Quote of the day
posted at 10:35 pm on February 25, 2009 by Allahpundit
“Jindal’s résumé, intellectual confidence and command of policy make him the anti-Palin. Fairly or unfairly, media and intellectual elites (including some conservative elites) regard Gov. Sarah Palin as an inhabitant of another cultural planet. Jindal, while also religious and conservative, speaks the language of the knowledge class and will not be easily caricatured or dismissed. To journalists, policy experts and Rhodes scholars, Jindal is also “one of us.”
At this point in the election cycle, no Republican can be considered more than the flavor of the month. But this is an appealing one.”
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Wow. You utterly misinterpreted what I was inferring, and went off into Ronuland where Israelis are the ones hiding behind human shields, blowing up innocent people with jacket bombs, and calling for the destruction of the United States.
Enjoy it there. I hear gummi bears rain from the sky.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Too late. For someone of such high intellectual caliber he managed to step into the same media trap.
Skywise on February 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Sssshhhhhhh…don’t want anyone to catch on.
Alinsky on February 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM
t\The idiot messiah wants to destroy Israel. You should be pretty happy with the lunatic.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Please GOP let Gov. Palin give the response to the SOTU next year.
Thank you.
terryannonline on February 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Which policy is Obama an expert in? Besides lying, of course.
Jim Treacher on February 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
It will be soon…
;^)
profitsbeard on February 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Community Organization policy, of course. Silly.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Have you read any of his literature? I think he’s one of the only conservatives that can really turn this country around through his economic and foreign policy.
I agree that Palin, Jindal, etc are a tiny bit better than Obama, but do we really want just a little bit better or a lot better? The difference in the mainstream of both parties is as small as ever now.
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Minor point, MC: you were implying, he was inferring.
HTL on February 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
-1
FloatingRock on February 25, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Yeah, those newsletters were just great! /s
You put state in quotations. Do I conclude correctly you take the Hezballah view that Israel has no right to exist? If a peoples’ native-ness to the land doesn’t count, and UN’s vote doesn’t count, what makes a state legitmate?
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Sigh….. here we go again, divide and conquer. Why don’t we just do the media comparison of them and let them decide 2012 right now. Here, I’ll start:
Jindal: Smart, wonk, elitist, terrible coming out speech, too young, catholic, exorcism, creationism is schools
Palin: Stupid, uninformed, evangelical, backwoods hick, populist, great coming out speech, connects well with people, incredible fundraiser
Hmmmmm….Exit question…who would the media choose? Answer: neither one of these two and someone to allow The Messiah to have a landslide victory.
davek70 on February 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
if your guy is that good he should have run for president in ’08… oh, wait he did…and people recognized him for the bigot, fascist and an impostor he really is
runner on February 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
My apologizes to the thread, but Dean is such an easy Anti-Semite to get going. It’s just so amazing to hear what he believes in his heart. I was trying to get him to answer the question last time about why Hamas would rocket Israel within weeks after they gave them Gaza, a prosperous flower cultivation industry, millions in free capital to finance it and alienated so many of their own settlers in the process to do all of that.
Why after all of that is Israel the bad guys Dean? Is it just more convenient for you Paulites to pull in all interests to out own borders, or are you really just so hatful of Jews. As a Christian, you should fell like they are our base and sister faith and deserve our support and protection.
OH yeah the thread. Go Jidal!
hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 11:28 PM
The Left is clearing scared of Palin. They protest and rail against her to much to take seriously their dismissals of her. If she truly were not a threat, they would ignore her. Quite the opposite.
Both need seasoning. Palin got her baptism by fire in the campaign and Jindal last night. He is better off the cuff than she, and she is better at the type of scenario last night. Her VP debate close, into the cameras was scary good. She really can communicate.
Ronald Reagan had it both ways, and I guess I want that. Great communication skills, quick on his feet, and of course the unapologetic ability to articulate conservatism. Palin is far and away the better communicator.
Both will be formidable to watch, but by 2012 it will be a very chastened, thuggish country. If the madness spending continues, the markets will crash. Someone is going to have to be an adult and say ‘no’.
Starlink on February 25, 2009 at 11:29 PM
BS. You know Mr. Paul didn’t have a clue about the content of those newsletters
An analogy would be if a bunch of Mexicans went into Texas and Wanted to set up a separate country right in the middle of American land. They didn’t set up a government first.
