Steele to Rush: I’m sorry; Update: Beck, Coulter knock Steele; Update: DNC chair hits Steele
posted at 6:36 pm on March 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
Rahm Emanuel yesterday:
Mr. Limbaugh has “called for President Obama to fail. That’s his view,” Mr. Emanuel said. “And whenever a Republican criticizes him, they have to run back and apologize to him and say they were misunderstood.”
Michael Steele today:
“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”…
“I went back at that tape and I realized words that I said weren’t what I was thinking,” Steele said…
“He brings a very important message to the American people to wake up and pay attention to what the administration is doing,” Steele said. “Number two, there are those out there who want to look at what he’s saying as incendiary and divisive and ugly. That’s what I was trying to say. It didn’t come out that way. … He does what he does best, which is provoke: He provokes thought, he provokes the left. And they’re clearly the ones who are most excited about him.”
Asked if he planned to apologize, Steele said: “I wasn’t trying to offend anybody. So, yeah, if he’s offended, I’d say: Look, I’m not in the business of hurting people’s feelings here. … My job is to try to bring us all together.”
Rush’s fans will hold Steele in contempt for criticizing him in the first place and Rush’s critics will hold him in contempt for apologizing now. Well played, sir. Exit question: Whose contrition was more groveling, Steele’s or Phil Gingrey’s?
Update: Coulter repeats the boss’s point from earlier today about how it’s perfectly okay to criticize Rush. Since when? Did CPAC pass a resolution?
Update: Rod Dreher skewers Steele: “Please Rush, don’t hurt me!”
Update: Tim Kaine seizes the moment:
“I was briefly encouraged by the courageous comments made my counterpart in the Republican Party over the weekend challenging Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party and referring to his show as ‘incendiary’ and ‘ugly.’ However, Chairman Steele’s reversal this evening and his apology to Limbaugh proves the unfortunate point that Limbaugh is the leading force behind the Republican Party, its politics and its obstruction of President Obama’s agenda in Washington.”
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The have the fairest shot on the face of the earth simply because they are blessed enough to live in this country.
thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM
In case you haven’t noticed, the House leadership rejected the involvement of the GOP, and could have cared less what conservatives thought.
They are getting everything they want, regardless.
They have Spector, Collins, and Snowe.
What more do they need?
They’re just pissed because they know that when this fails (and they know it will), they own it lock, stock, and barrel.
And then, when they try to lie to the American people that the right wing prevented them from accomplishing their goals, the American people will just be shaking their heads in awe and disgust…much like the last scene in Lord of the Flies when the troops find the children on the burning island.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Everybody else (except you, i guess) knows that investments are made in the market based on future projections. If people expected Obama’s plans to work, they would be buying, not selling like the sky is falling. I take it that you are pouring money into your portfolio? I hope that works out well for you, feel free to come back and rub it in our faces in six months.
Joe Caps on March 2, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Lenin couldn’t have said it better. Marx and Engels are proud. How I hate your type. You are lower than all the scum in the world. Moochers. You have the same opportunity as all others in this land. Go make something of it. To depend like this is modern day serfdom. Your masters exploit you idiots with ease, laughing all the way to their banks, including their powerbanks.
It is incredibly sweet to work hard and to be free. You’ll never grasp it. You deserve to be owned. May you be shackled forever. I wish it upon you.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Markets don’t respond to popularity polls, especially those of politicians, they respond to market conditions. If market conditions are positive, that’s how they respond, if they are negative, such as promises of increased taxes and spending, unfair competition and market manipulation by the government and badmouthing the productive sector of our country, markets will go down.
Nobody guages whether or not they should buy or sell based on Obama’s day to day popularity.
If you worked hard every day and did a great job but your boss continuously badmouthed your efforts and reduced your pay the harder you worked, how would your performance benefit?
