Rush: If you think Jindal reeked last night, I don’t want to hear from you again

posted at 6:10 pm on February 25, 2009 by Allahpundit

Sounds like Ace and I are now Republican personas non grata. As are an awful lot of commenters in last night’s megathread, I might add.

That’s okay. One of these days Andy Levy and I are going to start a secular, hawkish, (mostly) libertarian third party. You’re all welcome to join.

So, where are we? We as conservatives are in the wilderness, and many of you are hopeless. So we have a guy, Bobby Jindal, 37 years old, first time on the national stage, shows up last night to make a response to The Messiah. All he did was articulate what we believe. All he did was articulate opposition to what Obama is doing, with the obligatory when he’s right, we’ll work with him, just like we worked with Clinton on NAFTA, just like we worked with Clinton on welfare reform after we brought him in. These things happen. It doesn’t mean that we lose our distrust. All Bobby Jindal did was tell us what conservatism is; he used his own life story to do it; he talked about the American people making the country work. He had it all. Now, he may not have done it in the same stylistic way as Obama. I can understand the Democrats trashing the man, just as they trashed Sarah Palin. They are mean-spirited, heartless, horrible winners. But the people on our side are really making a mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal on the basis of style.

Because if you think people on our side, I’m talking to you, those of you who think Jindal was horrible, in fact, I don’t want to hear from you ever again if you think that what Bobby Jindal said was bad or what he said was wrong or not said well, because, folks, style is not going to take our country back. Solid conservatism articulated in a way that’s inspiring and understanding is what’s going to take the country back. Bobby Jindal’s 37 years old. I’ve spoken to him numerous times. He’s brilliant. He’s the real deal. I’m not coming here to defend him, he doesn’t need that. We’re going to have to figure out what we want. Do we want to have somebody in our party who can sound as smart as Obama regardless what he says and convince people to vote for us, or do we believe in a set of principles that defined this country’s founding and will return it to greatness again?

Answer: Both, and it’s amazing that a guy who worships the Great Communicator and whose own net worth has reached nine digits on the strength of his communication skills would pose that as an either/or. Jindal will shake this off but the fact remains that he blew an opportunity to turn himself into a breakout star a la Obama at the 2004 convention. He’s touted as a sort of boy genius, but a boy genius should have been able to figure out a way not to be actively bad, even if it meant being merely boring. He couldn’t, so his image took a hit. What’s the problem with admitting that? If he was doomed to fail because of the setting — and he surely wasn’t doomed to fail as badly as he did — he should have adapted by changing it and doing the speech in front of a small audience (or a big one). He’s supposed to be the solutions guy, right?

Not a big deal either way, but I’m not sure why it’s heresy to take a dim view of this. Special exit quotation for all the Dittoheads: “People who don’t believe in God believe in Obama. Agnostics, atheists, because believe me, a planeload of atheists on a jet on the way to Hawaii and three of the four engines go out, the atheists start praying to who? God. Not the ocean, to save ‘em. Everybody believes in God at some point, but not until they face their mortality. Everybody does. They have some God. Very few people think they’re it. Obama is one. I think when Obama prays, it’s to himself.”


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Just remember that Rush, Sean, Laura all strongly backed Mitt….look where that got us. They used their influence to back a candidate and strongly speak out against the two Republicans that had the most Republican support: Huck and McCain.

arizonateacher on February 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Rush has a point and it is a good one. The flyover part of the country relates to people like Palin and Jindal..honest, hardworking, trustworthy, everyday people.
kthomas8268 on February 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I divide the American electorate into three main categories. There are true conservatives, hard-core liberals, and those who are in the middle… living their lives in a generally conservative fashion – God bless them -but liberal in terms of their media savvy and ability to think in a critical fashion (i.e., easily influenced airheads.)

The boundaries will always be fuzzy but if you assume the three groups are roughly equal in size, I think this makes for a very workable political model. The battleground will always be that middle group and, as we are all painfully aware, the liberals have a huge institutional advantage there.

