Open thread: Synthesis of Jesus, Lincoln, Reagan, and FDR to address nation; Update: Churchill, too
posted at 8:25 pm on February 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
9 p.m. ET everywhere. Obama should last about an hour, then Jindal takes over for 15 minutes. Here’s my Twitter prediction of what Jindal would say from early this afternoon, and here’s the excerpt of his speech released for publication a little while ago. How’d I do?
Compare and contrast the big finish to his rebuttal…
“A few weeks ago, the President warned that our nation is facing a crisis that he said ‘we may not be able to reverse.’ Our troubles are real, to be sure. But don’t let anyone tell you that we cannot recover – or that America’s best days are behind her.”
…with the key passage to the speech he’s rebutting. Hmmm:
But while our economy may be weakened and our confidence shaken; though we are living through difficult and uncertain times, tonight I want every American to know this: We will rebuild, we will recover, and the United States of America will emerge stronger than before.
The boss has already provided the Cliff’s Notes version of The One’s speech in case you don’t feel like watching. Or, if you prefer a longer treatment, try the AP’s report from the future on an address that hasn’t been delivered yet. Sounds like it was a smash. Exit question: Does the fact that the very first “Jindal is a Muslim” rumors are starting to swirl mean he’s officially arrived on the national stage?
Update: Politico helpfully prepares Jindal for the inevitable “you reeked” backlash.
Update: I forgot Churchill in the headline, but Chris Matthews didn’t. Follow the link for Buchanan’s retort.
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We’ve lost the element of surprize with Palin. The media sucessfully convinced most Americans she is a nut. I don’t know how she can overcome that. I hope she can. Reagan overcame a lot of that but wow no one was trashed like Palin was. I don’t know how she gets her reputation back.
petunia on February 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Cantor just blew….I have no idea what he was trying to say….understood Hannity tho!
cappy718 on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I guess the big O will have to give these State of the Stimulus speeches every week or so!
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
I wouldn’t worry too much about Jindal or Palin or anyone else. 2012 will be about Obama. If he gets lucky and somehow the economy recovers, and the Middle East doesn’t descend into chaos, he’ll get re-elected regardless of the Republican candidate. If unemployment is around 10% and inflation has kicked in, and the market is not recovering, and the Middle East is chaos, bye-bye Obama and welcome Gov. Whoever (R).
pearson on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
FREE College tution!
Wonder if they ALL apply to Harvard, Yale….
TN Mom on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Reagan came before the 24-hour news cycle. He would fair no better.
spmat on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I agree and worry about that at times, but 4 years is a long time and people have short memories.
davek70 on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
So are we living the part where we see what life is like without conservatives (in leadership positions)?
WashJeff on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
By (if she wants to run) being herself and running in her own campaign. Also, 4 years of Obama won’t hurt. He’s lost the element of surprise as well.
ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
Yeah, just like Kerry/Edwards claimed dems would make parapolegics walk again. All they have to do is be well-intentioned… they don’t have to show actual results on their promises.
ErinF on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I still can’t believe that after 4 years Americans will not be sick of Obama’s arrogant smirk. I think after a while the cadence of his speech will be like nails on a chaulk board. Depends on the economy. We will see.
But Jindal looked like a real person, even with his flaws. People like that. Most people just want someone they like and Jindal is likeable. It’s not like my beloved Bush was a great speaker. But he was real.
Jindal in comparison to Obama was smart, but not impressed with himself. I thought I would vomit watching Obama signing autographs and taking forever to leave the hall.
Elisa on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Palin believes in fiscal responsibility, balanced budgets and defending American and the Constitution with every breath she takes.
If that makes her ‘nuts’ I hope millions join her in the lunatic asylum.
technopeasant on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Why not stick with taking a shot whenever the filthy liar uses the personal pronouns? Never have I seen a more arrogant bastard who talks as if he is running the US government single-handedly while jetting around the nation like some sort of rock star on perpetual tour.
