Comments on: Hitchens: Does the left realize Obama’s committing us to endless war in Afghanistan?

By: Right as Rain

Right as Rain — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:21:39 +0000

Obama and the democrats are going for broke. They learned the lessons of ’94 and 2000 and that was -”Don’t trust the American people with the electorate”.
They are positioning themselves to never lose another election, no matter how they have to lie, cheat or steal to do it.

Conversely, they have no fear of upsetting the base. Who are they going to vote for instead- Republicans?

By: katiejane

katiejane — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:26:03 +0000

Bingo! I am sick to death of him saying he inherited this, he inherited that. He wanted the job so now STFU about what problems he got.

becki51758 on February 26, 2009 at 8:12 AM

Good point. If he’d actually spent more time doing his job as a Senator perhaps he’d realized what the situation was. But he pandered and smoozed to get the job of POTUS so it’s now time to fulfill all those empty promises instead of whining about how tough things are.

By: MechEng5by5

MechEng5by5 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:22:47 +0000

Hitchens reminds me of the reporter-turned-head zombie Matthias in the movie “The Omega Man“.
I can’t really say why, but he just does…

By: lexhamfox

lexhamfox — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:42:15 +0000

If support starts to wane for the effort in Afghanistan it is largely because the effort there is failing. Coming up with a successful strategy is the remedy. Military commanders have suggested that the tactics employed in Iraq won’t fit the situation in Afghanistan.

hawksruleva on February 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM

The Soviets didn’t hold back in Afghanistan. They did seriously attempt to kill everything and that backfired. What exactly are you suggesting as being necessary?

By: hawksruleva

hawksruleva — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:27:23 +0000

Revisionist history on the march. They start this segment with an Obama clip where he says “there is not now, nor has there ever been, a military solution in Iraq.”

Then why did pouring in all of those extra troops, and equipping them with a more effective strategy, reduce the number of Al Queda in the country?

There’s just as certainly a military solution for Afghanistan, if we’re willing to do what is necessary.

By: Reaps

Reaps — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:54:30 +0000

searcher484 on February 25, 2009 at 8:49 PM

I can’t possibly be the only one getting the sh:)ts with this.

By: becki51758

becki51758 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:12:20 +0000

AZCoyote on February 26, 2009 at 6:43 AM

Bingo! I am sick to death of him saying he inherited this, he inherited that. He wanted the job so now STFU about what problems he got.

Did we hear Pres Bush moan and groan about what he inherited from Clinton? For that matter…any other president?

By: Alden Pyle

Alden Pyle — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:54:33 +0000

Fear not, word travels slow in 3rd world cesspools; as soon as the islamo-kooks find out Obama is president this will all change.

They’ll trade in their Ak 47s for tamborines and we’ll all be holding hands singing Michael Row the Boat Ashore while Kim Jong Ill strums the guitar.

By: kelley in virginia

kelley in virginia — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:53:56 +0000

well, if bambi doesn’t give us good supply lines & support, then he will effectively murder our troops in afghanistan. then he’ll leave there, making it all for naught.

By: malkinmania

malkinmania — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:43:22 +0000

The left is pretending that keeping over 30,000 troops in Afghan is a ho-hum situation, when it purely contradicts the core crux of what they campaigned on.

By: malkinmania

malkinmania — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:41:49 +0000

Am I the only ONE who heard the “HA-HA-HA” in the background at around 2:35 in the clip after Hitch says “we have to stay in swatting distance of Al Qaeda”…

That seems so obvious I’m surprised no one has mentioned it yet.

SillyRyno on February 26, 2009 at 1:24 AM

I picked up on that..sounds more like blah blah blah

By: JiangxiDad

JiangxiDad — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:16:59 +0000

The point he is making is that under this President, under this Party, white is black, black is white, and all the moral certitude and passion the demonstrated loudly and vividly as the Left over the past eight years tried to bring down a government was without conviction…a sham…and they are proving it today by their silence.

I voted for Barack to get us OUT OF THE WAR. Why do we have troops in Afghanistan and Pakistan? Why is Barack killing innocent brown men, women, children, and so-called terrorists?

BARACK, STOP THE WAR NOW! QUAGMIRE!! QUAGMIRE!!

By: AZCoyote

AZCoyote — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:43:26 +0000

Most people realize Obama inherited this war

ckoeber on February 25, 2009 at 9:34 PM

What utter B.S.

Obama no more “inherited” the Afghan war than he “inherited” federal budget deficits. Obama has been in the U.S. Senate voting for those very same inflated budgets of the past that he now bitches about. He even did everything he could to made them more inflated with his nearly $1 billion in earmark requests, and his sponsoring of idiotic additional spending such as the nearly $1 Trillion dollar giveaway to the United Nations known as the Global Poverty Act.