Energizing your base improves turnout, and that’s always nice, but it also allows you to reach members of that middle ground that no amount of campaign commercials ever will. And that makes it a far more significant factor for Republicans than it is for Democrats.

Reagan was a master at that. Palin has proven her ability as well. True, she has the edge right now in being considered “stupid” by the intelligentsia; however, a contemporary comparison is not entirely fair to Reagan. People tend to forget now, but back in his day, he more than held his own in that regard.

Likewise, Palin was no more able to single-handedly get McCain elected than Reagan was able to push Barry “Mr. Charisma” Goldwater into the Oval Office. But a failure at an impossible task is also not a fair measure of ability.

Every candidate for the office of President needs brilliant advisors — and Bobby Jindal would be stellar in that role. But you can’t hire charisma or delegate horse sense. You either have ‘em or you don’t.

logis on February 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM

Jindal spells DOOM for the GOP. Why can’t Rush see that?

eclectic infidel on February 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Rush has a point and it is a good one. The flyover part of the country relates to people like Palin and Jindal..honest, hardworking, trustworthy, everyday people. This is the era of liberal elitists unless you are in with the “cocktail crowd” you are nothing, worthless and stupid.

Quite frankly people in middle American are getting tired of the “uppity ways” of the liberal media and east/west coast liberal crap. I am one of them. I wouldn’t be opposed if the US wanted to secede from California.

Sorry Conservative Californians… but we’ll take ya! Lower taxes here!! hee hee

kthomas8268 on February 26, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Ah, but there’s one of the nastier aspects of America’s current predicament: the voters in flyover country are vastly outmatched in political power by urban voters. It’s not just a question of raw voting totals, or even electoral votes… the problem is that urban voters tend to act more as united blocs, giving them more power in the collectivist system we have slowly mutated into. Urban voters are easier to buy off, and easier to frighten. They are much more accustomed to having expensive municipal services addressing various aspects of their daily lives. The self-reliant rancher in Wyoming thinks nationalized health care is silly; the New Yorker who rides a city train to work, and deals with ten huge city agencies every day, finds it odd that his health care is not already provided by the Federal Bureau of Health. Similarly, urban voters are much more comfortable with the idea that big problems naturally require massive, centrally planned solutions, and accepts inefficiency and graft with weary resignation, rather than outrage.

As populations continue to collect into urban areas, and even formerly deep-red states begin to turn blue from massive cities forming in them, it will be increasingly necessary for conservatives to speak to urban voters in a manner they find engaging, without sacrificing conservative principles. Rural Illinois is filled with faithful subscribers to National Review who love to hear common-sense, plain-spoken conservative speeches. Because of Chicago, their votes count for virtually nothing.

Doctor Zero on February 26, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Apparently AP and other “personas non grata” grade style over content, which is the type of person from whom Rush doesn’t want to hear.

Either that, or he’s acting like a liberal who got his feelings hurt and is mischaracterizing what he actually said.

eforhan on February 26, 2009 at 3:53 PM

What you are all forgetting, including you Allah, is that Rush is deaf.

I’m not making a joke. Brit Hume noted that the speech “read better” than it was executed and he’s right. on paper, it was a great speech. Limbaugh couldnt hear the wooden delivery. he hears with his cochlear implant, but not regular hearing, so he didnt get the awkward woodeness to it and what he’s saying is in that context…….

Drunk Report on February 26, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Just remember that Rush, Sean, Laura all strongly backed Mitt….look where that got us.
arizonateacher on February 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM

I respectfully disagree that Rush backed Mitt Romney, he was my favorite, but Rush never actually endorsed him. I like Huckabee, but he would not have gotten elected due to his being a minister, too religious for our pious Libs, many Independents and the Washington Elite in the Republican party. Mac was my last choice, for obvious reasons, but still would have been so much better than O.

Bobby Jindal is usually more charismatic then he showed the other night, but geez, give the guy a break. How hard is it to follow “The One” when he has the Whole House and Senate plus all the other audience there in that backdrop, and Jindal has to stand in a vacant, cavernous room by himself.

