David Brooks: Jindal’s speech was an insane nihilist disaster

posted at 1:16 pm on February 25, 2009 by Allahpundit

Another withering critique of last night’s fizzle, but unlike the rest of the punditocracy, it’s not the delivery he’s objecting to. There’s a serious question raised here that’ll soon be obscured by the mountain of sneering comments about RINOs below: How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution? This is what I was getting at in writing about how the public wants to see action for action’s sake, even if they’re skeptical that it’ll work. Lowry’s on target about how Obama’s adapting — by trying to redefine the Great Society agenda as mere centrist “pragmatism” to make it palatable to Americans who dislike big government in theory but not so much in practice. Republicans can either stick to laissez faire and wait for the inevitable liberal overreach to push the country back to the right or, per Brooks (and Bill Kristol) they can start incorporating government solutions into their own platform. The danger of taking the first approach isn’t that we might have to wait a few years, it’s that if Obama succeeds in redefining the center, we might have to wait decades. In that sense, it’s like the amnesty debate: The politically useful thing to do is to pander to Hispanics by supporting it, the principled thing to do is to oppose it and enforce the law. Which course is correct if the latter means you’re out of power for ages and amnesty gets pushed through anyway?

Part of the problem is that the GOP’s done an abysmal job of marketing its alternatives to the stimulus. Dave Weigel compared it yesterday to McCain’s campaign strategy, aimed at winning the news cycle with stunts and memorable soundbites but badly losing the big-picture debate. It often does feel like they have no plan of their own — nihilism, as Brooks puts it — and there’s a reason for that:

During the stimulus debate, the strategist argued, Republicans had an actual alternative but were unable to direct much attention to it — in part because they were focusing so much of their rhetoric on the massive and unnecessary spending in the bill. The debate became a question of an up-or-down decision on the Obama/Democratic plan — not a choice between the Obama/Democratic plan and a Republican plan. “The coverage of the stimulus bill focused on the difference between the House and Senate versions,” the strategist told me, “which were basically two sides of the same coin.” The Republican role was limited to a) saying no to the Obama/Democratic bill, and b) having three moderates in the Senate approve of the bill as long as it offered a little less than what Democrats proposed. The idea that Republicans, mostly in the House, had an actual full-scale alternative, was lost. “On the Sunday talk shows, right after it passed, find me one person who mentioned the Republican alternative,” the strategist said.

So now Republicans want to try something new. They point to last year’s debate over energy, in which the GOP got the upper hand on the issue of drilling — so much so that majority Democrats were forced to retreat from their position. That, the strategist says, was the kind of clearly-articulated policy alternative that Republicans will be seeking to put forward today.

Better get cracking. That 61/26 gap leaves The One with an awful lot of daylight to run in.

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allah, you care what the democrat douchebag david brooks thinks?

ousoonerfan15 on February 25, 2009 at 1:18 PM

allah, we all know here at HotAir that all the solutions are simple and unabashedly conservative. we wait with laissez-faire until the liberals overreach. we all know, quite simply and with certainty, that government, the kind that gets us to the moon and defeats communism and builds interstate highways and invents suburban middle classes is ALWAYS a problem. a problem that will be met by a starve the beast strategy until theres nothing left but corporate interests. which ALWAYS align with the best interests of american citizens…ALWAYS.

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Jindal was bad last night but Brooks is a douche every single day of the year.

myrenovations on February 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

When Republicans stop apologizing for the past 8 years, they’ll move on.

They aren’t ready to stop apologizing. Gotta let ‘em wallow for a while.

lorien1973 on February 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

Why is it OK for men to use the word “douchbag”, but such a crime to use the phrase “blue scrotum”?

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

worst speech in the history of mankind.

Jindal needs to be banned from giving speaches. This was horrible

money2 on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Sounds like Brooks is saying that Republicans should just embrace socialism because to stand for fiscal responsibility is a disaster for the Republican party. At this point, the Republicans may never recover, but if they embrace socialism it will be even worse!

Christian Conservative on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Who’s David Brooks?

forest on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Stop with using that word. It is so disrepectful to women. You dumb blue scrotums.

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Rush is hammering Brooks right now… And he CRUSHES this turd Brooks and all the other so-called Conservatives…

Liars stick together, Brooks and his kind of faux Republican are killing America along with The Messiah and his cult of wasted lives…

Brooks is a loser…

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Was Allah frightened by a conservative as a child?

snaggletoothie on February 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Who’s David Brooks?

forest on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/743995.html

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

David Brooks is a douche, no question.

