Blue Dog revolt in the House?

posted at 12:15 pm on March 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Have conservative Democrats in the House had enough of Deadbeatonomics?  Congressional Quarterly reports that almost 50 members of the Democratic caucus may start blocking key points of the Barack Obama agenda.  Not surprisingly, they hail from districts Obama failed to carry in 2008:

Democratic Reps. Jim Matheson of Utah and Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona have joined a quiet revolt in the House that could slow some of President Obama’s fast-moving priorities.

The two are among 49 Democrats from congressional districts that backed Republican Sen. John McCain ’s 2008 presidential race and whose support for the Democratic majority’s progressive agenda is increasingly not assured.

A dozen of them were among 20 House Democrats who voted against the $410 billion discretionary fiscal 2009 spending package (HR 1105) on Feb. 25. Another group later forced House leaders to sideline a contentious bill (HR 1106) to allow bankruptcy judges to modify home loans.

I wondered when some of these Democrats would remember that they have to get elected in 2010.  I guarantee you that Republicans have not forgotten it.  While the House Republican Caucus would like to partner with the Blue Dogs to take the edge off of Deadbeatonomics, they will certainly get aggressive in conservative districts next year in an attempt to wrest control of the House back from Nancy Pelosi and put an end to the trillion-dollar giveaways of Obama and Tim Geithner.

However, it’s a mistake to think that they will act as a group on all of the agenda points, and that may be a strategy by Pelosi to keep them in the House in 2011.  If a Blue Dog votes for Porkulus but not the omnibus, he can argue that he attempted some fiscal responsibility.  Others may vote for the omnibus but not the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.  Others may vote to raise some taxes and not others.  It’s a game of whack-a-mole that would allow them to claim to support their conservative-minded constituencies while providing no practical obstacle to Obama’s Deadbeatonomics.


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49 is about enough to actually swing the house — they best appoint some informal leadership, pick their battles wisely, and, um, get food tasters [!!]

Buckaroo on March 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM

yeah “good luck with that”…relying on blue-dogs to be anything other than Marxist enablers with fake elephant ears on at election time is what got the moonbats a 54 year uninterrupted run.

back to you Dan

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Awakening

Kini on March 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I wondered when some of these Democrats would remember that they have to get elected in 2010.

About three weeks too late, methinks…

Snowed In on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

yeah “good luck with that”…relying on blue-dogs to be anything other than Marxist enablers with fake elephant ears on at election time is what got the moonbats a 54 year uninterrupted run.

back to you Dan

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Kind of like pumas?

HornetSting on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Hmmm…how long before Pelosi starts cracking down?

MadisonConservative on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

sounds like Ms. Pelosi’s “naughty” list will be getting a lot longer this Summer

DrW on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Quit trying to find ways to partner with the Blue Dogs and start finding ways to unseat them.

vinman on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

It’s OK. Come to the dark side (of personal and economic freedom and liberty), my pretties.

(cackles)

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM

This is where the Republicans can start making the argument that a vote for teh Blue Dog is a vote for Pelosi. While that argument had failed recently, it will have some impact this time around. If the Republicans can win two-thirds of these 49 seats (32 seats) and an additional 8 seats from other districts, that would put them back to the magical number of 218 and control of the House. That is a real possibility in this environment.

RedSoxNation on March 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I think this is about staying in office in 2010 and keeping the majority. Pelosi will let them vote to save their seats.

Can’t trust them, not even the blue dogs.

myrenovations on March 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I have more confidence in the Blue Dogs then I do the RINO’s in congress on fiscal matters. A lot of the Blue Dogs are from the south where being a Democrat in a lot of cases means something far different from the far left San Francisco inspired breed.

Just A Grunt on March 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Bluedogs are far better than liberal democrats but I still don’t trust them any farther than I can throw them. (And with my sore back, I don’t know that I should be throwing anything anyway.)

gmbdds on March 3, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Screw them they didn’t stop the pork (AKA stimulus) bill. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

lanesmerge on March 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Lost cause. vinman’s right.

ElectricPhase on March 3, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Hmmm…how long before Pelosi starts cracking down?

MadisonConservative on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

She’s warming up the whip as we speak.

