Video: Teen girl roughed up by cop describes beating
posted at 8:45 pm on March 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
A follow-up to yesterday’s megathread and poll. As of this writing, 48 percent of you want the cop canned and prosecuted, another 18 percent will be satisfied if he’s kicked off the force. I’m mystified as to why CBS thinks it’s relevant whether the shoe hit the cop or not; Calhoun insists that it didn’t, but the hallway surveillance cam seems to show it glancing off his hand. Who cares, though? Nothing would justify punching a teen girl in the back of the head when she’s on the floor, let alone having her Converse bounce off your wrist. Throw the book at him. Click the image to watch.
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kanda,
I read the same thing when the video came out. It seems that she was actually living in the house of the car owner.
ujorge on March 2, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Uh, yeah. She was arrested on 11/29/08. What’s your point? And I didn’t say she was charged with a felony. So, again, what’s your point? I think you need a map.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Oh, please. The child is nothing if not a product of her up-bringing. Her parents quite obviously did not do a good job with her. And this has absolutely nothing to do with “a teen whos parents were killed and she is all alone.” That’s offensive.
You, “my friend,” are part of the problem. You do no one any favors by promoting the “victim” mentality.
califcon on March 2, 2009 at 11:00 PM
What crimes which never happened? She’s caught IN HER OWN PARENTS’ CAR and HER PARENTS HAD REPORTED SAID CAR AS STOLEN. That certainly a crime. Doesn’t matter whether she was in the passenger seat or the drivers’ seat — she was in possession of a stolen vehicle. You are welcome to infer that the driver hot-wired the vehicle, but I’m inferring that there’s a key involved and she was the one who obtained the key.
Read the Seattle PI (secondary source) story more carefully; every other news agency is quoting the PI on this, and doesn’t seem to have anything more than the PI does.
Second, we can see in the video that she kicks off shoe hard and it goes through the door. Given that both deputies were in the doorway, it’s improbable that the shoe missed striking one or both, and, even if it did, assault is an attempt to strike someone else, even if the attempt fails. Battery is when you actually hit the person, so, at a minimum, we are looking at assault. We would know better if the hall video was presented, but we only have the cell video to go on.
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unclesmrgol on March 2, 2009 at 11:04 PM
The car’s owners were her parents, according to the Seattle PI.
We can certainly assume she was a discipline problem, but the “shacking up” part I think is a bit wrong (unless the PI was wrong about who owned the stolen vehicle).
unclesmrgol on March 2, 2009 at 11:06 PM
She said on the tape that it was her friend’s mother’s car. I think she initially told the police that they were her parents, which accounts for the confusion.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Well, you said “she was arrested on Saturday” and I just mean to clarify that she was actually arrested last November.
I didn’t say you did, I’m pointing out that I haven’t found anything regarding charges filed against her.
ujorge on March 2, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Folks, I’m reading this with some interest. I see all your points to this arguments from the right and left. Look at this this way…all these arguments and positions are what a cop deals with EVERYDAY. I do not condone his actions. However, this situation is the culmination of the screwed up family of this girl, the screwed up girl and her friend’s decision to go joyriding in a car that they should not have been in, and felt thst she’s not at fault and a cop who lost his self control. EVERYONE looses in this. This is a product of a kid (yes, she’s still a kid) who has never been taught that for any action you take or decision you make, there are consequences. ‘night all, keep well.
ChicagoBlues on March 2, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Okay, so if the girl struck the officer with her shoe, then she could be prosecuted under RCW 9A.36.031, Assault in the third degree. However, per the definition, a person is guilty of assault in the third degree if he or she, under circumstances not amounting to assault in the first or second degree:
(a) With intent to prevent or resist the execution of any lawful process or mandate of any court officer or the lawful apprehension or detention of himself or another person, assaults another
per the RCW.
However, there is the question of intent; the prosecution would need to show that the girl intended to kick her shoe at the officer as a means of resisting. Assault in the 3rd degree is a Class C felony. If that proved too much, they could go with Assault in the 4th degree (Simple assault) which is a gross misdemeanor.
As for the car theft, the thief (her friend) could have been charged under RCW 9A.56.075, Taking motor vehicle without permission in the second degree. The girl who was beaten (Malika) could only have been charged with RCW 9A.28.040, Criminal conspiracy, if it could be shown that she acted with intent to perform the commision of the car theft and took steps in furtherance of that act.
flashoverride on March 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM
found more about this here. It looks like she was actually charged:
ujorge on March 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/402005_schene03.html?source=rss
The story is poorly written. It seems to say that the car belonged to a third girl that was not with them. And that she lived with the third girl’s family who reported the car stolen.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM
It strikes me (pun intended) that perhaps the biggest mistake is that the officer did not hit her hard enough..