But the Republicans have done an AWFUL, ATROCIOUS, HEINOUS job of promoting their alternative. The American people don’t respond well to “lower taxes and put more money in your pocket” when it is the exact same solution the Republicans offer to every problem, and it’s never explained properly. It sounds like a damn coucou clock.

I am not saying that the Republican alternative plan made sense. In fact, it did. Porkulus is Porkulus precisely because Obama figured out the feds can’t spend $800 billion in 2 years. Thus, Obama simply pays the $800 billion to intermediaries (states and local governments, NGOs, universities, etc.) who then spend the money later on. But Obama gets to say “I spent $800 billion this year to stimulate the economy,” even though no money got spent.

Mark my words, fellow Republicans. If the Democrats pass socialist healthcare, or Card Check, or nationalize the banks, or nationalize anything else, it will be a game-changer that will keep our party and our principles out of power for DECADES, if not permanently. We must organize and fight NOW, and I hope someone out there can step up and lead.

Outlander on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Rush is kicking Brooks’ butt from end of the room to the other right now.

BigD on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

The GOP House stand against the stimulus bill was a good start. But they needed to sell it better through a media that doesn’t want them to be heard.

During the course of the first round of stimulus spending we need the conservative governors to not only run their states but also get out the message of how the stimulus is not working for their states.

The House GOP needs to have an alternative to every single piece of Democrat legislation and it should be a small government/conservative solution. They need to shout it from the rooftops.

myrenovations on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Introducing David Brooks, Labradoodle, Obama’s hypoallergenic pet.

Angry Dumbo on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

There’s a serious question raised here that’ll soon be obscured by the mountain of sneering comments about RINOs below: How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution? This is what I was getting at in writing about how the public wants to see action for action’s sake, even if they’re skeptical that it’ll work

The sheeple be damned. What’s the point with reasoning with them?

Part of the problem is that the GOP’s done an abysmal job of marketing its alternatives to the stimulus.

Yeah, they rely on the people meeting them half-way. Always overestimating people.

JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Its not news that Brooks is a big government guy. That is his schtick, and Frum’s. Nevermind, of course, that Bush was the quintessential Big Gov’t Republican and played a big role in our current debacle. *And* the voters hated it.

Can we please stop quoting Brooks on what the GOP should do? People who want that can hit Frum’s The Permanent Minority website. Or any of the Socialists websites.

james23 on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Wags his tail for wagyu. : ))

Angry Dumbo on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Who’s David Brooks?

forest on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/743995.html

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:23 PM

He looks like a very colorful guy.

forest on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

I think Brooks needs to open up his philosophy books, its Obama whose an actual Nihilist, the entire Liberal Establishment for that matter

jp on February 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Let me get this straight.

Since the first bailout, the stock market has lost over 2500 points.

We are not at DOW levels of 1997.

Every time Obama has spoken about the economy, the dow takes a 100+ dive. This includes last night, you can see right now the dow is diving.

We’ve increased our debt by trillions. We’ve spent more on these stimulus packages than the entire Iraq War. Yet the economy continues to worsen.

Jindal proclaims that government is the prioblem, not the people.

AND SOMEHOW YOU DISAGREE WITH JINDAL?

When is America going to wake up and realize that beaurocrats can not save us. And the idea of “doing something for something’s sake” is a miserable proposition. It’s like throwing a 70 yard hail mary pass at the end of a football game when you’re down by 9 points anyway. Even if you do get the TD, you still need another score.

Vincenzo on February 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM

I am pretty suer the path laid out by Obama from nationalising banks, schools, healthcare, energy markets is a triumph of selflessness.

promachus on February 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Mr. Brooks, I know Conservatives. They are my friends of mine. Mr. Brooks, you are NO Conservative.

Sir, you need to just go back the NY SLIMES and shut up!

http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/

franklinslocke on February 25, 2009 at 1:25 PM

David Brooks and Frum and others ARE NOT Conservatives!

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Let’s see. Blanco’s handling of Katrina versus Jindal’s handling of Gustav. Maybe there’s some adapting in there, and some action for action’s sake, too.

Christien on February 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM

He looks like a very colorful guy.

forest on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Frustrated, too.

