Nuance: White House vetting prayers said before Obama events
posted at 5:32 pm on February 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Out: Vetting cabinet appointees for tax problems. In: Vetting preachers for Jesus problems! No wonder Daschle slipped through the cracks.
Sue, atheists. Sue like the wind.
Though invocations have long been commonplace at presidential inaugurations and certain events like graduations or religious services at which presidents are guests, the practice of commissioning and vetting prayers for presidential rallies is unprecedented in modern history, according to religion and politics experts…
“If a similar thing had been done by President Bush’s White House, I guarantee you there would have been a lot of people crying foul,” says Bill Wichterman, deputy director of the Office of Public Liaison under President George W. Bush. “Democrats can do this with immunity, but when Republicans do it, it becomes controversial.”…
[M]any church/state experts are unfamiliar with the program. “The only thing worse than having these prayers in the first place is to have them vetted, because it entangles the White House in core theological matters,” Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said upon learning of the Obama invocations…
James Bing, the pastor of the Friendship Baptist Church in Fort Myers, Fla., said he chose to self-censor his prayer. “For some strange reason, the word Jesus is like pouring gasoline on fire for some people in this country,” he said. “You learn how to work around that.”
Do you have to learn how to work around it? Rick Warren invoked Jesus at the inauguration — albeit after sprinkling in prayers from Judaism and Islam to make the affair safely ecumenical. I wonder now if that was at The One’s insistence. It’s probably safe to say, at least, that the gay Episcopal bishop didn’t need to be cajoled to reduce his rhetoric to the warm mush of “the God of our many understandings.” Exit question: Who’s up for seeing Hitchens and his lawyer roll into court with a complaint to knock this one out of the park, huh? Come on. Common ground at last!
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A Lamb goes uncomplaining forth
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM
How ’bout someone in power vetting Present Obama, i.e., his Constitutional status?
No? Didn’t think so. Who cares if the captain of the ship may be unfit for command. You’re a racist and un-American if you don’t want to go down with him.
Now, Ohio plumbers on the other hand…
Dr. ZhivBlago on February 24, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I would really like to know how the evidence is on the side of the atheist, please do tell.
Be_Aware on February 24, 2009 at 6:38 PM
What I find most revolting is the fact that Obama has not sought (not even once) to separate or distance himself from these images. Nor has he sought to discourage his followers from preseneting him in images that compare him to Jesus. The man’s got a hard on for himself and nobody else.
His fall will be great. I wonder if he’ll get a nose bleed on his way down from Barackopolis.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Seems like a waste of time, as I’d imagine you believe all prayers are.
Technically I Am if you want to go back far enough, but that would still be the English translation.
Esthier on February 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM
http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/a/lambgoes.htm
Ooops. My 6:37 comment meant to link this.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 6:42 PM
::wince::
Rae on February 24, 2009 at 6:42 PM
That’s the Father.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
1000% Amen.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
To expand on baldi’s answer:
The New Testament was written in koine (common) Greek (with a few Aramaic phrases).
INC on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Thank you! that’s what I meant exactly and since we were talking about the vetting, I didn’t think it was necessary to point that out. ( I can’t believe how many people misinterpreted that…sheesh.)
Just to be clear.
Having prayers at a state function does not violate the separation of church and state.
Telling your invited guests what to say or not say in their prayer at same state event clearly is.
More importantly, it’s ridiculously anal, PC, stupid and retarded. Like our gov’t doesn’t have better things to do.
tlclark on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
I made the mistake of living in New Mexico and when I moved, they had to send a smoke signal to get my internet up and running again. But, alas, I am here.
HornetSting on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
The word Jesus is the Latin form of the Greek Iesous, which in turn is the transliteration of the Hebrew Jeshua, or Joshua, or again Jehoshua, meaning “Jehovah is salvation. Yeshua is the original Aramaic proper name for Jesus the Nazarene.
Just a little more information for you, AP.
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Personally, I’m thinking Jesus is filling up some gas tanks over in the Middle East.
They are taking our Constitution and our Culture from us. In just over 30 days.
Make. It. Stop.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 6:47 PM
I’m guessing that a lapsed Catholic boy like our Allahpundit already knew these things.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:49 PM
After ban, military chaplains free to pray “in Jesus’ name”
Wethal on February 24, 2009 at 6:51 PM
“I Am” is the Name in the Bible and Torah, for Jews and Christians. The Beginning and the End.
L
letget on February 24, 2009 at 6:52 PM
John 1:1-8 (New King James Version)
John 1
The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 6:52 PM
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Yeah, probably. But I enjoyed proclaiming Him in a post.
