In science, we [are supposed to] have have peer review.

FIFY

As opposed to the playstation science being conducted by those who think the models actually work.

Gotta send this link to a Korean professor who just came back from Antarctica where he studied Southern Ocean. He claims global warming is visible.

Too bad, he doesn’t know he was disproven on the internets.

radiofreevillage on February 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Your friend saw one tiny part of Antarctica, and declared that he knew what was going on in the entire continent?

That’s like me judging the climate of the US, after a visit to Miami.

1) The Antarctic pennisula (where your friend probably was) has warmed a tiny bit, because the ocean currents in that region have warmed. (Due to regular, cyclic, oscillations)
2) The Antarctic as a whole has gotten colder over the last few decades.
3) Sea ice around Antarctica has grown so much, that it has been setting records in recent years.

As a Brit myself, I found that a little insulting. presumably this guy is an IRA supporter. I can only assume that is what his comment meant, as law abiding citizens of Ireland as a rule do not come into contact with the British legal system. If they break the law they are treated the same as anyone else, unless they are terrorists (and that includes pro-British as well as anti-British terrorists.)

In other words, it would appear this guy feels aggrieved at the treatment of Irish terrorists. And your interviewer, by laughing along with him, added a tacit approval to the statement.

Perhaps you might ask this guy to come back on and explain his comment about the British justice system. Is he a terrorist supporter? Has he ever been arrested himself, and thus have first-hand experience of the British legal system? If he feels that terrorists are unfairly treated in Britain, what are his thoughts on the captives in Gitmo? Does he feel that is fair, because it is far harsher treatment than any Irish terrorist received. And how about Israel? Does he support the way the Israelis assassination program of terrorist leaders? We never did that. It was against the law – the law that he criticises.

What exactly is his problem?

I’m not saying us Brits were perfect. We weren’t. But then we were being targeted by an organisation that was a political minority, and yet felt it should kill and maim people to get its way. It’s always going to be difficult dealing with people like that. Just look at modern day Islamic extremists – its a tough call to know how to treat civilian killers.

Also, he riles against the liberals for telling us how to behave – but at least they weren’t doing it at gunpoint behind a ski mask.

As far as his argument on environmental matters is concerned, he may have a point. But here is where I differ: I don’t feel that liberals wearing jumpers and beards are ‘imperialists,’ but rather participating in the exchange of ideas. The problem is, they seem to be winning the argument up until know, and that is why their ideas are being adopted. If he disagrees with them, then I suggest he gets involved and starts arguing against them in the court of public opinion. Don’t call them imperialists for making a case he doesn’t agree with.

Then again, I suspect McAleery is the kind of guy more comfortable with making his point felt behind a ski mask and and Armalite.

Gotta send this link to a Korean professor who just came back from Antarctica where he studied Southern Ocean. He claims global warming is visible.

How exactly do you jump from that claim that “global warming is visible” to the idea that this proves the validity of the Theory of Anthropogenic Global Warming? Your comment is insufficient for anyone – here or anywhere – to take you seriously.

Too bad, he doesn’t know he was disproven on the internets.

radiofreevillage on February 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Are you implying that AGW now has to be disproven? In science, “we” don’t accept a hypothesis (let alone an entire theory) as a given and then demand that everyone else disprove it. In science, “we” insist the burden of proof remain on those advancing the hypothesis, no?

Peer review: You’re doing it wrong.

Scientists are human beings, subject to all the foibles of human beings, such as corruption and laziness and self-sanctimony.

Pretending that it somehow magically not so because you wrote down that it wasn’t so at some point is like claiming that no Christians have ever dishonored their parents or committed adultery because of the ten commandments.

AGW (as commonly accepted) has ALREADY failed the standard tests that any hypothesis must face, but too many people are invested in it to let it go.

Though much smaller, the Hollow Earth Society still meets.

You’re too shallow to understand all these arguments can be fired back at you. In science, we have peer review.

radiofreevillage on February 27, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Care to explain who “we” is? Or am I just supposed to guess?

Because all the experts on this issue agree, right? It’s not as if there’s a culture hellbent on silencing dissent and denying grant money to dissenters?! RIGHT? It’s not as if this hasn’t happened in science before, RIGHT? I mean, scientists aren’t at all personally invested in their theory and receive the nullification of a theory they’ve built their entire political philosophy on with calm approval, RIGHT?

You’re too shallow to understand all these arguments can be fired back at you. In science, we have peer review.

This isn’t science, it’s statism.

Gotta send this link to a Korean professor who just came back from Antarctica where he studied Southern Ocean. He claims global warming is visible.

Too bad, he doesn’t know he was disproven on the internets.

radiofreevillage on February 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Well, he saw some ice melt so naturally that must mean that anthropogenic global warming is the greatest peril mankind faces!

Because all the experts on this issue agree, right? It’s not as if there’s a culture hellbent on silencing dissent and denying grant money to dissenters?! RIGHT? It’s not as if this hasn’t happened in science before, RIGHT? I mean, scientists aren’t at all personally invested in their theory and receive the nullification of a theory they’ve built their entire political philosophy on with calm approval, RIGHT?

Uh huh. Right.

Too bad, he doesn’t know he was disproven on the internets.

Al Gore isn’t evil, just stupid.

Phelim also has fun with me

eeewwww.