She got caught commiting a crime, and descided that she could “mouth off”, and assault the officer. All she had to do was comply and there would be no escalation.
I guess she and her parents feel that she can “mouth off”, as a “right”..
Payback’s a bitch.
dugbru on March 2, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Mommy was probably at home sick with worry — her car stolen and her daughter out during hours she should be home asleep.
My 15-year old sister did this to my mother — took all the money in the house, ran away from home, totally disappeared for a month. Didn’t like the 9PM curfew, wanted to be with her friends. My mother was sick with worry — crying constantly, unable to eat… Finally one of my sister’s friends from the next block over took pity and gave away my sister’s location — “shacked up” with a 24 year old guy less than a block away on our own street. Needless to say, my father paid the guy a polite “2nd amendment” visit, retrieved my sister, informed the guy as to what would happen if his pickup truck was ever seen anywhere on the block, and the guy completely vacated his house the following day.
I had never seen my father that way; gave me quite a bit of respect.
unclesmrgol on March 2, 2009 at 11:19 PM
The police officer was way too hard on her. She needed to have a wake-up call, but that was too much. I think pinning her against a wall or on the floor without all the hair pulling and punching would have been appropriate.
By the way, the 15-yr-old girl responded to Connie’s question about the shoe hitting the officer “it didn’t even hit him… I was inside the room and he was out holding the door and the shoe didn’t even hit him” was rediculous. Way to challenge, Connie! The video clearly shows the shoe hitting the officer’s leg.
CLaFarge on March 2, 2009 at 11:20 PM
No. I already explained it once and gave you the code section as to the car theft. Look it up.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Here a clue for you. When you paint people with a broad brush and use terms like “we”, “Parents” and you make ignorant statements like I highlight below I can only assume you are some pompous unfeeling judgemental naive person. I ask you again Ever try to deal with an out of control teen? Ever try to deal with a teen who got into drugs and went to instant doo doo? Ever try to deal with a teen who is rebellious because a teacher made her life miserable? Ever try to deal with a teen whos parents were killed and she is all alone? You ever try to get a 16 year old teen under control throught the court system? I didn’t think so. Life…it’s about real people with real problems.
Below is where you condemn the parents and hold them in comtempt along with the child without any knowledge of the situation and make the blanket statement about upbringing. You should look at yourself and think if you were brought up to condem all others because of their upbringing. Who died and made you God? Go pester someone else with you hatred of people. I’m not too thrilled with your blind hate. It disgusts me.
The reason I asked you is because I have dealt with all of those situations and it is not black and white like you paint it. Upbringing certainly can be a possiblity but you condemn on the assumption in all cases as you wrote when you said ” aren’t we all”. The answer is not. You are just ignorant if you believe other wise. What is your solution to the upbringing issue? State run
hitler youthcamp?kanda on March 2, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Okay.
Okay, again.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. Not parents car. Not living with parents.
One hopes she learns from all this and reknits the family ties.
unclesmrgol on March 2, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Man, gotta love those journalists.
If Malika took the car without permission, then she could be charged under the above statute. However, it’s still not clear if she was driving the vehicle or not. If the two girls that were detained conspired to commit the act, then they are both culpable, but I’m not sure that the charges apply evenly.
None of this justifies the assault.
flashoverride on March 2, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I feel for you. It’s a horrible terror when a teen acts out like that. Your parents situation is an all too common occurance. Today it is magnified by easy access to the internet and the pervs who prey on children and teens. Believe it or not your dad was fortunate to find her alive. Many others are not so lucky.
kanda on March 2, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Yeah, the cop was wrong to punch her with his fists, no question about it. So discipline him. But all the ‘sensitive’ aw gee poor lil sweetheart stuff making her into some kind of victim is wrong as well. She broke the law, then she was mouthing off to the cop, then she assaulted him. Why make her into anything other than the POS she seems to be in the first place?
I hope they ‘throw the book’ at her as well.
DaMav on March 2, 2009 at 11:29 PM
No one mention she was driving without a license and the other girl may have a license. But again, she would not be charged with car theft under conspiracy but as an accomplice. It means she is just as culpable for the car theft as the driver of the stolen vehicle.
Blake on March 2, 2009 at 11:31 PM
OT but related:
An American high-school teacher in Vienna named Mike Brennan was shoved out of a subway car at a stop, savagely beaten and injured by undercover Austrian cops. Among the injuries are a fractured vertebra, back & leg damage, pain, difficulty walking, … I believe he has been hospitalized a 2nd time due to the injuries.
