EPA to regulate … dust

posted at 9:40 am on March 2, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Remember when Democrats painted themselves as the farmer’s best friend?  Here in Minnesota, the Democrats call themselves the Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party as a reminder, and even through last year Democrats stumped heavily in the Midwest with their populist agenda.  I wonder whether farmers will still consider Democrats their friends when Barack Obama regulates farm dust — and penalizes them when the wind blows:

Nothing says summer in Iowa like a cloud of dust behind a combine.

But what may be a fact of life for farmers is a cause for concern to federal regulators, who are refusing to exempt growers from new environmental regulations.

It’s left some farmers feeling bemused and more than a little frustrated.

“It’s such a non-commonsense idea that you can keep dust within a property line when the wind blows,” said Sen. Charles Grassley, a member of the Senate Agriculture Committee who still farms in northeast Iowa.

Under rules imposed in 2006, rural areas would be kept to the same standards as urban areas for what the Environmental Protection Agency calls “coarse particulate matter” in the air.

Why regulate farm dust?  As the American Farm Bureau Federation rightly points out, no one has ever proved that farm dust represents a health threat to any community.  The EPA had held off from enforcing the regulation in rural areas absent such a finding.  Now they want to impose the rule absent studies showing no harm, in effect telling the ag sector to prove a negative.

Now, farmers will be held accountable when their dust moves outside of their property lines and towards towns and villages.  That will impose extra cost on them depending on which way the wind blows, an excellent metaphor for Congress but a deadly imposition on a farm sector already struggling with an economic turndown and falling land prices.  The compliance costs to keep dust tamped down will be enormous, and will force out the smaller farmers who can least afford the mitigation costs.  It pushes the productive family farm even further into the anachronism category.

Not only that, but it will encourage more use of fresh water on farms, eating into another natural resource.  The best and cheapest way for farmers to keep dust in check is to overwater their fields and dirt roads.  The threat of EPA fines will almost certainly create a significant and needless use of water, which will create shortages in some areas.  Where water rationing already exists, it will press smaller farmers out of business in that way as well.

The key to regulation, and especially environmental regulation, is balance.  We need a strong agricultural sector to produce food as inexpensively as possible with maximum efficiency to keep us fed and healthy.  Dust may provide some health risks, but nothing as acute as poverty and starvation, which existed in much more significant scale in the US before the Green Revolution of the 20th century.  The EPA will eventually send us back to those days and our children back to hunger if some grown-ups don’t take charge.


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Dust is a natural part of the environment, as is methane, CO2, etc. Unless someone is intentionally using dust to harm others, the EPA needs to go pound sand….or dust.

Tell you what though….the first farmer that demands the EPA prove the “offending dust” was his will get a check from me to help offset any fine.

Patrick S on March 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

What better way to drive those pesky independent people(farmers) into extinction for the good of the commune. Once they’re all gone, obamasia can implement the state communal farm collective and finally get control of the food supply. Then the socialists will control all energy, banks, food, and unions, Utopia is just around the corner, just ask the Dhimmicrats.

cdn.infidel on March 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Ah Utopia! Dare to dream.

larvcom on March 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Utopia is just around the corner, just ask the Dhimmicrats.

cdn.infidel on March 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Capitalism—Gone with the Wind

Rovin on March 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Um…. question…

Under what Constitutional authority can Congress regulate Dust?

If it does not cross state lines, no interstate commerce applys…

This is DUST, not a general pollutant. Its a strictly localized issue.

Romeo13 on March 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I grew up in rural America. Dust is an everyday occurrence. Even now, living in Wichita, windy spring days brings in a lot of dust from Oklahoma and Texas. Mayber states can start suing each other over blowing dust.

Not having lived in a coastal area with lots of beaches, I wonder if the sand doesn’t blow around causing health concerns. Let’s regulate beach sand and start with Cap Cod.

This is nuts. Farmers will be forced to plant grasses and forget about seasonal crops. A lot of farm land is not irrigated. Even if it was, water tables are dropping in many areas, and watering is not an option.

bopbottle on March 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Eh, dust, exhalation, we’re all going to pay. I can’t wait for my friends who voted dhimmicrat to complain about the 0ne and his administration so I can tell them they’ve got to live with the consequences of voting on emotion and celebrity.