It’s simple human nature. Capitalism is compatible, socialism and other flavors of Marxism are not. That’s why they’ve failed everywhere they’ve been tried.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 9:21 PM
A little off topic, but I’m watching 24, and Jack Bauer just told a senator he was weak and didn’t have the strength to look evil in the eye and deal with it. What a great line and so true of the libs.
americanpatriot on March 2, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Please. Acorn hardly represents the majority of the Democratic party and you know it. Repeating something doesn’t make it true.
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM
you truly are ignorant
over 60 percent of americans though the gop ran congress the past two years. have you seen obama voters interviewe? they are incredibly stupid. of course you did not know that. you are are stupid as they come. obama with your help. there is a reason the left destroyed the schools and the family. are you really this ignorant?
Jamson64 on March 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM
For the gnat-sized brains in here
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have” — Thomas Jefferson
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM
This is just stupid. Obama has been POTUS for six weeks. Many of his plans won’t come into affect for at least six months and everyone knows that.
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Yet Ogabe’s spending plans are forecast to leave the nation in debt for a decade, and that’s just the spending he’s done in the first month.
Not to mention that you just made the GOP point for them; why the rush to pass these ginormous bills RIGHT EFFIN NOW if their effect won’t be felt for months? An extra day or two to actually read the bills instead of a paltry eight hours?
Bishop on March 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM
i hope the republican party ex-communicates all of these liberals like Crist, David Frum and heck even Steele if need be. This helps people like Governor Palin and Governor Jindal who are true blue conservatives and will ALWAYS stand by those principals.
ousoonerfan15 on March 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Who gives a crap, Mr. Steel did the right thing here, Doesn’t that count for anything anymore..?
Pathetic world isn’t it…
Badbrucskie on March 2, 2009 at 9:24 PM
correction- obama -won- with your help. he relied on the most clueless voters to win.
Jamson64 on March 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Are you kidding me?
Rhetoric is an fine art.
What you see here is a desperate want of attention.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM
You are a coprophagous who is unfit to read Entelechy’s posts.
OmahaConservative on March 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM
talk about a simplistic dismissal
did the poster say that it was a majority?
Jamson64 on March 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Actually, there may be exceptions to this. A common refrain made recently by the government when it comes to bailout is “these organizations are too large to fail”. To prevent that from happening, the government should have broken them up way before they reached this size (kinda similar to the ATT breakup). Which does mean that we need to give the government the power to break up huge multinational companies for the good/stability of the financial system.
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM
You are Sofa King We Todd Ed.
thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Really? Then tell us: Who’s your daddy?
Soros?
Al Franken? Andrea Mitchell? Pelosi? Chris Matthews?
You must be so proud!
TN Mom on March 2, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Disappointingly they have proven how naive and really ignorant, en masse, they are. I never thought the number of tit-moochers could be this high, never. Nor would I have ever thought that they’d believe our corrupt media and a pathological narcissistic cipher, to the extent that they did. T
here is something psychologically perturbing to have a special nation like ours, and a world, under such an empty spell.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:27 PM
idiots like so many politicians and the trolls on this blog were willing to go for anything. they are short-sighted and uneducated. they voted in this scam without reading it and they think we are unreasonable.
Jamson64 on March 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Nope, Cap and trade will kill off whatever’s left of American manufacturing.
Say hello to breadlines!
“Alternative energy” is a crock unless it means nuke and clean coal plants and domestic drilling, including off-shore.
Your plan and Ogabe’s is brilliant: Let’s take it all away until everyone’s broke!
The world is a ghetto!
What does this mean, if anything???
It’s not the government’s business to level the playing field and give everyone a “fair shot,” just the freedom to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness–success in life, wealth and business optional.
Damn! You sound like the bad guys in Atlas Shrugged!
Read Adam Smith lately? It’s the paradox of Capitalism that the pursuit of (enlightened) self-interest as expressed in a free market leads to the maximum good for everyone.
Sadly for you, those who have claimed to govern “for the good of all” and for amorphous goals like “giving people a fair shot” usually ended up putting a good portion of the citizenry in the poorhouse or the gulags or the death camps.