The attack happened over two weeks ago and no apologies have been forthcoming. The undercover cops did not identify themselves as police officers. During the beating Mike tried to identify himself as an American citizen and a teacher at Vienna International School (VIS) but was dismissed (with the comment, overheard by a witness, “they always say that…”).
Of course, Mike happens to be black.
This hasn’t gone viral yet, but it probably will. A preliminary report was filed by Associated Press and was picked up in several newspapers shortly after it happened, but the story’s not over yet.
Most significantly, the police department has been attempting to downplay the extent of his injuries, and now has hinted they may try to pursue an arrest warrant for resisting police (though according to witnesses, once the cops identified themselves as police officers, the resistance stopped).
Big obvious difference here: The American schoolteacher was a law-abiding citizen, snatched at random and assaulted by thugs.
In any case: help would be greatly appreciated. AP & Ed, in case you don’t happen to read this comment I may send you a TIP with more information. Ditto to the boss.
To top it off, Mike’s well-meaning friends and colleagues are trying to get some support from over here; but without much information to go on, they have are trying to reach out to Roland Burris and Jon Conyers, of all people. I’d like to give them some more options if that’s possible, for obvious reasons. The last thing that’s good for him is for race-hustlers to define this narrowly when it’s an issue that affects all Americans working and traveling to Austria.
I’ve already passed on some helpful information so they can locate his congressman/woman + senators. FWIW he’s from Jacksonville, FL.
What do you all think?
—-
TV report + interview (German / English mixed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTNDJthfA_4
Justice for Mike Brennan
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=68217516717
http://justiceformikebrennan.blogspot.com/
RD on March 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM
“Joyriding”? Where is that in the RCW? There is no such charge, nor is there a Grand Theft Auto. The criminal code is Chapter 9A RCW. Chapter 9A.56 RCW is Theft and Robbery. 9A.56.065 is Theft of a motor vehicle. 9A.56.068 is Possession of stolen vehicle. 9A.56.070 is Taking motor vehicle without permission in the first degree, and 9A.56.075 is Taking motor vehicle in the second degree.
You had a point with the 9A.08.020, but then you quoted two charges that aren’t defined in the RCW, nor the King County Code, nor the Seattle Municipal Code.
flashoverride on March 2, 2009 at 11:44 PM
If you think you’re protected because you’re white, Asian, Jewish, …, think again. The Austrians are good at telling their own citizens from foreigners. In fact, they excel at it.
RD on March 2, 2009 at 11:45 PM
“We used it without permission” That’s stealing, you dumb crack-head. I know this is not popular but for Christ’s sake. That officer did what I would do as a parent if my daughter was caught stealing a car. Wake the fu%k up America! Drop-kick that kid, apologize to the owners and get on with the task of raising that girl the right way. BTW, officer, thank you.
Claypigeon on March 2, 2009 at 11:59 PM
This thug chick is full of crap! She’s a smart-ass hoodlum! Smack her around again, she needs it from the dad too!!!!
RealDemocrat on March 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM
From what this looks like, both people are at fault here. The cop should be fired for excessive force. However, this teenager appears to have issues of her own that require some strong action as well. She shouldn’t be treated as purely a victim given the attitude exhibited.
AZfederalist on March 3, 2009 at 12:31 AM
She is a young idiot. The police did the rearing her parents neglected because they, the parents, were weak. The police should go beat up the parents as well.
2Tru2Tru on March 3, 2009 at 12:32 AM
I have ZERO sympathy for this girl.
Ugly on March 3, 2009 at 12:51 AM
Last I checked the River of Tears wasn’t anywhere near flood stage. Look at the bright side, she’ll get a million from the city and another million from Oprah. Then she’ll redistribute it within twelve months.
Limerick on March 3, 2009 at 1:08 AM
BUT SHE STARTED IT….!
apco on March 3, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Kicking her shoes off is similar to my daughter stomping up the stairs and slamming her door, common, immature, teenage behavior. If the cop can’t handle that without beating the crap out of her, then he has no business being a cop.
What a big man, beating up an un-armed girl with another cop in the room.
Kids do stupid things, they don’t deserve to be beaten by cops. And now, because of the out-of-control cop, this girl won’t learn from her mistakes.
Common Sense on March 3, 2009 at 1:22 AM
You’re map fails, because you are assuming she is smart enough to have known that was a “money making opportunity” and decided to let it pass.