A-f’inng-men! This guy is nothing more than an arrogant P****. “I will”???? No, Barry. “We will” as in you work for us, thus you are acting on our behalf (although not all of us agree). “I will send my budget”? No! THE Budget will be sent. “I’ve asked my vice president”. Moron! YOU don’t have a Vice President. THE COUNTRY has a Vice President. So he is THE Vice President, not YOUR Vice President.
Gawd! And I thought Clinton was the height of narcissim.
Fed45 on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Me either.
Not by retreating like DQ. If Obama’s administration is unsuccessful, a lot of the rehab will be done.
Spirit of 1776 on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Tonight was kind of like watching Geitner’s detailed speech…NO DETAILS! Wonder what markets will look like tomorrow?? Me thinks not so good.
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM
So after we get all of these free goodies, and the possibility of getting a check in the mail. He lowers the taxes for 95% of the working families. Who is left with the bill. There is no way only 5% of Americans can pay for this. Unless all his hollywood friends are going to donate to the national budget.
Brat4life on February 24, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Y’all can read my sig line, but hey it is true…I wiped my kid’s rear end a while ago before coming here, and definitely my girl Sarah would’ve taken care of Obama the same way I took care of that baby wipe.
I spent my evening in the basement, hunkered down watched the whole thing; I am not so into Jindal because I really don’t know the guy but he gives me the softie “Juan” vibe.
Sorry guys hate to break it to ya. If the RNC had any part in kicking Sarah off the map for Bobby Jindal, I regret we will have four more years of this insaneness. IF we get to make it past this.
Now fire away….*ducks*
ProudPalinFan on February 24, 2009 at 11:11 PM
Wrong. Palin’s teleprompter quit working for a bit during her RNC speech. She did damn well, and didn’t miss one step.
seaplanes on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Nah. Just a little disappointed. It’s okay. The idiot messiah’s speech was so absolutely insane that conervative talkers and bloggers will be taking it apart for a while.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
It wasn’t just “free college.” I heard him say mandated education! He said EVERY American WILL have at least one year of college OR some kind of training!
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM
I think it’s the overriding concern about everything, not just the speech.
The GOP was far too accepting of what Ogabe said, and the constant fawning about his race is troubling. We don’t have time to sweep up the crumbs and work on some far-flung agenda; the libs are moving fast now and will be hitting us on a weekly basis.
Bishop on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Lady In Gray..
I’m in west TN.
Your’e invited:
Tea Party
Friday, Feb 27th
11am – 2pm
Legislative Plaza
NASHVILLE, TN
BYOB: Anti Pork Spending Signs!
TN Mom on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I want Gov. Palin to quit saying “progressing the nation forward”. It’s become a tick and it drives me crazy. And don’t anybody give me a bunch of crap because I said either.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Yep..From the Obama transcript…
Deanna on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
WTF did Palin’s people hire some sort of Axelrod-esque group?
This is hyserical. Palin the new Reagan? Reagan would have had enough sense to turn down McCain’s VP offer.
bj1126 on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
I just think the bank scene is very compelling because you have all those lemmings willing to go bail out to Potter (Obama) for BS. It’s a message of hanging tough and looking to each other. Even if you “have doctor’s bills to pay.”
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
From reading the speech, that college won’t be free. You have to do “service.” This is what his website said before the election. Signing on for community service (approved, of course) in order to get a reduction in college costs.
It was gone over in great detail by a number of people, and I can’t remember everything about it now, but it didn’t augur well for colleges that refused to pony up, or some such; and some said it would increase tuition overall.
My problem is, of course, the idea of the approved services; i.e., more brainwashing, more little brownshirts.
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
Ben Nelson is a little person.
myrenovations on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Clinton at least showed slight traces of sanity and common sense on occasion.
ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Lord have mercy Jindal was a hot mess! I feel bad for y’all.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Here’s the problem with Jindal. He was talking down to us as he marketed himself as a nicer conservative version of mini-Obama. That’s not what we’re in the mood for now…or ever. And if Jindal was a Rhodes scholar that’s certainly not anything to be happy about as a conservative.
econavenger on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
The one’s speech makes me think somebody has a rich uncle and, by the way, it ain’t me!!