4shoes on March 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Romeo13 on March 2, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Silly conservative, the Constitution is a living, breathing document (i.e. it means whatever the SCOTUS says it means, not what you might think it means).

rockhead on March 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM

The key to regulation, and especially environmental regulation, is balance.

The problem Ed is global warming truthers are inherently unbalanced. We’re doomed Ed. Didn’t you get the memo? Now send Sean Penn and the Sierra Club a check.

BKennedy on March 2, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Fugitive waste

The label of fugitive waste is more dramatic than dust. In road construction, they now require a truck that sprinkles water on the dirt to control “pollution”

seven on March 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Insanity. Hubris. Delusions of grandure.

Liberals seem unable to appreciate that government can not command the winds and waves. Consider the screaming about Bush “causing” Katrina.

Sackett on March 2, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Fugitive waste?

Isn’t that how to describe most of the Obama Cabinet and White House?

coldwarrior on March 2, 2009 at 11:38 AM

What about cow sized flourescent orange vests?

MarkTheGreat on March 2, 2009 at 11:07 AM

I hold the patent on the bullet-resistant ones

DarkCurrent on March 2, 2009 at 11:44 AM

No dust in the air, no rainstorms, not rainstorms, DUST BOWL

Then rainstorms. You can’f fool mother nature.

By the way.

Is Rod Serling working at the EPA. He sure is getting a load of new stories for The Twighlight Zone

Burgher on March 2, 2009 at 11:45 AM

OK…let me see if I have this correctly. First, we shouldn’t exhale and now we won’t be able to eat. That should take care of the luxury toilet paper problem too.

Kissmygrits on March 2, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I was thinking that our borough sends the street cleaner out and it sure does cause a lot of dust.

My town is doomed.

becki51758 on March 2, 2009 at 11:53 AM

How long before they tax the gas we release from our bottom?

Be_Aware on March 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM

ROFLOL…hilarious!

mauipundit on March 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM

What’s next? The dust bunnies under the bed?
Wethal on March 2, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Michelle Obama is in charge of this. Barack has his hands full destroying our economy.

Shoot, why not have the EPA regulate birth? There are millennia of data, across all species, that link being born to dying. Birth causes death. It must be regulated.
rbj on March 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM

The EPA must be unfamiliar with the concept of, Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

Buy Danish on March 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM

Global Warming Slide Show D.C. got Ten inches over night…I have not heard how is the Global Warming Protest going? The biggest one ever!

Dr Evil on March 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM

I can’t believe it, they are going ahead with the global warming protest in the snow at 1:00 Eastern Time “The Theme Coal Is Bad” sure and we wouldn’t want anyone keeping jobs in the Coal Industry right now in this Economy/sarc……I hope someone from the media will be there to take pictures.

http://www.capitolclimateaction.org/

Dr Evil on March 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM

The key to regulation, and especially environmental regulation, is balance.

Apparently you’ve never dealt with State or Federal environmental regulatory agencies before. It’s like someone up-ended the nerdery and spilled forth the unwashed hippie nerds. They’ll swoop in clad in armored pocket protectors to bend you to their pseudo-science.

Wyznowski on March 2, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Giggling

Dr Evil on March 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Al Gore wants to tax us for the air we breath and the EPA wants to tax farmers for the wind. Any excuse will serve tyrants and that is what we are seeing.

Maxx on March 2, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Michelle Obama is in charge of this. Barack has his hands full destroying our economy.

Buy Danish on March 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM

They’re too busy fiddling while Rome burns. Every Wednesday is Pahh-tay night at the new Obama crib. Yes yes y’all, I know your broke, but we gettin our freak on..and it’s all on your dime! Haha.

Alden Pyle on March 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM

How long before they tax the gas we release from our bottom?

Be_Aware on March 2, 2009 at 9:45 AM

ROFLOL…hilarious!

mauipundit on March 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM

I can only encourage everyone to be vigilant to let the EPA know just what they think of this kind of stuff. Unfortunately, the EPA has a vehicle to regulate this. It is worth looking at the EPA climate change web site, specifically at the Announcement Prior to Rule Making, and the text I’ll paste below, from page 185 from the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2008. (How this reporting is being paid for) Of course this is a very slippery slope, and it isn’t that long of a stretch to tax all of us for breathing and other *ahem* gaseous emissions due to global climate change…

Of the funds provided in the Environmental Programs and Management account, not less than $3,500,000 shall be provided for activities to develop and publish a draft rule not later than 9 months after the date of enactment of this Act, and a final rule not later than 18 months after the date of enactment of this Act, to require mandatory reporting of greenhouse gas emissions above appropriate thresholds in all sectors of the economy of the United States.