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM
I want to know if anti-semites tend to libertarianism or whether libertarians then to anti-semitism.
I’m not calling Dean an anti-semite. He might just be extremely confused from classes with Wade Churchill.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Ouch. Very ouch.
Right. That’s why his name was at the top of them.
Your demise is now plotted. Beware.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Yep.
terryannonline on February 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
MY opinion, big time Jew hater. He can’t even bring himself to admit they have a right to exist in their UN sanctioned borders.
hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Unfortunately, this praise is about as sincere as liberals pretending to be 100% behind the war in Afghanistan. Or media pundits talking up McCain as a “good” Republican. That is to say, it’s not so much praise for the war in Afghanistan or John McCain as a way to take a backhanded swipe at Iraq or George W Bush.
Gergen gave it away when he called Jindal, “the anti-Palin.” All the praise is just to pour a little extra contempt on Palin by saying, “See! This is who you should be voting for!”
I’m not dumping on Jindal, who may well be our candidate in 2012 or 2016. (Considering his age, maybe even 2020 or 2028). In fact, I probably think more of Jindal than Gergen does. But I strongly suspect all his praise for Jindal would evaporate the moment there was a Democrat in the race. IOW, as soon as the actual race begins.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on February 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
A couple of people used homemade rockets. It was nothing.
The fiscally conservative position, the position most in line with Austrian economic theory, is that we should have a limited national defense that can secure our borders and protect our country. Imperialism costs money, and is one of the reasons we have been running up huge deficits.
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Really? Pretty much none of the “states” of the middle east were established until the 20th century – some after the fall of the Ottomans and the others after WWII. I guess you don’t buy any of them, either. So, what’s the difference?
Israel is still the only country there with a real government, by Western standards – unless you’re into that totalitarian thing. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 11:36 PM
To journalists there’s really no difference between Palin and Jindal. Neither will ever be “one of us” to them unless they somehow morph into die hard liberals.
Rip Ford on February 25, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Even if he didn’t (which I think is implausible seeing the close personal connection between the supposed author and himself) he allowed racist diatribes to go out under his name in order to expand his political base. He used racism for political gain. Whether he believes it or not, which is likely considering his hypocrisy on Israel, he chose to make that bed. He has to sleep in it.
That analogy doesn’t work. Palestine was a British protectorate, not a state like Texas. If you are outraged about British colonialism, then we must negate all states that came out of WWI and WWII from British colonies or protectorates. Of course, no one argues about any of them except Israel. Why is that, I wonder.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:36 PM
Ahhh, Ronuland. The only place that can call it self crazier than both Huckster City and Messiah Village.
I don’t think the two are related outside of the fact that some anti-semities use a perverted interpretation of the libertarianism to justify their bigotry.
malan89 on February 25, 2009 at 11:36 PM
AP and all the other “cool and cynical” types have gone from tedious to damaging. This isn’t a PC vs Mac argument where “FANBOY!!” is a killing blow. This is the future of our Nation and they treat it like a freaking World of Warcraft smack-talk challenge.
Yeah AP, I know I can find another blog if it bothers me so much but I think the future of this Country should not be handled by putting you on /ignore.
TBinSTL on February 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM
I respect your opinion but it’s just mainline Republican Party propaganda.
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Not even close. Domestic entitlements account for all of the deficits and then some.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Asinine. If your family is murdered, does it matter if the killer used poison, a gun, or just ran them over with a truck. The weapon is irrelevant.
An extremely credible argument (made by PM Barnett, I believe) is that force projection has thwarted wars among major powers. That means net savings of $ and lives.
And my questions @ 11:24 are still waiting for you.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Sweet mother of god, we’ve struck denial! It’s a gusher!
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
All it takes is 700 missles at your country and you get tax cuts. Why Not Here?
WashJeff on February 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Wow.
malan89 on February 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
So anti-semites to libertarianism.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Uh oh. I sense a disturbance in the force. Rush Limbaugh vs Joe the Plumber…
SnarkVader on February 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Addendum, fire 700 rockets at The Dean’s house (he won’t care cause they are home made rockets), and you get tax cuts.
WashJeff on February 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM
A perfect metaphor for politics.
malan89 on February 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM
I wonder what his opinion would be if we didn’t support Israel, and they were forced to use more force instead of being aided by American diplomacy.
I think “Never Again” is more then “just words”.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Oh, c’mon. I’m not that bored.