She is 16 and I doubt that bright, therefore she probably had the typical public education. This means she is dumb as rocks and will be a burden on society. Her recent episode where she had to go to a detention center is just the prologue.
When it came out, she obviously had a number of people who are much more in-tune with milking the taxpayers (read trial lawyers) tell her of her ability to earn enough money to live like Rhianna (after all, she got beat like her) for at least a couple of weeks (come on, you think she has the intelligence to set up a trust fund for herself to make the money last?).
Reminds me of my friend’s neighbor. He was at a party when he was 19. Someone pulled a gun on a cop and the cop returned fire. He was hit. He received a 200,000 dollar pain and suffering settlement after the medical bills were paid. He decided to spend his money on a 50K+ Cadillac SUV and rims.
A year later, and 300+ parties later he was broke. His SUV got impounded for lack of insurance. I would put even money that she will do the same damn thing, which points to the fact in the last paragraph of my last post. She didn’t learn a damn thing from that beating.
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 1:39 AM
Both her and the officer belong in prison.
Kini on March 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Exactly, this is my theory:
If you parents spank you as children, they can spread the beatings out enough that never a mark gets left, yet you learn everything you would generally learn from a major ass whipping.
Now, if your parent coddle you and never spank you, each time you deserve a beating for your behavior, yet don’t receive one, the beating goes into a pool. Now those missed beatings will continue to collect in that pool and they will collect with interest. Then one day, someone will decide to do the job that your parents neglected. They will beat you, and according to how full the pool of ass whippings is, you will received the exact amount of beatings, plus interest, all at the EXACT SAME TIME.
Moral of the theory? It is better your parents beat you a little bit spread out of a number of years, so you become well adjusted. Woe the child who never receives a beating, because when that time comes to collect on each of those missed beatings, it will be with loan shark style interest.
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 1:46 AM
That’s right, they do.
Let me tell you a story (it won’t take long). When I was 16 (1981) I busted some windows. The cops that arrested me were cool. No abuse. When arrested, I was assigned a lawyer. Court appointed. The lawyer assured me & my folks that since it was my first offense, being sentenced to jail was unlikely. In fact, impossible. Be prepared for probation, he said.
I got 6 months in county, and got out well before my 18th birthday, which I spent at a Scorpions concert (that’s another story).
During my incarceration, I had to fight like I’d never fought before. And for reason’s I’d never considered. It changed me. It fucked me up, in some ways. But I learned from it.
I never got an interview. And Allahpundit wouldn’t have posted it if I had ;)
Ugly on March 3, 2009 at 1:54 AM
That’s a good point-because of all the sympathy she’ll garner and possibly $ it just reinforces the path she’s on.
Had to laugh about how the cop was disrespecting her. That’s the way a lot of these teens are. They feel ‘disrespected’ if an authority figure like a teacher or whatever tells them ‘no’ or calls them on their anti-social behavior, and they feel their rights have been violated. In the meantime, they crap on everyone else at will and feel entitled to whatever they desire.
Still, a lot of these cops are pretty anti-social themselves. Don’t know if it’s their actual nature or if it’s the stress in their profession.
Dr. ZhivBlago on March 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM
I always thought it was a real dis-service to not raise a child correctly, because any lesson the parent fails to administer the world will later, except the world has no love for the child so the lesson will be very harsh.
DFCtomm on March 3, 2009 at 3:04 AM
This whole thing is between some angsty teenaged female ghetto car thief, a solitary Deputy, his employer, and the D.A.’s office… in a solitary county in the State of Washington.
Why this has ANY relevence from coast-to-coast, or anywhere else in the world, is a mystery to me. Cops are here to stay. Forever. Period. They are domestic ‘soldiers’, if you will. And like interwebs bloggers, news anchors, Military Soldiers, firefighters, federal officers, doctors, lawyers etc ad nauseum and then some, whom perform public services, there are bad apples to be found. Are there days of threads and discussions about any of those bad apples? No. Are those bad apples indicative of an entire profession? Hell no.
So, for example, what’s so special about cops that they warrant days of dragged out discussions and venomous hate around here when the same kind of treatment, and much much worse, at the hands of our soldiers occupying foreign lands is never mentioned? That is, never mentioned unless it is false or so outlandish that it is automatically assumed to be false.
SilverStar830 on March 3, 2009 at 3:16 AM
i live in washington state, just another foul mouthed smartazzzed teenager, i believe she got what she deserved..bet she won’t be so quick to smart off again…i say give the cop a raise….
AMERICAN VETERAN on March 3, 2009 at 3:26 AM
Let me guess, boot camp taught you that life lesson, right?
