Andy in Agoura Hills on March 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM

And you’re a moron. Why don’t you start the AIPAC party? Seems to be all you care about.

DFCtomm on March 1, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Then, don’t fly. Planes are still going down, even though it’s a heavily regulated industry. Government does nothing right. Under a free market, there would be more competition, more innovation, private safety standards, and cheaper flights

That’s not JohnGalt saying it… it’s GWB.

Once again, even Bilx states that some WMD was found in Iraq.
THAT IS A FACT!
Try using them and you won’t come off as more of an idiot than you already do.

The fact that you can not handle facts and have to create your own bubble where reality does not get in the way of your rhetoric shows your true ignorance on the issues and the simpleton ways in which you address them.

I have no time for cowardly children, as I’ve spent too much time on you already.

JohnGalt23 on March 1, 2009 at 2:44 AM

Liberal speak for “I can’t back up my bullsh!t drivel”.

After reading your post,”wasting time” is apparently your only strong suit.

Your faux superior attitude shows you to be nothing but a little kid jumping up in the middle of the room with his hands over his ears yelling “I am right!!!! I am right!!!

How ironic that someone who states that “9/11 was not a threat to our National Security” thinks he is in a position
to judge competency.

The fact that countries around the world are spending trillions of dollars,thousands of man hours,and major policy decisions to defeat the ” Islamo-terrorists under every bed you cawer (the word is cower genius)in”

shows just how much of an imbecile you are in addressing this issue.

What a joke.

The free market is self regulating.

Libertarian Joseph on March 1, 2009 at 10:45 AM

The free market is self regulating to the extent it punishes bad behavior, and that is the only preventative measure it contains. Lets say I want to fly somewhere and there are no regulations other than free market forces and I have chosen a “bad” airline. My plane goes down due to no maintenance. The market will indeed punish the airline thanks to the bad press and lawsuits, however I will still be dead. While if there was a system of regulations, even imperfect ones, governing required minimum maintenance then I might be alive.

What does CPAC have to do with pushing Israel’s national security?

Libertarian Joseph on March 1, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Did I mention Israel? But thanks for proving my point, Jew-hating pr-ck.

Watching this, I thought of Limbaugh’s point about wanting The One to fail. Rush assumes, at least tacitly, that Obama’s loss will be mainstream Republicans’ gain. I’m not so sure. The more desperate things get economically, the more appeal Paul’s paleocon message will have and the more legitimized isolationism will become by extension. Be careful what you wish for.

I’m not for total isolationism, but I definitely am for Ron Paul’s economics. Austrian economics is the ONLY way to go to create unfettered wealth in this country. There will still be poor, but they will be richer than they were.

Why is this Jew-hating pr-ck allowed an audience at the CPAC? Shame on CPAC.

Andy in Agoura Hills on March 1, 2009 at 12:33 PM

What does CPAC have to do with pushing Israel’s national security?

“JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2009 at 12:02 AM”

read the post moron, you called me “ignorant”

/bong need a refill?

Buckaroo on February 28, 2009 at 12:04 AM

Well, you are.

youngTXcon on February 27, 2009 at 11:09 PM

The free market is self regulating.

For starters, there are NO democratic procedures, in any meaningful sense, in place in the EU today.

Charles Martel on February 28, 2009 at 10:49 PM

Charles, that’s an exaggeration. There are democratic procedures in the EU, and within the member states. I’ll grant you the ones governing the EU are not exactly what I would call “robust”, but they certainly surpass the democratic procedures some fools on this board are touting in Iraq or Afghanistan.

But it’s not so much the procedures I’m referring to; rather, it is the exposure to a philosophical history critical to what we would call “liberal democracy”. Most of the citizenry of Europe have had exposure to the ideals put forth by Locke, Rousseau, Mill, Machiavelli, and all the other thinkers that form an intellectual continuum from the Renaissance to the Enlightenment. It is those ideals, much more so than political procedures that would prevent the nihilism of Wahabbi Islam from taking hold on a national or supernational level.

I’ll grant you, political correctness, lax immigration policies, multiculturalism and other forces are allowing Islam to gain ground over Christendom, at least in Europe. And, with the caveat that Islam is not in and of itself bad, I’ll also grant you that this is probably not a healthy development for Europe.

But there is a wide gulf between saying Islam will wield political influence in Europe, and Wahabbi death cultists for whom threat of annihilation means nothing will get ahold of a nuclear arsenal. The former is going to happen, and Europe will have nobody to blame but themselves. The latter is simply improbable to a high degree.

It looks like we’ve reached an impasse. I’m not going to convince you that Europe will fall, and you’re not going to convince me that it will stand, but time will tell the tell.