Lenin, Marx, Castro and Mao Tse Tung would be proud of you, though.
Jenfidel on March 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Uh-oh. . . David Frum slams Limbaugh, too.
DrStock on March 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Same oppourtunity?
So, let me get this straight: a kid with no parents that had to go through foster care, live without Health and dental care pratically all his/her life, attend subpar schools, and work for subpar wages has the SAME chance as someone with two parents, a modest middle class lifestyle, health and dental care, well-equipped schools, and wages on par with inflation?
(Hint: It’s not all about you and what you can do. You can’t get anywhere in life completely depending on yourself and your capabilities.)
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Not in Florida! Believe me. My wife and I were looking for a house in 04 and values were going through the roof. People were buying multiple properties, hoping to rent and then flip. In SW Florida (Cape Coral) houses that in one month went for 119,000 three months later were on the market for 150,000 and that is not an exaggeration. There were houses that were bought and sold three times in a year, without a single resident. My wife and I couldn’t keep up with that, we had only saved up about 15,000 and all that could afford with a thirty year fixed was a trailer…not. kidding. So, rather than getting a stupid loan to “allow” us to get into a home that we knew we couldn’t afford, we moved to Texas where we live in our dream house, with a fixed loan, and money in the bank (at least I think it’s there). On the down side we have no family here. That’s why I can’t stand the bailout crap and the “cramdown” talk. We moved 1,100 miles from my kids grand parents, uncle, aunt, and cousins just so we could live within our means.
Weight of Glory on March 2, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Acorn hardly represents the majority of the Democratic party
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Really?
Explain the Community Reinvestment Act’s relationship to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, without saying ACORN….
with a straight face.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Where do you get your information? The housing plan is designed to help people that have been in their homes 20+ years????? What????Most people that have owned their homes for 20+ years do not have a problem losing their home, they have tons of equity in their homes. They usually are more conservative and have not taken out home equities and have bought their mortgages down.
Since the housing act is so vague noone knows who it is going help at this point. By the way, I do mortgages for a living and have been doing so for 15+ years.
Also, again, how do we pay for this trillion dollars in spending?????
momof2 on March 2, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Great word, I for the life of me couldn’t think of a way to use it so I tip my hat to you OC. : )
(Bows in humility)
thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Yet it definitely represents the mindset of the majority of Democrats.
Really?
Bush stole the election…
Bush lied about WMD’s…
Wall Street caused the economic crisis…
Global Warming…
Democrats really care about poor people…
could go on all day.
ClassicCon on March 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM
It’s close, but I have to say Gingrey takes the cake. Although if Steele ends up apologizing for agreeing with the Nazi comment he’ll have to give Gingrey a run for his money. Grovel-maina!
On the bright side t least now that Steele has sufficiently groveled he won’t be deemed an enemy of the state by the Dear Leader of the Republican Party.
crr6 on March 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM
This is off topic, but has anyone seen this?
Obamas kick up White House entertaining
And I cant believe that MSNBC reports this as such good news. Wasnt Obama the one, along with dems, slamming others for throwing parties? Who pays for these? Certainly not him. Most likely our tax payer dollars. Way to continue being a hypocrite Obama.
bucsox79 on March 2, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I don’t think you will find many new home loans in your 20+ year statistic, but what you will find are hapless people who cashed out the equity in their home, and now find themselves upside down during this resetting. These people didn’t commit fraud, like new home buyers, they were just stupid.
DFCtomm on March 2, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Heh…no kidding, then he will be illegally investigated for asking an embarrassing question by government employed thugs…oh wait…that was your side…AGAIN…my bad.
ClassicCon on March 2, 2009 at 9:33 PM
So now, the gnats wish for someone else to pay for housing value drops. My home dropped in value too. Does anyone owe me a thing? No, not at all. I took that risk when I bought it. Life is not meant to be a rosy bed of rose petals. Where is this idea all of a sudden (rather since FDR) leading?
