Video: Ziegler, O’Donnell tangle over Palin
posted at 10:37 am on February 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Meat just doesn’t get redder than this. If John Ziegler tried to keep it friendly with Matt Lauer yesterday, he had no such reticence with Norah O’Donnell later on MS-NBC. He called NBC an “advocacy organization” and wondered why O’Donnell didn’t get fired after misquoting Sarah Palin:
John’s quite clever in this interview. Unlike with Matt Lauer, where the lengthy segment gave plenty of time for dialogue, John knew he would only have a limited time to talk with O’Donnell. He winds up dominating the conversation, only giving O’Donnell a couple of opportunities to respond. In this case, he peppers O’Donnell with some of the specific examples that he didn’t get to use with Lauer’s more broad questions.
Don’t kid yourselves, though; MS-NBC (and Fox, for that matter) love this kind of action. It’s practically all they do. They may want to see O’Donnell take better control of an interview, but otherwise, it’s golden for all involved.
You can order Media Malpractice today.
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“Filmmaker claims” on the screen …. every opportunity is taken by propaganda media to cover for Obama and the Dhimms.
ex-Democrat on February 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I really can’t believe anyone wastes their time watching this inane drivel.
There are so many better things to do than this including driving steel spikes into one’s eyeballs, that I am amazed they have even one viewer.
NoDonkey on February 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM
John Ziegler might as well be talking to one of those kid’s toys that has a limited, fixed set of things it can say. Regardless of what JZ says or shows overwhelming evidence to support, O’Donnell can only say a few things:
1. What does she read?
2. Wasn’t she unqualified to be VP?
3. What experience did she have to enable her to VP? I mean, she was a mayor of a very small town and only governor for a short time.
4. blah
5. blah
6. blah
7. Bias?! We aren’t bias. You’re bias!
King of the Britons on February 24, 2009 at 10:44 AM
We’ll see ya, buddy.
Speakup on February 24, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Oh, brother…Blame Tina Fey for Palin’s innefectiveness as a VP candidate. And you’re not going to get very far by calling people “stupid”.
The Palin apologists are really grasping at straws lately.
JetBoy on February 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Hahahaha. God is using Ziegler. How great!
JiangxiDad on February 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM
heard him interviewed on Glenn beck radio this morning.
Comedy gold
blatantblue on February 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM
I think he is right in calling people “stupid” as you just proved
Ziegler clearly states … CLEARLY STATES, that he was talking about the media using Tina Fey clips on news shows
For example, I think you might need to watch the clip again … he states that Tina Fey was used by Andrea Mitchell during stories that had nothing to do with SNL.
Maybe you should work for MSNBC
joey24007 on February 24, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I’d like to see Norah O’Donnell’s butt. Is it any good?
Metro on February 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM
WOW! I’ve never, EVER seen an interviewee so totally devastate an interviewer. When she did pull out a hammer and swing at him, he grabbed it out of her hands and clubbed her over the head with it. This was BEAUTIFUL!!
RegularJoe on February 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM
The interviewer just doesn’t know what to do with a guest who knows how to back up his rhetoric with those pesky facts. What is the most disingenuous is that the lady refuses to say MSNBC is even remotely biased. How can someone say this when Chris Matthews talks about how its his job to ensure that the Obama Administration is a success.
txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM
Sweetness.
christene on February 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM
that he was talking about the media using Tina Fey clips on news shows
They did their best to buffoonerize Palin at every opportunity; the line between doltish tv/movie personalities and presidential candidates blurs for a generation of morons raised by Mother Ipod and Father Xbox.
Bishop on February 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM
This is what Ziegler needs to do more of. Attack the drive-bys by citing specific examples of their “media malpractice” as he likes to call it.
In this case, he nailed O’Donnell with her “Palin called Obama a terrorist” falsehood and she had no response other than to attempt to move on to the next question.
Do that in every single interview.
