Steele to Rush: I’m sorry; Update: Beck, Coulter knock Steele; Update: DNC chair hits Steele
posted at 6:36 pm on March 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
Rahm Emanuel yesterday:
Mr. Limbaugh has “called for President Obama to fail. That’s his view,” Mr. Emanuel said. “And whenever a Republican criticizes him, they have to run back and apologize to him and say they were misunderstood.”
Michael Steele today:
“My intent was not to go after Rush – I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh,” Steele said in a telephone interview. “I was maybe a little bit inarticulate. … There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership.”…
“I went back at that tape and I realized words that I said weren’t what I was thinking,” Steele said…
“He brings a very important message to the American people to wake up and pay attention to what the administration is doing,” Steele said. “Number two, there are those out there who want to look at what he’s saying as incendiary and divisive and ugly. That’s what I was trying to say. It didn’t come out that way. … He does what he does best, which is provoke: He provokes thought, he provokes the left. And they’re clearly the ones who are most excited about him.”
Asked if he planned to apologize, Steele said: “I wasn’t trying to offend anybody. So, yeah, if he’s offended, I’d say: Look, I’m not in the business of hurting people’s feelings here. … My job is to try to bring us all together.”
Rush’s fans will hold Steele in contempt for criticizing him in the first place and Rush’s critics will hold him in contempt for apologizing now. Well played, sir. Exit question: Whose contrition was more groveling, Steele’s or Phil Gingrey’s?
Update: Coulter repeats the boss’s point from earlier today about how it’s perfectly okay to criticize Rush. Since when? Did CPAC pass a resolution?
Update: Rod Dreher skewers Steele: “Please Rush, don’t hurt me!”
Update: Tim Kaine seizes the moment:
“I was briefly encouraged by the courageous comments made my counterpart in the Republican Party over the weekend challenging Rush Limbaugh as the leader of the Republican Party and referring to his show as ‘incendiary’ and ‘ugly.’ However, Chairman Steele’s reversal this evening and his apology to Limbaugh proves the unfortunate point that Limbaugh is the leading force behind the Republican Party, its politics and its obstruction of President Obama’s agenda in Washington.”
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Steele is turning out to be very disappointing.
upinak on March 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Dire Straits on March 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Or both, it seems. I love an unapologetic conservative. Wish we had some willing to actually represent us.
genso on March 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM
That’s just it. Conservatives are mad because they feel like they’ve been attacked too, by the “head” of the party that conservatism is SUPPOSE to fall under.
roopster217 on March 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM
And hopefully the natural cycle of public opinion will provide us some solace in 4 years…as in economic cycles.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Criticize Rush? Why not? When he is wrong or way off base…sure. We Conservatives do not believe in stifling dissent, lawful dissent, and we respect the First Amendment, all of it, especially that first few phrases.
What we do not abide is our “leaders” and elected GOP officials working assiduously to undercut Conservatism in America by pandering to the Left, trying to be friends with the Left, trying to be liked by the Left…hasn’t worked a hair since 1960…why would the Left suddenly start liking us now?
coldwarrior on March 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Are you really trying to convince us that the differences between Buckley, Reagan, and Goldwater are comparable to the canyon between Rush and Susan Collins?
Gimme a break.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM
rockmom on March 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM
The ultimate shame?
That if this continues, it will prove that all the GOP did was start using the Democrat’s playbook. Stupid, stupid play.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM
time to move on, the NY Times and NPR are already feeding the fire.
rob verdi on March 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM
As well as policy, I pray.
upinak on March 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM
I am a huge fan of Rush Limbaugh, I listen daily. My only problem with all of this is that I expect Republican politicians to have capable answers to these expected questions. Hello, how long has Rush been around? And may I point out the same politicians (especially the last administration) did not know a moments hesitation of using talk shows in general and Rush in particular if they needed to get a message to the masses. I want professionals to act like professionals.
Cindy Munford on March 2, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Contrary to some opinions (here and at Ace’s), I actually think this is a fight we in the GOP need to have before the next elections.
Steele represents a faction that believes we need to capture the moderates by being moderate.
Limbaugh represents a faction that believes we need to capture the moderates by persuading them through the force of ideas that conservatism is the way to go.
Over the past 8 years I was OK with the former approach, mainly because we needed moderates on board in order to fight terrorism and a certain number of concessions were in order to, for lack of a better term, bribe their acquiesence. But since Obama isn’t going to be fighting that battle, the GOP is free to indulge in this philosophical battle.