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Exactly, Bishop.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Didn’t hear Omama or Jindal. Nothing against Bobby.
But the follow up ia always a bit blah. . .No matter
what side gives it. It he made good points and rebuttals
then he did fine. It’s impossible to follow all the
fanfare of a SOTU speech with anything but bland. Just
the way it is.
Texyank on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Wait a minute – what?
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
pearson on February 24, 2009 at 11:08 PM
Unfortunately, I think you are absolutely right
Elisa on February 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM
One thing about Obama’s college tuition plan, the cost of government sending a kid to four years at Harvard would probably be less than the cost of a lot of the jobs created through the stimulus bill.
DarkKnight3565 on February 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM
It’s a ploy. As soon as his numbers start to drop they’ll go after him. Right now you don’t want to be accused of beating up on the new kid, especially since he’s an orphan.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Good point. 2012 will be a referendum on Obama… If Obama sucks and people know it, all we need is a conservative… Gov. whomever…. which actually helps someone like Governor Palin…. she won’t have to rehab her image… it will rehab itself.
BPD on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM
The ACORN recruitment for economic recovery plan?
econavenger on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM
john thune is tall. That guy looks like a model or something. I am a guy and I am comfortable in saying that. Thune just looks the part
ousoonerfan15 on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM
I really like her, but she added an s to impact when using it as a noun last week during the Greta interview. A couple of times. It’s a teeth-griding, awkward usage that I’d never heard before–except from some officious PR person.
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:15 PM
From what I got from the posts, after the speech as the President was leaving, he was signing autographs for the folks. Mr. Dave Rywall even thought it was goofy. I can go back an find it if you want.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 PM
The stimulus has allocated 1Billion for Summer Youths Jobs Program and the Youth age is up to 24 years old.
This is REALLY, REALLY scary.
TN Mom on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I also heard him say he will get rid of OLD COLD WAR WEAPONS THAT ARE NO LONGER USED!
I suppose that could be defined as all these missiles laying around in silos,,, in other words,, our nuclear arsenal!!!
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
When I was 18, that was called “joining the military”.
ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
If we are going to give free college away, is Obama going to pay off my student loans from back when college cost money to attend?
myrenovations on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I think he’s 6’10, but I may be wrong.
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
It’s time to raise the black flag. No quarter. The GOP has to get this into their skulls. This is a fight for the very survival of the US.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
‘hot mess’…finally something we can agree on, Death.
LEBA on February 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Ok, you just said you don’t know the guy. Well… get to know him, pay attention over the coming months, and I have the feeling you’ll change your mind. He’s a roll-up-your-sleeves-and-get-your-hands-dirty kind of guy. Not a “just words” delegator like little hussein.
Just pay attention over the coming weeks and months.
ErinF on February 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Now Ben Nelson is saying, “Yeah we have 9,000 earmarks in the upcoming omnibus bill but there were more earmarks in the last bill.”
Lovin’ the hope and change.
Bishop on February 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Ben Nelson looks like a little hobbit.
Mark1971 on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM
If that’s the worst thing we can say about her, that’s good. We are probably being protective, knowing that she will take heat for it. Overall I get a really good vibe from her. She strikes me as honest. There’s something you don’t get to say too often about a pol.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM
For who, I wonder? Actual congressmen? Their families? Random people who happen to be around?
(Sorry for not reading the whole thread, I came in at page 20, and before I could read it, we were up to 22.)
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Now, it’s called watching volcanoes.
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:19 PM
So, did the cameras show President Emanuel? How did he look? Did his puppet do OK?
rockmom on February 24, 2009 at 11:19 PM
So do we jump on the Thune bandwagon tonight? lol
goldeagle11 on February 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM
It’s time to raise the black flag. No quarter. The GOP has to get this into their skulls. This is a fight for the very survival of the US.
progressoverpeace on February 24, 2009 at 11:16 PM
No effin shiite. Quit with the idea that Ogabe is some dainty flower that needs some time to destroy the nation before we dare lay a hand on him.