Doughboy on February 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM
I love Zeigler. He lays it out straight and unvarnished. Norah O’Donnell’s inability to even respond to any of the charges leveled directly at her was just amazing. One would think that MSNBC would have been prepared for Zeigler, seeing how he slapped Lauer around like a rag doll and had taken O’Donnell apart in interviews with him before.
Norah O’Donnell is a tragic disappointment. So much beauty combined with purely nasty stupidity in the service of the dumbing down of everything around her. A total waste. My response to her claim that “I think people are smart” would have been that those judgments are purely relative.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM
I never watch PMSNBC, is this reporter always this vacuous? She is too hard-looking to be considered cute.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM
lol…O’Donnell got pwnd. I bet she is still smarting after Ziegler said that she should have been sacked for saying that Palin called Obama a terrorist during the campaign.
Dreadnought223 on February 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Don’t know, but her “If’s” and “And’s” are beyond reproach.
Captain Scarlet on February 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Hold on a second, Omaha…O’Donnell is a total assclown yes, but that is one hot slice of ass.
Metro on February 24, 2009 at 11:00 AM
and also, yes, that was a delicious beat down. O’Donnell was thoroughly humiliated there.
Metro on February 24, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Ziegler has commissioned polling (through Zogby) that shows that most Obama voters believed a lot of demonstrably untrue things about Palin that appeared in Tina Fey skits. “I can see Russia from my kitchen window” was a good example. When people don’t watch the candidates because “they’re boring”, and all they “know” about them is what they see on SNL, it has an effect. Not Tina Fey’s fault, exactly, but let’s not deny the phenomenon.
And “Palin apologist”? Hardly. I think she has the natural tools, but I’m on record as saying she is, to use an SNL expression, “Not Ready for Prime Time”. But that is a different question than whether she got fair treatment in either the entertainment or information media. She did not.
RegularJoe on February 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM
It was a pretty poor-quality vid. Is there a clearer clip of her so I can get a better look?
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Whoa– she didn’t even try to defend herself. Hahahah! MSNBC really has given up all pretense of being “objective.”
Pasalubong on February 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Well, about 68% of us.
Abby Adams on February 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM
My third post on this — somebody stop me — but I just had to tell you what I wish he’d said.
O’Donnell: “I think people are smart”.
Ziegler: “Well, compared to you, yeah. I meant compared to conservatives”.
RegularJoe on February 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Amazing what happens when you take the teleprompter away…Norah was devastated.
Great shot at Andrea for showing SNL on her show, knocked Norah back a step…
Of course the left wing will think that he was MEAN…
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Much better.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 11:06 AM
That was great. I really like the point about her falsely quoting “terrorist”. She didn’t even attempt to answer that. Ziegler for the win.
btw, thanks for the post, Ed.
Spirit of 1776 on February 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM
While I agree with much of what Ziegler said, he provides an easy deflection for the journalists interviewing him when he says comedy shows are looked at as news by the general public. This statement is much too simple an analysis and easily dismissed by the mainstream media. Ziegler needs to take it one step further.
It’s true that the public accepts shows such as SNL or the Daily Show as instruments to develop their opinion. They are smart enough to recognize they are simply comedy shows. But the public doesn’t account for the bias inherent within these shows. The electorate trusts comedy news shows to use accurate information as a basis for their parody. They subconsciously ask themselves, “why would Tina Fey play Palin as a moron if it wasn’t true?”
So yes, while Jon Stewart is allowed to call his news ‘fake’ all he wants, the fact is he still has a responsibility to play both sides for the fools they are.
http://thirdbasepolitics.blogspot.com/2009/02/and-thatis-rest-of-story.html
DJ Tablesauce on February 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM
The fact that MSM won’t admit its coverage of conservatives in general (and Sarah Palin in particular) is biased in view of reserach done by neutral sources like Pew Research and George Mason University indicates: they are: 1)in total denial; 2) the world’s biggest liars; 3) a combination of 1 & 2.
bw222 on February 24, 2009 at 11:07 AM
“SNL is thought to be a news agency…”
Well yes, Nora, our MTV culture can’t tell the difference any more.
My little wind up Obama doll says:
RadioFreeUSA on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM
The Palin apologists are really grasping at straws lately.
