The Obama plan: massive tax hikes
posted at 9:03 am on February 27, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Jake Tapper took a look at the fine print in Deadbeatonomics yesterday, and discovered a lot of tax hikes among the Hope and Change. His plan for revitalizing the economy relies on sucking about a trillion dollars out of it over a ten-year period, starting in 2011:
1) On people making more than $250,000.
- $338 billion – Bush tax cuts expire
- $179 billlion – eliminate itemized deduction
- $118 billion – capital gains tax hike
Total: $636 billion/10 years
2) Businesses:
- $17 billion – Reinstate Superfund taxes
- $24 billion – tax carried-interest as income
- $5 billion – codify “economic substance doctrine”
- $61 billion – repeal LIFO
- $210 billion – international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
- $4 billion – information reporting for rental payments
- $5.3 billion – excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
- $3.4 billion – repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
- $62 million – repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
- $49 million – repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
- $13 billion – repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
- $1 billion – increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
- $882 million – eliminate advanced earned income tax credit
Total: $353 billion/10 years
Most of this is vaporware. This is a triumph of static tax analysis, which assumes that increased taxes have no effect on the amount of money available for taxation. For instance, the hike from 15% to 20% on capital-gains taxes assumes that people will invest and cash out in the same manner they do at 15%. They won’t. The fact of increasing the tax will discourage investors and encourage them to shift money out before the hike. Not only will the extra revenue vanish, but investment levels will drop, leading to job losses and less opportunity for American businesses.
And what “itemized deduction” will get eliminated? All of them? Some of them?
The business tax hikes are even worse. Obama will increase taxes on existing American oil production starting in 2011. Do we have massive amounts of alternative energy capacity ready to replace the energy production and usage that this will discourage? A growing economy has to have a reliable energy supply. Energy producers get hit on several fronts in this plan, and those costs will either result in lower energy production or increased cost to the consumers.
Again, the expected revenues will far exceed the reality, once the depressive economic effects of these taxes kick in. The spending, unfortunately, will be all too real, which will mean huge, ballooning deficits. It’s the inevitable result of Deadbeatonomics.
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LegendHasIt on February 27, 2009 at 7:35 PM
yeah, I get it. I’m a long-time student meself, though probably not to the extreme that you might be, but I believe that this situation, while dire, will not prevail over American ingenuity and freedom.
We were born to overcome things like this.
I am filled with optimism for our great nation, in spite of its detractors and flawed leadership.
We LOVE freedom, and I sleep well at night knowing that freedom will ring out in spite of those who will assault her.
Otis B on February 27, 2009 at 7:42 PM
LegendHasIt on February 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Are you a fellow member of the “Joe the plumber” club? I have been in the industry for the past 38 years; started my apprenticeship in 1971; opened up my shop in 1982.
Keemo on February 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM
The conservatives have always had a great message but have never been able to articulate that or put it across to the voting public. When the voter is promised ‘free’ anything where is the voter going to go? Why did President Bush STOP canvasing for republican candidates? He lost it for the conservatives I believe.
We will once again vote a candidate in the primaries who will not be able to carry the torch for us. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT (I MEAN THAT) CANDIDATE WHO WILL LEAD US IN TO THE LIGHT. WHO IS THAT CANDIDATE?
How do we educate a voting teenager what is good for America? How do we create the conservatives of the future? What do we teach tem so they can stand-up to the liberal professors, teachers, et al?
Why is law disregarded? How are the liberal judges even appointed?
We get the conservatism back we get AMERICA BACK.
OneConservative on February 27, 2009 at 7:45 PM
What is not getting through is that the working people in this country ARE the majority. Why are we acting like it’s all over.
We know the socialist run Washington but there are more of us.
From reading the posts over the last few weeks one would think we are too few and too weak to do anything about what is overtaking us.
The left are louder but smaller in number.
When the majority finally gets in gear, then things will begin to turn. The bigger the wave the longer it takes to get to shore. The bigger the wave, the more damage it does.
The wave it rolling.
