Murtha: Um, we need 600,000 troops to pacify Afghanistan
posted at 9:35 pm on March 3, 2009 by Allahpundit
In fairness, he’s not wildly above the estimate of 400,000 given by the former NATO commander there. But since Obama’s European admirers aren’t so admiring that they’re going to send more troops, the estimate might as well be a million or more. Iraq anti-war strategy redux: We don’t have enough boots on the ground so we can’t win so let’s come home.
The Pennsylvania Democrat, who chairs the powerful subcommittee that funds the military, said his figure was based on the country’s history of rigorous fighting and its size.
“That’s what I estimate it would take in a country that size to get it under control,” Murtha said in an interview…
Murtha also said he’s uncomfortable with President Barack Obama’s decision to increase the number of troops in the country by 17,000 before a goal was clearly defined. But he says he anticipates a plan will be developed to train Afghan security forces, and then the U.S. military will get out. He said he sees Afghanistan has more of a diplomatic mission, than a military one.
“I think you’ll see a change,” Murtha said. “I’m confident you’re going to see them only adjusting for a short period of time with these additional troops.”
My knowledge of conditions inside the country is, shall we say, highly imperfect, but as I understand it, the Afghan security forces aren’t anywhere near the levels of competence or manpower of their Iraqi counterparts. Unless Murtha’s talking about some sort of cosmetic effort to train whoever we can train in, say, six months before hurriedly redeploying to Okinawa or wherever, then the “training” here is going to take years and years and years. Which makes me think “training” is just his version of a fig leaf for Obama’s surge, to give the incoming troops some sort of finite mission the completion of which will be grounds to start agitating for withdrawal. Those stirrings I mentioned a few weeks ago are really starting to stir now.
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Trashing of a U.S. Marine and VietNam veteran begins in 5…4…3…
benny shakar on March 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM
We could spend the entire thread trashing you if you’d prefer.
James on March 3, 2009 at 9:40 PM
It is patently half-hearted.
As soon as there is a major loss of life we will come home.
Starlink on March 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM
I’m able to do both without a surge.
moxie_neanderthal on March 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine, too. Serving in the corps doesn’t give you lifelong immunity.
amerpundit on March 3, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Nah, it’s just stunning how quickly doves mutate into hawks.
ddrintn on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
It’s been said that, while there are many former Marines, there are only 2 ex-Marines — Lee Harvey Oswald and Mad Jack Murtha.
califcon on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Burn in Hell Murtha. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!
SouthernGent on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Um, aren’t we there to deny AQ a safe-haven? Aren’t we doing that? I’ve read the reports of Afghanistan being a, literally, 13th century country. And I don’t know if we can/should turn it into a 21th century democracy. All I know is that we screwed the pooch last time we left before getting some type of sane governance in that country, and it resulted in being a breeding ground for people that didn’t just want to control their part of the world, they wanted ours too.
Deny AQ/jihadists a foothold = victory in my book.
VolMagic on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
I’m a Vietnam combat vet and a Marine…. I’ll trash his fat ass all I want… got a problem with that? In fact, I told him he was no Marine to his face when he was in MN two years ago….. how’s that?… keep the countdown going,
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Making irrelevant and inane comments begins in -1… -2… -3… -4… -5…
Midas on March 3, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Have they not yet thrown this guy off a cliff?
pcpower1 on March 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Just one thing to say to you, mister…
Thanks for your service.
Midas on March 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
I’m in.
Fletch54 on March 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Its not Afghanistan we need to pacify. Its the Taliban strongholds in Waziristan next door in Pakistan that we need to pacify.
Dreadnought223 on March 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Like I said before, this is just cover for the inevitable. In 2 years we will have pulled completely out and left Afghanistan to the taliban…setting the stage for what logically comes after that.
AUINSC on March 3, 2009 at 9:46 PM
benny, benny, Motha doesn’t need trashing. He is trash.
Lincoln Cadillac on March 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Crack meet pot.
Murtha couldn’t sell Korans in Mecca.
profitsbeard on March 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
He’s troop-slandering scum, and defiant about it. That invalidates whatever he did for his country.
You’re merely hypocritical, dishonest scum.
Both of you can piss off.
MadisonConservative on March 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
True, however the trick is the Pakistani border and 17k is paltry by any military stretch to deal with the Taliban in the country proper, and the AQ/jihadists in the tribal border regions. This time next year we won’t be there.
Starlink on March 3, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Benny if you had clue one about how things go here, you’d know that military service and personnel are honored and appreciated at HA.