Frankly I’m more on board with persuading moderates that our way is best, rather than bribe them with goodies to get their support…
JohnTant on March 2, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Since when was Susan Collins considered a voice of conservatism? And where did I mention her?
Again, I’m saying that there are many who have been considered strong icons of the conservative movement, and crowning one of them king is a foolhardy exercise. Sarah Palin? Newt Gingrich? Tom Tancredo? All different flavors of conservatism, and few would argue that any of them aren’t conservative.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Rockmom I was against Steele from the start and I havent yet called for his resignation. I think that would be premature.
I still think he isnt up for the job. I want to hear about PARTY BUILDING from Steele not this garbage or “hip Hop” crap or that the GOP needs to be a “Big Tent”
The GOP is the predominate party. We simply blow elections because our party leaders have NO CLUE on how to win elections on a consistant basis.
I will also tell you I applied to join the RNC. And was promptly turned down.
I am not blue blooded enough for them.
William Amos on March 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM
*smacks self across the face*
I forgot what this thread was about…..
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Did Steele grow a pair?
John S. McCain spent the past 7 or 8 years kissing dimocrat/drive by press ass at every opportunity while taking potshots at Republicans and Conservatives, look where that got him(and us). Enough of this rino bull crap, if we don’t stand together and fight to make sure the obamatard fails at inflicting his socialist/statist/left wing agenda on America then we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Steele et.al better get with the program or be prepared to be replaced with someone with the courage to stand up for something. Now I’m going to google Howard Dean and Keith Olberfascist to see how many times the screamer denigrated the moron…any bets on what I’ll find?
stu.b.con on March 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM
That’s not a pun, it is an epithet, and quite an insulting and blaphemous one. Perhaps when lecturing people on the place of faith, you could avoid insulting the people who have it? I’ll hold my breath waiting for your apology.
If you read the disheartening posts about the 15-year-old yesterday, you would know that all it would take to defeat any Republican rebelion would be to equip teenage girls as federal soldiers.
The Milksop Marines would be defeated without a shot being fired.
TMK on March 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM
I’ve been thinking. Maybe the democrats are doing us a favor by trying to divide.
Maybe this will sift the real conservatives from the pretenders and the cowards. This move by Steele has shown us what he is. Maybe, just maybe, through all of this, we will emerge much stronger and whole. We can use our anger to create a strong conservative movement and get rid of the Rinos.
americanpatriot on March 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Exactly, but first the honeymoon has to come to a close…six months more of ooohing and awwwing over Obama…then reality.
right2bright on March 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Steele is now the Republican equivalent of Howard Dean.
Not leadership material unless conservatives are ready
to roll over and die. Steele was a horrible choice.
old trooper2 on March 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Which is how we have always done it…unlike the liberals who just devour their “objectors”, we will debate and hash it out.
right2bright on March 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Naw, that’s a dirty job. AllahPundit tells me I have to kiss liberal a$$ and talk crap about my fellow supporters to get elected. I also have to give up my principals along with my faith because I can’t offend the Atheists in my Party by saying I believe in something other than myself. By the time I’m done, I’m not a Principled, Unapologetic, Conservative. Eh, Allah?
Sultry Beauty on March 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM
“Steele is turning out to be very disappointing.”
Quick, without googling it, name the previous RNC chair.
Steele’s getting more camera time faster than any RNC chair since Haley Barbour.
He’s screwed up a few times; he’s sounded pretty good a few times. He’s a bit of a goof-ball; anyone who saw his Senate campaign knows that, but he’s at least getting some publicity. Give him a run through 2010 and see how he does.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM
“how it’s perfectly okay to criticize Rush. Since when? Did CPAC pass a resolution?”
allahpundit cannot contain his jealousy.
in every post about Rush, it always creeps in
notagool on March 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Has Steele apologized about agreeing that CPAC looked like a NAZI rally?
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM
Soxnation has it right. It would be nice for these pundits/politicians to simply turn and tell the interviewer to ask Rush their stupid question.
Why does our side have the inability to say that was an idiotic question and frame the debate in terms favorable to us? It is not that hard. It seems like too many republicans have battered wife syndrome,ie: “what did I do or say to make him mad?” Can they just get a clue and some nuts here?