Be_Aware on March 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM

I made this prediction to my son this morning. Maybe I’m not as out of step as they say I am.

DanMan on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

I read articles like this and observe the behaviour of blue dogs and I seriously wonder how is it that those on the right believe that no Democrats are moderate or compromise on liberal/progressives for electoral expediency. The idea that all Americans, regardless of region, will respond to “pure” ideology over moderated, pragmatic compromises is disproven by the existence of a whole coalition of conservative Democrats who have received support and funds from Pelosi and Reid. Those on the hard right seem to want to sabotage their own party by ignoring the electoral successes of moderate Dems.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

She’s warming up the whip as we speak.

Be_Aware on March 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Whips have been outlawed. They are offensive to some people. Kindly choose another form of torture. Might I suggest Madame Screecher in a tube top?

/sarc

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Blue dog, red state, green energy, black hole, yellow journalism, orange Julius, white racism.

whitetop on March 3, 2009 at 12:29 PM

All that will happen is that enough of them will be allowed to vote for a Bill, in order for it to lose narrowly.

They can shift the numbers around each time.

Then they can go back and lie to their constituents.

All Democrats are incompetent and corrupt and it is pointless to listen to a word they say, as they are liars as well.

Never, ever, never, even think of voting for a member of the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent, Democrat Party.

NoDonkey on March 3, 2009 at 12:29 PM

The idea that all Americans, regardless of region, will respond to “pure” ideology over moderated, pragmatic compromises is disproven by the existence of a whole coalition of conservative Democrats who have received support and funds from Pelosi and Reid. Those on the hard right seem to want to sabotage their own party by ignoring the electoral successes of moderate Dems.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

It’d better help your argument if Pelosi and Reid hadn’t specifically whacked blue-dog Democrats in committee positions in favor of those considered more…ideologically pure?

Skywise on March 3, 2009 at 12:30 PM

It’s a game of whack-a-mole that would allow them to claim to support their conservative-minded constituencies while providing no practical obstacle to Obama’s Deadbeatonomics.

The Blue Dogs could very well be playing this game. But if the Dow keeps tanking, at some point, these Blue Dogs will have to decide whether they want to be standing on the decks of Obama’s Titanic or sitting in a GOP lifeboat.

BuckeyeSam on March 3, 2009 at 12:30 PM

…Those on the hard right …

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

It is trully sad if our society views those that want to defend at adhere to the federal constitution as the “hard right.”

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 12:32 PM

At this point I would applaud a group of Blue Dogs Democrats standing up for American principals against the Obama / Pelosi Democratic Socialist Party. Would I vote for them, probably not, but would it be good news to stop this train wreck, yes.

Badbrucskie on March 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Those on the hard right seem to want to sabotage their own party by ignoring the electoral successes of moderate Dems.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

A socialist lecturing people on what a “moderate” is makes me giggle.

lorien1973 on March 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Calculated by Pelosi and Reid and Axelrod. They’ll vote alternately as needed for them to pass Obama’s agenda, and still be able to claim fiscal responsibility for their campaigns. NOTHING is as it appears with the libs.

marklmail on March 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Quit trying to find ways to partner with the Blue Dogs and start finding ways to unseat them.

vinman on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Except for “wave” elections (e.g., 2008), members of the House are usually unseated only when they decided to retire or when the Grim Reaper calls.

As a rule, the U.S. House has a lower rate of turnover than the British House of Lords.

Moral of the story: Just because a district voted for McCain, it doesn’t follow that you can unseat the incumbent Democratic congressman.

paul006 on March 3, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Ed said:

While the House Republican Caucus would like to partner with the Blue Dogs to take the edge off of Deadbeatonomics, they will certainly get aggressive in conservative districts next year in an attempt to wrest control of the House back from Nancy Pelosi and put an end to the trillion-dollar giveaways of Obama and Tim Geithner.

My advice to the caucus is to give’em the shutout. If the Blue Dog dems want to oppose the Obama plan, they’ll have to do it on their own, in a partisan way. This prevents them from saying they joined other fiscally conservative House members (meaning GOPers) in their re-election bids.