JetBoy on February 24, 2009 at 10:47 AM
And there’s you JetBoy, who grasps at straws every day.
bw222 on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM
I had my doubts but they have all evaporated. Thank you Ziegler for all you are doing. Your efforts are much appreciated.
promachus on February 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Why are liberal women so hard and cold looking, and so full of venom? This Norah biatch could chip ice with that face and that smarmy attitude. Her network takes “equal stabs at dems and repubs”? WTF??
Ris4victory on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Of, SNL by itself is not a problem. But when the MSM shows the SNL clips over and over and over and over and over and over. That’s a problem.
How many times did you see anyone make fun of Obama during the election? How about now?
When will the cowards at SNL start making fun of Obama?
faraway on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 AM
yea 60% of US Citizens are STUPID… AT least that many…
start first with the idiots that voted for the Head Monkey and then go from there…
NRA Lifer on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Ziegler put a big size 12 carbon footprint on NBC’s a$$.
Oofaw!
whitetop on February 24, 2009 at 11:17 AM
That was awesome. Punching bag. When they can’t control the content with sycophants, they get exposed as the frauds that they are.
marklmail on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Is it your contention that only people who give good interviews are capable of leading? Do you have a problem with how Palin has governed in Alaska? What specifically do you have a problem with regarding her governing of Alaska?
I like Sarah Palin. I don’t really require a leader to be the smartest person in the room at all times. I require a leader to have integrity, be assertive, and have principles. I believe Sarah Palin is all of those things. I don’t care if she gives a good interview or if she reads books recommended by the NYT or academia.
Do you feel like the media has not attacked Sarah Palin relentlessly since her introduction?
Who do you like for a liberty-loving, fiscally responsible leader?
King of the Britons on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Nora is a monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey, monkey…
winston on February 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Ziegler was great. He really clubbed her over the head.
OT somewhat: They played a clip of Brian Williams last night in a segment Ziegler did on O’Reilly Factor. It was unbelievable. It was a clip of Williams reading an unfounded Joe Klein piece almost immediately after Palin’s stemwinder at the GOP convention. I had no idea Williams was such an absolute weasel. Klein’s piece was a complete hatchet job on Palin, and Williams simply read it word for word without doing any original investigation or reporting. You could see the NBC/MSNBC “news” producers screaming in his earpiece, “Read that Klein piece. We have to destroy this b**** before she takes off.” It was pathetic reporting. I rarely watch any segment Williams does. But after that clip, rarely has become will never.
Anyway, I loved Ziegler teeing off on O’Donnell. And if I had to suffer through a conversation with any of these MSNBC nitwits, I’d take Contessa Brewer.
That said, I’ll take the Fox ladies any day of the week. BTW, has there been a recent siting of the Economy Lady?
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM
John Nailed it…..
DL13 on February 24, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Norah O’Donnell just got annihilated and probably went to the green room to fan her eyes after this interview.
nitzsche on February 24, 2009 at 11:20 AM
You owe Al Sharpton an apology.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Sarah Palin is more qualified to run for VP than Nora is to call her self a news reporter. Wonder what she reads at home? Or, does she have any original thoughts that are not written down for her. Or, how short was her skirt during the job interview?
hillbilly on February 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM
He killed this one. I’m buying.
the_nile on February 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM
O’Donnell needs a new pair of Depends after this.
Ziegler rocks!
profitsbeard on February 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM
lucky for her, only 5 regular TV viewers watched
joey24007 on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Hannity needs to one of those liberal translation things while Williams is reading the Klein hit piece
faraway on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Outstanding!
Viper1 on February 24, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Bought his movie.
Ted Torgerson on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Ouch, I swear this guy is as bad a Chris Brown. It isn’t nice to beat on a woman. She only worshipped Obama because he is virtually a god and that Sarah Palin is evil. She is fiscally responsible and understands we need a well developed energy policy. Blah to heck with all that, we now have Joe Biden, the presidential court jester who thinks himself a genius and relevant. Oh yes, and we have Obama, the superior intellect.