Steele said the WaPo monkey cartoon was bad and praises that dirty race baiter Sharpton and then is critical of Rush. Mr. Steele I want to like you but you are making it hard. The democrats will never ever ever like you. OK?
arnold ziffel on March 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I finally get it, when republicans refer to the messiah, their not talking about Obama, they mean Rush, he is their god, they worship him, and, I’m only half joking. A little friendly advice, follow Limbaugh at your own risk.
athensboy on March 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Ugh,I feel like Anne’s first words,well,ah..
Here’s the problem,Republicans have to stick up for
Republicans,every time the Lefty talking head accuse’s
the right,as ‘Nazi Germany’,on tv,
get mad,fight back,straighten the interviewer out!
———-
But,oh no,every single interview I’ve seen,the Conservative
is polite,
what the h#ll,the clown(Lefty)just accused the Party of
(gas chambers and ovens),when you boil it right down!
Turn to these Lefty’s(clowns)and straighten them out,if
you don’t defend it,or laugh it off,with said Lefty,then
crap,it must be true,duh!!
I’m not saying that Republicans get into the gutter with
Liberals,but when their being accused of this kind of crap,
turn to said Lefty interviewer,”Are you serious,are you
accusing me,and my party,of associating with Nazi’s”!!!
I would of love to see,Dick Cheney straighten out said
Liberal,but then,on the other hand,we know how VP Dick
Cheney responds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on March 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
I think Allah is great but I wouldn’t want to go to him for advice on running for office…or dating Catholic girls, for that matter. ;)
genso on March 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
I hope this is a teachable moment for Steele. It’s not about refusing to criticize a particular media personality, or toeing some kind of line imposed by Rush’s sea of listeners. It’s about rejecting the arrogant premise of the liberal critique from the get-go. If you’re the head of the RNC, you owe your supporters more than just sitting there while some talking head floats playful Nazi analogies about them. You don’t appear thoughtful, or impress any persuadable voters, when you let a liberal journalist get away with the assertion that one of this generation’s most popular conservative spokesmen is some kind of caveman, then quibble about whether he’s a troglodyte or a neanderthal.
One of the advantages liberals derive from their media monopoly is the ability to rule criticism of their most popular figures completely out of bounds, before the discussion even starts. Of course, it’s racist to criticize Obama (and you can expect that meme to be deployed even more strongly as his policies become increasingly spectacular failures.) It’s also unthinkable to criticize Ted Kennedy, or point out that Joe Biden is essentially senile and should have been institutionalized after his debate with Sarah Palin; or that Al Gore has been proven comprehensively wrong about everything he ever believed in, and knew he was a fraud from the day he appointed himself Green Prophet. The media thinks nothing of insinuating that Limbaugh’s powerful speech was an act of borderline sedition, but would never tolerate comparable criticism of the liberal politicians and commentators who went off the rails over the last eight years.
Steele has, I hope, learned that he needs to nip this garbage in the bud, after Word One. The proper response to some nitwit comparing Republican voter demographics to the Nazis’ is “How dare you,” not stony silence. And the proper response to someone trying to slander Limbaugh as a hate-filled rabble-rouser is to begin listing the powerful themes of that speech, and ask which ones the guy with Important Hair disagrees with, and why.
As for political fallout from the great Limbaugh Steele Cage Match: that all depends on what happens over the next year or so. If Obama’s right, and fascist control of the economy, coupled with disastrous increases in energy prices and insanely irresponsible deficit spending, turns out to be the best way to govern a free people, then I suppose Steele’s self-inflicted bloody nose could hurt the RNC. I suspect that will not be the case, and the only lasting criticism people will have of Steele by 2010 is why he didn’t speak out against Obama louder and longer, and do more to rally the country before the snowballing disaster of his administration reached epic proportions.
Doctor Zero on March 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Good Greif as if that is what will solve the GOP’s problems
William Amos on March 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
We don’t need focus-group conservatism, Mr. Steele
RadioFreeUSA on March 2, 2009 at 7:47 PM
By using the name of Christ, I insulted those who revere him? I admire the guy too, and endured several years at a Catholic school learning about him, so get off your high horse. It was a pun because I mentioned his name when showing clear exasperation at how many discussions regarding the conservative ideology seem to steer towards discussion of faith. The two are independent of each other.
If you revere the man, I can’t see why you’d be upset at my plea to him. For me, not for thee…is that it?
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:47 PM
You’re only half-witted.
progressoverpeace on March 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM
I can accept that. That’s fair.
Yet, it’s difficult for me to see you go after Rush, at a time like this.