Make’em stand up in front of their constituentcies and say they opposed it. Which they won’t be able to do, because without getting their “conservative for a week” pass from the GOP, they won’t oppose it.

BobMbx on March 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Nancy Pelosi’s been behind the financial destruction of this nation while padding her own private interest. The marsh-mouse episode was just a distraction. The woman is running taxpayers to their death-march. There is NO COMPROMISE in her agenda.

Rovin on March 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Quit trying to find ways to partner with the Blue Dogs and start finding ways to unseat them.

vinman

Offer them Republican nomination in 2010?

Kristopher on March 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Do you actually enjoy the policies of this Congress and Administration? You must cheer everyday the stock market plunges off the cliff, and taking America’s founding principles with it. You hack.

kirkill on March 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I imagine quite a few of them read yesterday they were on Pelosi’s enemies list.

JammieWearingFool on March 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Hmmm…how long before Pelosi starts cracking down?

MadisonConservative on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
She’s warming up the whip as we speak.

Be_Aware on March 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Careful, she might melt….I’m melting…I’m melting….

HornetSting on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Relying on Blue Dogs can’t be any worse than relying on Collins, Snowe, and Specter.

Lehosh on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

All the more important that the ‘mole’ game be exposed and re-exposed. We must be merciless, merciless, forget about playing politics and support what know are the best options for the country. Win or lose, this can never be the wrong thing to do.

jeanie on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

kirkill on March 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM

DTMH, please answer this question. I have wondered this myself.

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Blue Dogs will become lap dogs when Nancy throws them a bone (read earmark). Nothing permanent here.

Fuquay Steve on March 3, 2009 at 12:39 PM

I have more confidence in the Blue Dogs then I do the RINO’s in congress on fiscal matters. A lot of the Blue Dogs are from the south where being a Democrat in a lot of cases means something far different from the far left San Francisco inspired breed.

Just A Grunt on March 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Yeah, it means they have to act like conservatives when they come back to their districts to pander for votes whereas the San Fran types don’t.

I don’t trust a lot of the Blue Dogs. Some of them opposed and voted for the TARP bill right before the election but voted for the porkulus. They’re no better than RINOs.

Lay-Z on March 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM

I wondered when some of these Democrats would remember that they have to get elected in 2010.

You see, thats the entire problem right there in one sentence.

Viper1 on March 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM

er, I meant to say that a lot of blue dogs voted against TARP before elections but voted for the porkulus.

Lay-Z on March 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Who gives a flying fornication what you think, troll?

-Dave

Dave R. on March 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM

DTMH, please answer this question. I have wondered this myself

I would like to hear this answer too, but do not think we will get anything but subterfuge.

jeanie on March 3, 2009 at 12:41 PM

I read articles like this and observe the behaviour of blue dogs and I seriously wonder how is it that those on the right believe that no Democrats are moderate or compromise on liberal/progressives for electoral expediency. The idea that all Americans, regardless of region, will respond to “pure” ideology over moderated, pragmatic compromises is disproven by the existence of a whole coalition of conservative Democrats who have received support and funds from Pelosi and Reid. Those on the hard right seem to want to sabotage their own party by ignoring the electoral successes of moderate Dems.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

That electoral success was won largely by subterfuge. My Congressman claims to be a Blue Dog and ran all kinds of TV ads last fall touting his fiscal conservative record, his support for the police and firefighters, etc. etc. while he goes back to Washington and votes 99% of the time with Nancy Pelosi. He voted for the Porkulus and the 2009 spending bill. He took money from the PMA lobbying firm and got a huge earmark for it. He is a Catholic but said nothing when Obama revoked the Mexico City policy. We are not going to forget this next year.

There have always been conservative Democrats in Congress. But in previous years they did not pretend to be conservatives at election time and then run back to Washington and vote liberal.

rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

The two are among 49 Democrats from congressional districts that backed Republican Sen. John McCain ’s 2008 presidential race and whose support for the Democratic majority’s progressive agenda is increasingly not assured.

When I see or hear the use of “progressive” as a semantic for Socialism, I just want to vomit.

It’s like every other semantic; it is used so as to avoid the truth – while the cattle continue to munch in the fields, waiting for the slaughterhouse trucks to arrive.