Randy
williars on February 25, 2009 at 11:44 PM
No, an analogy would be if a bunch of conservative Texans, tired of being the victims of Obomunism, bought up a bunch of land and peacefully started their own government in a small region of Texas. Conservatives from other areas of the country escaped there as well, but their Obamunist neighbors weren’t happy and tried to wipe them off the map—but lost because they’re pussies.
Idiot.
FloatingRock on February 25, 2009 at 11:45 PM
But you don’t use a disproportionate response of using two divisions of your military to fight against one common murderer.
Money and lives weren’t saved by the U.S.’s Iraq adventure, or Israel’s attacks on a very poor Gaza.
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:45 PM
I don’t know what you are a dean of but it’s not in anything with even one foot in reality.
MB4 on February 25, 2009 at 11:46 PM
A neighbor randomly fires a gun at your house whenever the mood strikes him. Doesn’t aim, doesn’t even look a lot of the time, just points the gun and pulls the trigger. Can you honestly claim you’d tell the police, “Oh sure, John’s put a couple hundred rounds into the house but so far he’s only winged Grandma and a couple of little Timmy’s friends. It’s nothing. Don’t worry about it.”
Rip Ford on February 25, 2009 at 11:46 PM
These are some awesome homemade rockets made by those rascally jokesters.
And don’t even try to poo-poo the site. There isn’t a more accurate site than Global Security save the State Departments own info.
hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 11:46 PM
if the mexicans are arabs in your ‘analogy’, they you are correct; after all, arabs, who are form Arabia, stole the land from the jews
runner on February 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Let me put this as politely as possible:
“speaks the language of the knowledge class”
WTF?
Guess Michael Gerson considers himself part of this “knowledge class.” Does that require a particular IQ, or a particular alma mater, or just a particular level of arrogance? Is Ken Jennings a member of the “knowledge class?” Or is it more like David Brooks? Or the dead Carl Sagan?
notropis on February 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Sure, if it’s convenient. But now I’m starting to think you may have made a good point with the other option. Anti-semites use seemingly well intentioned libertarianism to draw in new believers, using tactics similar to The Dean’s original posts. Hiding using a well-planned perversion of ideology to drop subtle hints like “My position is we shouldn’t favor either side” when the real point is “I believe in the destruction of the state of original and, if viable, the eventual elimination of the Jewish people”. So maybe it could also be libertarianism (albeit a perverted version) to anti-semitism. But it certainly started with anti-semitism to libertarianism.
malan89 on February 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Back to the general point – Do. Not. Let. Pundits. Choose. Our. Presidents. For. Us.
We saw what happened in November…
familiar on February 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
NOw that’s just flat out wrong…it’s the mandated growth in government…
Can’t let you get away with that…
jerrytbg on February 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
BTW Dean, have you ever been on the receiving end of a mortar attack? It can really scare the children. And although you’ve admitted to me personally that you do indeed beat your own children, don’t you think the Israelis have the right to protect theirs?
hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Sums it up.
malan89 on February 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM
The Gazaians may be very brain poor but they are not very rocket or AK-47 or suicide belt poor. Naturally when you spend so much of your money on such acutraments you don’t have as much left over for other things as most folks.
MB4 on February 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM
This assessment is based on what?
Iraq sits on the most strategically significant area of the world. When Saddam Hussein intentionally dumped 40,000,000 barrels of oil into the gulf and lit just about every single oil well in Kuwait on fire, all while he was being allowed to retreat in one of the most humiliating military defeats in all of recorded history, it was clear to anyone with a brain that he could not remain in control of an area that strategically sensitive. For that reason alone, Iraq had to be taken down. There are a multitude of other important reasons that we had to go in, but this is the easiest and most direct reason and even you should be able to comprehend it.
progressoverpeace on February 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Come on, don’t fall back on the “poor Israel” card. They have been rapidly expanding their settlements into Gaza and West Bank. How would you react if someone just up and took your home?
The Dean on February 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM
That’s unknowable. I doubt the Kurds agree with you. But with respect to US lives, perhaps you are right. But it’s unknowable.
Gaza’s poorness is their own fault. They’ve been set up nicely. Heck, the big O is going to throw them another 900 large, I think is the number. If Gaza doesn’t want to be in such bad straights, maybe the Israels should move back in, if they can’t govern themselves.
Of course, that’ll be translated into more rockets.