My question remains. If Obama attended a Christian church for 20 years, why is he allergic to the name of Jesus being said in pryaers?
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Because it’s a “Christian” church.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Oh, sure. That would be just lovely. No two invocations would be alike. AllahPundit could pray to the Goddess KP or maybe to a Japanese fembot, Hitchens could pray to a bottle of alcohol, Dawkins could pray to the space aliens that seeded the planet, the Darwinists could pray to the most evolved specimen on earth, and on and on ad nauseum.
My collie says:
CyberCipher on February 24, 2009 at 6:56 PM
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Forgive me if this is insensitive, but do Black Theology Churches not proclaim Jesus in their services?
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 6:57 PM
With all due respect, please see John 8:58.
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 6:57 PM
“The king’s heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.” (Proverbs 21:1)
But then, we are the change we’ve been waiting for, so I guess we don’t need the help.
spmat on February 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM
However, if he’s forgotten, we’re happy to remind him!
INC on February 24, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Darkness cannot tolerate light…it is as simple as that.
2,000 years ago, some people had the same problem…it is difficult for shameful to speak of love…the liars to speak of the truth…the attacker to look in the eye of the victim…wrong turns away from right…and dark from light.
So much more…
People not in the faith, have so much to fear…the only way to justify their life is to abhor Jesus, hate Him, build up a total disgust for Him…He is their enemy, and the enemy of all who won’t believe.
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 7:00 PM
One and the same.
I was thinking you’d quote the first chapter of John, but that is obviously much more direct.
Esthier on February 24, 2009 at 7:02 PM
That’s exactly why they picked up stones to throw at Jesus. They recognized that He was saying He was God.
INC on February 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Yes, but don’t you think I AM as a title could easily be relegated to the Father (as his name), even though the semantic meaning of the phrase could be just as easily ascribed to the Son (as his nature)?
spmat on February 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM
I quoted it, just upstream.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:05 PM
No. Those who heard Him knew exactly what He was saying. Look at the context:
INC on February 24, 2009 at 7:06 PM
This was researched pretty heavily back when the nature of TUCC (Obama’s church) was revealed. BLT set forth a black Jesus murdered by white Romans. Nothing about Resurrection and the only salvation in God’s vengeance upon the white race. IOW it’s a Jesus which no Christian would recognize; it’s the Nation of Islam with a Christ coating, IMO.
Atheists don’t bother me–at least they are honest. Those who pervert the character of Jesus, worship that and lead others to do so, do, however. They anger me greatly.
BTW, I knew nothing about BLT until last year; only that strains of it has seeped into some theology preached in some pulpits with majority black congregations.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:07 PM
If you think about it, hat’s not saying anything different than what I said. :-)
But in the natural, it’s the Father. (Don’t forget: the Bible is a narrative.)
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Wow. Boy, when Jesus comes back, one side or the other is going to be in for a massive letdown.
genso on February 24, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Exactly the Scripture I pray for Obama almost every day. Lord turn his heart to You, and hard right in Jesus name. Amen.
Btw, reminds me of a billboard I saw in MO —
The Way to Heaven: Go to the cross road, turn to the right, go straight.
Christian Conservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:13 PM
I believe Black Liberation Theology is Marxism hijacking some Christian words and redefining them. I think it had its roots back in the 60s (?) along with other radical movements. It’s been a long time since I read any of its tenets, but that’s what I recall.
INC on February 24, 2009 at 7:14 PM
King, that wasn’t a church, it was a toilet and someone forgot to flush. I believe Obama is allergic to any sort of Christianity. Just saying.
HornetSting on February 24, 2009 at 7:14 PM
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Yes, but don’t you think I AM as a title could easily be relegated to the Father (as his name), even though the semantic meaning of the phrase could be just as easily ascribed to the Son (as his nature)?
spmat on February 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 7:15 PM
Also: Yeshua means “salvation”; Yahweh means “I am.” (We were talking about the meaning of Jesus’ name and not about the metaphysics of things.)
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Actually his original name cannot be pronounced, no one knows how to say it. It has always been best described as the sound of the wind.
But…
Ego Eimi, is the transliteration of I Am …The reference to God stating that He is the one and only. John 8:24 (or 13:19, or 18:5-6) those are absolute, John 8:58 is debated whether it is a perfect tense, still a reference, but debated.
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 7:20 PM
From what I can tell, the Black Lib Theology version of Jesus doesn’t come back.