That the cattle elected this Socialist shows just how low America has sunk, and how despicable she has become.

I fear that she is lost.

OhEssYouCowboys on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

They better do something! Obama actually just said on TV that “the stock market is kind of like um a tracking poll”… Oh My god!!!

sabbott on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Kind of like pumas?

HornetSting on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Yeah, Pumas. They were not an endangered species, they were extinct. Pumas were a fiction created by the Obama camp.

johnsteele on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

At the current rate of decline, the stock market will disappear before the 2010 elections, and China will have long since run out of money to loan. Additionally, unemployment will be close to 30% at the current rate. How’s that gonna play Dems?

Could it be (dare I wonder) that it’s time to start solving problems rather than creating more by “addressing” them with half-hearted and half-baked ideas?

scottm on March 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM

We need to stop trusting the other side to do anything. My state elected a “blue dog” who has turned out to be as pinko as imaginable. They will say or do anything to continue to be elected, but in the long run, they owe too many on the far left far too many favors. They had a lot of help getting elected and those markers aren’t just called in once. This is just a juggling act to get their “resistance” in the press to help ensure reelection.

Mars Needs Neocons on March 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM

yeah right. where were they a month ago?

patriette on March 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

If a sprinkling of sand can destroy a precision high-priced bearing…then these Blue Dog Democrats can, if they vote their conscience, be of great assistance to destroy parts of the Obama”s “War Communism”*.

A few direct hits on some most favored Dem/Obama spending, and Team Obama will more than likely overreach in order to regain momentum. This is where Obama will be most vulnerable, trying to re-start programs the public will soon realize are nothing but smoke and mirrors…damned expensive smoke and mirrors at that…and those second thoughts on the part of the public and Blue Dog members of Congress will take their toll.

* War Communism (1918-1921) – was a combination of emergency measures and socialist dogma pushed through by Lenin, who seized the opportunity to consolidate Bolshevik gains, and consolidate power around himself.

Whole factories were “given” to the workers, as managers and owners were jailed or forced into exile, Lenin believed workers would work better if they in turn believed they were working for a cause as opposed to a system that made some rich but many poor;

Banking and transport and foreign trade were all nationalized;

State control was to be granted over the labor of every citizen — once the military had served its purpose, it would become a labor army;

Extreme centralization of the entire economy was introduced;

The state attempted to become the sole distributor as well as the sole producer;

The government’s revenue raising ability was chronically poor…nonexistent toward 1920 save for seizures of wealth and property.

War Communism was a total failure. Almost tanked the entire Russian Revolution.

So…if it hasn’t worked before, Mr. President…why would a rational person think it will work this time around?

Good luck, Blue Dog’s…welcome back to reality.

coldwarrior on March 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Obama’s speaking now on Fox and the stock market’s diving back into the negative. If Obama said, “we need to stop spending now and I need to STFU” the market would soar. Instead, he’s hinting about financial welfare for the world markets.

“We (Brown and Obama) in the free market“.????? Now there’s a joke for the day.

Rovin on March 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

DTMH is much like his savior and idol o, he loves being the center of attention. Those saying ignore him are, of course, correct. Sorry for the slip, will try to do better in future.

jeanie on March 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM

I am not holding my breath. Then again, I am mighty pessimistic about everything these days.

HawaiiLwyr on March 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM

The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation. – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

OhEssYouCowboys on March 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM

There have always been conservative Democrats in Congress. But in previous years they did not pretend to be conservatives at election time and then run back to Washington and vote liberal.

rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

To further this statement. Most of Obama’s speeches are laced with conservative ideas. Unfortuantely for America, his actions are the complete opposite.

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Tom Clancy had the right idea in Debt of Honor. We’re still screwed since we don’t have a Jack Ryan.

SeniorD on March 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM

correction:

Obama:

“We (Brown and Obama) believe in the free market”

Rovin on March 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Obama’s speaking now on Fox and the stock market’s diving back into the negative. If Obama said, “we need to stop spending now and I need to STFU” the market would soar. Instead, he’s hinting about financial welfare for the world markets.