They’re not here, with the exception of a few sane ones, to make logical points, or answer who’s going to pay for all this, including their own children/grandchildren. No, they are here to demoralize us. Good luck with that. We’re not the sissies you are.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Hint: that attitude is why you are a slave and always will be one to one master or another.
thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM
It is a different philosophy, ckoeber. A lot of posters in this blog have come from extremely poor backgrounds too (I know that for a fact), and have struggled hard by going to the military, and earning their way from there by creating their own business, etc. So, please don’t be ad hoc dismissive about conservatives, because they are not all rich, and, just like any large group of people, not all super-successful. But they believe that poor people should not feel they are the victims, but instead should work their way out of it through dedication and self-motivation.
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Some people may think that, but they’d be wrong. The market itself is selling off every time the government “do[es] things to turn the economy around”. This is because the market doesn’t at all like the things he is doing. They don’t think it will work—because it’s already been tried in the past and failed. In fact, some of the bailouts from last year have already failed. It doesn’t matter if you think that something the government does will turn the market around, what matters is if the people who have “skin in the game” think it will.
And clearly they don’t. At least nothing that’s been done yet. While so far Obama, (and Bush), have tried to resurrect failed strategies from the dead, other strategies that have been proven to work in the past have been buried and ignored.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM
I like them because they are way more insulting that calling you “sheep”. They are more common than sheep, more nearing non-thinking than sheep. The comments are not dumb, the ones who think that little are.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM
You’re a fool. Entelechy should have given you the evil eye on top of this beat down.
DFCtomm on March 2, 2009 at 9:37 PM
By guaranteeing the trillions in national debt we are selling to the Chinese by granting them eminent domain over national assets if the Government defaults on the loans.
Now that’s called literally selling out your Country.
Dreadnought223 on March 2, 2009 at 9:37 PM
It’s too bad all of his work has been comprised of incompetent retreads of previously failed strategies.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM
(Hint: It’s not all about you and what you can do. You can’t get anywhere in life completely depending on yourself and your capabilities.)
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Christians already know this. But, it’s sure not all about the government. Conservatives want government to step in as little as possible. It is proven that Conservatives are more generous than Liberals, giving more of their time and money to church and charities.
Arthur C. Brooks, professor at Syracuse University, “Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.” Article from RealClearPolics.com 3/27/08
kingsjester on March 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Are you serious. I know examples of someone who started off “higher” up and fell harder than the one who started “low” and moved swiftly up. And not just examples I’ve read in a book, rather my friends. One of my friends, after serving a four year prison sentence, came out and started at the entry level within an insulation company. Three years later he’s making the big bucks as a project manager overseeing other crews, and just got married to a beautiful lady who loves him. He has good income, a home, and now a loving wife. Not bad for a kid who admitted his crime to his shrink, was then forced to tell the cops, and then got arrested. And yes, outside of the prison, government played no part in his success.
Weight of Glory on March 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM
On top of that, people notice that he is constantly trying to do things to turn the economy around.ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Watch the market. It knows better than all of us, and it doesn’t like a thing he’s doing. Only non-thinking masses fall for self-inflicting modern day serfdom. Enjoy the shackles. You deserve them.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Sorry, meant no strikes, but rather a quote.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM
correction: RealClearPolitics.com
kingsjester on March 2, 2009 at 9:39 PM
It certainly is when they are all ass up – head down deep in Rush’s kool-aid fountain.
And don’t you dare say anything about Rush – his guards will chop off your head.
AprilOrit on March 2, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Strikes work fine, too! Not a problem.
Jenfidel on March 2, 2009 at 9:40 PM
The environmental damage done by all of these emmissions is borderline disasterous. You mean to tell me that we need to give off all of this toxic pollution because we can’t find a better way? Please.