It may very well take a few million people to make it to Washington and shut down the city but something is going to crack!
katy on February 27, 2009 at 7:46 PM
And one more thing…. the republicans and independents that voted for Obama, not knowing what the hell they were doing except voting for “anything but BOOOSH” are beginning to realize they made a huge mistake.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Nope. Just a cheapskate do-it-myselfer.
Back when I actually worked for a living I was a business consultant. And the founding partner of a small mining company; in between consulting contracts I went out and got dirty making holes in the ground … Or vice-versa.
Pretty much just a bum for the last 20 years.
LegendHasIt on February 27, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I kinda miss ol’ W.
jimmy2shoes on February 27, 2009 at 7:56 PM
The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 937.93 points, or 11.72% on the month — the worst percentage drop since 1933, when it fell 15.62%
Good job Obama! And it was only your first full month in the White House!
KentAllard on February 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM
katy on February 27, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Freedom reigns in this country – within the military, as an officer, I can affirm to you the freedom I am given to exercise initiative and act upon it to further the cause of freedom for all is encouraged.
Our Constitution will prevail in spite of any assaults upon it – the foundation of our government is sound in its principals of the security of individual liberties.
The next few years may test these liberties, but we will maintain that which we ascribe to – those things the extreme left ascribe play into the very hands of the right, a thing which affirms to me the strength of our Constitutional system.
Ever anon I am impressed with what those men wrought.
Otis B on February 27, 2009 at 7:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajkAP_M4ZAM
RealDemocrat on February 27, 2009 at 8:02 PM
One thing we should never never forget… our founding fathers KNEW… this day would come.
They knew we would one day need every tool they put in our Constitution.
Today is the day they knew would come.
We ARE the generation that they were thinking of when they so brilliantly put it all together.
Freedom is on our genes. I do believe there are more of us then there are of them and it may get bloody but that is what they expected!
katy on February 27, 2009 at 8:06 PM
katy on February 27, 2009 at 8:06 PM
You are absolutely right, katy, and we have to start in each of our states. This link is my son’s site. We’ve decided to stop talking and act. We encourage everyone in every state to act similarly. We may be LONGSHOTS but we will have a debate!
http://nhlongshot.blogspot.com/
Moses99 on February 27, 2009 at 8:16 PM
First they came after the people who made over $250,000 but I did not make $250,000 and so I did nothing. And then they came after the people who drive a lot, but I did not drive a lot and so I did nothing…and then they came after me..and my kids, and my grandkids…
Terrye on February 27, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Are we going to allow the left to convince us we are less than what we are?
We are the majority!
katy on February 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM
That is AWESOME moses! This is how it starts! I havn’t read the whole site yet but I will.
Getting his message out to as many people as possible. Yah, it’s along shot but what great venture wasn’t! Love it.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 8:32 PM
a long shot
katy on February 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM
The Green-Jobs Engine That Can’t:
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama promised to transform America’s energy economy by creating millions of “green jobs.” Accepting his party’s nomination at the Democratic convention in Denver, Obama proclaimed: “I’ll invest $150 billion over the next decade in affordable, renewable sources of energy—wind power and solar power and the next generation of biofuels; an investment that will lead to new industries and 5 million new jobs that pay well and can’t ever be outsourced.” This new energy economy, Obama explained weeks later at the second presidential debate in Nashville, would be an “engine of economic growth” to rival the computer and one, moreover, that we could build “easily.” Though he would have quibbled with Obama over details, Republican candidate John McCain similarly praised the virtues of creating millions of these environmentally friendly jobs, both as an answer to the nation’s economic woes and as a way to reduce carbon emissions.
The green subsidies are considerable. The U.S. Energy Information Administration reported in early 2008 that the government subsidizes solar energy at $24.34 per megawatt-hour (MWh) and wind power at $23.37. Yet even with decades of these massive handouts, as well as numerous state-level mandates for utilities to use green power, wind and solar energy contribute less than one-half of 1 percent of our nation’s electricity. Compare the green energy subsidies to the energy sources reviled by environmentalists, such as natural gas (25 cents per MWh in subsidies), coal (44 cents), hydroelectricity (67 cents), and nuclear power ($1.59). With relatively little government largesse, these sources (along with oil, which undergirds transportation) do the heavy lifting in our energy economy.
