)
b) that Obama is not a marxist. that marxists advocate politboro control of all the means of production and even swedens not that.
ernesto on March 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM
I think the last 20 – 30 years have been apathy to dependence;
I believe after Nov 4th we have entered into the last phase.
katy on March 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Gold coins might be out of the realm of some.
Silver coins anyone?
Chaz706 on March 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM
ernesto, in this case scope, or math, or both, are indignant.
p.s. he’s not a Marxist, yet, though Marx and Engels would approve of him mightily, and he’s going that a way…
Entelechy on March 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM
well for both our sakes, lets hope my assessment of the historical context gets proven right.
and remember hotair, marxists want total politboro control of all the means of production. most of what you call marxism is in fact a social democratic agenda, made popular by postwar center-left ruling coalitions in europe. marxism is defined by its usurping of all the means of production. every factory and retail shop…every television station…every financial firm, defense contractor, sporting league…everything.
ernesto on March 4, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I’m settling into one of two conclusions:
Either Obama is willfully and intentionally destroying the country, and he’s really good at it – or he has good intentions and wants to help the country, and he’s phenomenally bad at it.
Daggett on March 4, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I think the Simpson scenario is most probable. The religious will turn to booze and the secularists will turn to religion.
WashJeff on March 4, 2009 at 12:04 AM
“alot of the rates and scales being looked at to chart obama’s course are old numbers. like capital gains rates going no higher than rates we’ve had in recent history.”
ernesto
The problem w/Obama’s rates and scales is that they are based on false assumptions. His capital gains tax increases assume that the rate of investment will remain the same when it jumps from 15% to 20%. It won’t. His predictions are so ridiculously inflated, they make Pollyanna look like a genius!
JAM on March 4, 2009 at 12:05 AM
“Daggett on March 4, 2009 at 12:03 AM”
sadly, the balance of evidence points to the former …
:-(
Buckaroo on March 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Given that all investments (e.g., stocks, commodities, etc.) are being sold currently, except T-bills, the rate of investments that produce capital gains will be negatively impacted. All this debt Obama is producing is diverting capital that would be used in the private sector.
WashJeff on March 4, 2009 at 12:10 AM
It cannot be the former. Why would he have spent so much effort to make that really cool recovery.gov logo?
WashJeff on March 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Religious folk are so damn greedy! It’s not enough for them to give to charity and volunteer their time at a rate consistent with the collective average. No, they’re malcontents. They can’t get enough so they take and take some more, taking more than their fair share of the pie. It’s practically stealing! Their greed is not fair to those who give less. These people have got to be punished—taken down a notch—reduced to a level consistent with the collective average.
We could institute a new tax, or—HEY! we can accomplish the same thing by reducing the deductions for charitable contributions; and we can argue that it isn’t even a tax at all! It’s practically conservative; something Reagan might’ve done. That way we can level the playing field and everybody will then feel equally good about themselves.
Besides, the government is chock full of elite experts which undoubtedly know how the money can be put to good use far better than greedy religious folk. [Rubs hands together in anticipation] -Obama’s Orwellian subconscious
FloatingRock on March 4, 2009 at 12:15 AM
I join you in that, ernesto. But my opposition to specific policies remains rooted in what I see unfolding for the future, along with the intent that I perceive in the policymakers.
progressoverpeace on March 4, 2009 at 12:16 AM
“WashJeff on March 4, 2009 at 12:12 AM”
’cause the hammer and sickle was already taken?!
:-(
Buckaroo on March 4, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Why even have charities? Their mere existence is evidence of govt failings and are anathema to the modern state.
We need a brave new world and I know just the guy that can make it happen.
moxie_neanderthal on March 4, 2009 at 12:18 AM
There is more than one way to skin a cat, ernesto.
OldEnglish on March 4, 2009 at 12:59 AM
It may be new, moxie, but it certainly isn’t brave.
OldEnglish on March 4, 2009 at 1:10 AM
MB4 on March 4, 2009 at 1:18 AM
That is probably one of the most upsetting articles I’ve read. This isn’t just about charities and tax right-offs, this is about losing The Church in America. That is very, very depressing.
jcheney on March 4, 2009 at 1:33 AM
And all the atheists shouted: Three cheers, we fooled them all. “Hip Hip Hooray! Hip Hip HOORAY!! GoooOOOO OBAMA!!!”
apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 1:39 AM
All of them?
FloatingRock on March 4, 2009 at 1:49 AM
Obama bad……..
……… my Dear Lady.
Seven Percent Solution on March 4, 2009 at 1:55 AM
Okay. Not all of them. There are some good atheists In America, and bad atheists. Recently we’ve had a whole stack of bad atheists rise to the front. They’re the ones cheering. They wanna get God off the Pledge of Allegience. They wanna get “In God We Trust” off our money. And I wanna stop it. Go to http://www.pulltheplugonatheism.com where you can go and find articles and video clips that disprove evolution and prove God’s existence. Thank you.
apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 2:03 AM
“apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 2:03 AM”
wow, you just ooze class, doncha?
/eyeroll
Buckaroo on March 4, 2009 at 2:08 AM
I read today in the Kroger check-out line on a tabloid sheet that Michelle is worried sick that Barack might just be gay.
She’s really, really worried.
I wonder if the blue lips have anything to do with it?
Maybe this is why he married someone that looks like a guy in drag?
Hey, if the libs can harass Limbaugh and Steele, I guess making fun of sock puppet this way is now fair game.
Spiritk9 on March 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM
Something in your eye? Funny twitch there.
apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 2:12 AM
“Go to http://www.pulltheplugonatheism.com where you can go and find articles and video clips that disprove evolution and prove God’s existence. Thank you.
apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 2:03 AM”
Um, that link that’s imbedded in your name goes to a video that says you don’t deny science….at least the first second of it, that’s all I watched.
BTW, evolution can be backed up with a lot of that aforementioned science, where’s the science backing up your hypothesis?
Spiritk9 on March 4, 2009 at 2:15 AM
This is why I am convinced that most atheists don’t really want an answer. Spiritk9 says, “I watched 1 second of a video about creation and I don’t like it!! LOL. You try to give them the truth, and they ignore it.
You don’t mind if I don’t waste my time by answering you do you? You just showed me you don’t have an honest interest in knowing. I’d rather you not tie up all my time when so many people want to hear the truth. Thanks.
apacalyps on March 4, 2009 at 2:34 AM
About the same way that “Bush and Cheney shredded the Constitution.”
It isn’t socialism, just good old fashioned class warfare and reparations.
rockmom on March 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM
It’s all but lost already everywhere outside the Bible Belt. Boomer parents decided religion was gauche and interfered with Sunday brunch. They wanted to raise heir kids “non-judgmentally.” So they did not make their kids go to church or Sunday school. These are the Obama voters. Obama is trying to give them a new religion without God.
rockmom on March 4, 2009 at 2:48 AM
How can he state with such certainty that this Marxist doesn’t, indeed, intend for this outcome? Of course he does. But then the author lost me with that first line quoted about not questioning his religious convictions. Yeah, right. A Christian would really allow babies who survive abortions to die alone in utility closets. Sure.
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on March 4, 2009 at 2:53 AM
No, thank you. Always a pleasure.
*facepalm*
MadisonConservative on March 4, 2009 at 2:54 AM
A downward spiral
Kini on March 4, 2009 at 3:33 AM
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