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 3:38 AM
Let ME guess: You’ve never been a cop.
Automatic defense of this BRAT…. while condemning the cops is bizarre.
And what is your problem with boot camp?
Ugly on March 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM
“From what this looks like, both people are at fault here. The cop should be fired for excessive force. However, this teenager appears to have issues of her own that require some strong action as well. She shouldn’t be treated as purely a victim given the attitude exhibited.”
I want the State determining victimhood.
“She is a young idiot. The police did the rearing her parents neglected because they, the parents, were weak. The police should go beat up the parents as well.”
The State should raise the young because the parents are unfit, and it should be up to the state to determine their unfittingness as parents.
“Both her and the officer belong in prison.”
Because they both commited the same nature and level of offense.
“Had to laugh about how the cop was disrespecting her. That’s the way a lot of these teens are. They feel ‘disrespected’ if an authority figure like a teacher or whatever tells them ‘no’ or calls them on their anti-social behavior, and they feel their rights have been violated. In the meantime, they crap on everyone else at will and feel entitled to whatever they desire.”
Because NO ONE has the right to not be on the recieving end of a savage beating from an out of control asshole hiding behind a badge.
“This whole thing is between some angsty teenaged female ghetto car thief, a solitary Deputy, his employer, and the D.A.’s office… in a solitary county in the State of Washington.”
Because the county and state have NO liability for those wearing their uniform and enforcing their laws. And no actual US citizens live in Washington state.
“So, for example, what’s so special about cops that they warrant days of dragged out discussions and venomous hate around here when the same kind of treatment, and much much worse, at the hands of our soldiers occupying foreign lands is never mentioned? That is, never mentioned unless it is false or so outlandish that it is automatically assumed to be false.”
Because the MILITARY and the POLICE are not different. Posse Comitatus is just some bullshiznit anyways.
“I live in washington state, just another foul mouthed smartazzzed teenager, i believe she got what she deserved..bet she won’t be so quick to smart off again…i say give the cop a raise”
Because when someone beats me for mouthing off at Obama, I will totally disavow the first amendment and take my beating in silence.
“Let ME guess: You’ve never been a cop.
Automatic defense of this BRAT…. while condemning the cops is bizarre.
And what is your problem with boot camp?”
Because no American would ever presume innocence before guilt, and no one should ever question authority regardless of who’s in charge.
flashoverride on March 3, 2009 at 5:10 AM
OK, a few things here…
1. Cop was wrong, probably criminally wrong.
2. What the cop did doesn’t let the kid off the hook.
3. As a result of the cop’s actions, the girl moves from the perp to the victim column and she doesn’t learn anything.
I hope she sues, wins and is awarded a penny, which is probably the only way she’ll learn that that there are consequences for her actions.
And for all of you saying the cop was right, she had it coming to her, etc., I hope you’ll stop and think about what damage these incidents do to the perception of law enforcement. Just consider for a moment that this kind of thing could just as easily have happened to someone who was mistakenly arrested.
flipflop on March 3, 2009 at 6:59 AM
Well, you don’t have one. First, it wasn’t a point, it was a fact. Second, 075 is joyriding, 065 is gta, 070 is aimed at professional car thieves and chop shops. Third, no one is really interested in the section numbers of the Wash. State penal code. They are meaningless to people who don’t live there and/or do not practice law. GTA and joyriding are terms that have been around long before you were born and will be used long after you are dead. Get use to it.
Blake on March 3, 2009 at 7:19 AM
Discipline the officer, throw the book at the girl!
Car theft is an enormous problem in Seattle, thanks to liberals who let it go virtually unpunished. Little miss pleated-white business shirt stole the car and was mouthing off to cops the whole time.
He should get anger management classes, she should get boot camp.
American Elephant on March 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM
She doesn’t look like she was “beat up” too bad. Getting ready to milk the system, I presume?
hopefloats on March 3, 2009 at 7:45 AM
She wouldn’t have been there if her parents beat her ass in the first place. My gut tells me she’ll be back there in jail shortly.
Static on March 3, 2009 at 8:01 AM
Sorry, she was in custody by the police, you sit down and shut up and do what you are told…she is not an angel, she is a punk kid, that will now be used as a puppet then forgotten and discarded, damaged goods.
You are dealing with a group of people who have an extraordinary amount of illiteracy, drop out, single mothers, drug addiction, unemployment, felony convictions, violence in the home and streets…and you are worried that a policeman “stepped over the line”.
His kind of action could save her from a lifetime of poverty…now she will be used by the “black” community, and paraded around, and be honored for standing up against the “man”.