That appreciation doesnt automatically extend to everything else a person does later in life, nor should it. See: John Murtha, Oliver Stone, Gray Davis, Chuck Hagel etc. I and 99.9995% of the readers and commenters on this site appreciates and values the service to country of these people. But we dont give them a lifetime pass to act like a tard and expect to be shielded by their service.
Now go home and get your shine box.
Mike D. on March 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Midas
I thank you but it was my honor, and I’d never do anything to smear it like Murtha did… that is the sad part.
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM
That’s the Marine spirit! You’re my kind of Marine: Kick A$$ face-to-face!
Thanks to you, I am safe!
TN Mom on March 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM
What’s Mr. Teleprompter’s strategy…………..
………… throw more
moneytroops at the problem without a plan?Talk nice…….?
Send a private letter to the Russians…….?
Send in the troops, then cut the Defense budget by 25%…..?
Have the media follow every soldier around and second guess their actions……..?
Give anti-American sound bytes to our enemies for their propaganda and recruiting efforts……..?
Call our troops “murders”…….?
Say the war is “lost”…….?
What do we do with terrorists on the battle field who shoot from behind women and children……………. Mr. Teleprompter is closing Club Gitmo………..?
Come on libs……….
………. what’s the plan?
Seven Percent Solution on March 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Benny’s Marines are allowed to steal candy too.
Murtha is a diamond in the rough for us. By 2012 every independent and blue dog in the country will want a slice of him.
Limerick on March 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM
With 600,000 troops in Afghanistan (Murtha) we can move toward stemming the loss of 500 million American jobs per month (Pelosi) and maybe “save or create” a few million jobs in the process (Obama). Course, we know those troops will only air-raid Afghan villages (Obama) and go door-to-door terrorizing the people of that nation (Kerry).
Did I miss anyone?
And will Hot Air be hosting a suicide hotline soon?(Preferably a suicide prevention hotline, unlike the one in Minnesota.)
cackcon on March 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM
You’ve more honor in your fingernail clippings than Murtha will ever have in his entire body.
Thank you, sir. Thank you for allowing my family and friends to be free.
MadisonConservative on March 3, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Murtha: Um,
weI need 600,000troopsdollars to pacify AfghanistanFIFY
Fuquay Steve on March 3, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Call em’ in from Okinawa!!!
Ps…Sharkroid….your are such a complete douche bag…
Of course, you already know that don’t you??
BigWyo on March 3, 2009 at 9:55 PM
benny shakar: you must leave now. This person has absolute moral authority on this thread. And your face has been shoved in a pile of poo.
BuckeyeSam on March 3, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Madison, I appreciate what you have said… but I never saw it as “allowing ” anyone anything, I felt it my duty and honor…….. I don’t know what else I can say except… when you see someone in uniform, thank them. I never got that until now… I think you know what I mean.
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Mothra trashes himself everytime he opens his piehole….
didn’t he get the memo?
The family works for Bambi now those are Donk Planes….
sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
FIFY
Dreadnought223 on March 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Trash is as trash does.
William Amos on March 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
The next kaboom you hear will be the heads of the anti-war left exploding in unison.
Oink on March 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
You forgot anti military propagandist. Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine too.
Hog Wild on March 3, 2009 at 9:57 PM
But I will say this… never will I let , the John Kerrys, Oliver Stones and John Murthas damage the image of my Corps or any service…. never.
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Murtha,the 600,000 troops,
will that be in ‘Warm Blood’,
or ‘Cold Blood’!
canopfor on March 3, 2009 at 9:59 PM
He would redeploy to Okinawa after his first hour.
William Amos on March 3, 2009 at 9:59 PM
And don’t forget that Charles Whitman was a Marine as well.
carbon_footprint on March 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM
If we send in the troops needed, can we at least annex the country? WTF happened to the ways wars used to be fought? Can we at least plunder the poppy plants or something?
thphilli on March 3, 2009 at 10:00 PM
The trashing of an incompetent corrupt member of Congress begins…and should have begun a long time ago.
Being a veteran, being a Marine…is not license to fleece the public on the public’s dime, nor make stupid statements and refer pre-Article 32 investigation phase as a standing member of Congress that members of our Armed Forces are cold-blooded murderers.
As for that 600,000 troops. Murtha is still stuck in the WWII mode of thinking.
coldwarrior on March 3, 2009 at 10:01 PM
And a pretty fair marksman.
coldwarrior on March 3, 2009 at 10:01 PM
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Oorah!
IrishEi on March 3, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Murtha isnt a Marine. Marines arent Cowards and Murtha is.