Africanus on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Wow, just wow.
I’ve never seen a beatdown like that being taken by the media.
She didnt’ even try to justify or explain away her misquote of Gov. Palin.
Wow.
Marine_Bio on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM
And there’s you JetBoy, who grasps at straws every day.
bw222
Er, is that a swipe at his intellectual acumen or his “manhood”? The one is obvious. The other should never be.
SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Wow!
She’s got an IQ of about 19 doesn’t she?
thareb on February 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM
At least Fox cites examples and facts when confronting people. Many may not like O’Reilly, but he’s gonna have his facts straight before ambushing someone.
RMCS_USN on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Go ahead and laugh off your and your ilk’s lack of journalist integrity, O’Donnell.
When the Revolution begins, the Democrat Party-run media minions will be high on the Patriots’ list.
Rae on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM
That’s a great point also about “News” channels using the Fey clips. I saw that.
Spirit of 1776 on February 24, 2009 at 11:30 AM
OF COURSE there are stupid people! How else would you account for the few hundred thousand cretinous, slack-jawed viewers that tune in to Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow every day?
wildweasel on February 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM
It’s intoxicating. My wife has a similar Ice Queen look to her only she’s not a loony liberal.
Metro on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM
LMAO… Yeah, like when he said “Don’t count out Charlie Crist” yesterday in discussing the 2012 GOP field…
Norwegian on February 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM
And there’s you JetBoy, who grasps at straws every day.
bw222 on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM
*
The Doctor keeps reassuring him that it IS male genitalia.
marklmail on February 24, 2009 at 11:37 AM
What is amazing to me is that they let him on air…
d1carter on February 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I listened to John for years on 640KFI before his morning associate hosts Bill Handel ran him out of the station.
You can’t shut John up, he’s a great fighter and honest as GOD. I’m sure the MSM really, really hate him for what he’s produced. I can’t wait to have him do a Governor Arnold Kennedy doc.
need music pane@cox.net
MALICIOUS DISORDER on February 24, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Yep, him or Ann Coulter.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Be sure to watch the full trailer…
Would you like me to correct your poor grammar, smartypants?
Buy Danish on February 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM
To you lefties out there who seem to put your blinders on when it comes to this subject, I think we all can agree that it’s expected that campaigns will try to marginalize the adversary. They’ll just keep trying, again and again. In Sarah Palin’s case, they tried 2 approaches; to sexualize her, and to “stupefy” her.
Ok, fine…we all saw it. ALL of us, regardless of whether we swing right or left (come on…you have to admit it, don’t you?). Ziegler’s trying to grab our heads and MAKE us look at what is so obviously true. The press was no adversary to Barak Obama. They were to everyone else (even Joe Biden, but to a lesser extent).
Granted, Ziegler leans to the right, but one has to acknowledge that this election season was simply over the friggin’ top! I think we should all expect the press (as a whole) to at least play “devil’s advocate” and present the opposing viewpoint in a somewhat challenging way and expect an answer, and not let evasion occur, be it Palin or Obama.
You have to admit that Palin got the “Hey you…PROVE yourself!” treatment (which is fine), and Obama did not.
cranbone on February 24, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Didn’t you see the video. It’s right there staring at you and talking. She is a snarky little worm & an obvious butthead.
wepeople on February 24, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Norah struggled to stay afloat, but went under water at Ziegler’s mention of moon-face Mitchell’s using Fey clips as Governor Palin as “hard” news. O’D needs a bailout.
Teddy on February 24, 2009 at 11:57 AM
She ducked the assertion that Ziegler correctly made.
And God yes, people are stupid.
At least 62% are stupid. And she is as disingenuous as she is attractive.
drjohn on February 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Obama had over a year of sparing against Hillary to introduce himself to voters. Palin was unknown to most in the country until McCain picked her. It is difficult go from unknown to appearing Presidential in a couple of weeks. In the face of a very big challenge the introduction was handled poorly.