Just take the policeman, suspend him for 30 days, send to some classes, and move on.
right2bright on March 3, 2009 at 8:11 AM
The officer should not have beaten her, just upgrade
her already criminal charges to assault on a peace officer.
gary on March 3, 2009 at 8:15 AM
I don’t care if this girl is a bank robber. NO cop, for any reason, EVER get’s to do what he did to a woman or girl! Let this prick try this on me and although I would surely have been subdued, he would have come out of the encounter hurting! I personally would not have ended up in jail for a crime, and I would not have thrown a shoe at a cop, but we all know people who have been arrested for doing nothing. And we know cops who are idiots and this guy is a moron who should be fired and sued!
This is America not North Korea!
sabbott on March 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Follow up:
Malika this will never happen to anyone else, if no one “borrows” a car without permission.
If one of my kids was in that video, I would have taken the cop out for coffee and apologized.
No harm, no foul…
My kids now…just fine thank you, general counsel to one of the largest sports teams in the U.S., and the other the general counsel to a fortune 100 company.
They knew what discipline was, and accountability…if they did wrong, they faced the consequences, I would have been with them, but they knew they would have to “own up”.
right2bright on March 3, 2009 at 8:19 AM
The more I think about it, the worse it seems. This idiot couldn’t keep his cool, and because it is on tape and released to the world now he has to take a fall.
I don’t know if she is suing, maybe she wasn’t before, but I’m sure the vermin have been knocking down her door looking to represent her in a civil case. If she gets one dime, you’re going to have a lot more people acting up, knowing that they are on tape. You might have that now with people just looking for a chance to get their 15 minutes.
He needs to be gone. Anyone who handles himself that poorly doesn’t need to be put into a real high stress situation.
Face it, he just made life more difficult for a lot of other cops out there.
reaganaut on March 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM
The perp should be prosecuted. The assistant should be fired. No excuses. They have amply demonstrated they to NOT have the temperament to be peace officers.
Skywatcher44 on March 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM
I’m really amazed at some of the responses I’ve been reading to this video. Yes, the girl is probably a little bitch. I personally with kids like this. I’ve been sworn at, called every name in the book and the list goes on. If you are a professional, you know that the best thing you can do is to walk away. SHE FLIPPED HER FRIGGIN’ SHOE AT HIM??? ARE YOU KIDDING? Hey, here’s an alternative. Slam the damn door on her and walk away! In the business nowadays, that is working with messed up kids who piss you off on a regular basis, if you so much as touch them wrong, you can be fired. And do you know why that is? It’s because of assholes like that cop who’s pride and manhood was challenged and was going to show that little punk a lesson. Bullshit.
fatharry1 on March 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM
Cop guilty if I’m on jury… Fired and mandated anger-managment with a defered adjudication sentence.
Punk girl guilty if I’m on jury… Juvie Jail time and fines. Record closed at 18…
Parents of puck… Kicked in groin / smacked around…
Mark Garnett on March 3, 2009 at 9:31 AM
Payback’s a bitch.
dugbru on March 2, 2009 at 11:19 PM
I totally agree with you dugbru… sadly, her payback will probably be in at least the high 6 figures. She and her idiot friends will be driving in style in their new Lexus…
max1 on March 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM
When it comes to physical discipline and my children, only my husband and I are to ever lay a finger on our children. I spank my child, it’s discipline; you hit my child, it’s assault.
And I do spank my children… and my 6yo still talks back occasionally, or throws her stuffed animals around. Does it mean I’m not disciplining her enough? No, it means she’s an independent person from me, and she seeks to rebel because she can. I was that way too, even as a teen – my mother and her partner were very strict, and I snuck out and subverted them all the time, to try to escape. I just never got caught.
I don’t ascribe this child’s behaviour to bad parenting, but rather to her own choices. And yes, she should get punished for the car incident – that was a bad choice. She should have been appropriately punished for the shoe flinging too… getting hit by a grown man that was not her father was entirely inappropriate. He may have a badge and a gun, but if he’s so quick on with his temper that he proceeds to beat the snot out of a detained (minor) suspect, he is no Law Enforcement Officer. He’s just a bully pretending to be one.
Anna on March 3, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Mark Twain
“When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he’d learned in seven years.”
Johan Klaus on March 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM
“Mah baybee din’t do nuffin!”
pseudonominus on March 3, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Well, after seeing this little snot the beating makes sense.
Crab Pot on March 3, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Thank you for postng the most intelligent, logical, and rational post in this thread. I am amazed at some of the ignorant people with high and mighty attitudes here. They know it all. All I can say is they will most likely learn one day how wrong they are. I fate and teens have a way of making things happen.