If anything, we should be laying waste to his agenda right now, before we find ourselves stuck on Dunkirk beach, looking for a boat or two.
Bishop on February 24, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I believe Obama said in the speech that there were no earmarks in anything.
That’s kinda like how he said in it (I read it, didn’t watch it) that the mortage help wouldn’t be going to anyone who bought more house than they could afford.
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Why can’t any Conservative stand up and point out the Democratic social engineering policies that forced lending institutions to make the bad loans that caused this mess in the first place………….
……… name the names, and also point out that along with the Trillion dollar “Stimulus Bill”, all those failed policies are still in place?
We will not fix this until the government interference in the free market system is exposed and removed.
I don’t care who says it on a national stage……….
…………. if Mr. Teleprompter keeps saying
,”, at least a Conservative can say,
Seven Percent Solution on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
He was grinning at the end, I think.
INC on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
Yep,, and ya know,, that ol devil is in the details!! What might a good socialist require of youth to get the money??? What type of summer youth jobs would Mr Obama want to create??? We think of things like scooping ice cream,, car washes,, riding horses and life guarding,,,, but are those the kind of summer jobs a guy like,,, say,, Bill Ayers might be proud of???
One can only wonder.
What do the letters,, A C O R N spell???
Lets fund some summer community agitators!!!
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
When obama has taken your very last dollar, sent your little ones off to boot camp with thugs, tells your doctor you’re too old to merit medicine, allows ACORN to steal your house..
You’ll come crying for Hot Mess Jindal to save you!!
TN Mom on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 PM
I miss Hillary.
ouldbollix on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
If there was any doubt that Barry is completely incompetent and full of BS, his over-the-top rambling tonight erased it. What a pitiful person.
Christien on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
I think we all need to really read Teh One’s transcript. There was alot of scarey crap in that speech. Forget Jindal’s performance and Palin’s charisma and who will run in 2010. We need to focus on doing everything we can right now to stop this idiot sock puppet and his handlers from doing even 1/8 of what he talked about in this speech. Beat your congress people and your state and local governments with sticks if necessary. Get after the media like Fox or Conservative pundits to really evaluate and nit pick it apart. We do need to scare people, not about the economy, but about this grand plan. We are looking at a combination of the Great Society and the New Deal. And it ain’t pretty.
Deanna on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
No one was ever, ever trashed like Palin was. No one in the history of the whole entire world. It’s about around that time when I started hating the left.
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Normally only members of Congress, Justices and cabinet members are on the floor, guests are in the gallery. But occasionally they change that for special occasions. I don’t think the posters would have been surprised if it had been guests. But I am where you are, just reading the posts.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Seven – That is exactly what I yell at my TV!!!
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Technically,,, can you put an ear mark in one giant freaking mother of all ear marks??? Just technically speaking, mind you.
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I don’t recall reading that statement anywhere in this thread (at least in the last 100 posts or so :). Palin or Jindal or anyone else is the “next” Reagan. We need someone “like” or in the “mold” of Reagan.
davek70 on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Is that normal, for the president to sign autographs in such occasions?
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Right now, I wonder how many people in the country really, really care. I’d say, give it time, but by then it may be too late.
ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
I love her. I just hate when men and women parrot a usage that they pick up from morons trying to sound smarter than they are. She ought to hire a crack speech, grammar, and usage guru to follow her for a time and pick up on her mulligans. There’s actually a great business writing specialist in Seattle.
But you’re correct about the honesty. She’s American. She’s a leader. I saw someone write today that she doesn’t require a leader to be the smartest person in the roon. And that’s correct. We all have gifts. She’s a tough lady, and she has character and integrity and she’s smart enough. Not much esle is needed after that.
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Agreed, I notice that the MSM continues to say that Republicans are the party of no without bring forward any of their own ideas. We (including MSM) know that isn’t true. Time for Mr. Steele to spend some money on advertising. I still don’t think they can go after the President until some of the shiny new is off.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I would take Hillary in a heartbeat right now…
davek70 on February 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Alana -I do remember Bush signing some autograghs, I believe it was State of the Union speech.
