Rush: If you think Jindal reeked last night, I don’t want to hear from you again
posted at 6:10 pm on February 25, 2009 by Allahpundit
Sounds like Ace and I are now Republican personas non grata. As are an awful lot of commenters in last night’s megathread, I might add.
That’s okay. One of these days Andy Levy and I are going to start a secular, hawkish, (mostly) libertarian third party. You’re all welcome to join.
So, where are we? We as conservatives are in the wilderness, and many of you are hopeless. So we have a guy, Bobby Jindal, 37 years old, first time on the national stage, shows up last night to make a response to The Messiah. All he did was articulate what we believe. All he did was articulate opposition to what Obama is doing, with the obligatory when he’s right, we’ll work with him, just like we worked with Clinton on NAFTA, just like we worked with Clinton on welfare reform after we brought him in. These things happen. It doesn’t mean that we lose our distrust. All Bobby Jindal did was tell us what conservatism is; he used his own life story to do it; he talked about the American people making the country work. He had it all. Now, he may not have done it in the same stylistic way as Obama. I can understand the Democrats trashing the man, just as they trashed Sarah Palin. They are mean-spirited, heartless, horrible winners. But the people on our side are really making a mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal on the basis of style.
Because if you think people on our side, I’m talking to you, those of you who think Jindal was horrible, in fact, I don’t want to hear from you ever again if you think that what Bobby Jindal said was bad or what he said was wrong or not said well, because, folks, style is not going to take our country back. Solid conservatism articulated in a way that’s inspiring and understanding is what’s going to take the country back. Bobby Jindal’s 37 years old. I’ve spoken to him numerous times. He’s brilliant. He’s the real deal. I’m not coming here to defend him, he doesn’t need that. We’re going to have to figure out what we want. Do we want to have somebody in our party who can sound as smart as Obama regardless what he says and convince people to vote for us, or do we believe in a set of principles that defined this country’s founding and will return it to greatness again?
Answer: Both, and it’s amazing that a guy who worships the Great Communicator and whose own net worth has reached nine digits on the strength of his communication skills would pose that as an either/or. Jindal will shake this off but the fact remains that he blew an opportunity to turn himself into a breakout star a la Obama at the 2004 convention. He’s touted as a sort of boy genius, but a boy genius should have been able to figure out a way not to be actively bad, even if it meant being merely boring. He couldn’t, so his image took a hit. What’s the problem with admitting that? If he was doomed to fail because of the setting — and he surely wasn’t doomed to fail as badly as he did — he should have adapted by changing it and doing the speech in front of a small audience (or a big one). He’s supposed to be the solutions guy, right?
Not a big deal either way, but I’m not sure why it’s heresy to take a dim view of this. Special exit quotation for all the Dittoheads: “People who don’t believe in God believe in Obama. Agnostics, atheists, because believe me, a planeload of atheists on a jet on the way to Hawaii and three of the four engines go out, the atheists start praying to who? God. Not the ocean, to save ‘em. Everybody believes in God at some point, but not until they face their mortality. Everybody does. They have some God. Very few people think they’re it. Obama is one. I think when Obama prays, it’s to himself.”










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They always have done just that. Pay attention. Geez.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM
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roopster217 on February 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM
You won’t be surprised if we don’t look to you for advice will you?
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I think given the circumstances, Jindal did about as well as he could. We are seeing the first sputters of the coming conflagration, but now is not the time to rally. Now is not the time for a barnburner of a speech that will completely pwn Teleprompter Man. Now is the time to quietly speak the truth, and let the chips fall as they may.
That barnburner you were expecting from Jindal? Nobody’s ready to listen yet. But give it time
Sekhmet on February 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM
No. Who told you that? Barney Fwank?
Why? He’s great. You’re not making any sense.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I agree with everything you said in your last post. What I have trouble with is the existence of a large group of well informed “moderates” who share the conservative principles that you describe and nevertheless vote for an ultra-liberal like Obama and who we have to somehow “attract” to the party.