“We (Brown and Obama) in the free market“.????? Now there’s a joke for the day.

Rovin on March 3, 2009 at 12:45 PM

WTF is wrong with these people? Can they really be that clueless about what is happening in the markets? Or are they deliberately shooting for Dow 4000?

rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

After they helped pass that idiotic Porkulus, these people are nothing but Yellow Dogs. I wouldn’t look to them for anything. They are cowards with no concern, whatsoever, for the welfare of the United States.

progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

WTF is wrong with these people? Can they really be that clueless about what is happening in the markets? Or are they deliberately shooting for Dow 4000?

rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

For the idiot messiah, it’s all about exacting revenge. Nothing else comes into his pea-brain.

progressoverpeace on March 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM

At this point, I’ll latch on to any ray of hope I can, no matter how faint.

Obama is rapidly leading this country straight down the road to hell. Anything at all that causes a bump in that road is fine by me.

-Dave

Dave R. on March 3, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I have more confidence in the Blue Dogs then I do the RINO’s in congress on fiscal matters. A lot of the Blue Dogs are from the south where being a Democrat in a lot of cases means something far different from the far left San Francisco inspired breed.

Just A Grunt on March 3, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Well said.

For the last few years there had not been a party of fiscal responsibility. Both parties were running and ruling on Social issues, and those differences were the ones dividing the politicians.

I would take a coalition of Blue Dog Dems, and Fiscal Con Reps, over EITHER party right now.

My Party Platform would be simple. Small limited power Federal Government, leave social issues to the States. I think this platform would get HUGE support at the Federal level.

Romeo13 on March 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM

After the Senate finished making fools out of themselves and pushing the Dow from positive to negative, Geithner started testifying in from of the House on the Obama budget. The Dow is not back negative – down 17 points and dropping.

TheBigOldDog on March 3, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Couldn’t they get George Rodrigue to do their logo? As for the Blue Dog Dems, that dog don’t hunt.

Christien on March 3, 2009 at 12:54 PM

…and whose support for the Democratic majority’s progressive socialist/facist agenda is increasingly not assured.

Fixed it.

riverrat10k on March 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM

If Obama said, “we need to stop spending now and I need to STFU” the market would soar.

I disagree.

Only when this guy resigns or is impeached and his entire administration resigns, will the markets recover.

NoDonkey on March 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Or are they deliberately shooting for Dow 4000?

China is in talks to purchase Volvo from Ford. Remember, if these stock prices get low,all of our enemies,domestic and foreign, can effectively seize control of our industries.

GE was selling at $6 and change a few minutes ago. It was, until recently, arguably the world’s preeminent technological concern. Maybe China will buy it tomorrow. Or maybe a Soros controlled company will.

JiangxiDad on March 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM

“Careful, she might melt….I’m melting…I’m melting….”, Hornet that hits home! Anybody see Pelosi at the end of the State of the Union the other night? All that hopping up and down with Biden had her wiping make-up. My wife was cracking up with the “I’m melting” from the Wizard of Oz.

DanMan on March 3, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

crazy_legs on March 3, 2009 at 1:01 PM

JiangxiDad on March 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM

If Social Security had been privatized many years ago, we (the USA) could have done this. And boy would that have pissed-off the rest of the world.

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Aw… man, why’d you go and say that?

crazy_legs on March 3, 2009 at 1:01 PM

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 1:01 PM

If, if ,if…

JiangxiDad on March 3, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Could it be (dare I wonder) that it’s time to start solving problems rather than creating more by “addressing” them with half-hearted and half-baked ideas?

scottm on March 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM

There’s nothing half-hearted about Obama’s spending.

Immolate on March 3, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Or are they deliberately shooting for Dow 4000?

rockmom on March 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Precedent Obortion’s economic motto: The Ditch is the Limit

thomasaur on March 3, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Quit trying to find ways to partner with the Blue Dogs and start finding ways to unseat them.

vinman on March 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM

+1 you get it…

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Nancy Pelosi’s been behind the financial destruction of this nation while padding her own private interest. The marsh-mouse episode was just a distraction. The woman is running taxpayers to their death-march.

There is NO COMPROMISE in her agenda.