Obama supported the invasion of Afghanistan from the beginning, and has repeatedly said, both as Senator and as presidential candidate, that Afghanistan is the “real” war that we should be devoting more resources to winning. It is ludicrous for you to suggest that Afghanistan is something that was dumped on Obama, rather than a situation that he himself helped create — just as he helped create our current financial disasters (or have you also forgotten that Obama was one of those race-baiting ACORN lawyers, suing banks to force them to make more sub-prime loans to unqualified minority lenders?).

By: jgapinoy

jgapinoy — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:13:35 +0000

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 26, 2009 at 2:21 AM

Hey, aren’t you the governor of Illinois or something?

By: jgapinoy

jgapinoy — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:09:39 +0000

If only Nixon wasn’t a crook & the elder Bush didn’t raise taxes.
Then Iran would be our ally & Bin Laden would be in prison.

By: Dr. ZhivBlago

Dr. ZhivBlago — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:21:35 +0000

Gee, I take that to mean that Al-Qaeda and the Taliban really don’t want to fight anymore and Evil America is perpetuating this conflict on its own?

The Communists shrieked loud and hard about the Iraq invasion as being a move to get oil and make profits for Bush and Co.

How many oil fields are there in Afghanistan? Are there 550 metric tons of yellow cake uranium in Afghanistan?

Or is it simply the place where a large concentration of America’s enemies are and trying to take over? Wasn’t that the point all along?

Dumb to have invaded France on D-Day…the Nazis were from Germany…why invade France?

Liberal logic. Brilliant!

By: SillyRyno

SillyRyno — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:24:15 +0000

Am I the only ONE who heard the “HA-HA-HA” in the background at around 2:35 in the clip after Hitch says “we have to stay in swatting distance of Al Qaeda”…

That seems so obvious I’m surprised no one has mentioned it yet.

By: HotWeaver

HotWeaver — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:02:34 +0000

Does the left remember South Vietnam? One country next to another hostile country, with the U.S. military restricted by where it was allowed to fight the war? And global enemies feeding resources to the oppressive attackers?

By: 18-1

18-1 — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:56:28 +0000

The One can do whatever he wants and the left wont care. As long as it’s not a republican they do not care.

Brat4life on February 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Hey, I remember when the left demanded Clinton’s impeachment for abuse of office as they were more concerned about principle then raw political power.

Oh, actually no, now that I think of it they fought tooth and nail to see the Sexual Harasser in Chief stayed in office.

By: Brat4life

Brat4life — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:59:53 +0000

The One can do whatever he wants and the left wont care. As long as it’s not a republican they do not care.

By: pilamaye

pilamaye — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:51:44 +0000

Why exactly should I give a flying flaming rat’s patootie in space what Hitchens says about anything? The man is an idiot is desperate need of a village.

By: a capella

a capella — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:44:15 +0000

Most people realize Obama inherited this war and as such will give him leeway. You can start talking about Afghanistan in six months.

At that time most people will then give weight to any criticism.

Right now people are just seeing these arguments as noise.

ckoeber on February 25, 2009 at 9:34

Why should we wait? He talked about it continually during his campaign. As I recollect, he wanted the job pretty badly.

By: apacalyps

apacalyps — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:38:30 +0000

At first, I was for going into Iraq, but we need to get OUT of Iraq and Afghanistan as soon as possible. When it comes to these Muslim nations, unless you go in and completely take over and change the culture, you know convert them to Christianity or something, uh, you will NEVER have success. Why do I say that? Because they cannot integrate with the West. Islam sees the West as "God's Enemy." The Quran says not to take Jews and Christians (infidels) as friends, and that would be anybody who is NOT a Muslim. If we conducted the Second World War the same way the Iraq War has been fought we would all be speaking German right now. You don't make rich a nation of people that will use that wealth to destroy you. When you keep throwing people and money into Muslim nations that HATE YOU and want to KILL YOU time and time and time again, and you expect different results, normally that's referred to as being insane.

By: Doctor Zero

Doctor Zero — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:37:28 +0000

Just talked to a friend of mine who is a Senior Enlisted guy in the Pentagon…

They’ve been shut up.

Its been made abundantly clear to them that public bitching will be prosecuted under the UCMJ as Conduct Unbecoming… and prejudicial to good order…

He even had to sign a non disclosure agreement because has some access to Budget docs…. and the administration wants to “control the messege”…

Romeo13 on February 25, 2009 at 10:56 PM

Never fear! I’m sure the New York Times will be happy to take his phone calls, and publish any amount of classified information he would care to provide. Their ombudsman has written eloquently of how they have a sacred responsibility to do so, no matter who sits in the White House.

Of course, the way things are going with the Times financially, he’ll probably won’t be able to call collect.

By: progressoverpeace

progressoverpeace — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:30:11 +0000

I wonder what excuse he will make to keep power when his time is up.

No excuses. Destroying the dollar will make it “necessary”. Of course, he and his buddies don’t understand that no one can predict what will happen after the dollar goes. No one.

This is very very very very scary.

petunia on February 25, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Yep.