I have to admit that I am a bit pre-disposed to be suspicious of calls to be more attractive the independents and moderates because, in the eyes of many proponents, it often means compromising conservative values.
neuquenguy on February 25, 2009 at 8:57 PM
If Rush was so worried about conservatism he wouldn’t have lied through his teeth in this hit-piece on Mike Huckabee. I used to support Rush, but not after that harmful and untrue attempt to discredit and malign an innocent man. Limbo is a paper tiger. He’s got tens of millions of listeners but never made anything of it. Never made a mass movement. All he’s done with all the money and all the support and all the huge following that he’s got is enrich himself. I’ve got nothing against making coin, but this guys motivation is getting YOU to send him more gelt! Conservative talk show hosts like him are frauds that cannot be trusted.
To say “There is no God,” is to make an absolute statement. And to make a statement like that you must know everything about the universe, and none of us can make that assertion. You don’t even posess 1% of all the knowledge in the universe. There are no atheists. At best they are agnostic (meaning, I don’t know) and the Bible tells us that this ignorance is “willful” (Psalm 10:4). Thank you.
apacalyps on February 25, 2009 at 8:58 PM
I said it once on another thread and Ill say it again-Obama was once just like Jindal. It took time and many many public engagements to make him the teleprompt maven that he has become. Jindal will get there too he has plenty of time. The difference is Jindal walks the walk and talks the talk-Obama is just blowin smoke…
canditaylor68 on February 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/speaker.htm
You’re conflating “sound of voice” with “whether or not people liked his speeches.” People don’t like Obama’s speeches because he sounds like a DJ or something, they like what he says.
A dog could have barked the Gettysburg Address and people would appreciate the power of its words. Some people didn’t like it, of course, but then again we were fighting a Civil War, so that kind of makes sense.
Proud Rino on February 25, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Unity’s pretty hard to come by when you still have pissy, embittered Romney supporters, or Huckabee supporters, or Thompson supporters, or Paul supporters. I’ve had about enough of that particular vibe.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Both your opinions and your “facts” are wrong.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Sure they do, which is probably why you’d have a hard time finding a single O-bot who could tell you much about his DNC acceptance speech, or his Inauguration speech. Obama does nothing more than spew out what he thinks people want to hear, in this faux black-preacher cadence.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:02 PM
For the record: I do not believe in God. And I do not believe in Obama. Also, plenty of people who do believe in God also do believe in Obama–just look at Rev. Al Sharpton.
hicsuget on February 25, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Doubt it.
Christ now you are using his exact colloquialisms now. Next you will be calling me a seminar caller. I have not read one other conservative or liberal who shares the same gripe with El Rushbo.
Seriously? You actually thought that was clever enough to put into type? Does Golden Girls make you belly laugh? Christ no wonder Conservatives are seen as having such lame personalities. Which brings us back around full circle to the Jindal perception problem.
ClassicCon on February 25, 2009 at 9:03 PM
I think trolls are surprised every time the sun rises and sets.
Remember the definition of insanity…
logis on February 25, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Really anyone on earth, except Rush, would have been exactly what Jindal was last night…..a sacraficial lamb.
jrab01 on February 25, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Obama delivered an eloquent artifice consisting of flattery, lies, contradictions, and political appeasement, and he is lauded for his style, not for substance. Jindal delivers a principled, true blue conservative response to the Messiah’s glib nonsense and he gets ridiculed.
Rush’s message to conservatives is simple: Grow up or get out.
We expect frivolous analysis from the Dems. Anyone who styles himself a conservative but chooses to live in the shallows shouldn’t even bother.
EMD on February 25, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Don’t forget. Clinton was the Keynote in 88 Democrat Convention….was long winded, and booed off the Stage.
4 Years later, he is the nominee, and Great Communicator II.
Bobby G was fine.
Dpet on February 25, 2009 at 9:06 PM
excellent point. Timing is everything…best served cold…yada yada yada….they are taking plenty of rope for the noose right now and we need to strike when the 2010 iron is a little more hot IMHO
shortdawgdc on February 25, 2009 at 9:06 PM
+1
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:07 PM
funky chicken — you’re attributing sincerity to McCain’s speeches. While, on a lot of points, I think he was sincere, on at least half he wasn’t otherwise he wouldn’t have voted for the first stimulus package.
haikusrock on February 25, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Yeah you know how people love hearing about how “our day of reckoning has come” and stuff. He’s just telling people what they love hearing about how terrible the economy is!
Of course, McCain says, “The fundamentals of the economy are strong.” That’s straight talk. That’s not telling people what they want to hear.