The alternative technologies at the heart of Obama’s plan, relying on more such government handouts and mandates, will inevitably raise energy prices—and high power prices are job killers. Industries that make physical products, whether cars or chemicals or paper cups, are energy-intensive and will gravitate to low-energy-cost locales—which is why California and New York, with some of the highest electricity prices in the country, have lost manufacturing jobs in droves. But it’s not just manufacturers that need cheap electricity: Google, the poster child of California’s information-technology economy, houses its massive server farms not in the Golden State but in places with lower electricity costs, like North Carolina and Oregon. Policies that drive up energy costs across the nation, as Obama intends, will drive many of these jobs not elsewhere in the country but overseas.
- Max Schulz
MB4 on February 27, 2009 at 8:36 PM
But I don’t want my massive taxed.
- The Cat
MirCat on February 27, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Hopefully these tough times sparks a scientist brain to have a breakthrough with fusion energy some time soon. Hopefully in time for Saracuda to clean up Washington for good. Its become clear with this Administration, and Congress that Change has come in the form of Totalitarianism. Go back and analyze all his speeches; he recites these intentions throughout.
hiphopconservative on February 27, 2009 at 8:52 PM
May they suffer the ruinous hell the next 4-8 years bring. They will have to pay more than the moochers on the left.
Entelechy on February 27, 2009 at 9:09 PM
First they came after the people who made over $250,000 but I did not make $250,000 and so I did nothing. And then they came after the people who drive a lot, but I did not drive a lot and so I did nothing…and then they came after me so I shot a bunch of them and then they stopping coming.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM
One cannot but conclude that the left are either desirous or a deeper recession or so stupid as to require institutionalization.
How else do you explain raising capital gains taxes during an investment crisis?
What is the defect in the mind of the left that refuses to see that business taxes are paid by the consumer? I’ve actually had that argument with leftists, and it’s as if they have some sort of narrowly focused mental retardation that prevents them from understanding the process.
Merovign on February 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM
On their basis of being able to find other work and how they fit in the team.
I am only trying to explain why business is getting bludgeoned. Quit giving them reasons to do so and start giving them reasons to work with business.
As I’ve said before, dust off a sociology book. It might help you understand why and stop what is happening. Or you could bang your head against the wall and wonder why it hurts so badly.
For offshoring of jobs, we definitely need to bring some of that back. Cancel the H1/L1 programs until we see at least a year of solid growth, returning as highly reformed and pro-citizen programs.
Where I get the idea of some of them having a god complex is that they are elevated far above those who only wish to seek work. They think they’re beyond criticism just for being on the more advantageous side of the table as a business owner.
sethstorm on February 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Reaganomics is dead.
Obamanomics has begun.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Only can agree with you on the environmentalist parts of the left wing.
sethstorm on February 27, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Nope.
People didn’t take to the streets in protest or rant on tv at the stock exchange or threaten massive tea parties across the country when Reagan declared tax breaks.
This is not going well for Obama and it’s only been 5 weeks in.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 9:34 PM
katy on February 27, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Those tea parties are a joke.
Few people bothered to show up.
Not too many fans of Wall Street these days.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 9:38 PM
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Eh, these things can start small and work their way up. Not saying they will, but if a million people showed up you would claim it’s a failure because they didn’t attract two million.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 9:40 PM
A million Wall Street supporters?
You might get a million against Wall Street greed but you chose the wrong side.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Yah sure life, 600 show up with 48 hours notice from twitter and facebook info. 300 here, 400 there. A dozen cities in just one week of interent buzz.
It’s only beginning. I guarantee this is going to get much bigger.
Obama and the dems are cutting their own throats. DOOMED! This is not going well for them!! or you.
Not well at all.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 9:45 PM
I’ve actually had that argument with leftists, and it’s as if they have some sort of narrowly focused mental retardation that prevents them from understanding the process.
Merovign on February 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM
More like large-scale episodes of focused retardation on every issue.
You will have just as much luck trying to explain where government money originates as you will in explaining how the military is a necessity.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM
A million Wall Street supporters?