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM

But since a nobody, liberal-fellating coward like David Brooks made the comment, who cares?

AubieJon on February 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM

And one more thing, all these trillions are being spent to bailout:

2% of the homes in foreclosure.
large banks who should be in bankruptcy.

so again, what did Jindal say that was wrong?

Vincenzo on February 25, 2009 at 1:26 PM

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

holy strawman, batman.

lorien1973 on February 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

If Brooks had his way we would have a party of Schwarzeneggers.

Mark1971 on February 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

worst speech in the history of mankind.

Jindal needs to be banned from giving speaches. This was horrible

money2 on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Ohhh, you’re totes right. It’s totally worse than the “itbach al-Yahud” speeces given by the Arab leaders, worse than the speeches Ahmadinejad gave at the UN and columbia University, worse than the speeches of Hitler and his ilk when they spoke of the final solution to the Jewish question, and the unhinged crap that flowed from Arafat.

Jindal’s slightly boring response to the most boring campaign speech by Obama I’ve ever heard is the worstest speech in the history of speeches.

I’d finish my thought, but well, I’m pretty sure even you know how this is going to end.

mjk on February 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

David Brooks is being verbally taken apart one piece at a time by El Rushbo even as we speak at this very moment.

pilamaye on February 25, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Good lord, HA has Brooks, Parker and Gerson posted today. Its like the Daily RINOS around here. I guess we can expect posts from Noonan, Christo Buckley and Frum later today.

james23 on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

Get back on the education bandwagon and show the people that govt is almost never the solution.

Of course Allah and the other RINO’s will tell us that in order to be better liked, we just have to go with the flow.

MarkTheGreat on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

money2 on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

I didn’t even watch it and I felt a million babies crying afterwards.

Can everyone be a little less dramatic, maybe?

lorien1973 on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Where the FUCK IS THE FUCKING LINK TO THE FUCKING DAVID BROOKS ARTICLE???? Allahpundit, you are a fucking monkey.

indythinker on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Wags his tail for wagyu. : ))

Angry Dumbo on February 25, 2009 at 1:24 PM

No kidding. But once he’s bought, he stays bought. You gotta give him that.

Mr. D on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

There’s a serious question raised here that’ll soon be obscured by the mountain of sneering comments about RINOs below: How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

You, just like Brooks, readily and uncritically buy into the liberal premise of that argument, and you do so out of a position of fear. Any chance you have of getting it right it destroyed then and there.

thirteen28 on February 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

There’s a serious question raised here that’ll soon be obscured by the mountain of sneering comments about RINOs below: How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

By making the solution about cutting fat, prioritizing, and making government more efficient instead of bigger. I think that’s what Jindal was getting at but needs to be more clear. I liked Jindals phrasing of “Universal access to affordable healthcare”, for instance. Brooks is right though, the GOP needs to offer solutions. Conservative solutions.

Dash on February 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Tax cuts ARE action.

jimmy the notable on February 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Those of you who are worried about being in the minorty, stop worrying. There is no need to adopt plans of liberals. We got that with 8 years of Bush domestic policy, and look how that went.

I don’t care what polls say, everyone I speak to thinks the government is screwing up. They are screwing up. And they are screwing up with your money.

Vincenzo on February 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

Republicans can either stick to laissez faire and wait for the inevitable liberal overreach to push the country back to the right or, per Brooks (and Bill Kristol) they can start incorporating government solutions into their own platform.

Honest to God, Allahpundit, we love ya and all but please go write for David Frum at “The New Majority” or something. This is right out his little handbook.

BigD on February 25, 2009 at 1:29 PM

Republicans just do not attack. They are scared of being branded racist or whatever they fear the newscycle versus attacking it. That and that the truth about the future of
Medicare and babyboomers is so ugly no one wants to touch it. It is the third rail.

Theworldisnotenough on February 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM

allah, you care what the democrat douchebag david brooks thinks?

ousoonerfan15 on February 25, 2009 at 1:18 PM

That’s ad hominem. It doesn’t matter whether David Brooks is a “douchebag.” All that matters is whether the man has a point: Do conservatives have anything important or useful to say about the big picture?