Disproportionate response is a farcical argument. War is about victory. If one side doesn’t overwhelm the other, then the sides are mired in continued warfare. It really is a stupid argument. The quicker the war, the less lives lost. Hit hard, hit strong, break the will of the enemy.
You will note, of course, you used the word response. They respond to acts of war. Respond, not instigate by your own acknowledgment.
I also note, you skip all the questions.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Yeah, don’t believe for a second I believe that The Dean or any of his Paulites represent Libertarians. I’ve never heard of a Libertarian that beat his children or accused their military of being terrorists for beating their captives.
hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Go away.
MadisonConservative on February 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM
I think your train of thought there has merit.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM
“They have been rapidly expanding their settlements into Gaza and West Bank”
Well, they totally abandoned Gaza — maybe you missed that — and although there have been a few new settlements in the West Bank, (which I admit doesn’t help matters much) it couldn’t possibly be considered “rapidly expanding” if it’s slower this decade than any of the previous three.
notropis on February 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
He works for the dnc…
jerrytbg on February 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
In Dean’s world everything is propaganda. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it isn’t. And contrary-wise; what it is, it isn’t, and what it isn’t, it is. You see?
Cheshire Cat on February 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
They moved entirely out of Gaza. Entirely.
And they have offered to move out almost completely (97-98%) of the West Bank before, but that’s not enough! They want Jerusalem too.
For many Palestinians the objective is not a two-state solution, the object is to push the Jews into the sea. They had a state in their hands already.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
gaza and west bank are jewish lands, fool. arabs are occupiers
runner on February 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Heh. Well, the absence of answers certainly indicates his assertions are indefensible.
Spirit of 1776 on February 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM
So when George Jefferson moved in next to the Bunker’s Archie had every right to lob rockets into his livingroom?
thomasaur on February 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Oh good Lord. You can not be serious.
carbon_footprint on February 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM
No, you said that it was just “A couple of homemade rockets”. GS says its sophisticated rockets and mortars. Why did you lie?
I’ll answer yours. No, I would not want three Arab nations to try to kick me out of my home after the UN sanctioned my borders and told us all to get along. I would hate it if after settling into my territory I built up what no body else seemed to be able to cultivate and make it a prosperous state to only have some loser who only knows hate and war pick a fight with me. I’d feel mightily compelled to kick their stupid jihadi asses into the desert on one side and the Suez Canal on the other. I might just keep Gaza and the Golan Heights after I kicked said asses as security. Does that answer your question?
hawkdriver on February 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM
They can have Gaza, but the arabs have to leave the West Bank. And, if they can’t act like civilized humans in Gaza, then they have to be flushed into Sinai, where the Egyptians can deal with them.
progressoverpeace on February 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM
Ah, you’re one of those.
Jim Treacher on February 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM
The great dream of Islam will come true. Sheik Mohamed al-Dean and all Muslims dream to see flags that read: “There is no god but Allah” fluttering in the wind on the Temple Mount, Haram al-Sharif and and over Hotair, Allah willing.
Aleph on February 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I think he ran after being caught being a hypocrite of the nth order.
MadisonConservative on February 26, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Spirit,
yea…they just throw a bunch of crap out there…to see what goes unchallenged then drum it…but don’t dare ask a question and expect to get an answer…
jerrytbg on February 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM
With your logic, that could be almost any university in America;)
Laura in Maryland on February 26, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Pawlenty, Jindal & Romney is not a law firm. It is a partnership fostered in wonk land. Collectively, they have the personality of a pet rock.
Throw the wonks out on the stage with Palin. The best man will be a woman.
Captain America on February 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Maybe, but he might just be pouring through some of Ron Paul’s newsletters looking for some more ammunition.
The Dean, they’re all blanks.
FloatingRock on February 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
there is time for everything….
runner on February 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
I’d never talked with him before. Now I know not to take anything he says seriously. If he won’t defend his defining beliefs, which they are as he advocates moving from the current GOP crop, then no opinion of his is worthy of the time to read it.
Spirit of 1776 on February 26, 2009 at 12:08 AM
“the arabs have to leave the West Bank.”
Wow. The most radical Zionists that I know don’t say that. That’s rough. Luckily even Bibi Netanyahu doesn’t hold that extreme a position. I’ll trust his judgement. Maybe I’m a patsy and he’s a bleeding heart, but I somehow doubt it.
notropis on February 26, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Jindal:
Great at interviews, not so good at speeches.