Got it. Tell me, does hot snow fall up in backwards-land?
Proud Rino on February 25, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Incorrect. He doesn’t believe in God.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Your people do. They want radical restructuring of our economy and political system. For the few that listen to his words, they’re exactly what they want to hear.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:10 PM
D-I-V-O-R-C-E. And I want the house.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:11 PM
He’s a paper tiger, but yet destroyed your boy’s candidacy. Get over it already.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Allah in the wilderness. Ace too.
I did not catch the speech, but what clips I have seen support Allah and Ace are right and Rush is wrong. I like Jindal. I like Palin. Listen, no biggie, Jindal can bounce back from this. But he will not win a national election doing stuff like this going forward. If Rush doesn’t care to listen to that, Rush is the one being foolish.
I ditto Ace and Allah on this.
Mr. Joe on February 25, 2009 at 9:13 PM
No, I mean tripe about “personal responsibility” along with all the goodies. I mean the same old populist “Main Street versus Wall Street, bankers’ greed got us into this mess” garbage that we’ve heard ad nauseam.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Well, I’ve procrastinated long enough and I’ve got a lot of work to do, so I’m quitting this one tonight. It’s been fun, I appreciate the arguments. No hard feelings (of course).
Proud Rino on February 25, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Lucky for them they are all fuzzy and cute. Seriously at least they don’t seem as nasty as the posts I see on liberal sites. The difference between insane and crazed.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Since Rash Fatblob thinks Jindal did such a wonderful job, does that mean he agrees with Bobby’s praise for the immortal Osama Obama?
I don’t think so.
Rash slanged McCain right up to election day. In (rare) moments of honesty, he admitted we’d be better of with Mac than Octobama, but he sniped and sniped — as did Coulter and Michelle — and almost certainly put at least a small torpedo into McCain’s campaign.
He also knows damn well that delivery and presence mean a lot, because if they didn’t he’d be flipping burgers or still doing P.R. for a sports franchise.
Saying Jindal isn’t yet ready for prime time isn’t attacking him. He has time to learn. He needs to hone his skills and develop a truly effective speaking style the masses can see and relate to.
Swooning over him, as was done with Palin, is doing him no favors. He might not bother to work on his communication skills.
As for Rash, he needs to think before he pops off his mouth. His self-vaunted “accuracy ratio” just took a nosedive.
MrScribbler on February 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM
And the car.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM
I think you are in agreement with Nancy on the things you railed about in your manifesto.
In which states did the Republicans find themselves in trouble for not overturning sodomy laws fast enough for you? It sounds to me like you backed the federal judiciary’s meddling into state affairs on this issue, but you’ll have me know that you are plenty conservative on judges, federalism, etc.
Bush spent like a drunken sailor ( no offense to drunken sailors ), true enough, but you apparently feel that he was negligent in not raising taxes to pay for the extra spending. It seems to me that the treasury took in more dollars after the tax cuts than before the tax cuts.
It seems that your top three reasons for why the Republicans are in trouble are: 1. Laws against sodomy, even though you can’t show that these laws are damaging Republicans in states that actually have such laws 2. Not enough taxes 3. Not enough federal spending on baby parts research.
Buddahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM
No, I’m pointing out that you accused someone of rewriting history when, in fact, they are quoting history as it has been written.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/man-of-his-words.html
Saltysam on February 25, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Well, every once in a while Rush says something dumb and I guess this is just one of those times.
Conservatives try (or should) to face the world as it is and it’s just a fact that Jindal blew a major opportunity. It is to me inexplicable. I’ve seen him being interviewed and he is a natural talker, very sharp. How in the world could he not have worked with a professional or at least another experienced public speaker to smooth out his delivery?
edshepp on February 25, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Again, as you highlighted, he’s not taking issue with people that didn’t like the delivery, but that didn’t like *what was said*.
The beefing I’ve heard for the most part isn’t about what he said, but the ‘wooden’ way in which is delivered.
Midas on February 25, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Right On!
I blasted Jindal too. When you get 10 minutes with all the networks looking at you. Make it count!
Dadvocate on February 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM
All of Obama’s previous speeches were unqualified successes. Joe Biden explained the standard best: all Obama had to do was show that a black man could bathe himself and speak English, and the racists of America went ga-ga over their new darling.