Alas, as your own comment demonstrates, we do not. We’re good at being nasty and hurling invective, but we’ve stopped making a contribution to the polity. All we’re doing now is amusing ourselves, if even we’re doing that. The political evidence suggests that the electorate will allow us to amuse ourselves from the sidelines, for years, if not decades, to come.

paul006 on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Isn’t it interesting to realize that in 2012 that Sarah Palin may not be the only conservative subject to attacks by the MSM?

Weren’t we led to assume that Sarah brought it on herself with regards to the MSM?

Believe me, the MSM hoped that Jindal performed well so it then could driven a wedge between Palin and Jindal.

technopeasant on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Yeah Jindal gave a bad speech just as Palin gave a bad interview but that’s no reason to wither under the contemptuous stare of elites. AP is such bashful wallflower.

promachus on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

What is with Brooks rocking back and forth like a mental patient? My God, what a distrubed brown-noser.

RobCon on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

You ought to watch the constant scathing attacks on Santelli. To this day they still gang up on him on CNBC. Thankfully, the smartest folks there agree with Santelli.

Vincenzo on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Of course Allah and the other RINO’s will tell us that in order to be better liked, we just have to go with the flow.

MarkTheGreat on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Bingo.

Because standing up for conservative principles is too scary, especially at a time like this.

thirteen28 on February 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM

indythinker on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Try the decaf.

Mr. D on February 25, 2009 at 1:32 PM

How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

By effectively and passionately arguing for our small-government/free market principles, instead of making ourselves malleable to popular political winds?

Pasalubong on February 25, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I also am against the thinking that the people think the government is the solution. They think Obama is the solution. That is why they like him so much but don’t really like any of the government solutions his is proposing.

I mean, sure, there are the government money suckers who are happy about more government money, but the average people that Obama suckered into voting for him are not buying into his solutions while still managing to like him.

myrenovations on February 25, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Our pundits and so called Conservative comentators are IDIOTS AND TRAITORS to our future and America to praise The Messiah against the moral standings of freedom and The Constitution that Jindal expresses. Are we now, at this moment, at this junction, at this crossroads, going to embrace the Jindal vision, the Conservative vision of America… A proud, mighty, moral Country, with personal rights and freedoms, where hard work and effort are encouraged and rewarded… Or will we simply fold up our values, bow to The Messiah and fall in lock step with the cult of cradle to grave sameness… Where the morons and idiots that make poor choices, live lives of depravity, drugs, gangs, crime, welfare, abortion and moral decay are said to be the winners and the ones of value. The One and his followers have a strangle hold on the MSM, the Great Leader has spoken from on high, he will cure Cancer, calm the tides, make the Sun come out and make all the lazy, uninspired, deadbeats the new rulers of America.

Well freinds, if that’s the kind of America you want, go for it… As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord, we will continue to live a moral, ethical life… We will support Conservatives, speak out against the far left and The Messiah’s radical agenda… We will not lose faith in a just and strong Military, in our desire for personal freedoms, The Constitution and a proud America of work, sucess and reward.

For those of you that scoff at Jindal or Palin or heck, ANY Conservative, if you believe in The Messiah, if you want a gobmit handout, or welfare, or secured mortgage, or Socialized health care, I have a few words for you…

TRAITOR

ANTI-AMERICAN

SOCILIST

RADICAL

CULT FOLLOWER

LAZY

MORON

IDIOT

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:33 PM

indythinker on February 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM

Weren’t you banned not too long ago?

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Honest to God, Allahpundit, we love ya and all but please go write for David Frum at “The New Majority” or something. This is right out his little handbook.

E-mail Michelle and tell her to fire me.

I like the idea, by the way, that I should be the one to leave instead of you.

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

“Government solutions” is to real Conservatism, as God, family, private property and individual effort/reward is to Socialism.

They are anathema.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

The danger of taking the first approach isn’t that we might have to wait a few years, it’s that if Obama succeeds in redefining the center, we might have to wait decades.

Bad policy is only good politics for so long. It won’t take decades for Obama’s policies to produce runaway inflation, spiralling interest rates, a crushing debt burden and persistently stagnant growth. Good luck “redefining the center” in that environment.

Ponz on February 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Remind me again why we’re listening to David Brooks……

Hawkins1701 on February 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM

The level of intelligent discussion on this thread is approaching 0.

Ya’ll are ornery today.

lorien1973 on February 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

You mean you’ll be the one who gets kicked out not us.

promachus on February 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM

The RINO has spoken. He probably should get out and see the rest of America before he forms such foolish opinions.