Regardless of Obama’s oratory skills, Jindal still said 100 times more than than he did. A lot of words about nothing, as usual, same old, same old.

You can tell that the Dems are obviously scared of the guy by the way they are reacting. Ditto, Palin. It doesn’t matter how well they speak or carry themselves, they have to put them down because they know that Jidal and Palin, each by themselves, has more brains then Obama’s whole family put together.

I say Palin – Jidal ’2012′ or Jindal – Palin ’2012″! Both young, but by 2012, ten times more experienced than Obamaman!

Susanboo on February 26, 2009 at 4:00 PM

I don’t think it was the best delivered speech, but the substance was fine. I’m not worried about Jindel. He’s much better unscripted, however, he’ll get better and will recover. I recall the Bill Clinton’s first national speech was widely criticized as awful too and even though I can’t stand him, he greatly improved his speaking skills. So it’s not time to panic about the Presidential candidate of 2012. 2010 is where everyone should be focused now!

CrusaderPatriot on February 26, 2009 at 4:17 PM

At least they’re more willing to serve the people than some random Third World country.

sethstorm on February 26, 2009 at 7:50 AM

Oh yeah? My state could make better use of $900 million than Hamas.

ddrintn on February 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM

What you are all forgetting, including you Allah, is that Rush is deaf.

I’m not making a joke. Brit Hume noted that the speech “read better” than it was executed and he’s right. on paper, it was a great speech. Limbaugh couldnt hear the wooden delivery. he hears with his cochlear implant, but not regular hearing, so he didnt get the awkward woodeness to it and what he’s saying is in that context…….

Drunk Report on February 26, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Thank you for bringing that out. I knew that, but many people don’t.

I respectfully disagree that Rush backed Mitt Romney, he was my favorite, but Rush never actually endorsed him.
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Regardless of Obama’s oratory skills, Jindal still said 100 times more than than he did.
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Susanboo on February 26, 2009 at 4:00 PM

Thank you, too, Susan. Rush has always made it a point to never officially back/endorse anyone. Excellent points!

leepro on February 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Who cares if he’s bad now? He is a true Conservative; he’s 37 y/o and is still very new to the TV screen. He’ll get better. Just watch other videos of him during Q&A’s when he is such a good debater and can rattle off facts like crazy. He may not be the next Reagan, but he is so much better than listening to whiney McCain or some of the other RINOS. Give him a break. He’ll get better.

scottjenn on February 26, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Bobby Jindal must have done something right because the left is screeching at high decibels about his speech. Jindal scares the pants off them in the same way Palin does. The left can’t bear to allow people with integrity, belief in a higher power,loyalty to traditional American values to have a public venue of any kind. When we hear the high decibels we know the pod people are frightened.

Ah, but there’s one of the nastier aspects of America’s current predicament: the voters in flyover country are vastly outmatched in political power by urban voters. It’s not just a question of raw voting totals, or even electoral votes… the problem is that urban voters tend to act more as united blocs, giving them more power in the collectivist system we have slowly mutated into. Urban voters are easier to buy off, and easier to frighten. They are much more accustomed to having expensive municipal services addressing various aspects of their daily lives. The self-reliant rancher in Wyoming thinks nationalized health care is silly; the New Yorker who rides a city train to work, and deals with ten huge city agencies every day, finds it odd that his health care is not already provided by the Federal Bureau of Health. Similarly, urban voters are much more comfortable with the idea that big problems naturally require massive, centrally planned solutions, and accepts inefficiency and graft with weary resignation, rather than outrage.

Of course Dr. Zero is right – the power of the urban voter bloc outweighs those of us in flyover country. And as the urbanites move out of the nasty cesspools they have created and move into red states, they bring their diseased leftist ideology with them becoming voters turning red states blue.

kooziegirl on February 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM

And what are you all talking about anyway? I was very surprised to see Jindal perform poorly, he had done so well every other time I have seen him. The guy is a Rhodes Scholar for Pete’s Sake – it’s not like he’s some country bumpkin.