Kudos on a great post.
kanda on March 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM
You mustn’t have read my posts. So go back and read the previous posts, especially about my theory and then we can have a conversation.
Hint: I didn’t defend her in anyway, shape, or form.
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM
By the way, the response to you had to do with my “theory”.
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Oh, now I understand why she kicked her shoe off at the officer, it wasn’t becasue she was being disrespectful, her “arms were folded”! No more questions, cracka!
max1 on March 3, 2009 at 10:47 AM
No wonder that little b*tch called the cops fat pigs…… her father IS a bald fat pig!!!!!!!!
jordy2009 on March 3, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Seems to be a disrespectful child. One can imagine her language. Still, the tune up was overboard.
Mason on March 3, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I take it this was an honest mistake and you’re not referring to Julie Chen as “Connie” as a way of lumping all female Chinese-American television news anchors together.
Malpaso on March 3, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I believe we should bring back school spankings.
Tim Burton on March 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Everyone’s worst nightmare, a 13 to 17 year old girl. Hopefully aging will help straighten out her life.
Wade on March 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Cops not only have to put up with sh*tbags like this, but then they have to answer to the media, Monday morning quarterbacking, and then they answer to internal affairs that makes their living cornholing cops.
He lost his temper. He made a mistake, but don’t make this asshat a martyr because she got a beat down.
HornetSting on March 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM
I don’t care. Suspend the officer….. and send the brat to juvvy……. sick of victimizing punks …. and having cops think they’re cowboys… pox on both houses…. but more so on the brat.
MNDavenotPC on March 3, 2009 at 1:51 PM
I was paddled in elementary school, often for the most minor of infractions. I was the only kid in my class who’s parents gave permission to paddle, and I was the only kid ever really punished for anything, even if I had no involvement. Why? My teachers were huge proponants of school paddling. Fat lot of good it did me, just made me hate my teachers. When my mother did the spanking, though, hoo boy did I listen.
People in authoritative positions have the ability to abuse their positions, and some of them do. I wouldn’t trust an over-worked teacher/administrator, who deals with hundreds of active/obnoxious/young children each day, to effectively control their stress and not take it out on my child through paddling. Let me handle the physical discipline, I’m the parent – not some teacher/public school nanny.
Look, I understand the girl involved is not the model child. Heck, she reminds me of a sailor my husband had to deal with, back when he was an LPO. My husband would come home and rant and rave about her, but at work, he remained calm and professional. The cop should have learned long ago to check his emotions in situations like these – she may have been deliberately provoking him, but he could have let her throw her little tantrum, shut the door, and then added a charge of assaulting a police officer to her rap sheet. I do not think it is too much to expect a LEO to not flip out and go ape-shit over a teenager kicking her shoe at him in a holding cell. Talk about a lack of discipline!
Thank you kanda.
Anna on March 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Okay how does being a passenger in a “stolen” car earn you a beat down? Do you think kicking off a shoe towards a police officer presents a threat? Sorry but I was a police officer for over a decade and you can not justify this as acceptable use of force. As a former self-defense insructor for the PD this is pure excessive use of force.
Dude should be fired —buh bye!
ObamatheMessiah on March 3, 2009 at 1:56 PM
No doubt that the cop used too much force and will now pay the price but if anyone here thinks that this little act is how she really is when she is out on the street is probably a barry voter. I wouldn’t want to run into her in a dark alley.
peacenprosperity on March 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM
I dont feel sorry for this creep..
She got mouthy and she is lucky for if it was not a policeman
she might very well be DEAD..
jcila on March 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Nope, she a poster child for the far left radical Liberal nanny state wussified welfare queens… She is our future.
Mark Garnett on March 3, 2009 at 2:34 PM
True, O-messiah, there are very few excuses for beating up a teenage girl in the first place. Even less, if one is a police officer.
Too bad law enforcement, as a whole, is tainted by such bad apples. Not helpful.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Regardless, the cop was wrong. She kicked off her shoes and his reaction was way way way over the line. Looking for any “excuse” to beat the hell out of someone, especially a chick no matter how “mouthy” she was is effing slimy. He was not in any danger and she was under his control the whole time. Shit the door already…….
The guy is a POS and should be fired and prosecuted. This does not excuse her her crime. But it will probably make her much richer and the bully cop and his department much poorer.
Darth Odie on March 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM
ER uh “shut the door I mean…. ooops
Darth Odie on March 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Heh. But I can’t improve upon your bottom line:
Unless you meant “piece of shut” there.