Rovin on March 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

You are right.

There is no compromise in the Soros driven lefts agenda. Though he has been relatively content to hide in the dark shadows Soros’ egomania will soon drive him into the spotlight to claim his victory over the Constitution.

Soros, Obama and the lefts millions of mouth breathing slack jawed blood thirsty goons will find happiness and victory in creating and sustaining misery for all of us.

We need to stop trusting the other side to do anything. My state elected a “blue dog” who has turned out to be as pinko as imaginable. They will say or do anything to continue to be elected, but in the long run, they owe too many on the far left far too many favors. They had a lot of help getting elected and those markers aren’t just called in once. This is just a juggling act to get their “resistance” in the press to help ensure reelection.

Mars Needs Neocons on March 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Amen. Conservatives need to face reality. We are going to have to take back this party. On our own.

kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Gabrielle Giffords is my congresswoman. She voted for the “stimulus” bill, despite the pleas of many of her constituents (myself included) that she vote against it. After voting for it, she held some “town hall” meetings here in the district, one of which I attended. It was clear from the comments and tone of most of the voters in attendance that she has angered much of her constituency here. I suspect what she’s doing now is an attempt at damage control.

AZCoyote on March 3, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Vote them out and put in (non-liberal) Republicans.

albill on March 3, 2009 at 1:13 PM

kooziegirl on March 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Agreed. Thank you.

Mars Needs Neocons on March 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM

* War Communism (1918-1921) – was a combination of emergency measures and socialist dogma pushed through by Lenin, who seized the opportunity to consolidate Bolshevik gains, and consolidate power around himself.

Whole factories were “given” to the workers, as managers and owners were jailed or forced into exile, Lenin believed workers would work better if they in turn believed they were working for a cause as opposed to a system that made some rich but many poor;

Banking and transport and foreign trade were all nationalized;

State control was to be granted over the labor of every citizen — once the military had served its purpose, it would become a labor army;

Extreme centralization of the entire economy was introduced;

The state attempted to become the sole distributor as well as the sole producer;

The government’s revenue raising ability was chronically poor…nonexistent toward 1920 save for seizures of wealth and property.

War Communism was a total failure. Almost tanked the entire Russian Revolution.

Thank you for this Cold Warrior, The similarities are perfect. Even down to humiliating executives for personal spending (like redecorating their offices) and Banking (30% ownership in 35 days), Transport (Commandments to Automobile manufactures and the “Auto Czar”) and now foreign trade, (within a global welfare/global Warming system).

And we haven’t even seen the Civilian National Security Force yet. That’s next month. I do not think the U.S.A. has the wealth to take this for four years.

GunRunner on March 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM

You’re dreaming if you think the Blue Dogs are going to stand up for themselves. They are the very definition of beta males.

joe_doufu on March 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM

GunRunner on March 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Both you and Cold Warrior have hit it on the head. I myself am a litte frightened about the concept of his brownshirts Civilian Security Force. I’m sure it will be filled with those charming people who went out during the election season vandalizing, attacking, and sabotaging anyone who disagreed with them.

Mars Needs Neocons on March 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM

You’re dreaming if you think the Blue Dogs are going to stand up for themselves. They are the very definition of beta males.

joe_doufu on March 3, 2009 at 1:16 PM

I don’t care what color they are, they’ll still cower to their masters. (i.e. Stretch and Pinky)

thomasaur on March 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM

kirkill on March 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM

DTMH, please answer this question. I have wondered this myself.

WashJeff on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM

A relative of mine is married to someone pretty high up at Morgan Stanley and she told us during the Holidays that the market would start to plummet around February and March when investment banks would start posting quarter loesses. And so it has. I suspect it would be doing the same under McCain-Palin. I’m not HAPPY that parents of friends are getting panicky about retirement (my folks followed her advice and got out of the market quickly). But I don’t think it’s the result of Obama’s policies as I have stated many times before.

I DO think that this is a more effective political meme for your side and I don’t begrudge you running with it, but that’s all it is. The market was due for a tumble because its most powerful institutions were compromised.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 1:26 PM

hat the market would start to plummet around February and March when investment banks would start posting quarter loesses. And so it has. I suspect it would be doing the same under McCain-Palin.