You might get a million against Wall Street greed but you chose the wrong side.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Yep, all wall street supporters, not a one who is against higher taxes or bailing out the slugs who got themselves in trouble through their own faults. Not a single one.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Obamanomics is just FDR, Carter and the Clinton of ‘93-’94 on steroids. It will die, too.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 9:59 PM
See, that’s the lefty delusion. By being owners of businesses, they are by definition on the more advantageous side of the table.
Now, explain to me the god complex that big-government types like you have.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:02 PM
funny how this blog conveniently forgets how the tea parties fizzled out today. pssst, maybe if we don’t tell our readers what a disaster they were, no one will know.50 too 100 people turned out on average. I guess the conservative “rage” was all hype. The outrage was hyped, chests were pounded, but when push came to shove most conservatives stayed home. All talk, no action, like beaten dogs. Just lick your wounds and crawl home on your bellies. Obama is just smarter than you people, eventually you won’t fight it anymore. Your side has no one to rally the troops. Rush tries but we all know he does nothing but sit on his fat behind and collect his millions. Theres “one of the people” for you. But keep telling each other how much smarter you are than those liberals, and get ready for another whipping in 2010.
athensboy on February 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM
They’ll get bigger, once people realize that the phony “tax cut” of today is the taxable income subject to Obama’s higher rates next time around.
It’s a losing proposition.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:06 PM
athensboy on February 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Oh look, the library is open late tonight.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Go screw yourself, brownshirt.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:09 PM
The outrage was hyped, chests were pounded, but when push came to shove
most conservatives stayed home.were hard at work paying for the leftists bleeding heartless slug leaches that milk the system and suck the life blood out of the American tax payer.There fixed it for ya!
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:11 PM
And Wall Street crashes and burns. Congratulations.
jimmy2shoes on February 27, 2009 at 10:12 PM
So is Joe Biden. Awesome brain power there. (Assuming you know who Joe Biden is. Can’t tell about O-bots.)
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Sure you can ignore all the greedy Wall Street outrages. w started socialism for them. The Madoff and Stanford scams. The destruction they caused in the world economies.
Ignoring realities does not make you smarter than the majority that does not.
It makes you look like tools.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Oh yeah? Give us some specifics. Tell us succinctly how Wall Street greed in itself brought us to this pass. Or is this just you regurgitating another lib talking point?
Show us how unfoolish you are. Prove it.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:26 PM
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Just read Drudge.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:27 PM
By the way, do you realize how much both of those gave to the Democrats? And hell, Madoff is no more unethical than the Social Security Administration.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Nah, give it to us in your own words. Or are you incapable of a thought that goes beyond a 7-word talking point?
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:29 PM
Who is ignoring them? Even if the current problems were purely the fault of “Wall Street”, which they aren’t, the solution isn’t trillion dollar spending sprees on such targeted items as STD prevention, swamp mice and digital transfer coupons.
Ignoring the reality of massive spending supported by massive taxes to support liberal wish-lists makes you look not like a tool but the entire inventory of the Snap-On warehouse.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM
HAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
HA!HA! oh my God! …choking from LOL..
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM
You should call it the tool parties.
There is your seven.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Thought so.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:32 PM
“They’re Wall Street. They have more money than I do. They are evil. Obama loves me. Obama will take care of me. Bad, bad Republicans love Wall Street, they want to hurt Obama. I HATE the Republicans. Bad, bad, bad!”
There, I expanded it a bit for you.
ddrintn on February 27, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Drudge has all sorts of fun info:
Raising the marginal tax rate on successful earners, capital, dividends, and all the private funds is a function of Obama’s left-wing social vision, and a repudiation of his economic-recovery statements. Ditto for his sweeping government-planning-and-spending program, which will wind up raising federal outlays as a share of GDP to at least 30 percent, if not more, over the next 10 years.
This is nearly double the government-spending low-point reached during the late 1990s by the Gingrich Congress and the Clinton administration.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Both were criminal acts, based on greed…the greed of Madoff and Stanford, and the greed of those who bought into them. But “destruction of world economies?”