Unfortunately, I’m only being slightly facetious.

Marine_Bio on March 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Why regulate farm dust? As the American Farm Bureau Federation rightly points out, no one has ever proved that farm dust represents a health threat to any community.

Ed Morrissey

Even if it is harmful, what’s more harmful, dust or having no food?

And lets say that you are living near a farm and exposed to whatever harmful effect, no matter how small, when the EPA taxes farmers do YOU suppose the EPA plans on giving that money to YOU? Don’t make me laugh, no one will ever know where that money goes. The EPA will use it to make themselves even bigger and more oppressive.

Looks to me like the farmers are the new terrorist in the eyes of the Obama administration. Give a billion dollars to Hamas and attack the USA farmers. That is exactly what I expected from this Commie Administration, believe it or not.

Instead of a war on terror we now have a war on farmers.

Maxx on March 2, 2009 at 12:55 PM

This is absolutely the dumbest thing I have ever heard of.

WTF is the B.O. Administration do when/if there is a Volcano that blows? TAX THAT? It is dust, but a hell of a lot more harmful then regualr dust!

Good Grief, these people must live in a bubble… void of dust.. or real people!

upinak on March 2, 2009 at 1:08 PM

its as if they want to prevent another Great Depression Catastrophe Crisis and or Calamity….The Dust Bowl….

I just LOVE how every “problem” they try and prevent or avoid creates at least ten more…i wonder if they realize how this will effect their precious Ethanol…extremist do not communicate very well…do they…

alexraye on March 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM

The EPA should be disbanded. Law enforcement is law enforcement. Just ask the LA environmental crime unit.

darktood on March 2, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Why are we surprised?

This is the Party that calls our very breath a pollutant.

Montana on March 2, 2009 at 1:15 PM

I’m all over this $hit.
I told you all how they love to regulate us out here.
Cow tax, manipulating the Clean air & Water Act to drive us out of business (your cow poops in the water-so you must be regulated if your cows have access to a ‘water source’ for X amount of time etc…) now they want to regulate ‘particulate matter’.
This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so frightening.
We don’t farm. And lots of folks out here have gone into no-till farming (means spraying more chemicals= big chemical companies get lots of $$). This will result in more no-till & more CHEMICALS being used to make your food.
Sometimes no-till is a better method in a certain area, sometimes not.
There is also land that should never be farmed, hence CRP (Conservation Reserve Program)-which basically pays farmers not to farm highly erodable land.
In the end, all this ag regulation is doing nothing but advance corporate agribusiness.
Ag-biz cares NOTHING for you, the land, or its animals.
The individual producer DOES care, or they go out of business.
Big AG gets more govt $$ to farm/not to farm bcs they have LOADS of capital & buying power bcs of all their tied up organizations. When looking at the bottom line over a wide range of entities they own, they can afford to let animals STARVE & land go to hell & still make an overall profit.
This is one area that Big Business should be disallowed to be in.
In a large area around Selfridge ND, McLaughlin SD there is a big absentee ‘ranch’ owner out of FL.
Reports have it he has over 1000 buffalo.
They are STARVING bcs the guys he hired have no haying equipment to speak of to make hay & evidently aren’t able to feed them.
These animals require over 200 1 1/2 ton round bales PER DAY.
Bcs of the hard winter & all the snow we’ve had here, these animals are rampaging through the country.
This guy gets several million $$/year from the govt from all his ‘farming & ranching’ operations.
Big AG cares for NOTHING except the bottom line.
You watch-just like poultry & hog & other farming operations, this will drive farmers & ranchers who are already hanging on by a thread into bankruptcy.
Or they may sell out to developers & put ag land out of production.
Either way-your food is going to cost more.
Thanks Obama, you worthless SOB.

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:16 PM

I added some music Jim Carrey impersonating Snow -Impostors.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/03/global-warming-informers.html

Dr Evil on March 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM

Remember Hoover and FDR? What else happened back then? Ever hear of the Dust Bowl? What if history does repeat itself? Bush, then 0bama, and then what if we have another drought in the corn belt and the wheat belt?

