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oldleprechaun on February 25, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Lobe on February 25, 2009 at 11:50 AM

DITTO!!!

I will of course acknowledge (and admire) Billy Graham for publicly praying in Jesus’ name for years.

As to the vetting, it exercises a dangerous level of control over the speech and religious freedoms of those delivering the invocations. Choose wisely- get a well-respected, noncontroversial religious leader, maybe have him pray earlier as noted above.

My initial thought was “maybe the vetting was a reaction to the racially-tinged prayer…” but apparently not. I guess that one passed the vetting? Or he changed it on them?

Look – this is simple. Wait until they actually ask for a change in a prayer, then examine what they asked to be changed and why they requested it. Then you might actually have a case.

When Christianity first began, Christian’s were routinely tortured, killed for sport, and fed to lions for goodness sakes! All for professing Christ’s name. How shameful is it now that those who supposedly represent the faith cannot even bring themselves to suffer a little public outrage for the sake of their saviour.

“Friendship Baptist Church
Where you can meet Jesus – your best friend ever !“, from the web page “Our Beliefs” @ http://www.friendshipbaptistchurch.com/

From “Citizen” magazine, March, 2009
“If you believe there’s a heaven and hell, and people could be going to hell,” he says, there’s no excuse for thinking, “Well, it’s not really worth telling them this because it would be socially awkward.” He boils the issue down to one question: “How much do you have to hate somebody to believe that everlasting life is possible, and not tell them that?”

The “he” in that quote is well known performer and atheist, Penn Jillette. Strange days indeed when an atheist is closer to the truth of Jesus than is a baptist pastor.

Did you know the White House is now vetting prayers?
Though invocations have long been commonplace at presidential inaugurations and certain events like graduations or religious services at which presidents are guests, the practice of commissioning…

So either you believe the bible or you don’t…if you don’t you aren’t a Christian, and if you do, then their is but one God in all the universe, heavens, earth, whereever…as defined by the bible.

right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM

You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?

Believers of several different religions can talk about “God” all day long and be in complete agreement with one another. The minute “Jesus” comes into the mix and all hell breaks lose (pun intended). The person and ministry of Jesus makes Christianity unique from all other belief systems.

Ace ODale on February 25, 2009 at 1:14 AM

Right. There is great power in the name of Jesus Christ. The name of Jesus offends people. Makes you wonder why one name causes such conflict? Hollywood uses Jesus’ name as a curse word all the time, rampantly. Ever notice that? Why don’t they ever say “Buddha” or “Oh Allah!” Think about that. It’s always the name of Jesus. Could it be that Satan, the power in this world, is offended by it because he knows the power in that name? He’s trying to smear it, ban it, silence it, use it as a curse word, compare it to dishonest politicians. I mean, if the name meant nothing why then is all this being done, furthermore, why can’t they destroy it? Answer: You cannot destroy the Truth. Never. And deep down people know the truth they just choose not to see it for a variety of reasons.

The word Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek Iesous, which in turn is the transliteration of the Hebrew Jeshua, or Joshua, or again Jehoshua, meaning “Jehovah is salvation. Yeshua is the original Aramaic proper name for Jesus the Nazarene.

Just a little more information for you, AP.

kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM

No “J” (separate letter for consonental “I”) in classical Latin — Indiana Iones made that mistake and almost fell through the floor as he tried to step on a nonexistent letter.

Which is why I don’t talk about God. I talk about Jesus. There’s no getting around the cross.

White House vetting prayers said before Obama events

If your an unbeliever (although I doubt there’s any real atheists out there) you must be thrilled that Obama is in the White House for the simple reason that he is not a Christian. Recently we’ve had a whole stack of bad atheists rise to the front. They’re trying to stop — they wanna stop people from praying in public, etc. Gay bishop and all, they must be pretty satisfied with Obama’s progress at this point.

Any questions?

baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Nope.

Dear Government, we pray that you will give us at least a crumb of bread, and in return we will do our best to forgive those of your friends who took from us most of our previous bread, as we forgive you for taking the remainder of our loaves and redistributing them to those who, by dint of their sex, sexual orientation, ethnicity, culture, or lack thereof due to having been downtrodden some years back, stand before us in line and surely deserve that bread far more than those of us who made it.

In the hope that we will at least have a crumb — verily, a basket of crumbs, to feed ourselves and our children, fresh from the your Table where those who are more deserving have already eaten. And some fishes too, but not too smelly, if that’s at all possible.

Amen.

unclesmrgol on February 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Too funny! I’m crying here! Best of the night even including Bishop’s great Drudge report comments on the Obama Speech thread! Great job in answering AP’s request for an atheist prayer.