You’ve got to be kidding.
Both Madoff and Stanford are a mere drop in the bucket compared to Obama economics, which is indeed beginning to be felt across the globe. At some point probably sooner rather than later, the dollar as a major medium of exchange will be replaced by something else, and we will become just another minor player on the global market.
A 17% drop in the market, since Obama became President….he can’t blame that on Bush. The Dow at or below 6000 within the next week or so…then the real fun begins, as lenders will not lend, since the Administration has already declared the government has an obligation to renegotiate loans to make them more favorable, after the fact, to the borrower. Manufacturers looking to downsize even more in order to maintain enough capital to meet tax obligations, since they cannot recover such from the market place since people are no longer buying with confidence. Increasing state taxes by fiat…a clear Constitutional violation…by demands that states increase “revenues”…that’s going to build confidence in the financial sectors.
The Obama Administration’s high-handed notion that 8% of mortgage holders or those about to lose their mortgages are far far more important than the 92% of mortgage holders who have been faithfully paying their debt and following the rules which were provided them in print at the time they took out their loans. And the pork…the vast majority of the stimulus is nothing but pork, all of it well out of the perview of the federal government, but forced down our throats anyway.
This is what is going to cause the destruction of the world economies, not Madoff nor Stanford.
If they can arrest and indict Madoff and Stanford for Ponzi schemes…wonder if the citizens of this Nation can arrest and indict the Obama Administration and certain key members of Congress for their Ponzi scheme?
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM
getalife, you have no answers, no solutions, no ideas, no curiosity.
Who is the tool?
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:36 PM
You should call it the tool parties.
There is your seven.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Already claimed by the Ogabe “Support the Stimulus” house party fiasco.
Think of another.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM
Silly Liberal, don’t you know that Wall Street is for Obama?
Industries that are failing and want to choke out competition from smaller hungry companies invariably cry out to the government for more “regulation and oversite”. Democrats are the ones who promote big business, with their policies and regulations.
catlady on February 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Seriously, why are the millions in the world protesting?
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Maybe the Tea Party movement would gain more traction if they stole an idea from the Ogabe administration:
Form breakout groups, brainstorm for three hours and then present the ideas to a leader.
Or I suppose we could all just sit at mini-tables and fingerpaint, it would have the same effect as Ogabe’s laughable circle jerk sessions.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:43 PM
You should see the bumper stickers I have on the back window of my car, both supplied by my neighbor. One says “Palin McCain” and has her photo on the left, his on the right. He bought that one on the internet. Then he had some made that say “I reserve the right to say I told you so”. I placed it at an angle so it covers up McCain’s picture.
darwin-t on February 27, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Because of governements like the one Obama is forming, that confiscate the people’s hard earned money to give away to others who don’t work of for it.
Europe is having nightly protests against their governments and that is exactly where your Obama wants to take us.
You can’t really be that shtooopid can you?
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Umm, that’s a rhetorical question, no? :-)
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Seriously, why are the millions in the world protesting?
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:41 PM
You mean the Europeans, the barely working, overtaxed stiffs who believed that everything really was free? Those millions who invested in the socialist idea that if the government was just given control of everything, all needs would be met? Those millions?
Comedy gold, silver, copper and platinum.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:47 PM
I didn’t want to make it too hard for him… ;)
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:49 PM
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Yes, he can. :)
catlady on February 27, 2009 at 10:49 PM
According to the company software Mr. Geithner could not understand, Turbo Tax at http://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/tax-tips/irs-tax-return/5519.html states that the income tax rates will reset to the 2001 rates; 15%, 27.5%, 30.5%, 35.5% and 39.5%. President Obama said he will allow them to reset. Presently they are 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33% and 35%. Higher Tax Rates—Beginning in 2011, tax rates in effect prior to 2001 spring back into effect. The top income tax rate returns to 39.6 percent, and the special low 10 percent bracket is eliminated. President Bush, in his 2008 budget, proposed the present tax rates become permanent. The Democratic congress ignored this request.
So not just those over $250,000 will pay more. Why aren’t we hearing about this!
amr on February 27, 2009 at 10:50 PM
No sillies.