Now that Obama is (for the first time in his entire life) in a position where he is actually DOING something, he’s utterly outside his element. He didn’t say a word before, during or after the election to justify any of these draconian fiats. Now, he’s doing nothing but rationalizing. And, frankly, he’s doing it very poorly.
In other words, the bar for Obama’s performance has gone from infantiley simple to utterly impossible. Being “clean” and “articulate” was more than enough to get him to where he is. But I’m not sure that’s going to cut it from here on out.
logis on February 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Or tripe like this:
Santa Claus has arrived.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Not the first time I’ve thought your comment matches your name.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:21 PM
I’m way late and this have probably been said, but I think Rush has a strong point. Jindal said what needed to be said. His delivery wasn’t good; but, do you ball kick your pizza guy for driving a 12 y/o rusty honda accord or do you eat you pizza and pay him whats due?
Sense when did style matter over substance?
liquidflorian on February 25, 2009 at 9:21 PM
I wouldn’t worry about it. I think conservatives all know what the story is, and just about everyone likes Jindal. The rest is just a little bluster here and there. I don’t think it’s a big deal.
Heh. I like that.
I didn’t take it that way. People are just getting worried about the speed at which the left is moving to make irreparable changes and want to see that concern reflected by the “higher ups” in the GOP. I don’t think anyone threw Jindal under the bus. Everyone knows he’s good – very good. He just has to get a little tougher (along with the rest of the GOP).
I’ve been pretty harsh in my criticism of Allah on more than a few occasions.
Like I said, I wouldn’t worry about this, Cindy. I don’t see anyone on our side who even comes close to Obama-bots. It’s just not somethign that the right is really susceptible to, since our ideology is based on rationality and ideas, whereas the left is emotionally-based. I think this discussion about Jindal’s speech is good medicine, and is taking place at a good time.
What really, really worries me is the coming amnesty bill. You know that that is going to come flying through Congress sometime soon, and that might well tear the right to shreds. That is what I really fear, in terms of harming our side and leaving the US totally in the grips of the socialists and America-haters.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 9:23 PM
GOP Governor Sanford: Rush Limbaugh Is An “Idiot”
Thank you.
getalife on February 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Your radio has a dial on it, I would think. Change the station.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:24 PM
His “accuracy ratio” is based on his opinion, judged by that all of us would have near perfect accuracy. How do you disagree with your own opinion? Less then perfect leaves room for changing your mind. I think it’s safe to say that it is a joke.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:25 PM
lots of great posts here, and I hope I don’t come across as a hater, but…..If S.Palin is the future of the party…where was she last night? They got the Gov of Louisiana, why not Alaska? Missed opportunity? GA
greataunty on February 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I am not a big fan of Rush but he is dead-on accurate with this issue. I am a conservative and I have to say there are a lot of whiney ass bitches that say they are conservative but act like scared little sissy’s in the shadow of BO. I measure a man on what he says and not his style of speaking. Maybe Jindal should have consulted with an American Idol coach before he spoke last night…..apparently style is everything for certain women and the Beta males that comprise too much of the Republican party.
David in ATL on February 25, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I wonder when Obama is going to call Olbermann an idiot? Heh.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I was a registered “Independent” for years & years. About 4 years ago, I took the leap & registered Republican. I hadn’t heard a thing for years that a Democrat had said that made any sense to me.
I’m ready to go Libertarian, Republican party getting to be a little too left-wing for me lately.
Colorado Anne on February 25, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Ouch!
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM
You’re right, I just tend to go all mom when the group is fighting. I saw a quote on Instapundit about the border fence being “shovel ready”. I wish I could remember who said they deserve the credit. Shoot, the money is already there. The speed that this administration is making changes and spending money is astounding. I am trying hard not to be too pessimistic but it’s like a bulldozer.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:30 PM
I doubt KO will play leader of a party.
I suggest the gop follow Sanford’s lead and call rush an idiot.
getalife on February 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM
You’re not a hater, it’s a valid question. Obviously I don’t know for certain but I think she has been taking a lot of heat for her time away from her duties. And I would guess the strategy is to be an excellent governor and broaden her base of knowledge. Nothing speaks louder than results.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Have you ever listened to Limbaugh? I’m guessing you haven’t. Typical. Libs do the same thing in economics, I guess.