As for the taxes, I find it unbelievable that you want to have the majority of people dying to survive so that only a few succeed. (1) Obama is not “taxing everyone until they are broke”. Most of the people affected by these taxes were supposed to be paying these taxes but are evading them. Look at the tax shelters at the Swedish banks as a prime example. (2) A society succeeds when a majority of the people succeed. Contrary to popular belief most people are not trying to kill each other trying to start multi-trillion dollar businesses. They want a decent life. I have NEVER advocated that the government give people what they want. But there should be equality at the starting point. When you have some people drastically disadvantaged because of the VAST difference in the equality in education, healthcare, and basic living standards. This is akin to blaming people in Darfur for their living conditions.
As for your example that it is not the government’s job to level the playing field; I couldn’t disagree more. In your argument slavery would still exist because it wasn’t the government’s job to intervene.
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Strikes were very effective. ckoeber is lusting to suck at mother governments left teat.
OmahaConservative on March 2, 2009 at 9:42 PM
He’s a pimp and these people that you speak of are his girls. He takes the money they earn and tells them that he will take care of them with no intention of doing so.
thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Same oppourtunity?
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Don’t blame President Bush. He created No Child Left Behind AND school vouchers.
TN Mom on March 2, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Perhaps he should have taken the hippocratic oath, first.
Then again, he took an oath to protect the Constitution.
What good, an oath?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM
I’m a Rush fan, and I don’t hold him in contempt for criticizing Rush. I hold him responsible for bringing the RP back to conservative principles. So far, he gets a C-. Way, way, way too much …. “I certainly don’t want to hurt someone’s feelings” nonsense. If Rush or any other conservative spokesman is wrong, then criticize them, but if they aren’t, then support them. Steele failed at this. Rush has been right on Obama’s agenda, and Steele should have supported him.
Getting a little testy/snarky with the boss there Allah? Why don’t you ask her if she thinks that conservatives feel like they can’t criticize Rush?
I don’t know about Michelle, but if you were my employee, I would take a very dim view of you posting something about my comment in a public forum that could certainly be construed as impertinent.
Joe Pyne on March 2, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Wall street doesn’t “deliver” anything. It’s a market place. It’s companies that employ people who deliver. And the fact that Obama and other authoritarians like yourself are trying to beat them all down until they learn to obey is exactly why the market is dropping. Markets don’t respond well to abuse.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Then let them work and struggle for their “fair shot” just as the rest of us have done. The hard working, productive people of this country should not be forced to provide for the parasitic underclass through a communist wealth distribution scheme.
rplat on March 2, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Sad as this story might be, it’s nothing compared to huge miseries in the world. I can give you my story but I won’t. I can show you millions of peole who came here, yes, legally, with not more than a suitcase, and they are the exact opposite of your sob story, and mighty happy and lucky to have had the opportunity. They didn’t mooch a dime.
Here’s whom the conservatives love to help, and do, btw, en masse – those who really need assistance, the orphans, the physically/menatally challenged, the elderly with not enough to make a decent living, the people in real need, via myriad of charities, not the healthy scum who protest that they deserve what others have.
The mortgage bailout is the ultimate stupidity to reward mooching, cheating, irresponsibility and making bad decisions.
This is a system of profits and losses. When times were good no one came by or sent a note and attached a few millions for me. Why should now the reverse be true?
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 9:47 PM
As for your example that it is not the government’s job to level the playing field; I couldn’t disagree more.
When a nation pays its surgeons the same wage as its ditch-diggers, there will be no surgeons.
When the lazy are allowed to tap the wealth of the industrious, there will be no wealth to tap.
Bishop on March 2, 2009 at 9:47 PM
Really? So there wasn’t anything going on in prison that helped this man (which is a great story btw, not taking anything away from him)?
Please, your example is riddled with governmemt policies you don’t even know about that helped him.
Have you heard of laws that force people to not discriminate based on past sentences?
How about assistance for people just getting out of prison to make ends meet until they get a job?
Many people here spend sooo much time putting down the governemnt that they don’t realize the many ways that they help.