They are protesting the banks greed that caused this crises.
Keep ignoring it and have your little tool parties.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:52 PM
So not just those over $250,000 will pay more. Why aren’t we hearing about this!
amr on February 27, 2009 at 10:50 PM
You know the answer.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:52 PM
Are you for real??
katy on February 27, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Indeed.
For every percentage point in more taxes levied there is a marked increase in the cost of goods, the cost of labor, the cost of capital, and a shrinking pot of money to compete against, resulting in an increase in interest rates…unless artificially kept low, which causes a drop in the value of the dollar for those who need it the most.
Obama and his policies will actually hit hardest those who Obama claims he wishes to help. Instead, he is making more Americans permanent wards of the state…totally beholden to the state for all their needs. And Obama’s solution? raise taxes again, and it will not be just for those earning $250k or more…it will hit all income earners. Wonder if people realize that extra $13 a week or so they are going to see in their paychecks after 1 April will be taxed at a higher rate next year?
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 10:56 PM
No katy.
I am a figment of your imagination.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Can’t say we didn’t try to get through; sometimes a tool, no matter how well oiled, will always have rust.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM
Ever hold a real job? Ever have to make payroll for other people?
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM
Yes, I retired in the Clinton economy.
The good ole days.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Sure ya did.
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 11:01 PM
you’re a child…
where are your answers to your complaints. I asked you for solutions. Ideas. You have nothing.
Nothing but angst. Give us a good economic solution. Any idea you have.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Speaking of tools, does ANYONE in the Ogabe administration pay their taxes:
–White House general counsel Gregory Craig has seized control of Obama’s vetting process after a series of nominees with unpaid taxes. But his wife’s business may also have avoided taxes. Who vets the vetter?
Derry Noyes, Craig’s wife, runs Noyes Graphics, a design business, out of the couple’s home in northwest Washington. Between Craig’s work and hers, they’ve been on Washington’s A-list for a decade.
A spokesman at the Washington D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs told Gawker that no one has ever sought any kind of permit or registration for a business under the name of Noyes Graphics or at the Craigs’ home address. By not registering Craig may have avoided local business taxes.–
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Most business owners are on the “more advantageous side”, because of sacrifice, long hours of hard work and risking every cent that they have got. I have had a two vacations in twenty five years. Of coourse, all of my employees get their yearly four to six weeks vacation. I get one day off a week and on that day I am at usually mending fences and worming cattle, but my employees get two days off and only work eight hours a day, to my twelve hour days. I am not complaing about my situation, because that is what I choose to do, but it burns me to listen to people who run down business owners, when they have no clue as to what it takes to run a successful business.
Johan Klaus on February 27, 2009 at 11:03 PM
Taxes for thee, but none for me.
Seems to be a common Left belief.
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Yes, I retired in the Clinton economy.
The good ole days.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:00 PM
Yah, the good ol’ days when shares of DogFood.com and K-Tel were worth $400 per share.
I mean come on, who didn’t realize that a mail order record company could be worth as much as Boeing, Microsoft and Exxon combined?
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Kulak!! /s
[You should wear your "enemy of the state" badge with honor.]
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Noitce how getalife always disappears when challenged in any way?
Come on G.A.L… show us your stuff. What did ya retire from? How much is your retirement worth now? Did you have to move back in with mom?
Come on.. give it up..
katy on February 27, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Getalife is a joke
Jamson64 on February 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:07 PM
It was a hell of a bubble. Then they took those profits and invested in mortgages. Pop goes the bubble and the money is lost.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Where are the trolls who used to remind usL
Jamson64 on February 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Get a Life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Can you answer some of the questions that were asked? I have one for you, How come you think BO can create a socialist paradise when Brezhnev, Castro, Kim, and the rest of them can’t? Why is that you never hear of immigrants storming into these nations? When you kill the golden goose, what are you going to do then? Demos never answer hard questions and the media never asks them either do they? Can you imagine if the media was not in their camp? I will be leaving in about half hour so please answer.
garydt on February 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM
You know, I always like to say that when the other guy wins the election, the results are usually not as good as you hoped, but not as bad as you fear.