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Anyway, KO has a microphone and expresses some pretty screwy political views. It’s about time the Democrats bring him to heel, dontcha think?
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 9:37 PM
I’m not afraid of Rush. He has his opinions and I have mine. He has some good ones, granted, but he’s stuck in concrete in some places….but then again, I’m thinking I may be a Libertarian these days and I’m waiting for Allah to make this third party so I know where to send my contributions…..hint hint.
Jindal’s problem was simply a matter of mechanics. He does WAY better speaking off the cuff than he does reading off a teleprompter like sock puppet does, and does well because he’s ultimately refined in being a complete fake.
I have NO respect for sock puppet in cheif…/spit. I do have respect for Jindal, and my respect for Rush is becoming questionable because he is ~too~ immovable sometimes (depending on the issue of course).
Spiritk9 on February 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Not her time. She needs to focus on Alaska, win re-election in 2010 and re-introduce herself in 2011.
Ted Torgerson on February 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM
I think many conservatives are tired of hearing their leaders, real conservatives, being ragged on by Rinos, the MSM and other sh*tbag liberals. Bobby Jindal put our views out there. If you like what you hear, then join the club. If you don’t, put on your kneepads and pray to dear leader.
HornetSting on February 25, 2009 at 9:39 PM
I am calling BS on that one.
I stand here today, uhhhhhhhhhhh, humbled by the task before us, grateful for uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the trust you have bestowed, mindful of the sacrifices borne by our ummmmmmmmmmmm ancestors. I thank President Bush for his service to our uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh nation, as well as the generosity and cooperation he has shown throughout this transition.
Forty-four Americans uhhhhhhhhhhhhh have now taken the presidential oath. The words have been spoken during rising tides of uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh prosperity and the still waters of peace. Yet, every so often the oath is taken amidst uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gathering clouds and raging storms. At these moments, America has uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh carried on not simply because of the skill or vision of those in high office, but uhhhhhhhhhhhhh because We the People have remained faithful to the ideals of our forbearers, and true to our founding documents.
If Obama had given his inaugural address like that, it would have been hailed as a great speech.
RobertInLexington on February 25, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Right. KO gives all Dems a bad name. Cut him off at the knees and things will go much more smoothly for us all, wink, wink.
I might even vote Dem next time if that KO wasn’t broadcasting any longer.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Republicans have this need to find their own obamessiah. Instead of sticking to priciples they want to create their own cult of personality. Democrats and republicans, you both suck. BTW whats the difference?
paulsur on February 25, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Hey getalife, why did Obama’s parents dislike him so much that they both abandoned him? Do liberals ever claim their young?
ClassicCon on February 25, 2009 at 9:42 PM
I don’t listen to talk radio. Can you be specific? What issues would you like him to “move” his opinion on?
Connie on February 25, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Yeah. People act like they enjoy doing this for their entire lives.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:43 PM
That’s pretty harsh, children have no control over adults.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Was with you until the last sentence. But the difference is easy. Dems hate the country.
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:45 PM
If you believe in something, you stand by it. You don’t go all wishy washy like Rinos and Moderates, even ‘Proud’ Moderates like getalife.
HornetSting on February 25, 2009 at 9:46 PM
It may have been the slight southern accent that’s throwing some people off. As I said last night, I wasn’t impressed but no one is going to remember Jindal’s speech which is a plus.
SouthernGent on February 25, 2009 at 9:48 PM
A “little” tougher?
Let’s don’t beat around the bush here. As rebuttal speeches go, Jindal’s was about average. (Bearing in mind that most of them totally suck ass.)
But everyone knows that this was a preliminary audition for the next Presidential Primaries. By that standard the delivery was – at best – lackluster.
And the content, as I see it, was even worse. Sure, jabbering about general conservative principles is more than many members of the Republican Caucas can manage. But Jindal failed miserably at the primary trait that any Republican presidential candidate will need in 2012: A willingness to criticize The One.
Instead, Bobby Jindal opened his speech with a heartfelt expression of just how gosh darned proud he is that Barack Obama is President of the United States. That attack didn’t work in 2008, and I’m pretty damned sure that it won’t work in 2012 either.
logis on February 25, 2009 at 9:49 PM
The republicans that you speak of are probably rinos, not conservatives. They tend to bend over for anyone. Difference between rinos and democrats. NONE, you are right, they both suck.