DL13 on February 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM

E-mail Michelle and tell her to fire me.

I like the idea, by the way, that I should be the one to leave instead of you.

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

I thought what we had here was real.

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Do we even have to put up with this insanity from HotAir too? Brooks is a lap dog for NPR/News Hour – who cares. And PAA-LEAZE stop with the whine, whine and whine about the play by play instant by instant GOP vs The Messiah. This is not done with a stop watch folks – this is a “process” – and the GOP is doing just fine and is the odds favorite to bring the Greek Columns down on those big flapping ears of The One. The GOP does NOT have to win every news cycle as in NASCAR or an ESPN blow by blow – the Messiah has almost on his own taken such an enormous “Hit” already from public opinion that it is shocking. He is coming down – basically the GOP is doing a marvelous job – and they sometimes simply have to step to the side and let this LIAR Commie Lefty just self destruct – which he is in the process of doing. Remember, it’s the policies that count more than the people. The Dems’ policies are wrong headed and will cause nothing but disaster. So STOP complaining about this GOP speech or that lack of action. THE MESSIAH is bombing day by day – let’s just allow his self destruction to run it’s course and be there to pick up the pieces…………….

Cinday Blackburn on February 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Republicans can either stick to laissez faire and wait for the inevitable liberal overreach to push the country back to the right or, per Brooks (and Bill Kristol) they can start incorporating government solutions into their own platform.

How do you incorporate more government involvement into a platform that partially opens with:

Republicans will uphold and defend our party’s core principles: Constrain the federal government to its legitimate constitutional functions. Let it empower people, while limiting its reach into their lives. Spend only what is necessary, and tax only to raise revenue for essential government functions. Unleash the power of enterprise, innovation, civic energy, and the American spirit – and never pretend that government is a substitute for family or community.

A major part of the platform, and part of what makes a conservative conservative, is less government interference.

amerpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM

People did all those things ernie. Not government. People made those things happen in spite of the goivernment. But hey, if they can do all that without taking my weapons, right to speak, give some consideration to the lives of innocent unborn Americans and ask everyone to give their fair share of taxes and not just the top 2 percent, I’m in.

hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 1:38 PM

I have to say, If Obama’s speech was so great than why is everyone obsessing and devoting so many posts to Jindal?

Topsecretk9 on February 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM

I know that the left is ALL about style over substance.

But look where that got us.

Is no one gonna call Obama out on his lies?? Is no one gonna praise the SUBSTANCE of Jindal rebuttal??

Is it REALLY only about who can read the teleprompter better?

And it’s not just the loony left- It’s Allah and WORSE- Ace.

ExTex on February 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Aubiejon, I like your style. Liberal-fellating coward, heehee.

Mark Garnett, didn’t you post that exact same thing in another thread less than 24 hours ago?

It’s your prerogative to copy from yourself, I guess, but don’t you find it even a little embarrassing?

Frivolous on February 25, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Republicans can either stick to laissez faire and wait for the inevitable liberal overreach to push the country back to the right or, per Brooks (and Bill Kristol) they can start incorporating government solutions into their own platform.

Excuse me, where have you been? We have two big government parties with different ideas on how to spend most of my money.

VolMagic on February 25, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Well, this just confirms that David Brooks is an idiot.

I thought Jindal sucked yesterday, not because of content, but because of delivery. The speech itself as written was exactly what the GOP should promote. Jindal just couldn’t deliver it well.

David Brooks (and Parker, Frum, MacDonald, Will, Allahpundit, etc) wants to transform the GOP into a Democrat-lite, big government party. SOrt of like the Tories in the UK.

That would be a disaster.

Norwegian on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

A major part of the platform, and part of what makes a conservative conservative, is less government interference.

amerpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Exactly. And that is why Conservatives have felt betrayed by the Republican party. Far too many “Republicans” are nothing but Socialists, demanding and waiting for “government solutions.”

OhEssYouCowboys on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

All of this will be forgotten in a moment when Obama has to deal with the first terrorist attack of his presidency. I have no doubt that it’s coming, and when it does, the economy will be the least of our worries. Obama has already let the thugs piss all over him, and he’s only been in office for a month. So, we’re all crying over the spendulus bill right now, but just wait for it…

College Prof on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

hawkdriver on February 25, 2009 at 1:38 PM

um, people sure as hell did those things…but people alone couldnt have gone to the moon without NASA and its tax levied budget. we couldnt defeat communism without our tax levied military or diplomatic apparatus. we couldnt create suburbia without the interstate highway system. it just so happens that there are things worth doing that dont have a profit motive attached to them. thats what government is for, doing that which doesnt have profit as a goal but indeed has american interests as a goal.