The black version of Liberation Theology was created by James Cone. See his Black Theology and Black Power. Get it from the library.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:22 PM
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM
ahem…Thank God.
genso on February 24, 2009 at 7:26 PM
Isn’t Black Liberation Theology sorta’ like the libcrap social gospel BS? What is wrong with The Gospel of Christ?
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Right, “I and my father are one.” I acknowledged that in stating that I AM could be applied to Jesus in a semantic sense as an expression of his nature, but I don’t think it’s inaccurate to say the I AM is the name or title of the Father. Yes, Jesus was fully divine and fully human, but he is separate and distinct from the Father in the community of the trinity while being one with the Father in unity of the trinity. It is in that sense that I am drawing the distinction between I AM being the title of the Father (as a condition of uniqueness) while the fullness of the meaning of the phrase can be applied to the Son.
Eh, I don’t think we disagree.
spmat on February 24, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Just from the title, it looks like it has no “Black” or “Liberation” in it.
genso on February 24, 2009 at 7:29 PM
Athanasian Creed
Whoever will be saved shall, above all else,
hold the catholic faith.
Which faith, except everyone keeps whole and undefiled,
without doubt he will perish eternally.
And the catholic faith is this,
that we worship one God in three persons
and three persons in one God,
neither confusing the persons
nor dividing the substance.
For there is one person of the Father,
another of the Son,
and another of the Holy Spirit.
But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one:
the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.
Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit.
The Father uncreated,
the Son uncreated,
and the Holy Spirit uncreated.
The Father incomprehensible,
the Son incomprehensible,
and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.
The Father eternal,
the Son eternal,
and the Holy Spirit eternal.
And yet there are not three eternals
but one eternal.
As there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensibles
but one uncreated and one incomprehensible.
So likewise the Father is almighty,
the Son almighty,
and the Holy Spirit almighty.
And yet they are not three almighties
but one almighty.
So the Father is God,
the Son is God,
and the Holy Spirit is God.
And yet there are not three gods;
but one God.
So likewise the Father is Lord,
the Son Lord,
and the Holy Spirit Lord.
And yet they are not three lords
but one Lord.
For as we are compelled by the Christian truth to acknowledge every person by himself
to be both God and Lord,
So we cannot by the catholic faith
say that there are three Gods or three Lords.
The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten.
The Son is of the Father alone, not made nor created;
but begotten.
The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son, neither made nor created nor begotten
but proceeding.
So there is one Father, not three Fathers;
one Son, not three Sons;
one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.
And in this trinity none is before or after another;
none is greater or less than another;
But the whole three persons
are coeternal together and coequal,
so that in all things, as is aforesaid,
the Unity in Trinity
and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshiped..
He, therefore, that will be saved is compelled thus to think of the Trinity.
Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation
that he also believe faithfully the incarnation
of our Lord Jesus Christ.
For the right faith is
that we believe and confess
that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God,
is God and man;
God of the substance of the Father,
begotten before the worlds;
and man of the substance of his mother,
born in the world;
Perfect God and perfect man,
of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting.
Equal to the Father as touching his Godhead,
and inferior to the Father as touching his manhood;
Who, although he is God and man,
yet he is not two but one Christ.
One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh,
but by taking the manhood into God;.
One altogether,
not by confusion of substance,
but by unity of person.
For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man,
so God and man is one Christ;
Who suffered for our salvation;
descended into hell;
rose again the third day from the dead.
He ascended into heaven;
he sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty,
from whence he will come to judge the living and the dead.
At whose coming all men will rise again with their bodies
and will give an account of their own works.
And they that have done good will go into life everlasting;
and they that have done evil,
into everlasting fire.
This is the catholic faith which
except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Any true pastor or preacher would not “work around” the name of Jesus during ANY prayer at ANY time, for anyone. True believers simply do not hesitate to endure ridicule, scorn or heckling when invoking the name of the Lord and Savior. I am sorry to get “touchie feelie” guys and gals, about all this. But I will not dance around the fact that true faith is unyielding and bold and hesitant faith is a morbid mockery.
Ris4victory on February 24, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Not on the theology, anyway. Thanks.
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Black Panthers. That’s Black Theology.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 7:37 PM
BTW: I just read the Book of Joel. Never read it before. I usually stick with the major books in the NT.
It’s… well. Enlightening.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Barry, who art in D.C.,
Hallowed be Thy Stimulus,
Thy Hopen come,
Thy Change be done,
On Bitterclingers,
As it is in Chi-town,
Give us this day our daily bailout,
And forgive Santelli,
Wherever he may live,
Lead us not into Depression,
But deliver us from Sarah,
For Thine is the Executive,
And the Legislative,
And, hopefully, the Judicial,
Forever and ever,
Yes we can!