HornetSting on February 25, 2009 at 9:51 PM
Just playing his game…better keep up. Hey getalife, why did Obama say America invented the car?
ClassicCon on February 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM
It is quite obvious…do the opposite that this loser Needsalife suggests. Oh I mean get a life.
Jamson64 on February 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM
It really is ALL about you, isn’t it AP?
jnelchef on February 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM
I expect everyone to overcompensate about Pres. Obama until his poll numbers fall more. It’s a strategy. It is nauseating but remember Republicans are hateful and mean. I would love it if we pushed back against that media manufactured perception.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Every other time I’ve seen/heard Jindal, he’s been spot on. I’m willing to bet that last night is a rarity for Jindal. Might as well get it out of the way.
Saltysam on February 25, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Sorry, carry on.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I believe even if Jindal was ‘spot on’, he would have been jabbed in the media, anyway. They are so far up Obama’s arse, when he stops, they get stuck. I doesn’t matter.
If you are a conservative, you listened to what he had to say and you agreed, no matter if he had unicorns or greek columns or a donkey show behind him.
HornetSting on February 25, 2009 at 9:58 PM
I think my biggest complaint would be staging and my guess would be that wasn’t his call. It will soon be forgotten.
Cindy Munford on February 25, 2009 at 10:02 PM
I’m becoming increasingly amazed at the ability of Republicans / Conservatives to rip their own over the most minor things and provide ammunition to the left to shoot at our guy’s too. I think the critisism of Jindal is a indication of a larger problem. Instead of looking at how Jindal has backed up his ideals with action, let’s rip him a new one because he didn’t give a inspiring speech?
And Republicans don’t need their own version of a “messiah”, they need firm and steady leadership. The $400 billion bill that passed the house today, 9,000 earmarks and 40% of them belonged to Repulican House members.
Hog Wild on February 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Obama looked presidentisl last night and this made Jindall looked weak and amateurish in comparison. It’s going to be extremely difficult to defeat Obama in 2012 absent some catastophie in the administration.
Atlanta Voter on February 25, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Shoud have shortened Jindal’s speech and showed this clip (which I am sure many of you have seen):
Fox News regarding Financial Crisis History
Americans need to be reeducated on why we are here.
WashJeff on February 25, 2009 at 10:12 PM
A monkey reading a monitor can look ‘presidential’, uh oh, racist. He can read, goody for him. He is still sending the country down the highway to hell.
When his welfare rats don’t get their gas tanks filled and their rents paid, they will find some other thing to do on election day.
HornetSting on February 25, 2009 at 10:13 PM
Yes. You are correct, logis. I don’t know why I put the “little” in.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM
I am sure no one will read this on the 5th page but I have to go ahead and say that what Rush said was perfectly understandable to me.
jzzr83 on February 25, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Don’tcha hate it when you write a masterful piece of work stating your opinion that you know for real that lots of bloggers will agree on, and you revise and recheck it constantly to be sure the message is delivered with proper grammar, punctuation and eloquency as the One?
Don’tcha hate it when you are basically done, the notebook switches offline and all that you wrote is G O N E ?
Please people, copy and paste constantly. Then hit “Preview” then “Submit Comment”. Unfortunately my meds have me right now with a short term memory loss a-la-Dory from Finding Nemo…MM’s favorite character.
ProudPalinFan on February 25, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Huckabee was never the conservative that Jindal is. And Huckabee was the reason we got stuck with McCain. Rush knew this and was right in calling Huckabee out. And as I recall, Huckabee did what Sanford did, essentially went after Rush first. Rush was right about Huckabee and he is right about Jindal. Jindal was better in his interviews today with Hannity and , but I for one am glad that last night he admitted to Republicans that the crazy moderate RINO’s seriously let us down when they had a chance for greatness! I still won’t send money to the RNC after the way they left us high and dry, but if more Republicans start acting like and sounding like Jindal, I might come back. And Rush, your 99% record is still good with me regardless of the HA Rush wannabees.