DFCtomm on February 28, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Fair enough.

Baxter Greene on February 28, 2009 at 9:36 PM

The WMD’s weren’t there.

That’s not JohnGalt saying it… it’s GWB.

Bush On WMD

Now, look, I — part of the reason we went into Iraq: was — the main reason we went into Iraq: at the time was we thought he had weapons of mass destruction. It turns out he didn’t

There you go… POTUS speaks. Accept it. You seem to have blindly accepted everything else he fed you.

The fact is, Baxter, you’re an amateur, and you’re scared. You see Islamo-terrorists under every bed you cawer in, and threats to our security, when no such thing exists.

I have no time for cowardly children, as I’ve spent too much time on you already.

He’s also needs to brush up on his history…

So this makes three things America’s Greatest Patriot has in common with Obama: They both oppose the war, they both lead their own cults, and neither one understands that Afghans aren’t Arabs. But never mind that. I’m sure I’ve asked this question before but I’m compelled to ask again. Does Ron Paul realize that he voted for the war in Afghanistan? We’re used to seeing pols repudiate their war votes, but at least when Hillary and Edwards do it they feel obliged to feign remorse and lament the error of their ways. Paul, by contrast, plows right on ahead with his lecture, seemingly oblivious that he himself is partly responsible for supposedly playing into Osama’s hands.

This guy must be getting foreign policy advice from Harry Reid.

If he wins the 2012 nomination the US is in deeeeeeper doo doo.

Which is exactly why radical Islam isn’t going to come to power in Europe. Europeans aren’t going to allow martyrdom fetishists anywhere near power. To whatever extent Islamists gain a foothold in Europe, they will have to do so through existing democratic procedures. Any Islamic movement that preaches martyrdom on a national scale will be rebuffed.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM

You’ve made some good points on this thread, but are just plain WRONG here. For starters, there are NO democratic procedures, in any meaningful sense, in place in the EU today.

WE HAD NO BUSINESS GETTING INVOLVED IN WWI. Wilson did his country a grave disservice, and as importantly he did Europe a grave disservice. Had we stayed out of WWI there would have eventually been a more equitable peace agreement obviating the pressures for WWII. Clearly WWI did not make the world save for Democracy.

Now I know Allah has a very difficult thinking out of the progressive neo-Conservative box, but folks, do yourselves a favor and start thinking for yourselves.

Which is exactly why radical Islam isn’t going to come to power in Europe. Europeans aren’t going to allow martyrdom fetishists anywhere near power. To whatever extent Islamists gain a foothold in Europe, they will have to do so through existing democratic procedures. Any Islamic movement that preaches martyrdom on a national scale will be rebuffed.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2009 at 9:29 PM

It looks like we’ve reached an impasse. I’m not going to convince you that Europe will fall, and you’re not going to convince me that it will stand, but time will tell the tell.

BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE, though Paul makes it easy for the intellectually lazy, such as Allah, to dismiss him he does have many fruitful and illuminating insights.

For instance we have no business getting involved in foreign entanglements until and unless an unequivocal national interest is demonstrated and only AFTER a formal declaration of war by the US Congress.

The fed is at the center of what is wrong with the American economy today. Fiat money with its attendant susceptibility to political pressures is part and parcel of this problem.

We’ve invested too much power into the Executive branch in opposition to the intent of the Founders and to our national detriment.

Those who dismiss Paul out of hand are doing themselves a great disservice for his viewpoint is indispensable in the pursuit of economic and political truth.

So, are you just ignorant of this massive foul up, or are you deliberately lying to the members of this board?

Once again, Iraqi WMD’s have become the world’s most famous punchline, whether you like to recognize this reality or not.

No the punchline is your ignorance on pretty much any issue you have brought up.

Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq
The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers say.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2006/06/22/report-hundreds-wmds-iraq/

WASHINGTON–

The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

You will probably contiune to ignore the facts that are right in front of you because they don’t lend well with your
talking points.

I will go slower with you since you seem to possess some type of learning disability.
Biological….weapons….were ….found….in….Iraq….after …..our….invasion.
This….is….WMD.
Saddam still possessed the ability to manufacture and create biological and chemical weapons and would have when the UN backed off.
This was a threat to people in touch with reality that deal in facts and not hyperbole that you deal in.

It’s also hilarious to watch you write about how unreliable
and wrong Bush is and then use Bush to validate your opinion.
Make up your mind,is Bush ignorant or not.

Are you going to sit there and tell me, with a straight face, that the events of 9/11 were a risk of bringing our government down, that the US, as an entity, was at risk because of 9/11?