The government has inperfections, justg like every other corporation, organization, and entity. Period.
But just in your story I see the government at work (both in AND out of prison).
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:48 PM
At least be original in your putdowns. Sexual references are old.
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM
My car is running rough. Guess I’ll take a sledge hammer to it, slash the tires, and set it afire.
Don’t know how I’ll get where I’m going after that.
But I sure showed that car, huh?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Hint: It’s not all about you and what you can do. You can’t get anywhere in life completely depending on yourself and your capabilities.
Bull. Lacking a debilitating physical or mental ailment, yes you can “get anywhere” in life depending on yourself.
The problem is that people without have decided those with are to be punished, without regard to effort or intellect.
Bishop on March 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Kid you have been sold such a bill of goods that it is absolutely terrifying. Product of your government indoctrination in public schools no doubt.
Your common lie about the rich evading their share of taxes does not correspond with the truth of actual tax receits brought in by the IRS. If they are evading paying taxes then where is that money really coming from and who is cooking the books at the IRS.
I understand your point about helping a kid out who has had everything stacked against him, but they are NOT the majority of cases in this country. Yet you want to use those rare examples to force your skewed morallity on the rest of us through government force? I thought it was only the fundies on the right that did that.
Here is the bottom line. You believe we should pay more? Then be man enough to come an take it and not hire some government thugs through your vote to do your dirty work.
ClassicCon on March 2, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Your lying ckoeber. You don’t want the same opportunity, you don’t want an opportunity at all. You want a guaranteed outcome. Your too scared to stand by yourself in this world, but your also eaten up with envy for those who do and succeed. Your answer is to get the government to remove opportunity and replace it with a guaranteed outcome where no mans bravery can outshine your cowardice.
DFCtomm on March 2, 2009 at 9:53 PM
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Okay, Scooter. How about this? What you have been calling for all night has a name, actually two. At best, it is Socialism. At its’ worst, it is called Communism. Where ever it has been tried, it has leveled the playing field, alright. Everybody except the ruling class winds up poor and totally dependent on the State for their every need. It does not work and it is the enemy of a free society. And this is what you want? You do know what the definition of Insanity is, don’t you? It is trying the same thing over and over again while expecting different results.
kingsjester on March 2, 2009 at 9:58 PM
PM
Nothing sexual there, gnat.
lust – crave: have a craving, appetite, or great desire for
suckling at mother governments left teat connotes gaining nourishment whilst being a non-contributor and unproductive leech.
OmahaConservative on March 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM
READ 1984, PEOPLE!!!!
The dems and the MSM are trying to make Rush into thier Goldstein. Once they have demonized him (and by proxy, anyone who disagrees with Obama) they can get every socialist policy they want, and then, bye-bye Constitution, bye-bye freedom, bye-bye USA.
Stand up and be counted!
jdawg on March 2, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Nope. He actually had to succeed in spite of those “goins-on”.
Didn’t need that service, which was my point. You’re trying to confuse the underlying presence of the laws with an entitlement mentality of, “Mr. Obama, can I have a house with a kitchen.?” “Mr. Obama I get no benefits from McDonalds, can you give me some?” I’d hardly compare that active seeking of a handout, with the existence of nondiscrimination laws. Not only are they dissimilar in degree, but they are dissimilar in kind as well.
Weight of Glory on March 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Screw Tim Kaine. I can’t wait till he isn’t my governor anymore.
Achilles on March 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM
Back on topic, I think Michael Steele should resign, tomorrow at 8AM would be fine. Dissing conservatives is bad enough from the inbred left, we don’t need any more of it from RINOs.
Zorro on March 2, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Brake out the Pampers, there all wetting their pants.
RadioFreeUSA on March 2, 2009 at 10:06 PM
ckoeber, btw, it’s not “planktons”, as you wrote; plankton is already in the plural – the aggregate of passively floating, drifting, or somewhat motile organisms occurring in a body of water, primarily comprising microscopic algae and protozoa.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 10:09 PM
What’s the snark for? If you don’t like what he says, don’t listen. There are plenty of other radio shows, and I’d advise you to listen to one of them. You’d have to be an abject fool to keep coming back to something you don’t like.