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution? This is what I was getting at in writing about how the public wants to see action for action’s sake, even if they’re skeptical that it’ll work.

Allah, you ask a fair and troubling question. But it’s been so long since we’ve had an effective messenger carry the small government/freedom message to the American people (remember, Bush was about “compassionate conservatism”), can we really know how Americans would respond to an aggressive conservative proposal?

Why haven’t Republicans developed a conservative economic plan equally bold and audacious as Obama’s plan? I’m talking Ronald Reagan’s “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall boldness.” Conservatives need to put our ideas out there alongside Obama’s malarchy. Deep down our message resonates. Intuitively people know that we can’t borrow our way to prosperity. They know we’re broke. And they don’t want to hand over their freedom to Washington, as Ron Paul says, “Fredom is popular.”

Again, I understand the question, but if we capitulate to big government now, isn’t that an admission that our ideas are invalid?

flyfisher on February 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Please.
If the Democrats can come back 8 short years after standing on the Mall with a muffler and a Lexis, the Republicans can come back too.

Things take time, people. Circumstances change, and they will.

MayBee on February 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM

What Brooks is saying is that socialism sells to a needy and frightened mass of sheep. Which is true. So what the GOP needs to do is sell “socialism for conservatives”. That means hundreds of billions for defense, hundreds of billions for a Mexican fence, hundreds of billions for domestic drilling, hundreds of billions for de-hippifying the education system, and every household gets a Barrett 50 caliber as part of the stimulus. Why should spending be about mortgage bailouts and green energy schemes?

Conservatives need to say, Yes we will spend tax dollars to get you and your neighbor back to work, and you are going back to work on Monday constructing, in orbit around the earth, a Death Star whose superlaser will be so powerful that once it is fully operational it will destroy not only all muslim extremists with one blast, but also most of San Francisco.

keep the change on February 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM

People might not have liked Jindal’s delivery, personally I didn’t have a problem with it – I like that he emphasized what he says and not so much how he says it. His substance was dead on. Brooks would have told Ronald Reagan to moderate his views and see the virtue of government. He’s a shrinking, scared ‘conservative’. Probably would have disagreed with Milton Friedman and argued in favor of more government intervention. Following Brooks would lead us to being the Democratic-Lite Party. No thank you!

Style Doggie on February 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

ExTex,

+1

Christien on February 25, 2009 at 1:43 PM

This country is so obsessed with style that it can not hear the substance any more.

Grayzel on February 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Republicans will never be able to outspend Democrats. A big reason Democrats have been successful over the past four years is they finally figured out they couldn’t win being Republican light and started appealing directly to their liberal base.

Now Republicans have the same problem. Ever since the election, we’ve heard from Brooks, Frum etc. that we need to be Democrat light. That just won’t work. Nobody is going to vote for the party that says “we’ll do what the other guys are doing, just not so much of it”. Staying true to conservative principles will get Republicans excited to vote again and that’s how we win.

clearbluesky on February 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I would call Jindal’s speech a missed opportunity than a disaster. Frankly, how many people even watched Obama’s speech let alone Jindal’s?

Mr. Joe on February 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Does anyone know the website number of this interview?

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:33 PM

eishhh thats right. anyone who doesnt agree with your worldview is obviously a traitor to the state. you sound worse than the worst Kossacks. go jump off a bridge with your faux-patriotism.

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The danger of taking the first approach isn’t that we might have to wait a few years, it’s that if Obama succeeds in redefining the center, we might have to wait decades.

We don’t have decades. If the country keeps sliding away from what used to be considered normal and keeps creeping further and further to the antithesis to what America used to be then I think we will have a Revolution before decades go by.

Guardian on February 25, 2009 at 1:46 PM

JOe, I personally attempted to watch the BO and I had to turn the channel. I literally could not watch it. I watched “Glory” instead.

bloggless on February 25, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I would call Jindal’s speech a missed opportunity than a disaster. Frankly, how many people even watched Obama’s speech let alone Jindal’s?