Besides, which would you rather have a guy who doesn’t perform as well with a teleprompter, or someone who excels extemporaneously? Ideally, it would be great to have both, but sometimes, you can’t have everything.

Queen0fCups on February 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Jindal spells DOOM for the GOP. Why can’t Rush see that?

eclectic infidel on February 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Do you have any data to back up such an outrageous claim? Or, did you come here just to sling some shit around and see if any of it sticks?

Bobby Jindal is a rising star in the GOP… That is a fact that has many (or all) of the Liberal twits targeting their rifles right at his head.

Keemo on February 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Of course Dr. Zero is right – the power of the urban voter bloc outweighs those of us in flyover country. And as the urbanites move out of the nasty cesspools they have created and move into red states, they bring their diseased leftist ideology with them becoming voters turning red states blue.

kooziegirl on February 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Very true. NC may end up looking a lot like NJ. Ditto VA.

ddrintn on February 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM

$1.8 million for swine odor and manure management in the ‘stimulus’ bill – how epic is this?

Entelechy on February 26, 2009 at 5:28 PM

One day soon, you are going to realize Franken and Sanford were right about rush.

getalife on February 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Guess you missed this part.

RUSH: That was November the 8th on this program. Mr. Rollins, who’s now the campaign chieftain for Mike Huckabee, is saying that I am part of the New York or Wall Street-DC axis, the media elite axis, that didn’t see any of this coming.

Christian Conservative on February 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I didn’t miss anything. You are really something you know that. Making false accusations about somebody with no evidence to back it up. I posted earlier in this thread, I said, “If Rush was so worried about conservatism he wouldn’t have lied through his teeth in this hit-piece on Mike Huckabee.” T

apacalyps on February 26, 2009 at 6:17 PM

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apacalyps on February 26, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Of course Dr. Zero is right – the power of the urban voter bloc outweighs those of us in flyover country. And as the urbanites move out of the nasty cesspools they have created and move into red states, they bring their diseased leftist ideology with them becoming voters turning red states blue.

kooziegirl on February 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Very true. NC may end up looking a lot like NJ. Ditto VA.

ddrintn on February 26, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Sad but true. Both states have succumbed. I nearly fainted when I realized the Creepy One’s Cult won in NC. And we have an enormous (don’t know the exact #’s) population of young college age cultists, especially throughout the UNC system, including the sainted and most holy UNC Commie Hill. Duke is already known as the University of South Jersey.

kooziegirl on February 26, 2009 at 8:01 PM

I’m so scared of Bobby Jindal as a Democrat because conservatives keep telling me this. Conservatives have been wrong about everything but all of a sudden I’m supposed to be very afraid of Jindal. I hope like hell he runs in 2012. A southern far right winger, yep just what this country will climb aboard for. You’ve lost the northeast, Great Lake States, now the West. All you got left in the old confederacy so Jindal is perfect. Keep digging that hole deeper.

athensboy on February 26, 2009 at 8:53 PM

One day soon, you are going to realize Franken and Sanford were right about rush.

getalife on February 26, 2009 at 5:39 PM

One day soon, you are going to realize that no one here cares what you think.

Disturb the Universe on February 26, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Again we have Rush stating exactly what I was thinking, but I thought that when the political pundits started in right after Jindal’s rebuttal.

I saw the thread here concerning Jindal, and did not read through it, did not click on it, and refuse to do so as I know exactly what sort of nasty stuff that contained. Disgusting!

See how easy it is to pantomime Rush haters? No knowledge, or experience needed. :oP

DannoJyd on February 26, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Oh yeah? My state could make better use of $900 million than Hamas.

ddrintn on February 26, 2009 at 4:49 PM

If you’re wondering, I’m on the side of Israel.

sethstorm on February 26, 2009 at 9:25 PM

getalife==

i love how you trolls love to attack rush

only ensures me he is saying the right things

you are a joke and will always be

Jamson64 on February 26, 2009 at 10:36 PM

apacalyps on February 26, 2009 at 6:17 PM

What might be scaring them is that he’s a bit more religious than the rest.