If Obama got a pass, he won’t 3 years from now. Palin has time to counter the perception of the 2008 campaign. She’ll need a good game plan and to make efficient use of the time remaining.
dedalus on February 24, 2009 at 12:01 PM
WOW! I’ve never, EVER seen an interviewee so totally devastate an interviewer. When she did pull out a hammer and swing at him, he grabbed it out of her hands and clubbed her over the head with it. This was BEAUTIFUL!!
RegularJoe
That was indeed beautiful! You couldn’t have desribed it better. I laughed out loud when I ready you comment.
karu_servative on February 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Well, well.
Judging by some of the comments above, the ultra-cons are acting more and more like conservative versions of the Obamites…If anyone dare question the messiah-ette, start the personal attacks.
Steele has his job cut out for him. Hopefully us Republicans can actually come together by 2012. ‘Cauuse if we don’t, be prepared for more Democratic leadership.
JetBoy on February 24, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Huh? You are really being weird, now. I had no idea that you really hated Palin. I thought you just hated people who had anything bad to say about McCain, but you are demonstrating some amazingly odd thinking in this thread. Weird.
Uh … right. Now you can get back to making some unbelievable defense of the MSM’s treatment of Palin.
There are a lot of your posts and your views that I agree with, but you are just totally off-the-rails on this.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Yeah, a Charlie Crist presidency will be bad
Tell me Jet, what is the difference between Charlie Crist and Barack Obama on the single greatest spending bill and expansion of the federal government in history?
joey24007 on February 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM
To be fair, your first comments here weren’t exactly intended to unite.
Esthier on February 24, 2009 at 12:13 PM
JetBoy, please tell us why you don’t like Gov. Palin as a candidate and which of her stances you disagree with.
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 12:14 PM
One is the pitcher and the other is the catcher?
Probably a poor choice of words considering we’re talking about Orange Crist… but whatever…
BPD on February 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM
ODonnell was stunned when she was hit with the reminder that she said that palin called obama a terrorist. At that point, she was toast and was off-balance and couldnt think.
She looked stupid…and she got pwned.
The Wall on February 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
It really is. And for some reason people really do need to be reminded of that constantly.
Jim Treacher on February 24, 2009 at 12:21 PM
I’ll state this, and then I’ll go away.
I’m giving up HotAir for Lent, starting tomorrow. (Since you’re supposed to give up something you like…and I do like HotAir) So may has well make myself clear…again…
I like Sarah Palin. I have, and do, admire all the god she has done while governor of Alaska. Sure, the MSM was less than kind to her…does that come as any surprise?
Thing is, she would be a horrible choice for the GOP nomination for POTUS. You guys have set her up on such a high pedestal, she’s doomed to fall of of it. Much like Obama’s expectations are so high, the only way for him to go is…down.
And much of it has to do with the Palin apologists…the “my way or the highway” crowd. Thing is too…there’s not enough of that kind of sentiment in the GOP today. You can’t win with that attitude.
I want a winner next election. And Palin won’t win.
JetBoy on February 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Well, well.
Go back and read again. There were VERY few comments extolling Palin’s qualifications, and NONE claiming the press shouldn’t have (fairly) tested her mettle. As I’ve said before, where they WERE fair, she came up a bit wanting. But that’s not the topic here. The topic is whether they were fair (and they were not) and whether John Ziegler rhetorically cleaned O’Donnel’s clock (and he did).
Yes, Steele has his job cut out for him. So does Palin if she wants to take a crack at it in 2012. But neither of those facts is relevant to this discussion.
BTW, “us Republicans”? If indeed you are one, it should be “we Republicans”; but I really suspect it should have said “you Republicans”.
RegularJoe on February 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
And of the fact that she wasn’t running for president, unlike our “Not Ready for Prime Time” Messiah.
Esthier on February 24, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Somehow that interview was racist or something. I feel dirty.
Nice beat down, Ziegler. That was a BUTT PWN.
wccawa on February 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM
John was on the B-Cast over at breitbart.tv yesterday with the lovely and talented Liz Stephens and that other guy, and went into more depth with them on his interviews with both Lauer and O’Donnell.