JiangxiDad on March 2, 2009 at 10:09 PM
As I mentioned previously to the same comment, I think it is really a different philosophy. While conservative philosophy believes you can make whatever you want out of your own life, the liberal philosophy depends on creating a large safety net for people with the understanding that propping up failed individuals (for whatever reason they failed) a federal responsibility (a shared social responsibility since it depends on taxes). So, ideally, while the latter depends on individual hard work and good will to create a better society, the latter depends on sound judgement by a select group of individuals (aka the government).
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Gingrey was elected to represent the people of his district, not cower to an entertainer.
Weak.
getalife on March 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM
I agree that Steele has shown that his position in the RNC is above his pay grade. He has made too many rookie mistakes to be looked at with the proper respect.
He gave a weak apology. He doesn’t know the full nature of what he is doing, and now isn’t the right time for him to be getting OTB training.
Bizarro No. 1 on March 2, 2009 at 10:13 PM
getalife on March 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM
OmahaConservative on March 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM
:)
That’s not the half of it. Sethstorm admitted a week or so ago that he wants to build fences on our borders and start checking people papers to prevent the Wall Street villains from escaping the country. The thread died, though, before I got around to asking him where the gulag would be located.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM
oops I meant to say “OTJ training”
Bizarro No. 1 on March 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 10:09 PM
You’re very nice, always. I understand the difference very well. Just look at Sweden – failed and trying to reverse, something that is nearly impossible. We must fight never to get to that point. I’m not an ogor. Help is needed, and offered. It’s not like people suffer in the U.S. I travel the country a lot, and know all the areas well. I work in hospitals across the country and see all kinds of real misery.
My favorite depiction of that system is from P.J. O’Rourke, who took a sabbatical from work and traveled around Europe, much of the Western part too. He visited the head of Sweden, a lady at the time and summed her system up, similarly “I observed your holidays. You have 370 a year” :) He’s always a good read. I adore his “Parliament of Whores.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM
If only.
spmat on March 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Not just that, he has this thing about internationals holding high paying jobs in the US, in spite of the fact that they have have PhD’s and experience in those disciplines. He has never given an alternative, though.
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 10:17 PM
I am sure the President welcomes this distraction.
Rahm is a genius.
getalife on March 2, 2009 at 10:19 PM
I wonder how quickly a democrat would kiss Sean Penn’s ass, but we’ll never know because democrats don’t have the guts to criticize even the obviously crazy in their party. I know you’re enjoying this getalife, but you should laugh while you can, because this is a distillation process, and there will be an end product this is very different from what we have today.
DFCtomm on March 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM
DNC chair hits Steele.
Just great AP. Thanks for the info. Both unexpected and important. The independents must be in a lather. I suggest Steele apologize to the DNC chair.
JiangxiDad on March 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Yes, Rush exposes the emperor, nakid, and Rahm is a “genius”. Logic, where art thou?
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 10:22 PM
??To get what things done????
What things???
What???
JellyToast on March 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Imagine GWB paying attention to the likes of Olberkind.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Holy crap that audio link is astounding. He actually plays clips of his own never ending speech and then says “hear hear” to the cheers of hardcore conservatives. Meanwhile he sounds absolutely 100% enraged the entire time. Whoa, I never thought Rush would lose his cool like this.
DeathToMediaHacks on March 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM
Good quote. The poor in US are in a much better shape than the socialist countries in Europe, and for that I directly support American entrepreneurship, the most unparalleled creative force in known societies. I believe, hundreds of years down the line, when histories are written, this will be the one factor that historians will conclude made our country great. Whatever other society you go to, multiplying your wealth is so very much more difficult than the US, just because the laws are so inherently anti-business. That is what brings the immigrants to America’s shores – it is this endless *personal* possibility.
peter_griffin on March 2, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Why should it be a concern if they were to get that sort of treatment? You should consider this an opportunity for growth, not pessimism.