I’d admit that Huckabee is the kind of Republican I could stand – he balances business with religion. He might be from the South, but isn’t a Sanford style Republican.

sethstorm on February 26, 2009 at 10:55 PM

I’d admit that Huckabee is the kind of Republican I could stand – he balances business with religion. He might be from the South, but isn’t a Sanford style Republican.

sethstorm on February 26, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Like those liberals, eh?

Johan Klaus on February 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM

I took the Jindal response as a walk through of the real fight at hand. I salute him for the message. We need good speakers with the balls to attack any and every lefty in the way of the movement. He will emerge a better man for all this hoop la about last night.

hiphopconservative on February 27, 2009 at 1:11 AM

What might be scaring them is that he’s a bit more religious than the rest. I’d admit that Huckabee is the kind of Republican I could stand – he balances business with religion.

sethstorm on February 26, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Seth, you are 100% right! I just commented about this in another thread where some faux-cons continue to perpuate lies and distortions about Huck. He loves God and they hate God. I’m sorry to say, but that’s what it comes down to for many of these people attacking Huckabee – to the detriment of the nation. Huckabee is a gifted man who really wants to do good for America.

apacalyps on February 27, 2009 at 4:06 AM

Like those liberals, eh?

Johan Klaus on February 27, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Are you dumb or just stupid?

apacalyps on February 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM

Wow! 7 hundred posts, plus, and counting? Just the mere mention of his name - El Rushbo – cause liberals and RINOs to start foaming at the mouth and gasping for air. I love it! Ha! Ha! Ha!

RMR on February 27, 2009 at 7:38 AM

apacalyps on February 27, 2009 at 4:06 AM

So Rush and I hate God???

Wow, you have never listend to him or seen me post then…

I don’t hate Huck, just don’t think he’s the Conservative I want, not saying he’s not Conservative… But I lean towards the Jindal / Palin type… Still, not saying Huck is a bad guy or bad for the party… He’d be the best press sec EVER and even better then Tony Snow… And that’s a HUGE complimnet… Tony was true Conservative in my book, but Huck would be better for expousing our core…

I just feel overal Jindal and Palin, Sanford and Cantor are moree to my beliefs… So why call out Rush and people like me as Anti-God> ???

Mark Garnett on February 27, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Regardless of Jindal’s message, which was spot on, he lacks gravitas. Rush knows all about gravitas; Reagan had it in spades. Gravitas wins elections. I really, really, really wish that instead of Jindal, the GOP had given the response to Boehner. Anyone who doubts this would have been more effective, watch This Clip.

The last thing we need is to give libs and dems something else to laugh over. If you doubt me, just watch the next SNL.

bilups on February 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM

“Jindal Aide: Story In Speech Was False:

A spokeswoman for Bobby Jindal tells Politico that a story in his GOP response speech to Obama Tuesday night — in which Jindal backed a tough-talking sheriff’s efforts to rescue Katrina victims, government red-tape be damned — actually did not take place during the storm, and did not directly involve the governor.”

Go figure.

getalife on February 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM

So Jindal is a liar as well as a fool. Just like Limbaugh is!

starfleet_dude on February 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM

You’re missing the point about Jindal’s fib, DannoJyd:

But now, a Jindal spokeswoman has admitted to Politico that in reality, Jindal overheard Lee talking about the episode to someone else by phone “days later.” The spokeswoman said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, was being interviewed about the incident at the time.

This is no minor difference. Jindal’s presence in Lee’s office during the crisis itself was a key element of the story’s intended appeal, putting him at the center of the action during the maelstrom. Just as important, Jindal implied that his support for the sheriff helped ensure the rescue went ahead. But it turns out Jindal wasn’t there at the key moment, and played no role in making the rescue happen.