Like I asked earlier, what is your philosophical disagreement with him?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Exactly…time to start living and dying on what you believe. It certainly can’t get any worse than where we are now.
genso on March 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Let’s see. Since Dean took over the Democratic Party, the Dem’s have gained both houses of Congress, the White House, and a majority of governorships, and consistently beat the Republicans on fundraising.
If Steele has that sort of a track record, I’d be pretty satisfied.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
I have no desire to see Steele resign, period. I have every hope that he will rediscover his pair and lead from the front. I want him to show the world what conservatism is and actually demonstrate from example that he truly gets it.
And yes, an apology to all for silently nodding to the Nazi comparison is very appropriate as well.
If we can get the RINOs to either truly embrace conservatism, or at least leave office (if not the GOP), then maybe we can really turn the country around, starting in 2010.
itzWicks on March 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Please tell me he didn’t say that.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
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Actually, I think that Reagan would now and again get a little Obama on his boot while workin around the ranch.
RalphyBoy on March 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Sounds like Michael Steele finally listened to Rush’s speech……..
Seven Percent Solution on March 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Is it really gonna matter about any party when this fool of a President damages this country beyond repair?
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
“Good Greif as if that is what will solve the GOP’s problems”
Not by itself, but publicity is a major part of a National Committee Chair’s job. Platform and policy belong to others.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
…where did I go after Rush? Because I said he is not “conservatism”? Did I not explain that point? All I did was dispute that he is not the end-all of our ideology. I like Rush, and have listened to him since I was in effing grade school! However, Ronald Reagan got me more into conservatism than Rush did, in many ways, as did Buckley when I started reading his works.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
That’s okay, I don’t date Catholic girls. For some reason I keep finding myself dating younger, Atheistic, Libertarians. I kiss the boys, make them cry, then they start texting me stuff like: “Good Morning Sweetheart!!! AIG getting another 30 billion. AIG stock is at $0.42 down from $49.00. DOW should go below 7000 today. I’m glad Obama speech and recovery plan r working so well. The problem is we didn’t throw enough money at the problem. I think we need 1 Zillon$ bailout” While switching from listening to Tom Likus to Rush, which is probably why (as he informed me yesterday) that Likus’ show got canned.
Sultry Beauty on March 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I don’t know who the “moderates” are that some “conservatives” hope to capture, but it ain’t ever going to happen. The Dems can always out “moderate” the GOP or other conservatives when it comes to capturing “moderates.”
AntonK on March 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM
“Sounds like Michael Steele finally listened to Rush’s speech….”
That’s my take, also.
It’s ok to get ambushed by the national press once or twice at the beginning, as long as you learn from it. I hope Steele will. I guess we’ll see.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM
This chump can’t bring the country to that state, period. Not even morons like Frank, Pelosi, and Reid are sly enough to get this country that far gone. The American people may be complacent, but they aren’t dead. They’ll get pissed well before we pass the point of no return.
When that happens, they’re going to want real change, and we know where they come to get that.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Yeah. Both men. Both elected president.
Did I leave anything out?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Hit the strike button. Forgive me.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM
“Did I leave anything out?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM”
Both have been seen in Cowboy hats.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Okay.
One more time and then I’ll leave you alone.
What is your philosophical disagreement with him?
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
I actually don’t believe that is true.
The foundation of the conservative view point is the founding documents. The founding documents center on one revealing phrase: endowed by Creator with unalienable rights. Meaning government cannot morally infringe on the individual because of God.
That doesn’t mean (or insult) others cannot espouse a view that smaller government, lower taxes, etc are better. But I truly think that they espouse conservative doctrine as a best option, and not as a conservative who derives the authority of his position on faith in a Creator.
A distinction that has little practical application you may say, and that is largely true. But the origin of your “rights” is what separates people. The left, almost universally, believes “rights” are created and ensured by social organizations, including government.
Spirit of 1776 on March 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
You’re free to point to someone, or some group that has declared no one is allowed to criticize Rush. I certainly can’t think of any. The only instances i’ve seen of people getting upset are when dems and the media try to marginalize Limbaugh, what’s wrong with that? It’s in Republicans best interest not to let them marginalize popular advocates on our behalf.
clearbluesky on March 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Praying you’re correct, friend.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
This is one of the most racist posts I’ve ever seen anywhere. And you say this while we have Michael Steele as our party chairman. You are dispicable.