Plain and simple.
Denying the events of 9/11 as not being a threat to our national security puts you in the same credibility position
as Cindy Sheehan on this subject.
Only an ideological moron could not see that the attacks against America had intensified over the years and with the
trafficking of nuclear/WMD weaponry, a small group could now do incredible harm to any country.

Panel warns biological attack likely by 2013
Report recommends Obama administration prepare for germ warfare
updated 11:00 p.m. ET, Mon., Dec. 1, 2008
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28006645/

WASHINGTON – The United States can expect a terrorist attack using nuclear or more likely biological weapons before 2013, reports a bipartisan commission in a study being briefed Tuesday to Vice President-elect Joe Biden. It suggests the Obama administration bolster efforts to counter and prepare for germ warfare by terrorists.

But this is no big deal to super smart JohnGalt.
Apparently the billions of dollars,and massive amount of man
hours and attention being put forth to preventing a major attack from terrorist is no sign at all that this is a threat to our National Security.

Yea,John,you would make Sheehan proud with this ignorant drivel.

Did Iran have a surrender agreement that it had not adhered to.
NO.
Did Iran have over 15 UN resolutions that it had not adhered to.
NO.
Did Iran start two wars in the hope of ruling a large part of the worlds energy supplies.
NO.

Why the hell should I care about any of that?

Well I would not expect you to care about a country that we defeated in the Gulf War not living up to their surrender agreement,UN Sanctions,and continuing to build up their WMD capabilities.

This would put them as a high priority to the people in touch with reality.
Someone who does not think 9/11 was a threat to our National Security would not be expected to possess the intelligence to see this.
Which pretty much relegates you to the same abyss that Ron Paul is in when it comes to credibility on domestic and foreign affairs.

Sorry, but being a patriot, I don’t measure our success or failures by the yardstick of the rest of the world. Just because they all got it wrong by jumping off a bridge, doesn’t excuse our leadership’s failure by doing the same. I congratulate those who got it right, and excoriate those who got it wrong. Once again, truth hurts, doesn’t it.

Yes,the truth that Iraq is now a success story must hurt
the Sheehan “It’s America’s fault”crowd.
The resolution to go to war that democrats and Republicans voted on was right in the vast majority of its statements.
The world and it’s Intelligence agencies carried a constant message:
SADDAM WAS A THREAT AND HAD TO GO.

He is now gone,Iraq is free and now an ally,and the world is better off for it.
Ideological mental midgets that can’t accept this will be viewed the same way the people who yelled and whined against
WWI and WWII are viewed: IGNORANT.

The facts on the ground that Iraq is a success show your viewpoint to be incompetent and without merit.

But keep telling yourself how smart and insightful you are.
You fit right in with the Rosie O’donell’s,Sean Penn’s,and Cindy Sheehan’s very well.

DFCtomm on February 28, 2009 at 8:55 PM

What was Lebanon like before they decided to take in the Palestinian refugees? It was actually very pleasant from what I hear, but not anymore.

I’ve heard the same thing. But Lebanon ain’t Europe, and it ain’t anywhere close to being the next nuclear power.

I really don’t think M.A.D. works with fanatics, who already use the practice of martyrdom as a weapon.

Which is exactly why radical Islam isn’t going to come to power in Europe. Europeans aren’t going to allow martyrdom fetishists anywhere near power. To whatever extent Islamists gain a foothold in Europe, they will have to do so through existing democratic procedures. Any Islamic movement that preaches martyrdom on a national scale will be rebuffed.

Also, how can a man like Ron Paul be called crazy constantly by a bunch of people who voted for McCain? If you are a modern conservative, McCain was right on only one issue, the war. He was absolutely awful on almost everything else. Ron Paul, on the other hand, was more than stellar on every single issue except the war. How can one be insane and the other be the man whom you voted for president?

I just heard Ann Coulter, an otherwise seemingly mainstream conservative, speak very highly of Ron Paul. She even suggested that he be the GOP candidate in 2012. It seems that she sees something conservative within him, at least.

Once again, why this fear of radical Islam taking over European nations? These people are incapable of providing themselves with flush toilets, and we’re really worried that they’re the next Great Power in Europe?

What was Lebanon like before they decided to take in the Palestinian refugees? It was actually very pleasant from what I hear, but not anymore.

And if they do, then our problems get quite a bit simpler. At that point, any problems they pose fall under National Security, and we counter them with Mutually Assured Destruction. Actually, given our realtive arsenals, the Destruction would be rather one sided.

JohnGalt23 on February 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I really don’t think M.A.D. works with fanatics, who already use the practice of martyrdom as a weapon.