There’s a larger point here, though. The central anecdote of the GOP’s prime-time response to President Obama’s speech, intended to illustrate the threat of excessive government regulation, turns out to have been made up.

starfleet_dude on February 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I think when Obama prays, it’s to himself.

Right on Rush.

Christianity is about thanking God for all the blessings he bestows upon us. Atheists are simply ingrates.

mike_NC9 on February 27, 2009 at 4:50 PM

ditto that!

neal7 on February 27, 2009 at 4:57 PM

starfleet_dude on February 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM

I tried to find that Politico article, and did find a lot of the nutroot caca lies, but had zero luck on discovering the actual article. Perhaps we can agree to trust the late Sheriff Harry Lee on the issue.

Trusting any third party, let alone a fourth party’ is apt to get you labeled as a ‘nutroot’, but not by me. I’ll just chalk up your gross error to yet another piss poor pubic skool edumakation.

DannoJyd on February 27, 2009 at 7:44 PM

So Jindal is a liar as well as a fool. Just like Limbaugh is!

starfleet_dude on February 27, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Doktor, heal thyself.

DannoJyd on February 27, 2009 at 7:45 PM

If anyone thinks we’re going to need an Obama-con clone to win in 2012, yer sadly mistaken. We can run a dead Cow and win after Obama drives this economy into the ground. His own economic advisor is now drinking the koolade she despised and happily so! She has a WH job! Oh happy happy joy joy!

So you guys bicker over Limbaugh and something that no one will agree with, meanwhile the rest of us started a grassroots movt to try and re-steer this barge away from the oncoming tsunami of default if Skippy keeps spending money like its coming out of a faucet. Try paying for a bag of carrots with the newly minted $1,000,000 bill with Skippy’s wench’s pic on it.

As well, did anyone see the chicoms are buys property in the US?

JP1986UM on February 27, 2009 at 7:47 PM

“Jindal Aide: Story In Speech Was False:

A spokeswoman for Bobby Jindal tells Politico that a story in his GOP response speech to Obama Tuesday night — in which Jindal backed a tough-talking sheriff’s efforts to rescue Katrina victims, government red-tape be damned — actually did not take place during the storm, and did not directly involve the governor.”

Go figure.

getalife on February 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM

You wouldn’t really be able to rescue anyone during the storm due to the storm, now would you? And by the way, Jindal was not the governor during Katrina, now was he?

jimmy2shoes on February 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM

ITS TRUE. Atheists and Christ-hating fags typically love Obama.

Call it a clue folks.

TheMightyQuinn on February 28, 2009 at 1:52 AM

I don’t hate Huck, just don’t think he’s the Conservative I want, not saying he’s not Conservative… But I lean towards the Jindal / Palin type… Still, not saying Huck is a bad guy or bad for the party…

Mark Garnett on February 27, 2009 at 9:59 AM

That’s a fair comment. I have no problem with the people who offer reasonable criticism. Go for it.

So why call out .. people like me as Anti-God???

Not everybody. I said, “Some faux-cons continue to perpuate lies and distortions about Huck. He loves God and they hate God. I’m sorry to say, but that’s what it comes down to for many of these people attacking Huckabee – to the detriment of the nation.”

Faux-cons are fake conservatives. Add to that people who just hate God. Those are the people I am referring too. Huck haters who dishonestly criticize Huckabee, distort what he says, believes, his record and his positions and then slander him. If you boil away all the fluff and feathers, it is their hate for God that is behind all of this. And they are too cowardly to admit it. I truly believe that. Thank you.

apacalyps on February 28, 2009 at 4:10 AM

Rash Lamebrain and his faithful Re-pube-lican lemmings are headed for the cliff. Rot In Hell Fascists!!

jacobnyc on February 25, 2009 at 10:20 PM

You might want to check the dictionary for the term fascist. It would more aptly be applied to the current administration whose trying to take over every aspect of business and industry. But hey, since you’re here and spouting off your liberal hate speech, how about you just go ahead and die of some painful hideous disease. Then you can join us in hell.

hawkdriver on March 1, 2009 at 7:55 PM

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