Christien on February 24, 2009 at 7:39 PM
Is that a picture of Obama praying to himself?
Alana on February 24, 2009 at 7:40 PM
REMEMBER”
OBAMA IS BARELY A CHRISTIAN: HIS CHURCH – THE ONLY CHURCH HE HAS EVER BELONGED TO – IS A BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY CHURCH.
IT HAS MORE IN COMMON WITH FARRAKHAN THAN ST. PAUL.
reliapundit on February 24, 2009 at 7:41 PM
I think that’s more of a oh holy shiite look, IMHO.
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 7:41 PM
No worries.
That whole forgiveness thing is tough, isn’t it? Some don’t even want to bother trying.
James Cone:
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Oye. I’m off this thread. As if things aren’t bad enough where I’m at right now (read…locationville), the last thing we need is religious debate amongst those of us who are united on so many other fronts and issues.
Let’s just suffice it to say: “Barry Ain’t No Messiah and I Ain’t Gone Be One of Its Followers, and No, Asshole. No. You. Can’t. And, You. Won’t”.
Can we get a collective AMEN bruthas and sistahs?
Key West Reader on February 24, 2009 at 7:45 PM
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:42 PM
To quote the Church Lady:
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM
Tell it Brutha!
genso on February 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
The founder of our president’s religion.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
It’s the Wright thing to do!
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on February 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I always tend to stop, drop, and roll in the religion threads, but I just had to say that is a wonderfully apt metaphor you dropped in there. Bravo, or, brava, depending on your gender.
austinnelly on February 24, 2009 at 8:03 PM
You must be new here. This is actually one of the more civil religious threads (if you’ll pardon the pun). I stay far away from evolution/ID threads because they are brutal and because the issue does not affect humankind’s well-being in the present or future one little bit.
Evo/ID threads are like cock-fights–pissin’ matches just for the sake of having one.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 8:03 PM
I do appreciate AP’s Three Amigos reference…
rcl on February 24, 2009 at 8:04 PM
The founder of our president’s religion.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Nothing like going to a church for 20 years that preaches peace and tolerance for others. /sarc off
kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Who said that?
a. Jesus
b. Mohammed
c. Buddha
d. Moses
e. Joe Biden
If the answer is not obvious they’re waiting for you back at Huffpo.
Mojave Mark on February 24, 2009 at 8:17 PM
I wish not offend, but.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus!
Didn’t work the same way as the movie “Beetlejuice”, sorry.
Pretty good for a Jew huh? And I’m not the least bit offended
M-14 2go on February 24, 2009 at 8:26 PM
AP, I have had all of your insulting, smart aleck, hit-generating assaults on my faith that I care to tolerate. I am moving away from Hot Air now and I urge Christians to do the same. AP is purposely trying to inflame this issue to generate hits, and money. It is insane to literally pay someone to insult you. On the net your time is money, and your clicks pay his bills.
Sorry Ed, I think you are a better specimen, but I just can’t take the BS from this self-righteous nerd anymore. He is starting to make Obama sound smart.
MikeA on February 24, 2009 at 8:37 PM
The more proper statement is that you don’t believe the bible in that instance…it has more to do with transliteration then it does theology.
In seven of the 17 (I think 17) instances of using I Am (ego eimi) it is absolute tens,he is God, the one and only, the other are perfect tense and is referencing God.
So in at least 7 instances in John (and some in Matt and of course Isiah) it is an absolute statement that Jesus is God, the Ego Eimi…in absolute reference to the Septuagint texts.
So either you believe the bible or you don’t…if you don’t you aren’t a Christian, and if you do, then their is but one God in all the universe, heavens, earth, whereever…as defined by the bible.
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM
That’s your pride talking.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM
This is disgraceful.
CP on February 24, 2009 at 8:47 PM
As a Christian you know that dark can’t stand the light…AP has to be flippant, and insulting. If he wasn’t he would have to face the truth. Best just attack and make fun, then you never have to face facts.
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Well, he was a Jew…so you have that going for you (in reference to Caddy Shack and Bill Murray).
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM
MikeA on February 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM
That Biden has a way worth words…come on Lazurus, stand up and take a bow, oh gee, sorry, didn’t know you were dead…
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Well, there is one Christian I don’t want in my foxhole…runs at the first bit of heat…and the cock has not crowed three times yet…
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Are you daft? This is AP’s entire claim to fame. And I suspect your only reason for the post is that you agree with him.