Bull.

McCain-Palin would not have passed a bill that spent trillions on payoffs to Democrat donors, worthless social programs and programs to pay off the mortgages of deadbeats.

McCain-Palin would not have demonized productive people and shoveled money at layabout losers who contribute nothing to this country other than a reliable vote for Democrats on election day.

Obama-Mugabe is the source and the cause of our economic woes. The sooner this idiot is either removed from office or rendered completely irrelevant, the sooner our economic recovery begins.

NoDonkey on March 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM

If Steele were doing his job, these blu-dogs would be first on his target list, not Rush.

tarpon on March 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM

I DO think that this is a more effective political meme for your side and I don’t begrudge you running with it, but that’s all it is. The market was due for a tumble because its most powerful institutions were compromised.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 1:26 PM

quite the contrary the market demonstrably starts to tank within 5-15 minutes of Chicago Jesus opening his mouth every day….

I have won several bar bets about timing and depth of market falls when we are “graced” with one of his do better and hope sessions…

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 1:39 PM

If Steele were doing his job, these blu-dogs would be first on his target list, not Rush.

tarpon on March 3, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Steele IS doing his job, he is a RiNO out to secure power for the New England moonbat establishment.

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Politics as usual.

getalife on March 3, 2009 at 1:40 PM

You should read all the gop earmarks in that spending bill.

The leader in pork is gop Mississippi.

Fiscal cons should write them.

getalife on March 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

The leader in pork is gop Mississippi.

Fiscal cons should write them.

getalife on March 3, 2009 at 1:42 PM

You seem to be laboring under the impression that anyone here is saying that either party’s hands are clean with regards to the pork cannon….that said nobody matches the donks in their desire for the pork cannon to be en perpetual…

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM

quite the contrary the market demonstrably starts to tank within 5-15 minutes of Chicago Jesus opening his mouth every day….

Exactly – the markets crave stability and what we have in the White House is a guy anyone with any sense at all knows, is completely in over his head in this job.

Every single economic “idea” coming from the Obama administration is a HISTORICALLY PROVEN FAILURE.

Who is going to invest a dime in that climate?

NoDonkey on March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I read articles like this and observe the behaviour of blue dogs and I seriously wonder how is it that those on the right believe that no Democrats are moderate or compromise on liberal/progressives for electoral expediency. The idea that all Americans, regardless of region, will respond to “pure” ideology over moderated, pragmatic compromises is disproven by the existence of a whole coalition of conservative Democrats who have received support and funds from Pelosi and Reid. Those on the hard right seem to want to sabotage their own party by ignoring the electoral successes of moderate Dems.

DeathToMediaHacks on March 3, 2009 at 12:27 PM

No…. They won by LYING as typical radicals do… The Blue Dogs lied to their voters that they would be for SMALLER, LESS Government… THEY LIED if they vote for EITHER Porkulous or The Messiahs 8000 pork laden Budget…

So if lying is what got em there, their lies and the facts of destruction will be their undoing…

REAL Conservatives will sweep in, as before…

White people, earners, workers, tax payers of all classes will FLOCK to Conservative views and policies, as they did during the Contract for America… As America dies, revolt will pull all the affected and infected back to core values.

Mark Garnett on March 3, 2009 at 1:52 PM

sven10077 on March 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Sure but cons are now new fiscal cons after w.

Write them.

getalife on March 3, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Republicans should be challenging EVERY elected Democrat official. Local, State, Federal. No exemptions, no more free rides. 50 state strategy. If you fight, you’ll win.

Iblis on March 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Republican or Democrat. House or Senate. The thing that is going to save this nation from the filthy liar’s far left agenda is UNRELENTING pressure on those in office. Complacency and silence is tantamount to handing the filthy liar and his corrupt party a win.

highhopes on March 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM

They better do something! Obama actually just said on TV that “the stock market is kind of like um a tracking poll”… Oh My god!!!

sabbott on March 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Yeah, I’m waiting on that thread; I’m soooooo glad Obama enjoys likening Americans 401k’s and other investments as a little polling problem. I hate him more and more every day.

anniekc on March 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM

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