Christian Conservative on February 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Hi ddrintn. I hope you are doing well. Rush Limbo didn’t destroy Huckabee’s candidacy, he, along with Hannity, Ingraham, Beck (and other Republican media personalities) worked jointly to sabotage Huck’s almost-a-miracle-campaign by hammering him throughout the Republican primaries — with unadulterated LIES. Again, Limbo is an “indulgant” elite only worried about his pocketbooks. He has tens of millions of listeners, and NEVER MADE ANYTHING OF IT, never made a mass movement. Radio talk show hosts like him DO NOT represent the silent majority of this country. Truth is, unless we COMPLETELY CHANGE THE STATUS QUO, we will never have a real conservative movement and if we do not have a real conservative movement, then America is literally doomed.
It is NOT acceptable to the American people that the Republican media they are told to trust as good sources of information are liars. “Forget” or “get over it already” is exactly what those whited sepulchres want us to do. They tore down a life-long committed pro-life conservatives like Huckabee at a time when grass roots conservatives were starting to catch on that we had something special. The Republican media lost a clear connection between the people watching who knew what was going on with Huckabee and began following their own agenda instead. The other candidates come to you, but Huckabee comes from you. No. We won’t forget. We will never surrender. NEVER. And we’ll continue to warn others about these lying con artists who sing Christian hymms while all the time linning their pockets …in bed with Corporate America. They can bank on that.
apacalyps on February 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Rash Lamebrain and his faithful Re-pube-lican lemmings are headed for the cliff. Rot In Hell Fascists!!
jacobnyc on February 25, 2009 at 10:20 PM
I agree with Rush.
lanesmerge on February 25, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Well, Obama has already enacted a significant item of his agenda, and more will follow. Health Care reform will move most of the middle class into the Democratic column. Card Check legistration will create 20 million new union members and Democratic Party members. Immigration Reform will do the same. His supporters will be there. I wouldn’t be surpirsed if Obama won well over 400 electoral votes in 2012.
Atlanta Voter on February 25, 2009 at 10:22 PM
This is getting blow up for nothing. Key word in the quote above is “said.” What he said was good. The delivery was awful though.
deidre on February 25, 2009 at 10:25 PM
LOL. Been there, done that.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 10:26 PM
apacalyps:
What? Get a grip man.
Vince on February 25, 2009 at 10:26 PM
One of the new brilliant recruits from the last open subscription? I wonder how long we will be graced with his articulate discourse in this forum.
neuquenguy on February 25, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Rush. The voice of reason…. as opposed to Allahpundit who is the voice of emotion.
Vince on February 25, 2009 at 10:28 PM
Yeah, believing this nonsense tells me you know what your talking about.
You confident about that? How did Huckabee go after Rush first?
apacalyps on February 25, 2009 at 10:30 PM
JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Agreed. On a thread several days ago about Peanut Carter he was totally clueless that Ramsey Clark was part of Carter’s Iran Hostages fiasco and those facts didn’t seem to sink in. Most likely he’s a DNC troll newly registered last week.
viking01 on February 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Rush shouldn’t have boosted Jindal’s credentials the day before the rebuttal without knowing how Jindal would perform.
Never ASSUME anything not in evidence.
technopeasant on February 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM
That’s the plan. How it works out remains to be seen. But, I’m not one to become an O-bot just because they have the upper hand at the moment.
I wonder how much Fox is paying Huckabee these days?
ddrintn on February 25, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Governor Jindal was O.K., but he did not counter Obama’s performance. I did and do expect more because what Obama is doing is insanely responsible, and there can be an effective counter now. If you are going to speak for the GOP, you have to be countering Obama. Rush’s comments about Governor Jindal’s performance are not simply not dealing with reality. That is not helpful.
Ask yourself: what would you expect of Ronald Reagan in 1977? It would not have been merely O.K..
Right now, Sean Hannity is a more positive force for conservatism than Rush Limbaugh. I still listen to Rush when I can because when he talks about Obama, Rush has good insights. But Rush is unnecesarily destructive at times about Republicans (and I am not calling about turncoats Spector, Snowe and Collins). For one example, John McCain stood strong and was very visible against the Democrat spending bill, rightly calling it generational theft. Yet, Rush is running parodies of McCain as if McCain has been aiding Obama’s spending spree. That is not helpful.
Phil Byler on February 25, 2009 at 10:33 PM
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