MikeA on February 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Read my posts you foolish little man…starting at 7 pm…
Feels like a Christian to accuse someone of something they aren’t?
What does the bible say about false accusations?
right2bright on February 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Love my Lutheran Brethren.
OmahaConservative on February 24, 2009 at 9:09 PM
OK, I did and I appologize for my initial reaction to your attack on me. But I am done with AP and because of AP, Hot Air. And while we are at it, even I didn’t call AP and fool. To do so is a direct violation of scripture.
MikeA on February 24, 2009 at 9:10 PM
MikeA: Do what you feel best. If it is better for you to avoid this place, that is your decision, and we should all respect it.
I am sure that you also respect us for staying and discussing the issue with those who do not share our faith.
Consider the sisters Mary and Martha. You are choosing a path more like Mary (the contemplative) than Martha (the worker). Both are useful, and and both are necessary.
As regards to the topic here… I wonder if AP has read Kreeft (www.peterkreeft.com) or other Christian apologists. I fail to see how one can read their writings and believe that reason is opposed to faith.
Scott H on February 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM
You lost me. I was saying we agreed on the theology. Or have I misunderstood?
tgharris on February 24, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Winning comment of the thread.
jimmy2shoes on February 24, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Not it’s not.
And think you need to dial it down. If you’re going to start slinging accusations you ought to a least try to be correct.
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM
+2
baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Dear Government, we pray that you will give us at least a crumb of bread, and in return we will do our best to forgive those of your friends who took from us most of our previous bread, as we forgive you for taking the remainder of our loaves and redistributing them to those who, by dint of their sex, sexual orientation, ethnicity, culture, or lack thereof due to having been downtrodden some years back, stand before us in line and surely deserve that bread far more than those of us who made it.
In the hope that we will at least have a crumb — verily, a basket of crumbs, to feed ourselves and our children, fresh from the your Table where those who are more deserving have already eaten. And some fishes too, but not too smelly, if that’s at all possible.
Amen.
unclesmrgol on February 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Yeshua is a Hebrew name, Jesus is simply the Greek transliteration of Yeshua.
jimmy2shoes on February 24, 2009 at 10:09 PM
It’s Joshua really but differentiated ’cause it’s Jesus. Just like Lucifer is “Morning Star” but since Morning Star is one of the titles of Christ it’s rendered “Lucifer” in the English translation.
Mojave Mark on February 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Not to matter. Every arrogant Democrat, Republican, athiest, Christian Muslim, liberal conservative, all mankind or whatever will one day bow on their knees and utter the Name…Jesus the Lord.
wepeople on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Too funny! I’m crying here! Best of the night even including Bishop’s great Drudge report comments on the Obama Speech thread! Great job in answering AP’s request for an atheist prayer.
Christian Conservative on February 25, 2009 at 12:31 AM
Nope.
Jaibones on February 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
If your an unbeliever (although I doubt there’s any real atheists out there) you must be thrilled that Obama is in the White House for the simple reason that he is not a Christian. Recently we’ve had a whole stack of bad atheists rise to the front. They’re trying to stop — they wanna stop people from praying in public, etc. Gay bishop and all, they must be pretty satisfied with Obama’s progress at this point.
apacalyps on February 25, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Believers of several different religions can talk about “God” all day long and be in complete agreement with one another. The minute “Jesus” comes into the mix and all hell breaks lose (pun intended). The person and ministry of Jesus makes Christianity unique from all other belief systems.
Which is why I don’t talk about God. I talk about Jesus. There’s no getting around the cross.
Ace ODale on February 25, 2009 at 1:14 AM
No “J” (separate letter for consonental “I”) in classical Latin — Indiana Iones made that mistake and almost fell through the floor as he tried to step on a nonexistent letter.
unclesmrgol on February 25, 2009 at 1:31 AM
Right. There is great power in the name of Jesus Christ. The name of Jesus offends people. Makes you wonder why one name causes such conflict? Hollywood uses Jesus’ name as a curse word all the time, rampantly. Ever notice that? Why don’t they ever say “Buddha” or “Oh Allah!” Think about that. It’s always the name of Jesus. Could it be that Satan, the power in this world, is offended by it because he knows the power in that name? He’s trying to smear it, ban it, silence it, use it as a curse word, compare it to dishonest politicians. I mean, if the name meant nothing why then is all this being done, furthermore, why can’t they destroy it? Answer: You cannot destroy the Truth. Never. And deep down people know the truth they just choose not to see it for a variety of reasons.
apacalyps on February 25, 2009 at 2:04 AM
You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead?
TMK on February 25, 2009 at 4:28 AM
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