Republicans better learn sooner, meaning right now, rather than later how to go on the offensive and score points against the Leftist media, who already has it out for them as it is. It isn’t such a difficult proposition, especially when considering how stupid Lefties really are.
Bizarro No. 1 on March 2, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Dear ‘ckoeber’:
You may be a fine fellow, and you sound well-intentioned enough; unfortunately, the path to ruin is lined with good intentions. The phrase is not, “Life, liberty, and the guarantee of happiness,” but the puruit of it. Taking from one and giving to another via a wealth distribution scheme absolves the taker of any responsibilty to strive for that which he or she desired in the first place. It is a ruinous practice for the takee, the taker, and the society that fosters such a relationship.
I sincerely hope you come to see the truth of this at somepoint; Our country may depend on it.
CaptFlood on March 2, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Of course! Communism, by its very nature, must build walls to keep people in.
Wonder if Sethstorm could explain why people don’t float makeshift rafts from Key West to Havana over 90 miles of open ocean?
I don’t think people even stop to think how dangerous and desperate that trip is.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM
After reading some of ckoeber’s comments I have a Paul Harvey kind of tale for him. I can’t tell it as well as Paul Harvey, and although I doubt if ckoeber will care, I think some of the rest of you who are not familiar with it will enjoy it. (The facts are from Wiki).
There was once a young man who was born in North Carolina, where his encounters with Caucasians were so limited he didn’t believe that “yellow” was a hair color. He moved to Harlem, New York City with his mother’s sister (whom he believed was his mother); his father had died before he was born.
He went to Stuyvesant High School, but dropped out at 17 because of financial difficulties and a deteriorating home environment. He worked at various jobs to support himself, including in a machine shop and as a delivery man for Western Union. He applied to enter the Civil Service and was eventually accepted, moving to Washington DC. He was drafted in 1951, during the Korean War, and assigned to the US Marine Corps. Due to prior experience in photography, he worked in a photography unit.
After his discharge, he passed the GED examination and enrolled at Howard University. He transferred to Harvard University, where he graduated magna cum laude with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Economics. He received a Master of Arts in Economics from Columbia University, and a Doctor of Philosophy in Economics from the University of Chicago.
He has taught Economics at Howard University, Cornell University, Brandeis University, and UCLA. Since 1980 he has been a Senior Fellow of the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, where he holds a fellowship named after Rose and Milton Friedman.
Today this man has written over two dozen books. He is a famous economist and has been called “our greatest contemporary philosopher”.
His name is Thomas Sowell.
And now you know the rest of the story.
INC on March 2, 2009 at 10:35 PM
You tell that to my 401K. Or better yet, you can shove it up your ass.
Norwegian on March 2, 2009 at 10:39 PM
Steele’s apology is too little too late. He defensively took a really wuss position, and it takes more than a wuss apology to get him out of it.
petefrt on March 2, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Thank you INC. Mr. Sowell is also one of the smartest people in America.
Entelechy on March 2, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Why thank you CaptFlood. I appreciate people willing to have a discussion on merit instead of mere putdowns.
However, I sincerely disagree. In order to have the pursuit of happiness you must have life and liberty first.
Under the premise proposed by the conervatives there is little need for any form of government. What is the point of having public schools? According to the conservative principle, that is the role of the individual.
Regulations? No need. If you cannot work in the system (even if people are actively working to undermine, cheat, and bribe any and everyone) it is your fault.
Public hospitals? Nope, that’s your responsibility.
The problem with conservative principle is that the success and failure falls on the individual, regardless of the circumstances.
That is the fallacy of conservatism.
I hope that you as well as all people who share a strong connection to conservatism see that everything is not about the individual.
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Why bother responding if you have nothing of value to add?
ckoeber on March 2, 2009 at 10:44 PM
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