Then millions will die.

cjs1943 on March 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM

…no one has ever proved that farm dust represents a health threat to any community.

HA! No one has ever proved that human activity is responsible for global warming climate change. That isn’t stopping The One from levying fines on coal producers.

Kafir on March 2, 2009 at 1:26 PM

HA! No one has ever proved that human activity is responsible for global warming climate change weather.

mchristian on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

cjs1943 on March 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM

The dustbowl even won’t happen again. The only reason it happened was bcs people didn’t understand that the Great Plains experience historic cyclic, periodic drought. Just prior to the dustbowl, people who had moved from other areas to the Plains states encountered unusually wet years & just continued the farming practices they had always practiced back home.
But when drought conditions came back (as they normally do here), their plowing techniques created havoc.
Now we have developed smarter ways to farm & this kind of erosion won’t happen on such a large scale again.
But they ARE opening the door for Big AGribusiness to make ‘corporate’ food for everyone!

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

wet years & just continued the farming practices they had always practiced back home….

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Isn’t it also that the tractor became cheaper and more widely used prior to the dust bowl? Old practices, on a larger scale.

Marine_Bio on March 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM

But they ARE opening the door for Big AGribusiness to make ‘corporate’ food for everyone!

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

‘Corporate’ food washed down with ‘corporate’ water.
/s

thomasaur on March 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM

The dustbowl even won’t happen again
Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Badger, that is kind of a misnomer. It can happen again, but we have advanced well enough to realize what we need. Breaks in the margin for crops with trees (treelines). Letting the field take a break helps, and letting cows or horses graze on those break feilds works as well. Smaller wells for water does help as well and the fact that small ponds in the area do not need to be filled and should be used.

There is more information now concerning how to farm and what not to do.

But I do agree with you on the corporate food analogy.

upinak on March 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

I know about and agree with you on the changes to farming practices. But, what I was alluding to was a drought, where there is no rain and therefore nothing can grow. The drought in the Dirty 30’s went on for years. My Dad lived through that and he told us many stories about those times.

cjs1943 on March 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Old practices, on a larger scale.

Marine_Bio on March 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM

That, too.

upinak on March 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM

It won’t happen on that scale again in the US.
Africa, India, China? Probably.

cjs1943 on March 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM

I get it. We in SW ND have gone through a drought for the last 10 years. Don’t know what this spring will bring, but this is the 1st winter since 96-97 we’ve gotten some real snow.
In the Northern Plains, tree ring analyses have confirmed severe periodic droughts throughout at least the last 6 thousands years or so.
Seems like we experience them in like 10-20 yr cycles ranging from bad to moderate.
But the grasses up here can still grow with very little moisture. It does not necessarily have to rain or rain all that much to get growth here.
Nutrients end up more concentrated in shorter growth.
Cattle up here actually do better during a drought & you don’t even have to feed them creep feed, just let them graze.
Dry land farming techniques save soil moisture & soil from blowing away.
If you’re a bad farmer, you won’t stay in business for long.
There are good regulations & bad ones.
But as a steward of the land, it’s suicidal for me to harm my grass production by overgrazing (which causes faster erosion etc.). In a drought cycle, I will have harmed plant growth for the next year.
AgBiz can take the loss of overgrazing.
The ranch I spoke about above-you would be absolutely SHOCKED to look at the 40,000+acres out there.
At least a couple thousand acres I’ve seen with my own eyes are bare ground have been for the last 5 YEARS.
And the guy STILL gets govt payments!
But nobody seems to care about this $hit.
They only care about regulating the little guy into extinction & then wonder why this $hit continues to happen.
WHEW.
Sorry for the rant.
It just hits me so close to home!

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I need funding for my new project. It will cost billions, but it will create jobs and clean energy.

Through a series of giant windmills, windmill powered fans and fairies, I think I can divert all of the dust from the midwest and dump it all into Washington DC.

I realize that there is a unicorn shortage (and I want to know why it hasn’t been reported), and that will hamper efforts. I have decided to use trolls instead to do some of the grunt work – turning the windmills in the absence of wind. Now everyone knows; trolls hate fairies and vice versa, so I will need a great many mediators. I will need people to clean up after the trolls, I will need scientists to fabricate data to make the project look worthwhile, and I will also need translators who speak both troll and fairy.