Of course, I prefer my own typos :)
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 3:11 PM
She was playing a game she didn’t know the rules to. But given that she didn’t report the incident she might have learned something from it until it got aired out and everybody gave her the “You poor victim” treatment.
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With only a few exceptions out of control teenagers were out of control toddlers.
If you want your teens to obey the rules, first obey the rule yourself. (Including following the arrows in parking lots) And then force your small children to obey the rules.
darktood on March 3, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Unfortunately, in this case, the officer didn’t heed that advice.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Anyone see any missing teeth or bruises? I don’t. So the cop lost his temper. Like one poster said, she’s lucky it was a cop. I’m thinking if her parents did some of this while she was growing up, she might not be a criminal right now. Sad thing is, all charges will (probably) be dropped against her, she’ll be a hero and she’ll be a rich little pig.
Notice how nothing was her fault. If she hadn’t engaged in bad behviour to begin with she wouldn’t have gotten slapped around. What’s funny is, her boyfriend probably does worse.
Crab Pot on March 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM
The officer may need to use that excuse for himself in the courts in the near future.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Did she need her ass kicked?
Stephen M on March 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM
When I first saw the video I had sympathy for her but now that I have seen her actually speak and her arrogant little body demeanor I can’t stand her.
and BTW taking someones car withoput permission is stealing even if it is your cousin or mother or father.
I have heard of parents pressing charges against there own children for this.
I would still bang her if she could keep her mouth shut long enough though.
kangjie on March 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM
I don’t normally like Chris Rock, but that was great. :)
Crab Pot on March 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Just like the loony religious freaks, this is where the right loses me. I generally agree with 90% of the sentiments on this board (Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged saved me because I read it my senior year before college) but you can never justify this type of behavior by police.
I cannot believe how calm the father is. I am not going to say something crazy like I would kill the person that did this to my daughter; I will say I will hurt the person, severely.
My friends and I had a saying growing up – cops; they can’t help you. I’ve seen them put the boot in for no reason, rough up street bums and I know there is such a thing as being pulled over for driving black. Cops are just another gang.
yubley on March 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM
So what you’re saying is, the only people who discipline their kids by spanking them are church goers and conservatives? That’s a generalization you will never ever be able to prove. So by your reasoning, most of the kids in this country should be well behaved AND all of those kids are religiious AND conservative. Because time and again corporal punishment has proven effective most of the time.
So, deducing from your logic, most of the criminals in this country are liberals and democrats. Cool.
And lastly, my friends and I had a saying also. “Behave, don’t break the law and respect the police”. Kept us out of trouble.
I know. You’re Black and cops automatically hate you. Boo-hoo.
Crab Pot on March 3, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Well, yubley, I believe I’d be one of those “loony religious freaks” of which you speak, but I have to say you are 100% correct above. There just is no excuse for grown men beating up teenage girls, much less when the men wear police uniforms.
That’s not correct. Although some, as in the case here, do behave no different than street thugs. Makes the majority (the good cops) look bad. The proverbial rotten apples stinking up the whole barrel – and it’s a tragedy.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Her “calm” father, is also the father of a juvenile delinquent…whose odds of having a child out of wedlock and on welfare is greater then not.
Glad he is calm about his “child” stealing a car…
right2bright on March 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I think she should be punished for her hairstyle, but I don’t really care that she was roughed up. Karma.
The cop should be fired. I agree with her dad. If he can’t keep it under control, he needs to go. I’m sure part of the problem is that he has to deal with little pieces of crap like her daily.
sheesh on March 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM
You have to keep in mind, with the officer facing charges, that his father would be the father of a convict, if he’s tried and convicted. Nothing to be too proud of there, either.
Being that the officer himself has pill and alcohol-related problems, that’s also something that doesn’t make for parental bragging points.
I honestly don’t know of any parents who want their children beaten by the police for taking the family car without asking out for a spin . Not quite in the job desciption for a law enforcement officer.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Cheezit – it’s the Hair Police!!
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 5:39 PM
I concur, hope that it is some weak minded individual, and NOT the State, who is paying her attorneys fees.
DannoJyd on March 3, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Gee, another minority kid with an attitude, stealing cars, and making life expensive for the taxpayers.
Spartacus on March 3, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Sounds like you give up on trying to help with a solution and have become passive. You have any teen girls?
Wade on March 3, 2009 at 7:17 PM
It would’ve been helpful if someone had explained all of the costs involved to the out-of-control cop before he assaulted the girl.
whatcat on March 3, 2009 at 7:38 PM
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