Atlanta Voter on March 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Whats really needed is a leader who gets out there and really makes the case for conservatism in a passionate way that average people can understand and identify with. A leader who wont take any crap from the Democrats and calls the Media on their bias and Bullshit and gets in their face about it. A leader who inspires the party base to hit the streets and drum up support for Republican candidates and get out the vote efforts.
Dreadnought223 on March 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Look the reason Obama won is that the democrats pour millions into GOTV groups like ACORN and others to circumvent the finance laws and pay to get millions of voters out with a massive buying of votes.
The GOP doesnt need to do that but it does need to build a counter to that. That is where Michael Steele is failing
William Amos on March 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I’d stomp my phone if I got that text. So, is it the Libertarian part or the atheistic part that makes them beta males? Maybe its the boys part. Still, take what you will from them and leave them wanting the rest of their lives.
genso on March 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Both shoveled horse crap, Reagan literally, Obama politically.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any, though I know I’ve disagreed with him on rare occasion.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Wait, you’re serious, aren’t you?
??????????
Insulting, no doubt.
Racist?????????
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Is that the agnostic version of “I have black friends, so I can use the n-word.”? I like it, it’s cute.
It was just a fair warning to you. If you don’t care if you insult Christ and people who actually follow His teachings, there isn’t much I can do about it. Carry on.
TMK on March 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Sorry, Madison, but you’re just dead wrong on this. The idiot messiah and the lunatic Congress can easily do irreparable damage to this country and can, in fact, destroy this nation. They are working very hard at it and if they pass all the legislation they want, they will achieve exactly that destruction.
Just look at the last election and the amazing spread of insanity around our country. That is how bad things can get. Then look at the moronic porkulus and how that was rammed through (it still hasn’t started yet, but it had to be passed on that Friday … and then waited for signing until Monday …).
This nation can be destroyed and we are facing this prospect, directly. It is an active fight that we are now engaged in.
progressoverpeace on March 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Tasteless, maybe. Racist? Come on now.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
“That is where Michael Steele is failing”
He’s been in his position less than two months.
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Explain how this is racist, or will you just call me names because you can’t.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM
What Steele doesn’t get is that when he insulted Rush, he insulted all of his listeners (possible Republican contributors) who agree with him. The same applies with his Nazi comparison. He has insulted all who were there. It’s not so smart to insult the ones you supposedly represent. (unless you are Murtha)
conservativemama on March 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
old trooper2 on March 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
And not done one damn thing other than go on TV.
William Amos on March 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
The color of feces is brown.
Atlanta Voter on March 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
+1
And he should take steps to acquire these skills and share them with other Republicans in the media’s eye, IMO.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 8:03 PM
RACIST!!
Spirit of 1776 on March 2, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I wasn’t meaning to say that faith, or lack of, was unconnected to the inclination of one to have a conservative mindset. I was stating that they are independent of each other. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have people from every faith voting both liberal and conservative.
I might add that the mention of the Creator explicitly avoids naming any ethereal being, probably because Jefferson wrote it, and we know he was hardly devout. My point is more focused towards some of the fundamentalists who start claiming that non-Christians cannot be true conservatives, or atheists who start giving faithful people crap for believing ID, none of it is helping, and all of it is hurting.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 8:04 PM
That’s not true; he cleaned out the old staff.
Spirit of 1776 on March 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
He might as well be Katie Couric.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
“And not done one damn thing other than go on TV.”
Do you actually know anything about what he’s done, or not done? Could you give some concrete examples of what successful National Committee Chairs have done in their first two months? Or are you just basically pissed at him?
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
You know I do miss having Gov. Barbour from Mississippi running the RNC..he wouldn’t have taken the bait and he would have stayed on offense.
Broomy on March 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Blagojevich is impeached. Obama’s cabinent is tax dodgers. John Murtha is wallowing in crooked money. Chris Dodd is deep in financial doo doo. Obama and the entire Democratic party just pasted the biggest democratic party bailout out in history.
And what is Micheal Steele’s Focus ? Getting more “hip hop” and shaking his head when the left trashes Rush.
Now again tell me what Steele is doing good ?????
William Amos on March 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Thank you. Your empty indignance is also cute. I just love those who still throw a fit over “blasphemy” that isn’t blaspheming anything. If I had started with “Lord”, would you be pissed? It means the same, you know.