I highly recommend finding the time to watch. It is about 1 hr, and well worth it.
rslancer14 on February 24, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Look. The tools at NBC and MSNBC know that they are an advocacy group, although they make weak attempts at denying it. They are convinced that they can survive this. They really stand by their abilities to propogandize their way out of the perception that they are biased.
Their upper management figures they’ve got a good five to seven years left before they lose their audience. I think they overestimate their longevity.
Someone needs to track how much of MSNBC’s audience is made up of conservatives looking for fodder. No one is watching these people.
EMD on February 24, 2009 at 12:29 PM
but Jetboy, tell us about Charlie Crist:
joey24007 on February 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Yes dedalus, true. But my thing is that if we righties are upset at the media for a double standard, then we should keep our focus on that.
I think we should be fine with media pressure on people like Palin or Jindal, or whoever we see as someone we could get behind (let’s face it, Obama’s very good in the persuasion dept., so should OUR choice be).
Honestly, Palin SHOULD have been raked over the coals for her Couric interview. She dropped the ball, period. However, when good running backs fumble, they often come back and can win the game for you. The MSM let THAT be the one byte that “defined” who Palin was. It’s as if a running back was having a good season, but the sports commentators continually played the video of one fumble in one game…over and over. That would be weird. You’d wonder what their agenda was.
You wouldn’t look at the running back, you wouldn’t look at the defender who made the big hit, you’d start asking yourself a very deep question; WTF?? What’s WITH these guys? What do they have against this runner? It would be obvious.
Remember how George Stephanopoulos was slammed for even having the gall to ask about Bill Ayers in that primary debate? Slammed by leftie commentators, but simply repeated by MSM as if it was a complaint not my lefties, but a general complaint of some kind, and not challenged aggressively…no push back (except, of course, by righties). There needs to be “push back” by MSM, and we righties need to hold their feet to the fire (like John Ziegler is).
We have to get more MOR’s (middle of the roaders) to ask that all important question about the MSM; WTF??
cranbone on February 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM
I’ll miss your comments (except on McCain/illegal alien threads). As RegularJoe said, this thread was about 2008, not 2012. That’s why your posts seemed so confusing to me.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 12:32 PM
I understand that she is still learning, JetBoy. She is and she will. But, she has a lot of charisma. Watching your posts since before the election, I know that she has at least one stance that you disagree with. Does the fact that she is against this particular stance and you are for it make a difference in your judgement of whether she is ready to run or not? I am being vague while trying to be as respectful as I can.
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Whilst you’re observing Lent, you might want to take the time to acquaint yourself with the Church’s position on same sex marriage.
Kensington on February 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
That’s partially, irritatingly, because too many “Republicans” like you want to take Democrat positions.
Kensington on February 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Kensington on February 24, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Man, here I was trying to be respectful to him and there you go. Oh, well.
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Far, far better this time. He, as you say, had specific examples and took control.
She tried to make him look stupid with the SNL example and he was able to not only quickly make explain his reasons for using SNL, but further hammer on the press in the process.
Kudos Mr. Ziegler, well done.
29Victor on February 24, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Way to go Zieg! The corrupt news media deserves this on a daily basis. There’s a long way to go to end the corruption and media bias by MSNBC and CNN as well. Go get em!
Travis1 on February 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM
This isn’t about Crist, it’s about Palin.
I’m not “married”, so I’m not violating any doctrine.
Yeah, sorry ’bout that. You know what it is, it’s my anger still at the ultra-cons over their non-support of McCain that still bubbles over. argh!
No, not “you” Republicans. I’m registered, and vote, Republican. Democrats make me sick.
JetBoy on February 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
My post had nothing to do with yours; I just get irritated by that kind of cognitive dissonance, particularly amongst Catholics.
“I’m Catholic, and I’m voting for Barack Obama!”
“I’m Catholic, and I support gay marriage!”
“I’m Catholic, and I’m pro abortion!” (see Catholic and pro-Obama)
Kensington on February 24, 2009 at 12:41 PM
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