The only thing that Murtha is concerned with is bleeding the US taxpayer to pay for all his fat pork projects that he steals from the American people.
Murtha is a crook and a liar and a coward. He is the trifecta of a liberal democrat.
William Amos on March 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM
It is really not very difficult to psychoanalyze Congressman Murtha. Congressman Mutha suffers from what is technically know as the semperideliriumnarcissistmaximus syndrome. It is a long word, as German words often are, but basically means he is a crazy selfish old fart with delusions of grander.
He is also suffering from moderate to sever Alzheimers, but unlike another who suffered from that disease, he does not have the class to suffer with grace.
My treatment protocol would include:
1) Triturating up to very high doses of Donepezil, Galantamine and Rivastigmine.
2) Possible electroshock treatment. The judicial placement of several leaches on his head may also be beneficial.
3) Being placed in a small private room with a couple of Marines including Sgt. MNDavenotPC for some intense counseling may also be needed.
Even with this complete treatment plan, his chances of making any meaningful recovery are unfortunately quite small, but we in my profession do have the responsibility to at least try.
Sigmund on March 3, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Need more troops? Well, shucks, draft’m. Anyone on welfare, anyone unemployed, draft’m. Get the unemployment rate down, gov will get something for the money that’s paid out, stimulate the economy.
Afghanistan gets saved. It fits the democrat play book. The US can rally ’round the president.
Everyone wins. It work so well for LBJ.
Skandia Recluse on March 3, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Relax. No one is accusing Murtha of committing war crimes in Haditha.
Speaking of that, how is that Murtha hasn’t been prosecuted and imprisoned for trying to falsely convict US Marines of war crimes? I can’t think of a worse thing ever done by a politician. Except for John Kerry’s similar crimes, that is.
Buddahpundit on March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Again,its simple,for the Liberal Party,
its “THEIR MILITARY NOW”,and if Obama
wants to continue the Bush policies,
than the Ant-War Moonbats will just have
to suck it up,
and,
enjoy,
being,’BETRAYED” by Hopey/Changey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on March 3, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Trashing of a U.S. Marine and VietNam veteran begins in 5…4…3…
benny shakar on March 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Uh huh…and your side had no problem trashing a Navy pilot and Viet Nam veteran by the name of John McCain.
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Dayummm, thats exactly what I was going to say.
Prior to burning in hell Murtha should be drawn and quartered SLOWLY for treason. Hmmmm, d & q may be too easy on him.
Perhaps vertical burial up to the neck (still squealing) and let the animals finish him, a favorite punishment of the British.
kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Yeah I do love that ex liberal military types like Murtha and Kerry trash their fellow soldiers for the very same actions they did when they were soldiers. Except they didnt come home and whine and beg the anti war to elect them to office by t4rashing their fellow soldiers for political gain like those two opportunists.
William Amos on March 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM
You can only be a Democrat and a real veteran. Repubs are fake
blatantblue on March 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM
MNDavenport on March 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Semper Fi, Marine.
The Army loves ya too.
irongrampa on March 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Remind me to never ever get on your bad side… :-)
coldwarrior on March 3, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Zing!
IrishEi on March 3, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Oh dear, is that torture?
kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Surely there must be even worse punishments we could conjure up for Murtha. Oh I know, make him wear panties on his head! *grin*
kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM
John Kerry’s not so secret any longer MySpace entry:
Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator John Forbes Kerry from the great state of Massachusetts. You can call me JFK if you want. I was born on December 11, 1943, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger. It’s probably my great hair and rugged good looks.
I graduated from Yale in June 1966 in the top 1% of my class. To earn extra money during the summers, I loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door. That is probably one of the reasons that I am so humble. Over my four years at Yale, I maintained a 96 grade average and received a 101 average in my senior year.
I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. Probably the only living Senator even a little bit greater than me is my dear friend Ted Moore Kennedy. I also have a very high IQ. Very high. At least 250 on a bad day. Much higher than that creep who stole the election from me. I know that he stole it because exit polls are never ever wrong.
I am also a great war hero. I set all kinds of records for heroism when I was in Vietnam. I was grievously wounded at least three times yet continued to insist on staying in the fight when lesser men would have given up. I won the bronze star with extra V’s for extra valor and the Silver Star for defeating a whole battalion of NVA with my bare hands.
Sometimes I feel like a had to carry all the water for those other ungrateful swiftboaters.
I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini with my good friend Ted. We usually have a servant bring 21 double martinis. I get one and Ted gets one for each of his fingers and each of his toes. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never marry women for just their money. They must also have a pulse. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam? I was also in Cambodia, so don’t forget that!