With Nobama, it looks like it will be every bit as bad as we feared. The only hope we have is for him to become politically unpopular, because he’s enough of a politician to cave on every bit of his agenda if the political price is high enough.
Unfortunately, the Democratic Congress is going to be even worse. Our only hope there is that they will overreach soon enough that the public will vote the bums out.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on February 27, 2009 at 11:20 PM
GAL….where are your ideas? why are you ignoring such a great opportunity to show everyone what you know. I mean after all, you retired under the Clinton admin. You’ve been around long enough to have economic ideas and solutions to the CRISIS huh.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 11:22 PM
It was a hell of a bubble. Then they took those profits and invested in mortgages. Pop goes the bubble and the money is lost.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Which explains how so many people became millionaires one day and paupers the next; an economy built on nothing.
Or did you believe that an economy which accepted sky-high stock prices for companies who sold bottled water online was normal?
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Katy
too funny
Jamson64 on February 27, 2009 at 11:24 PM
This explains the falsehood of the good ole days of CLINTON. Almost everything including stocks and houses were overvalued.
So much for Bubbas greatness.
Jamson64 on February 27, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Johan Klaus on February 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM
GAL,,, is retired? I was wondering if he was twelve years old, by his answers. He like Kerry offered no alternatives and this is why Kerry lost in 04. BO the communist that he is was not afraid to tell us what he really is and what he wants to do unlike the Kerry four years earlier.
garydt on February 27, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Obviously Our Dear Leader thinks they have better songbun.
In the aftermath of the Korean War, North Korea imposed the notion of “songbun” on its citizenry. The poor and shiftless for being poor and shiftless had “good” songbun, and today they are the privileged class for having failed most impressively. The successful in North Korea were demonized for being that way, and today they are the bottom caste in a society that has committed economic suicide right before our eyes.
So while it’s surely a reach to suggest the U.S. is going the way of North Korea, it’s also true that bad policy has a way of slowly wrecking societies over time. At present, with the federal government creating incentives whereby companies will be rewarded by the tax code for not laying off unproductive employees, and just the same where irresponsible home buyers are being sanctified for being irresponsible, the U.S. political class is imposing its own, minor form of songbun; these actions signaling our nation’s long-term economic decline.
- John Tamny
MB4 on February 27, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I thought it was a huge opportunity and it was.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM
I am not so sure. Once a communist……..
Johan Klaus on February 27, 2009 at 11:31 PM
GAL…. what weazel. Poseur. Fraud…. ooooh, but his comment on pop goes the bubble… that stunned me. Now that was an intellectual bright spot in an other wise dull evening.
katy on February 27, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Still waiting for the huge opportunity for you to answer Get a Life.
garydt on February 27, 2009 at 11:31 PM
I thought it was a huge opportunity and it was.
getalife on February 27, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Absolutely, if you were on the right side of the bubble and saw it coming, you probably made out well.
Doesn’t change the fact that the “good ol’ days” of the Clinton economy were only good if you recognized and reacted to the dangerous nature of the system. There are plenty of people who are still paying the price of indulging themselves during those good ol’ days.
Bishop on February 27, 2009 at 11:35 PM
A boy can’t do… what a boy can’t do…
katy on February 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Just as every other tinpot dictator over history, to include Kim Il-sung and “songbun,” establishing the primacy of your chosen constituency, and offering ample rewards for loyalty (Kim’s “loyalty payments” being returned by Kim to his people with “gifts” of food, position, access to goods denied other members of the society and so forth) Obama is indeed creating the same sort of loyal base, and intends to grow it by making more and more citizens totally beholden to the state for all their needs.
Wrecking the foundations of the previous society…making societal norms obsolete, demonizing everything that marked the previous society along the way…it is being played out in front of all of us.
Those who stand to lose the most are either numb, startled like a deer in the headlights by it all, or are trying to save what they have, or even organizing nascent protests…but too many, too many, are more than willing to go along, to get what they can, and in return they become a loyal constituency, the “New Class” Djilas wrote about so long ago…
coldwarrior on February 27, 2009 at 11:36 PM
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