Palin:
Great at speeches, not so good at interviews.
jgapinoy on February 26, 2009 at 12:08 AM
That seams like a ticket made in heaven…
jerrytbg on February 26, 2009 at 12:10 AM
seems
jerrytbg on February 26, 2009 at 12:10 AM
I’d think we could support them all for right now. The primaries will come in due time.
hawkdriver on February 26, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Sorta reminds me of that response the other kids on the bus platform show when the short bus kids are walking down in their little line. Some mockery, but, at the same time, recognition that something that pathetic really shouldn’t be all that mocked.
malan89 on February 26, 2009 at 12:14 AM
A lot of people I know in Louisiana who like Jindal also like Palin. Not sure where Gerson gets his intel, though I have a good idea.
Christien on February 26, 2009 at 12:15 AM
InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on February 26, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Exactly. And pushing your candidate of choice too early will simply make them peak too early.
malan89 on February 26, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Honestly if that was Jindahl at his worst…it was pretty good. I never bothered to listen to him before… no he wasn’t a rock star like Palin. (I like her fine) But I liked him. I think the hard working immigrant stereotype is appealing. I like thoughtful conservatism maybe a little better than gut instinct conservatism.
I got a true feeling that he has awe for America… so do I.
Sarah is great but maybe a bit overbearing. I guess I like subtle and understated.
petunia on February 26, 2009 at 12:16 AM
They don’t say it, but from a security standpoint, there’s no alternative. I’m an advocate for what I call “chetzi-transfer”. Bibi tried to finesse his way around this by saying that the Pals could never get air rights over the West Bank, but that’s totally unworkable, as the minute they get autonomy the UN will grant them full status and all “rights”. From that point on, the end of Israel would just be a matter of time.
progressoverpeace on February 26, 2009 at 12:18 AM
Hawk,
too soon to think about it all… just yet…
Get your bore sighter yet…;)
btw…I backed off cause i was burnt out and wasn’t getting anything done…but I do still lurk often…got to get to sleep soon… early charter…
jerrytbg on February 26, 2009 at 12:18 AM
My alternative QOTD (no one famous, but a QOTD, anyway – from LiveScience):
I like the inclusion of “might”.
progressoverpeace on February 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM
“I like thoughtful conservatism maybe a little better than gut instinct conservatism.”
I’d take either or both.
Heck, I contributed to, and campaigned for, John McCain. Just imagine how thrilled I’d be to see somebody like Jindal or Palin in the White House, or Eric Cantor (he’s a Jew, you know….) or Duncan Hunter, or even Tim Pawlenty.
notropis on February 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Palin pisses liberals off because they know she could take all of them in a fight. Every single one, even the males.
Metro on February 26, 2009 at 12:22 AM
DON’T DRINK THAT FLAVORED WATER…;)
jerrytbg on February 26, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Wait what decade is this, again? Carter in the Whitehouse and now Archie back on TV. What time machine did I step into.
I want Bush back…and I’m not that big a Bushie believe me… It’s just since the Dems took congress in 06 everything has fallen to pieces!
Heck I might even take the Clintons over the nightmare that Reid, Pelosi and Obama have wrought!
petunia on February 26, 2009 at 12:22 AM
“Bibi tried to finesse his way around this…. but that’s totally unworkable”
Glad you know better than Bibi. Next time, you should run for Prime Minister.
notropis on February 26, 2009 at 12:24 AM
I thought you were supposed to send me yours to try! :-)
I’m actually considering a .223 and 30.06 bore laser like these. 30.06 Size
It would work in my Garand and I just bought a Remington Model 770 in the 30.06 cal so it would work in both. Then one for the .223. It just seems like hanging out the end of the barrel wouldn’t be as accurate. No?
hawkdriver on February 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Wow you guys are on a first name basis with the Israeli PM?
petunia on February 26, 2009 at 12:26 AM
Everyone’s on a first name basis with Bibi. :)
progressoverpeace on February 26, 2009 at 12:28 AM
“Wow you guys are on a first name basis with the Israeli PM?”
Yeah, me and Bibi go way back. Used to down Scotch and Sodas with Hank (Kissinger) and bet on the Redskins football games. Once we found out that Dicky (Nixon) was calling the plays, we always went “under.”
You have no idea how special the people are who post at HotAir.
notropis on February 26, 2009 at 12:31 AM
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