I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, heroic and trustworthy. And I appreciate the same qualities in others although I am realistic enough to know that no one else could come close to me.
Turn offs: other politicians who spend more on haircuts than I do. That is just not right.
Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. Other great war heroes who hate that damn S-T-U-P-I-D Texan in the White House and those lying sons of bitcher swiftboat #astardos whose pants are on fire! Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together, talk about you for about 30 seconds and then spend about 9 hours talking about me. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam and Cambodia? Just one more BTW, if anyone has found my magic hat please return to me.
MB4 on March 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM
John Kerry’s not so secret any longer MySpace entry:
Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator John Forbes Kerry from the great state of Massachusetts. You can call me JFK if you want. I was born on December 11, 1943, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger. It’s probably my great hair and rugged good looks.
I graduated from Yale in June 1966 in the top 1% of my class. To earn extra money during the summers, I loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door. That is probably one of the reasons that I am so humble. Over my four years at Yale, I maintained a 96 grade average and received a 101 average in my senior year.
I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. Probably the only living Senator even a little bit greater than me is my dear friend Ted Moore Kennedy. I also have a very high IQ. Very high. At least 250 on a bad day. Much higher than that creep who stole the election from me. I know that he stole it because exit polls are never ever wrong.
I am also a great war hero. I set all kinds of records for heroism when I was in Vietnam. I was grievously wounded at least three times yet continued to insist on staying in the fight when lesser men would have given up. I won the bronze star with extra V’s for extra valor and the Silver Star for defeating a whole battalion of NVA with my bare hands.
Sometimes I feel like a had to carry all the water for those other ungrateful swiftboaters.
I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini with my good friend Ted. We usually have a servant bring 21 double martinis. I get one and Ted gets one for each of his fingers and each of his toes. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never marry women for just their money. They must also have a pulse. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam? I was also in Cambodia, so don’t forget that!
I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, heroic and trustworthy. And I appreciate the same qualities in others although I am realistic enough to know that no one else could come close to me.
Turn offs: other politicians who spend more on haircuts than I do. That is just not right.
Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. Other great war heroes who hate that damn S-T-U-P-I-D Texan in the White House and those lying sons of #itcher swiftboat #astardos whose pants are on fire! Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together, talk about you for about 30 seconds and then spend about 9 hours talking about me. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam and Cambodia? Just one more BTW, if anyone has found my magic hat please return to me.
MB4 on March 3, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Waaiiit a second there, Mr. Murtha. How can you even say we should send any troops when you think they are all thugs and criminals???
jediwebdude on March 3, 2009 at 10:17 PM
LOL, excellent!
I always thought John Kerry could easily play the part of frankenstein with the addition of a bolt through the neck. Our nickname for him during the election was “lurch.”
Thanks for the laugh.
kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Didn’t the only living ex-Marine retire from the Corps? If so, he could be re-called to duty and sent to Afghanistan to count the inventory of used hand grenades. We certainly couldn’t win the war without his valuable contribution to the effort now could we?
Put that REMF donkey’s butt to real work dodging bullets while screaming his head off and simultaneously soiling his pants.
SeniorD on March 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM
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searcher484 on March 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM
One of my life’s goals is to live long enough to piss on John Kerry’s grave.
irongrampa on March 3, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Didn’t Obama oppose sending troops anywhere without first defining the mission and the exit strategy?
GarandFan on March 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I doubt that Murtha ever did the things that he is willing to accuse Marines in Iraq of doing.
Have you ever notice that when liberals act like they are pro-military by defending the honor of a soldier, it’s always a traitor who should be wearing a blindfold and have a cigarette dangling from his lips?
Buddahpundit on March 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I think Afghanistan will help underscore the difference between a Republican President at wartime, and a Democrat. G.W. Bush was able to turn around a bad situation in Iraq and put us in a position to win. Here is the opportunity for Obama to show that a Democrat can do as well.
My money is on Obama messing it up horribly.
Hawthorne on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Hmm . . . 400,000, are you sure he wasn’t talking about the number of lobbyists he’s taken
kickbacksdonations from?sdun1 on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Piss on it? Nah, what I have in mind will last a little longer and remain highly visible. I’ll ever use the ‘soft stuff’ the greenies say is wiping out hole forests.
GarandFan on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
The dems are going big.
getalife on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
We heard you the first dozen times you spammed us with this nonsense. Why you haven’t been banned yet is beyond my comprehension.
hillbillyjim on March 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM
..
..Show of hands for who thinks we should pelt this guy with hard candy.