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Is that normal, for the president to sign autographs in such occasions?
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Yes, most President’s have done that as well as take photos.
The difference with Ogabe is that he just signs it “Yours Truly, God.”
Bishop on February 24, 2009 at 11:27 PM
We CAN NOT let them re-write history and the cause of this problem………..
Seven Percent Solution on February 24, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Pres. Reagan had a really really bad debate with Carter first time out. The MSM talked like he was some doddering old fool that couldn’t possibly be CIC. Next time out he kicked @ss and took names. No looking back after that.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 PM
not really. Although Thune is a good guy and is VERY conservative. Who knows if he would even think about running for higher office.
ousoonerfan15 on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Democrats are all liars.
petunia on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 PM
It’s funny, a little over a year ago I was hoping that Obama would get the nomination, thinking he’d be easier to defeat.
ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Erinf,
I have a question…who propped Jindal to take the GOP official response? I thought that would’ve been handled by someone else.
Two things: One, I started to fall asleep towards the end of the speech, and two, the smirk on that biyatch Pelosi had a darn good Sealy spring on her seat cushion! Gosh he was not done talking on a bunch of segments and she just sprang up that seat and almost clapped on his face!!! (I took it as “Remember, that was MY idea!”)
ProudPalinFan on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
She’ll get it right, she has good instincts.
Cindy Munford on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Man you are on a roll tonight!
petunia on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
The president usually signs autographs after these joint session speeches. It’s a non-issue for me. Let’s stay focused on Obama driving our country over the cliff with his disastrous policy proposals.
common sensineer on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 PM
Michael Steele is comin up on Hannity. Hope he comes on strong cause all I got is change
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Steele is coming up. Wonder what he has to say. Now we have congress critters and Dems no less saying that there are earmarks in this bill. But oh we need them. I thought BO was all about no earmarks.
Brat4life on February 24, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Ok, Barry convinced me to return to college. I plan on majoring in Entitlements. Best school? Anyone?
Limerick on February 24, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Obama and the dems are there own worst enemy .They are starting to believe that they are on a devine mission and can do no wrong.They also think that most of the people in this country feel the same way as the people at Msnbc & Cnn.do.It.s going to be fun to watch them fall.I only hope the country can survive.
thmcbb on February 24, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Harvard
Brat4life on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM
JellyToast on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 PM
Deanna on February 24, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Check out americanthinker.com and search for Cloward & Pliven to see what we’re up against. Sorry I don’t know how to post link..
TN Mom on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Good… overconfidence and dismissiveness by the Matthewses and Maddows of the world can only help the loyal opposition right now. IMO Jindal didn’t kill or embarrass himself beyond redemption with his delivery (as his innate qualities were still on display), he merely struck a sour note tonight. By the time he’s running for higher office he will have talked and said so many other things, on so many other occasions, that this night will fade into insignificance (again, because he didn’t do anything *really* bone-headed tonight).
And if it is true that the Republican ‘DC handlers’ are responsible for messing with Bobby’s mojo, I hope the flak sh-tstorm this has caused, from all quarters — including Republicans and conservatives — will finally convince the Republican party to lay off these geniuses for good and find some new help pronto.
Before they can ruin any more opportunities for Palin or Jindal to speak candidly to a national audience.
(Heck, I’ll consider it a win for Republicans if tonight’s ‘dud’ speech accomplishes that little trick alone…)
RD on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Columbia, hand down Limerick!
conmo on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM
She seems so harmless now.
ouldbollix on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM
BuckeyeSam on February 24, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Nothing that cannot be fixed by people like that. She was born and raised with good town talk. These are things that we do in our daily lives, that don’t annoy us or our loved ones but a person that do not know us pick up on it very quickly. That is what makes us special, North, South, and in the Caribbean. :-D
ProudPalinFan on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM
I notice that smirk and thought her botox was failing her.
thomasaur on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM
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