MadisonConservative on March 2, 2009 at 8:07 PM
I take it you’ve not had kids. I’ve seen it brown, black, yellow, and even green. Colorful little poopers, those kids.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Yes, I get your point. It’s a discussion for a later thread. You might be surprised about Jefferson, though. He kept certain things very private; therefore certain assumptions become accepted fact.
Spirit of 1776 on March 2, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Those rights only can be ensured as long as the government that identifies them endures. The Creator made man long before his protection from unreasonable search or cruel punishment was enforced.
The founders who identified those rights were taking them out of the hands of politicians rather than codifying a particular religious teaching.
dedalus on March 2, 2009 at 8:07 PM
I say, dear chap…
you just stepped in it.
Saltysam on March 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
I’m so glad there was a successful troll-drive here recently. This piece of crap should have been canned yesterday after the 4th or 5th “transexual” post it made in the Ann Coulter thread.
Marcus on March 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
You and Allah posited that we Conservatives worship Rush “like Jesus.”
I don’t know about you, but we all know only too well that AP is an atheist and he is continually accusing us of making various people false gods: Rush, Sarah Palin, etc. All the time, every day.
The way I feel about Rush, Palin, President Bush or any other human being in no way is like the way I feel about my Savior. It’s just a completely different thing and if you’re a person of faith, you’ll know what I’m talking about.
But to be a fan of Rush or a supporter of Bush or Palin is not to worship a false god, nor to be a member of a cult, unless you call Conservatism a cult.
Personally, I still find all the “Messiah” references to Ogabe to be blasphemous and offensive, although many of his supporters do worship him like a god and are like a cult.
Jenfidel on March 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Me, too. He never apologized, never danced for the media. Good man.
genso on March 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
“Since the new Obama Regime is kicking Dean to the curb you may want to reserve comment.”
Exactly what that I said is incorrect? How many House and Senate seats did the Democrats have before Dean came in? How many do they have now? How many House seats actually changed hands in districts where ACORN has any sway at all? (I can answer that one: NONE, since they are all Democrat safe seats.)
notropis on March 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Steele should resign immediately. We must stop the self destruction. Steeles comments about Rush and CPAC were too damaging for any apology. Michael resign now for the good of the party.
Dennis D on March 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Wow I thought my side ate their young, you guys are above and beyond Democrats in ferocity and speed in tearing down your own party. I thought Obama made a huge mistake calling out Rushbo a while back, but as usual Obama knew exactly what he was doing. Obama sets the trap, you guys rush headlong right into it. Wow, I love when a plan comes together. See ya at the polls in 2010.
athensboy on March 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
I’m behind in this thread so am not sure if anybody has answered this yet: I don’t think he actually said it himself, but he either agreed with it or allowed the comment to pass unchallenged, I’m not sure which.
FloatingRock on March 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
. . . okay to criticize Rush. Since when?
You guys crack me up with this. You have annointed Rush as the be all and end all of conservatism and the Republican party. I remember when Huck took a swipe at exactly this thing during the primaries, and AP and everyone here exulted about how it would ruin his candidacy and how no one gets to the White House without Rush’s backing.
You love his power when it suits your purpose. Well here’s the flip side of the coin. You have made him the face of the party with your fawning fealty. Now he’s an easy target for liberals and Dems and a bludgeon to be used against conservatism in general. Every verbal stumble, every ill thought out phrase will be replayed over and over on every in-the-tank media outlet.
It’s a little too late to make plaintive remarks about how it’s really okay to disagree with Rush. It isn’t. You made it so.
postaldog on March 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
I’m talking archetypes; what adults see. I have two sons, been married five years to a wonderful wife.
Atlanta Voter on March 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Your all suckers by even taking the Bait!!!!!Hello!!!Who cares in the he said she said BS!!!WE HAVE SERIOUS ECONOMIC PROBLEMS AND Bambi, the wicked witch of the west and the boys want to create this issue to take our eye off the ball!!!
Political Chef on March 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
ROFL! Ain’t it the truth?
Troll fever hit Lucianne.com recently, too.
There was a poster on Sunday that said that Hannity should be shot and Rush pistol whipped.
It was eventually deleted, happily.
Jenfidel on March 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Bishop @ 6:41 PM
Raw Deal, Schwarzenegger 1981
OlympicLeprechaun on March 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM
I take it humor isn’t your strong suit. It is very hard to take seriously actual instances of racism when every thing has become racist.
jimmy2shoes on March 2, 2009 at 8:13 PM
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