I have also contracted with The Sandman to provide bulk sand supply through our various sand collection filters.

I am really enjoying Lollipop and Gumdrop World, many business opportunities – the real world, not so much.

reaganaut on March 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I figured you were talking on the scale. But I am glad you stated that.

And I care…. oh believe me.

Alaska has quite a bit of farming. But even with the snow we can have drought and have until the last few years. Mainly due to rain problems. Just because we get snow, it can turn to ice and sub zero’s and kill the growth under neath. You would know this first hand as N.D. has the same issues at times.

The last drought was bad… and the fact that volcanic ash killed the plant roots due to sulferic acid.

The Gov don’t get it, nor does the EPA.

upinak on March 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

OSHA has dust particulates well documented as a hazard in the workplace and most finely ground products (kaolin clay, titanium dioxide, etc.) have inhalation hazards associated with them on their MSDS.

I can see how stupid people environmentalists could extrapolate that if dust can be controlled for worker safety in the workplace why not in the great outdoors.

The author who stated above that the only way is through increased water usage is correct and everyone knows we’ve got lots of that. (Just ask California)

I suggest the farmers solve the problem the same way industry solves it when there are no other controls available. Supply dust masks. Their about .20 apiece so a couple thousand dollars buys 10,000 dust masks. You would also have to supply training in the usage of said dust mask but that could be afforded by a single sheet of paper and offered where the masks are distributed.

I guarantee the farmer that this practice will only last a year or two. He just has to be sure that the people are required to come to a central point and pick up their mask. Within three years there will be next to no one picking up a mask.

Ernest on March 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Ernest on March 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Why can’t they just ask Obama to make it rain more?

reaganaut on March 2, 2009 at 1:57 PM

LOL

Ernest on March 2, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Is anyone else getting tired of being insulted by these incompetents, Harry Reid. doesn’t like tourists to the capital because they smell. Shumer, it’s okay for them to do what they want because we don’t care. Holder, we are all cowards. Obama, bible clinging. gun loving. Murtha, all PA. are rednecks (this one is okay because I am a redneck and proud of it). I mean these are PUBLIC SERVANTS?????

concernedsenior on March 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM

There seems to be no end of liberal/socialist/communist crazy ideas but their end goal is to achieve ultimate tyrannical power over everybodies lives from birth to death.

docdave on March 2, 2009 at 2:27 PM

The drought in the Dirty 30’s went on for years.

The great plains was once refered by the name The Great American Desert. You can still see sand dunes in west Texas (Midland area) and in Colorado.

docdave on March 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM

I’ve got it! Let’s just quit digging up the ground! And let’s quit eating, too!

After all, it hurts those poor widdle ears of corn to eat them.

Alana on March 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM

What dusty gravel roads need is more oil!

Dusty on March 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Drill here, drill now.

Johan Klaus on March 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Johan Klaus on March 2, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Drill here! Drill now!

Time to dust off my copies of my US Army FM 3-21, and especially FM 3-25-150.

coldwarrior on March 2, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I think that there will be more and more of this type of thing because there are lots of attorneys out of work now looking for opportunities to make $$. These issues will be dug out of the Code of Federal Regs and Clean Air Act, etc. Then there will be clients on both sides for them to bill. Groups that they induce to state that the dust (water, etc.) does harm will file suits and then the farmers (truckers, etc,) will have to lawyer up to protect their livelihoods. The EPA will have to go out to audit farmers, truckers, et al to prove the agency is doing their job and justify their existence. The (hidden) costs are paid by us in higher prices.

mph on March 2, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Who is running a combine in the summer?

Combine harvester — or simply combine, also known as a thresher is a machine that combines the tasks of harvesting, threshing, and cleaning grain crops. The objective is to complete these three processes, which used to be distinct, in one pass of the machine over a particular part of the field

Planting in the spring, maintaining in the summer, harvesting in the fall — at least that is how it was when I was working on farms growing up. Occasionally you will see a combine in the summer on certain crops and fields — but this IOWA, king of CORN. Harvested in Sept. Oct.

Too bad the AP doesn’t get outside the city much.
David

LifeTrek on March 2, 2009 at 3:57 PM

Nothing says summer in Iowa like a cloud of dust behind a combine.