Or maybe cans of spam would be more appropriate?
Reaps on March 3, 2009 at 10:24 PM
The dems are going hawkish
BTW Murtha cannot hide behind is military service every time he opens his fat mouth.
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Did anyone ask Kerry for his opinion?
If you did not hear…he served in vietnam
/sarc
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 10:25 PM
I know it is slightly off target but is Obama now a war criminal?
Still in Iraq- CHECK
Still in Afghanistan- CHECK
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM
GarandFan on March 3,2009 at 10:21 PM
Probly have a goodly wait in line, too.
irongrampa on March 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Heh. At least one and maybe more of the “Afganis” that flashed by on the terrorist perp walk part of the video were actually US Special Forces. I wonder if the makers of the video know that?
Guardian on March 3, 2009 at 10:27 PM
I like the way you think! :-)
SouthernGent on March 3, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Murtha needs a blanket party.
BadMojo on March 3, 2009 at 10:29 PM
One of the proudest accomplishments in my life is being a US Marine. I can not express my dislike of this turd.
Wade on March 3, 2009 at 10:32 PM
It is always interesting how civilians (present company excepted) forget that you have to grow soldiers, not mint them after a few weeks training. Senior NCO’s need 10 years to develop into good leaders, officers take even longer.
We can train the Afghan Army all we want but they need leaders to take over for us.
thuljunior on March 3, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Can 600K troops fit on Okinawa?
It's Vintage, Duh on March 3, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Now is the time to recruit and train 500k queer troops that can root out the bad guys in Afghanistan or at least help them pick out better garments. Give them all extra money because well, they’re queer and it’s their “collective” right.
Any ideas on how best to arm them other than hand bags?
larvcom on March 3, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Nah, I’ll save my ammo for the corruption trial.
Dusty on March 3, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Only conservatives can win wars. Liberals just get Americans killed and then they bug out.
I get tired though of hearing how things aren’t solved militarily. EVERYTHING is solved militarily. You kill the other guy and keep on living. This is victory.
I’ll bet Putin is loving this right now.
Mojave Mark on March 3, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Thanks for the input, Mary.
Patrick S on March 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM
I get tired though of hearing how things aren’t solved militarily.
To paraphrase Heinlein, “Ask the city fathers of Carthage if violence never solved anything.”
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Wow, what a guy, more than willing to accuse innocent Marines of murder, surrender at all costs in Iraq and still Murtha has more than enough moronic lunacy left over to turn Afghanistan from a military strategy that needs a measured, intelligent boost into a full blown, neck deep, pissing contest, meat grinder to make Da Nang look like tea and cookies.
Speakup on March 3, 2009 at 10:51 PM
The dems are going big.
getalife on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Please stay on topic, this thread is about Murtha not tax rates.
Bishop on March 3, 2009 at 10:54 PM
As a Marine myself, I reserve the right to trash that sub-human waste of viable organs at any time. Murtha is an ex-Marine, not a Marine. If his sorry ass ever shows his face at a Marine Corps Ball ever again, you’ll find yourself with a room full of people with no Earthly idea where the shot came from.
AP, I wouldn’t go so far as to call them counterparts. We’re talking about two countries that don’t even share a common language, and have entirely different histories and cultures. Whether you’re for or against a continued effort there, that’s a good place to start your consideration.
commenter on March 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Murtha is a fat old buffoon and an idiot. Period.
He may have been a Marine but now he is a political demagogue and a characterization of everything that justifies term limits and prosecution for waste, fraud and abuse of Public Funds.
He brings home the pork in his district so the fools keep re-electing him, like so many others that sit on both sides of the aisles.
I spent 28 years in the Military and will feel free to trash him when I choose. He deserves it and I earned that right.
old trooper2 on March 3, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Ahem. He’s no longer a Marine. And having been either of the above does not make him immune to comment.
And if that stuff is so important, the closest Obama been to being a Marine is to wear the shirt during a pickup game. Oh, I forgot, he became a Jarhead the first time he tried to board Marine One — and it looked like it hurt.
unclesmrgol on March 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Line of the Night
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Now don’t be insulting. I mean what did trash ever do to you. :-)
darktood on March 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM
That is a right to all and it does not have to be earned in any way.
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Not much worse than a military person using their service to silence Americans. Does the military not serve a nation of civlians? It seems somewhat disgusting to me. When I hear or read such attempts I realize that motives are not pure. They may have pretended to join the service for the right reasons but in these cases I know different. Do they not commit to protect Americans and their rights??
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Free speech the last I heard was fairly important.
/sarc
Jamson64 on March 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM
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