Mr. Joe on February 25, 2009 at 1:44 PM

I was walking my dog, inasmuch as (1) we have an agreement that she is to be walked, religiously and (2) I’m not in the mood to hear “Republicans” call for “government solutions.”

OhEssYouCowboys on February 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Brooks is an idiot. He needs to go away. Any republican who is not deemed well to Brooks is an EXCELLENT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.

jencab on February 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM

All of this will be forgotten in a moment when Obama has to deal with the first terrorist attack of his presidency. I have no doubt that it’s coming, and when it does, the economy will be the least of our worries. Obama has already let the thugs piss all over him, and he’s only been in office for a month. So, we’re all crying over the spendulus bill right now, but just wait for it…

College Prof on February 25, 2009 at 1:41 PM

No thanks. I’m not going to hope for a terrorist attack and then an ensuing failure of government’s response afterwards.

If God Forbid, there was another attack on our soil, I hope Obama strikes back with ferocity.

Vincenzo on February 25, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Honest to God, Allahpundit, we love ya and all but please go write for David Frum at “The New Majority” or something. This is right out his little handbook.
E-mail Michelle and tell her to fire me.

I like the idea, by the way, that I should be the one to leave instead of you.

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Good gracious, people. Isn’t this the same sort of inane censorship that we decry from the left? Allah, you have the First Amendment right to say whatever suits the moment, and we need to have the stones to mount a persuasive argument against it. To quote one of the left’s favorite icons, Desmond Tutu: “Don’t raise your voice; improve your argument.”

College Prof on February 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:33 PM

eishhh thats right. anyone who doesnt agree with your worldview is obviously a traitor to the state. you sound worse than the worst Kossacks. go jump off a bridge with your faux-patriotism.

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM

The state exists to reflect a worldview. Our problem now is that the US public has two. Thus, to one group, the state and its supporters are the enemy. It’ll all be sorted-out after the war.

JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM

worst speech in the history of mankind.

Jindal needs to be banned from giving speaches. This was horrible

money2 on February 25, 2009 at 1:21 PM

You clearly missed McCain’s campaign speech in New Orleans against the green background. And he had more at stake. Jindal was asked to perform a thankless task; he did fine under the circumstances.

Besides, who’s the president?

BuckeyeSam on February 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Nice work, the Socialist schools of the Messiah have done a great job with you…

Mark Garnett on February 25, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Of course Allah and the other RINO’s

I think Allah should go back to DailyKoSS that he crawled out of. Plus what’s up with the nickname? His secret preferences have long been overlooked.

radiofreevillage on February 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 1:49 PM

then count me on the side opposite that mark garnett nutcase. he needs to stay away from any dangerous objects and preferably lead a life in which he is responsible for nothing..as i fear for anyone who has to rely on this numbskull for anything.

ernesto on February 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

E-mail Michelle and tell her to fire me.

I like the idea, by the way, that I should be the one to leave instead of you.

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM

No, I would leave before I would suggest to Michelle that she fire her employees. I am the guest; you are the host.

However, if you want to leave, don’t blame me.

BigD on February 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

How does the GOP adapt to a political climate in which government, at least momentarily, is seen less as the problem than as the solution?

By providing leaner solutions than the Democrats and pairing that with numbers on how much of their own money families will get back because of the efficiencies.

We must become the party of doing more with less – being smart with our money instead of spending like drunken sailors on corporate welfare and ineffective social engineering. We must focus on freedom for all, not entitlements for the privileged. We can’t tell people how to live anymore. Let contentious moral issues be decided by referendum wherever possible, or bypass them entirely.

Highlight Democrat excess and ineffectiveness and tell the people how much Dem failures are costing them – not just in taxes, but in lost jobs and lost production.

Money talks and freedom from moral scolds appeals to almost everybody. We need to make people understand that “a government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything away.” And it will. Every time they raise taxes in a recession to do something stupid this should be the drumbeat.

TheUnrepentantGeek on February 25, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I think Allah should go back to DailyKoSS that he crawled out of. Plus what’s up with the nickname? His secret preferences have long been overlooked.

radiofreevillage on February 25, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Simply lovely. A new low.

Allahpundit on February 25, 2009 at 1:52 PM

then count me on the side opposite that mark garnett

Stipulated.

JiangxiDad on February 25, 2009 at 1:52 PM

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