Tooling around in a combine runs $30 to $60 bucks an acre.

Just for emphasis let me repeat this because it made me laugh.

In autumn, corn is harvested with combines.

Ag in the classroom teachers resource pdf.
David

LifeTrek on March 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM

They’re trying to starve us out.

– The Cat

P.S. What if farmers just say ok, we won’t plant anything this year.

MirCat on March 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Big AGribusiness to make ‘corporate’ food for everyone!

Is that like soilent green?

Burgher on March 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM

P.S. What if farmers just say ok, we won’t plant anything this year.

MirCat on March 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Then their bankers would say “Pay up or lose everything!”
Trust me-I would love for us all to stop producing food just so we could see what happens.
We are stuck in a vicious cycle.

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Is that like soilent green?

Burgher on March 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Maybe. You know, USDA does not really inspect food processing plants anymore.
They have recently adopted a self-regulating approach to food safety (i.e what’s in it!).
Does that make you feel any better?

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Ernest on March 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Just another cost the retail sector will not pay the farmer for, but will make YOU pay for.
Just another screwing at the bottom line.

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM

upinak on March 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Back in the ’80s when a lot of farmland wasn’t in CRP, people had been digging up everything like crazy. Then the winds blew & blew & a LOT of soil was lost. Some was just transported to the pasture or field next door.
But where was the EPA then? Hmmm?
I am with you.
They only care when they can screw you out of something.
I am so disgusted by this crap I could puke.

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The EPA will have to go out to audit farmers, truckers, et al to prove the agency is doing their job and justify their existence. The (hidden) costs are paid by us in higher prices.

mph on March 2, 2009 at 3:19 PM

They are already in the works in doing this.
Recently EPA/Game & Fish folks have been coming out here for several years to ‘assess’ how many cows were are feeding & where in relation to water sources.
We leased a place at where a major stream emptied into a river & the corral sat right at the confluence.
They told us we could only feed so many head there for a couple of weeks & that is it for the whole year.
I agree to a point. But more intrusion for us is coming.
We have a major river that winds through our ranch.
I can see them telling us to fence of the river so our cows cannot drink out of it. This would be impossible because of its sinuous nature.
I really believe that’s what it will come to for us here.

Badger40 on March 2, 2009 at 5:12 PM

The key to regulation, and especially environmental regulation, is balance fascism.

Fixed it for ya, Ed. Nobody is having their rights actively violated by farm dust, so it should not be considered a criminal matter. That the government considers it a criminal matter means that the government is actively engaged in the violation of rights.

hicsuget on March 2, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Another way to keep dust down on a dirt road is to oil it.
Truthfully,,, in every sense of the word,, these people are ruthless and moronic. We will be destroyed as a nation,,, utterly crumble to nothing,, unless revival comes and conservatives retake power.
Repeal! Repeal! Repeal!
That is all I want to hear any Republican running for anything anywhere commit to! Do not talk about adding some new law here or some new policy there!! Just repeal! Repeal and repeal some more!!

JellyToast on March 2, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Someone better put a stopper in Mt. St.Helens

blr2449 on March 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Dust is a natural part of the environment, as is methane, CO2, etc. Unless someone is intentionally using dust to harm others, the EPA needs to go pound sand….or dust.

Patrick S on March 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM

That is insane. Haven’t you ever heard of the legal concept of negligence ? If a company fails to properly contain hazards, and they injure someone, good intentions don’t matter. If I fail to install ventilation to remove naturally produced methane on my property, and someone is hurt in the resulting explosion, I will be sued into oblivion.

OmegaPaladin on March 2, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Ok so when someone drives down the county road in front of my house that just happens to be dirt, who gets fined for the dust? The driver or the county government?

boomer on March 2, 2009 at 9:26 PM

That is insane. Haven’t you ever heard of the legal concept of negligence ? If a company fails to properly contain hazards, and they injure someone, good intentions don’t matter. If I fail to install ventilation to remove naturally produced methane on my property, and someone is hurt in the resulting explosion, I will be sued into oblivion.

If what you say is true, having a fire on ones land and the burning of combustibles like forrest or grass fires is obviously a negligent act of createind an attractive nuisance for lightning to start fires.

No case law for these claims.

seven on March 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM