Video: Jindal explains fiscal responsibility at Obama summit

posted at 5:50 pm on February 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Want to know why Republicans are so high on Bobby Jindal?  Watch him take two minutes to stake out the kind of economic policy territory that the GOP couldn’t find with both hands and a flashlight in two successive national elections:

Jindal sounds poised, informed, and reasonable while eviscerating the Porkulus bill. Instead of working explicitly from a philosophical point of view, he rattles off the facts of Porkulus to establish the basis for his fiscal conservatism. In doing so, Jindal enjoys much more credibility as a critic of Obama’s economic plans — and forces Obama to defend his plans on the specifics rather than Chicken Little diatribes.

Can Jindal maintain this poise and eloquence for the next four years and become the voice of the loyal opposition? If so, I can’t wait for 2012.


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Barring that scenario, I don’t think she’ll be a terribly strong debater. Jindal and Romney will eat her lunch, as might Obama if they let Biden pinch hit for him.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 12:11 AM

I wouldn’t underestimate Sarah Palin. As a one-month neophyte on the national stage, and after having been pretty thoroughly slimed during that one month, she bested dust-farting veteran Joe Biden in their debate, in the opinion of most candid observers.

ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 12:19 AM

I had to double check who wrote that. And, oh, it was Ed.

Heh. Me too.

Phoenician on February 24, 2009 at 12:39 AM

Why should there be a split between those who like Palin and those who like Jindal? We do need all the conservatives with executive experience we can get.

And as for those who are on some kick about the stupid, pointless and boring controversy regarding evolution versus intelligent design, have you forgotten that we have an adherent to Black Liberation Theology in the White House? If you want to spin your wheels about evolution/ID, that’s your prerogative. But if I were you–especially if you’re white–I’d worry about far more dangerous ideologies.

baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 12:46 AM

…have you forgotten that we have an adherent to Black Liberation Theology in the White House? …if I were you–especially if you’re white–I’d worry about far more dangerous ideologies.

baldilocks on February 24, 2009 at 12:46 AM

Couldn’t have said it any better. We need leadership that is sorely lacking in the Republican party. The sort of leadership we need is consistently rejected by the Republican party. We’d better start thinking about what it means to be conservative instead.

gryphon202 on February 24, 2009 at 12:53 AM

jindal is an impressive speaker. Again though at times he sounds too much like a college professor. That wont work very well on the campaign trail. He needs to get some real charisma if he hopes to be a viable national candidate. It ie easier to brush up on the issues and have a more firm grip on them that it is to gain a level of high charisma. This is why I still like Palin more.

ousoonerfan15 on February 23, 2009 at 5:56 PM

America is about to get all the charisma it can handle and still have someone who will make matter worse in this country. Hopefully by 2012 America will have had it’s fill on the “cult of personality” and actually vote for someone who knows what the f**k they’re doing. As of now, Jindal seems to have a pretty good grasp of the economic reality this nation is in and hopefully has some common sense, responsible and fiscally conservative answers to help lift us out.

Yakko77 on February 24, 2009 at 1:15 AM

I have to echo Baldilocks (1st sentence, anyway) I absolutely love both Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal. We are really lucky to have them, and a few others (Cantor, for example). I have no patience or sympathy with idiots who call themselves republicans and insist on pushing one of these fine people by putting down the others.

Grow up!

materialist on February 24, 2009 at 1:31 AM

Jindal rubs all the right people the wrong way. Good man.

Christien on February 24, 2009 at 1:37 AM

ddrintn on February 24, 2009 at 12:19 AM

She did fine for a political neophyte, but not well for the Vice Presidential candidate on the Republican ticket. How many people let Romney’s 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy slide just because it was his first political debate ever, not even a national one? Obviously not enough to get him the nomination this time.

To hear people talk about her debating skills, she should have served Biden his own head on a platter.

Sarah Palin had the truth on her side, but didn’t always seem aware of it. She let Biden get by with lots of made up facts, possibly because she didn’t know enough about the issues discussed to point out when he was lying.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 1:53 AM

She did fine for a political neophyte, but not well for the Vice Presidential candidate on the Republican ticket.

By nearly all accounts, Sarah Palin won the Vice Presidential debate against the Democratic VP nominee.

She let Biden get by with lots of made up facts, possibly because she didn’t know enough about the issues discussed to point out when he was lying.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 1:53 AM

There is nothing in the transcripts, which can be easily linked and quoted, that would corroborate your assertion.

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM

America is about to get all the charisma it can handle and still have someone who will make matter worse in this country. Hopefully by 2012 America will have had it’s fill on the “cult of personality” and actually vote for someone who knows what the f**k they’re doing. As of now, Jindal seems to have a pretty good grasp of the economic reality this nation is in and hopefully has some common sense, responsible and fiscally conservative answers to help lift us out.

Yakko77 on February 24, 2009 at 1:15 AM

Jindal is a good conservative Governor, and I applaud this principled stance on the spendulous. But let’s be real here about what this bill was… the Democratic party financing future elections with taxpayer money by rewarding all their loyal activists, lobbyists and donors. White House has not stopped running for 2012. You thought the media and ACORN were corrupt and unruly this year? They’re on steroids now. You will need STAR POWER, a good ground game, a polished candidate ready for the toughest and most uneven campaign of all time, and they will need loyal supporters who will volunteer, donate and GOTV.

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 2:19 AM

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM

Hint: Skip to the foreign policy segment.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 2:21 AM

There is a lot to like about Governor Jindal, and I do. But I believe Ed is talking him up just because he’s not Sarah Palin. I think I know what AP’s problem is, and he should be made to pay for his own psychological treatment for it, but I’m not quite sure why Ed is so down on her. Personally, I’d be happy to support Palin/Jindal or Jindal/Palin at this point as either combination would be heaven-sent to oppose Ogabe. No doubt the MSM will try to tell us that the Republicans only hope in 2012 is one of the three stooges (Specter, Snowe, Collins) or maybe a stealth liberal like Graham. Somehow, we have to devise a means to counter that strategy.

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 5:31 AM

think I know what AP’s problem is, and he should be made to pay for his own psychological treatment for it, but I’m not quite sure why Ed is so down on her. .

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 5:31 AM

So re-education camps for the ones not gaga over Palin?

a polished candidate ready for the toughest and most uneven campaign of all time
chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 2:19 AM

Didn’t Palin just whiff big time in trying to prove that?

Bradky on February 24, 2009 at 5:39 AM

Agree with Baldilocks. Don’t need to hate Jindal to love Palin, or vice-versa. That’s what primaries are for, so send your cash to the one you love and tell your friends, but after the convention fight fight fight like hell against the borg.

silverfox on February 24, 2009 at 5:40 AM

And by The Borg I mean the modern Democrat Party.

silverfox on February 24, 2009 at 5:45 AM

And by The Borg I mean the modern Democrat Party.

silverfox on February 24, 2009 at 5:45 AM

haha… I like it! Just one small change (pun intended):
Oborgs!

Glenn Jericho on February 24, 2009 at 6:01 AM

Please people, let’s forget Sarah Palin. … She needs to do interviews with serious political journalists.

Chekote on February 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM

There are no serious political journalists. Just serious political hacks pretending to be journalists. We can’t let the so-called media select our candidate. Didn’t they select John McCain?

FuriousAmerican on February 24, 2009 at 6:04 AM

There are no serious political journalists. Just serious political hacks pretending to be journalists. We can’t let the so-called media select our candidate. Didn’t they select John McCain?

FuriousAmerican

Yes they did, but we let them so it’s still our fault and our failure. Can we resolve not to repeat?

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 6:29 AM

Now if only he could let go of this crap about teaching creationism/unintelligent design in the classroom, he could get some real traction.

blish on February 24, 2009 at 7:08 AM

Bobby Jindal “savior” for the conservative movement. Jindal can win the primary but no way he gets 51% in the general. You can’t believe in exorcism and intelligent design and get elected president. Unless the US looks like scenes from Mad Max in 2012, Obama will stomp whatever cannon fodder Rush puts forward.

athensboy on February 24, 2009 at 7:15 AM

I wasn’t aware of the exorcism, but he lost me over intelligent design.

backwoods conservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:26 AM

How refreshing to have a principled leader speak clearly and directly to the issues, as opposed to our hemming-and-hawing president who has to egg shell his way through practically every question. Ater four years of Obama both Jindal and Palin will be able to tear this guy apart.

Also, Jindal may be the only politician who has actually read the atrocity of a stimulus bill.

EMD on February 24, 2009 at 7:40 AM

Jindal is absolutely brilliant, nothing shallow about him.

FLAG DAY

We want our Constitutional Government, not Socialism!

NO MORE OBAMA NATIONAL BANKRUPTCY

maverick muse on February 24, 2009 at 7:51 AM

By their fruits will ye know them, 7:15.

maverick muse on February 24, 2009 at 7:56 AM

Please people, let’s forget Sarah Palin. … She needs to do interviews with serious political journalists.

Chekote on February 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Enlighten me- name names.

anniekc on February 24, 2009 at 8:00 AM

Obama will stomp whatever cannon fodder Rush puts forward.
athensboy on February

You still don’t get it. If Rush picked our candidates why did we end up with McLame? Personally, if Jindal (or Palin) believed that Mars Attacks was a documentary, I’d pick him (or her) over your messiah in a heartbeat on economic principles alone. As it is, they know the difference between fantasy and reality, which is why you simply can’t relate to them.

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM

Great job Mr Jindal… Jindal / Palin 2012, but 1st….

First we have got to start getting the message out… Polls show that most Americans think The Messiah is doing a good job as PotUS… Holy BLEEP!?! WTF!?! How could this be after the first four weeks of HELL and the radical lurch and rush to the far, far left and Socialisam???? Have we come this far left in America???? Is Conservatisam dead????

The Messiah lies right tou our faces, his Porkulous is full of payoffs to Liberals and radicals and noone calls him on his lies of no prok, no earmarks… The MSM covers his butt and we are left with an ill-informed populace that actualy thinks this idiot is doing good…

Talk of revolution is futile with noone leading…

Mark Garnett on February 24, 2009 at 8:07 AM

Why should there be a split between those who like Palin and those who like Jindal? We do need all the conservatives with executive experience we can get.

In a year when a bunch of moderates were pretending to be conservatives, we latched onto the only thing out there that appeared to be the genuine article… Sarah Palin… but when you remove that lens, she was terrible. She is not particularly articulate and she seemed to be obsessed with “the narrative.”

Watching her make lunch as she was being interviewed by Greta on On the Record was painful. It was such a canned interview, very non-inspiring. Bristol Palin’s recent idiotic interview didn’t help matters.

I soured on her by November and I have no confidence that she can make the case for conservatism. Great to have her as a GOP Governor and she’s fine as part of the team… but the party needs an articulate spokesperson… I’m very impressed with Jindal at this point.

mankai on February 24, 2009 at 8:16 AM

Mark Garnett

I don’t know if America is lurching left or being pulled and is too lazy to resist right now. Conservatism is not dead, it’s just being ignored or ridiculed by Obamatrons in the MSM.
Revolution is a big concept with varied meanings. But you are right in your contention that, without leadership, talk is nothing but the grumbling of discontent. Not even a speed bump on the road to socialist Disneyland.

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Here’s my two cents:
I love Palin, found her to be a breath of fresh air when she was tapped for VP. Having said that, I feel Jindal articulates the conservative message much more effectively. I am proud to have both of them in the republican arena and would not dream of sacrificing either for the other – nor should anyone who calls themselves a conservative. We need all the talent we can get.

zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM

The Party of Stupid Illustrated:

Jindal will never win after signing the creationism bill in his state. The Dem’s will be delighted to have the GOP run him. It’s a win for the Dem’s in 2012. Better wake up GOP.
Jed1899 on February 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM

There are a dozen solid reasons to oppose Obama but find one reason not to support Jindal and he’s toast.

Basilsbest on February 24, 2009 at 8:22 AM

Bobby Jindal “savior” for the conservative movement. Jindal can win the primary but no way he gets 51% in the general. You can’t believe in exorcism and intelligent design and get elected president. Unless the US looks like scenes from Mad Max in 2012, Obama will stomp whatever cannon fodder Rush puts forward.

athensboy on February 24, 2009 at 7:15 AM

Ummm… the Catholic church believes in exorcism.

I think the country will more closely resemble Mad Max in 2012 than we care to think.

Oink on February 24, 2009 at 8:24 AM

OTOH, The Party Of Intelligence Illustrated

Here’s my two cents:
I love Palin, found her to be a breath of fresh air when she was tapped for VP. Having said that, I feel Jindal articulates the conservative message much more effectively. I am proud to have both of them in the republican arena and would not dream of sacrificing either for the other – nor should anyone who calls themselves a conservative. We need all the talent we can get.zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM

Basilsbest on February 24, 2009 at 8:25 AM

I’m a Jindal fan and would love to have him as our President, but I’m not sure why Ed was so effusive over this statement. It wasn’t that great/different. Ed’s already picked his guy. Nothing wrong with that; just an observation.

Another observation: Does it look like there’s room for another person in Jindal’s suit? Somebody feed that man or there will be nothing left in 2012.

pugwriter on February 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM

Jindal running a 4 year campaign for president? Great.

e-pirate on February 24, 2009 at 8:32 AM

I’m a Jindal fan and would love to have him as our President, but I’m not sure why Ed was so effusive over this statement. It wasn’t that great/different. Ed’s already picked his guy. Nothing wrong with that; just an observation.

Another observation: Does it look like there’s room for another person in Jindal’s suit? Somebody feed that man or there will be nothing left in 2012.

pugwriter on February 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM

You’re a Jindal fan? With fans like that, who needs liberals?

zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:34 AM

e-pirate on February 24, 2009 at 8:32 AM

Mr. President campaigned all his life for this job. He continues campaigning to this very second. I wish he would stop campaigning and actually be a President.

kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM

e-pirate on February 24, 2009 at 8:32 AM

Mr. President campaigned all his life for this job. He continues campaigning to this very second. I wish he would stop campaigning and actually be a President.

kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM

Careful what you wish for, as they say…

zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:38 AM

* Obama: Stimulus passage is a ‘major milestone’ Play Video Video:Obama: Stimulus passage is a ‘major milestone’ AP
* Presidental Speech Preview Play Video Congress Video:Presidental Speech Preview KVUE-TV Austin
* Medicinal Marijuana May Soon Be Available In NJ Play Video Congress Video:Medicinal Marijuana May Soon Be Available In NJ CBS 2 New York

WASHINGTON – House Democrats unveiled a $410 billion spending bill on Monday to keep the government running through the end of the fiscal year, setting up the second political struggle over federal funds in less than a month with Republicans.

The measure includes thousands of earmarks, the pet projects favored by lawmakers but often criticized by the public in opinion polls. There was no official total of the bill’s earmarks, which accounted for at least $3.8 billion.

That’s the crap that will eventually destroy the Democrats current reign of power. If the Clinton years were so damn wonderful, then why didn’t fat man Gore win in 2000 by a landslide. Our country drifts left & right; cycles. This cycle will hurt for decades to come. This dynamic will not bode well for Democrats; expect a fairly long shift to the right in upcoming elections. Conservatives like Bobby Jindahl will benefit, as will the country. Bush was NO Conservative, he was more of a RINO-Liberal with his fiscal policies. Rino’s and Liberals will be looked down upon following these next four years. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid will go down in history as destroyers of personal freedom & liberties, as well as big government power brokers. Obama will also be seen as a man that brought back racism the likes of which we had not seen in several decades.

Keemo on February 24, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Yap trap: Pols talk, markets dive
By JOHN F. HARRIS & MIKE ALLEN | 2/24/09 4:32 AM EST
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Illustration by Matt Wuerker
When Dodd mused about the possibility of bank nationalization, panicked investors sent the Dow plummeting.
Illustration by Matt Wuerker

It was a perfectly reasonable question, and on the surface it seemed like a perfectly reasonable answer. But when Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd went on Bloomberg TV Friday and mused about the possibility of bank nationalization, panicked investors sent the Dow plummeting a hundred points in the next hour.

Whoops.

Dodd’s casual remark and the not-so-casual consequences it caused were among the most vivid examples of a new Washington phenomenon. The city’s sudden status as the de facto world financial capital means that briefings and interviews that once would have passed with a yawn can create instant terror on Wall Street and Main Street alike.

In the past, the main object of Washington public relations was to try to make news, grab a headline and maneuver for better position in the daily scramble for power and partisan advantage. Usually, no one was much affected beyond the jawboning politicians themselves.

In the current financial crisis, the PR game is serious business.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner laid an egg earlier this month when his public rollout of a bank-rescue plan was deemed too vague by the markets, and the Dow Jones Industrial Average slid a harrowing 382 points.

Last summer, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) faced criticism that his high-profile criticism of IndyMac’s precarious financial condition caused a run on that bank, which failed days later.

Another garrulous politician, Vice President Joe Biden, did not help the cause of consumer confidence when he told lawmakers, in a remark that got out, that there was probably a 30 percent chance the Obama administration would fail.

Stupid is as stupid does!

Keemo on February 24, 2009 at 8:44 AM

zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:38

By being a President, I mean show responsibility and a love for this country and its people, instead of just spend their tax dollars trying to pay back your contributors and change the economic philosophy of this country from Capitalism to Socialism.

Idealistic I know. But I can dream.

kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 AM

By being a President, I mean show responsibility and a love for this country and its people, instead of just spend their tax dollars trying to pay back your contributors and change the economic philosophy of this country from Capitalism to Socialism.

Idealistic I know. But I can dream.

kingsjester on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 AM

I can appreciate that; I guess I’m too cynical with respect to our new CIC. Keep up the hope, we need all the positive thoughts we can get (as well as the talent!).

zeebeach on February 24, 2009 at 8:48 AM

In The Palin Jindal debate will probably go something like.
Palin “I think Obama is the worst POTUS we ever had.”
Jindal “I respectfully disagree, I think that Obama is the worst leader in history.”
Or maybe the reverse.

darktood on February 24, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Thomas sowell says that palin is one of us.
enough said.

baddest2020 on February 24, 2009 at 9:08 AM

First we have got to start getting the message out… Polls show that most Americans think The Messiah is doing a good job as PotUS… Holy BLEEP!?! WTF!?! How could this be after the first four weeks of HELL and the radical lurch and rush to the far, far left and Socialisam???? Have we come this far left in America???? Is Conservatisam dead????

The Messiah lies right tou our faces, his Porkulous is full of payoffs to Liberals and radicals and noone calls him on his lies of no prok, no earmarks… The MSM covers his butt and we are left with an ill-informed populace that actualy thinks this idiot is doing good…

Talk of revolution is futile with noone leading…

Mark Garnett on February 24, 2009 at 8:07 AM

You can’t be too surprised at those high approval numbers. Voters generally extend a degree of goodwill to incoming presidents – if nothing else, a lot of people grumbling about Obama’s stunning incompetence at the local sports bar are being shouted down by people saying “Come on, the guy just got the job a month ago, give him a chance!” The media certainly has not been selling a “culture of corruption” narrative to people, and it will take a while for such a narrative to catch on organically, the way John Kerry slowly morphed into a national punch line despite desperate media attempts to hold him up as the 60s answer to Audie Murphy. Most of the absolute blunders Obama has made so far have been too “inside baseball” for the average voter to get worked up about. How many of the guys at your favorite watering hole know who Tom Daschle is, or even who Tim Geithner is?

From the standpoint of the average voter, nothing has really happened yet. The amounts of money frittered away in the Porkulous bill are so titanic they become meaningless; the working stiff understands the Porkulous catastrophe about as well as he could follow a spirited debate between two quantum physicists. The casual observer only knows the media action line, which is that Barack Obama is an intellectual (and physical) superman who has wowed everyone with his elegance, and is trying very, very hard to fix the economic disaster George Bush is solely responsible for creating. There has been a bumpy start, and a few missteps were made, but there is no reason for Joe Average to dwell on these silly little personnel matters. To fix the economy, a huge amount of money is being magically conjured out of thin air, and spent to stimulate the economy. The exact details of how this money will be spent are unimportant. The stories of Obama’s economic genius were followed by news stories about Joe Average’s governor and state representatives sitting down to spend their miraculous stimulus money as they sing Obama’s praises – with one notable exception, but that guy believes in exorcism, so you should just ignore him.

The average voter is still cautiously optimistic about Obama because they haven’t suffered under his policies yet. They’ve only seen him speak to adoring crowds, knock the socks off fawning journalists, and cause jobs and houses to rain down on worthy supplicants with a wave of his hand. When the first actual effects of Obamanomics hit – stagflation, a collapse in the bond market, the announcement of the first big tax hikes, the first national security disaster – those polls will change very quickly… assuming there is opposition leadership ready to step forward and begin the difficult task of rescuing the country from this disaster.

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM

As a Louisiana fella, this is Jindal all day long. He is never short a few words that is for sure….lol.

I will cricize him for a moment though:: When he was campaigning for governor, he said he wouldnt allow pay raises for legislatures. And when it came up shortly after he was elected, he was going to give it to them, but my fellow Louisiana folks, stood our ground and with the help of Moon Griffon and others here, got him to change his mind and not allow it.

So, he will listen, but he is a politician like any other. Stay vigilant at all times, b/c we all know how politicians operate.

TheHat on February 24, 2009 at 9:46 AM

God, I look forward to the day this man is in the Oval Office. Unfortunately, we’re going to have to endure a living hell before that can happen.

ErinF on February 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Lawrence Summers, head of the National Economic Council, fell asleep on the podium at Obama’s fiscal summit.

maverick muse on February 24, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I was willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but his actions within the first few weeks pretty much destroyed it. If he would have at least attempted to do something constructive I would still be giving him some slack. The Spendulus Maximus was the final straw. Now he is just digging deeper.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM

I had to double check who wrote that. And, oh, it was Ed.
Heh. Me too.

Phoenician on February 24, 2009 at 12:39 AM

That was the first thing I did also. What does that tell you AP.

usarmyretired on February 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM

I’m sorry but I still don’t see anything impressive with what Jindal said in this clip. He didn’t say anything that Sanford, Palin and Barbour haven’t already said. And I still wish he had been a little less gracious toward Obama. Honestly, he’s thanking him for allowing the governors to participate in the discussion??

I like Jindal, I really do but I’m sure he has made other statements that would be considered more note-worthy than this vanilla flavored one.

Redneck Woman on February 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Apparently YouTube has disappeared the video. I am getting a “no longer available” response. Dang.

OzzieMan on February 24, 2009 at 10:54 AM

was willing to give Obama the benefit of the doubt but his actions within the first few weeks pretty much destroyed it. If he would have at least attempted to do something constructive I would still be giving him some slack. The Spendulus Maximus was the final straw. Now he is just digging deeper.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Well, you’re obviously not an average voter then, and probably not even a “working American.” You should stop wasting time posting comments on a right-wing hate site, and do something constructive, like cut a check to pay off Minta Garcia’s $800,000.00 mortgage. Don’t worry, your seditious comments about our Savior, and the economic miracle of the Stimulus Loaves and Fishes, will probably be erased when this site is Fairness Doctrined out of existence.

You need to be patient with President Obama. His economic plan is far too complicated for simple folk like us to understand. Why, even a credentialed genius like Larry Summers was nearly blasted into a coma by trying to comprehend it all at once. Obama will need at least eight years to fully implement this elaborate plan, and who knows? He might need to ask working Americans to give him even more than two terms. You don’t want to be seen as one of the do-nothing anti-stimulus fanatics who caused the American Hope and Compassion for Babies and Kittens Stimulus Act to fail, do you?

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM

Lenin: “The way to crush the bourgeoisie [the middle class] is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

Winston Churchill: “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

allahallahoxenfree on February 24, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM

You are right of course, how is one lowly peasant supposed to understand the machinations of the Democrats and Obama? It would be like my cat trying to understand Cicero. The one thing that annoys me the most is that he keeps blaming Bush. Bush is certainly due some blame, but so is Congress, and if the markets are any indicator, Obama is starting to fill his own bag. Now back to the subject at hand.
A previous poster stated that Jindal is a creationist and advocates that it is taught in school. After a little research I found that this is true. Since this is true, the poster is right in saying that Jindal would never be elected President. Whether we like it or not, no far-right candidate will ever be elected President. The press and the left (though that is a synonym) would tear him apart and say he is forcing his religion on people. We all know it doesn’t matter if it is true or not.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 AM

good Man! not a POS like the Head Monkey…

NRA Lifer on February 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM

txaggie on February 24

I’m glad David didn’t take that viewpoint or I might be drinking Philistine Light today.

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Let us not play God,let the voters decide.No one knows who can win or cannot win,let us take one day at a time.
the one still have a 60% chane of winning again.
He could give amnesty and wipe the Gop out.
he could buy the whole luisiana legislaure and have them investigate and impeach jinal.
His msm cronies could make up phony pols showing the Gop losing in 4 or 5 red states and have the Gop waste their money playing defence.
did you forget Accorn,they could screw up our primary because their will not be dem primaries.

baddest2020 on February 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM

A previous poster stated that Jindal is a creationist and advocates that it is taught in school. After a little research I found that this is true. Since this is true, the poster is right in saying that Jindal would never be elected President. Whether we like it or not, no far-right candidate will ever be elected President. The press and the left (though that is a synonym) would tear him apart and say he is forcing his religion on people. We all know it doesn’t matter if it is true or not.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 11:12 AM

It would be a hurdle for Jindal to overcome, and the media will surely use it against him, but I don’t know if it’s really a deal-breaker. Did anyone in 2004 think we’d elect a faithful believer in black liberation theology, who spent twenty years bringing his children to a racist church?

I suspect the electorate in 2012 will be as polarized as the one in 2008 was: everyone will either love, or hate, the incumbent Obama. The election after a president’s first term is, inevitably, a referendum on that president. I find it highly unlikely that a besotted public will be giving him 67% approval ratings by then, and if he’s screwed things up badly enough, the religious faith of his opponent is likely to become something of a peripheral issue – provided said opponent doesn’t stumble badly and allow himself to be crucified in the press. As we’ve seen with Sarah Palin, personal issues are likely to be used mostly as an excuse by people that hate the candidate anyway. If the candidate has real charisma, as Obama unquestionably does, the side issues will be dismissed as carping by an electorate that largely favors him. If the candidate is a joke, like John Kerry was, the side issues become bleeding wounds in a staggering campaign.

If all else fails, Jindal could always claim he embraced creationism due to the teaching of a black minister. Maybe he could even say it was Jeremiah Wright. If nothing else, that would make for a fun news cycle.

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Watch out for Jindal. He has disappointed many conservatives here in Louisiana. He certainly says all of the right things but he’s becoming bored with running our state.

roux on February 24, 2009 at 11:55 AM

“Man is that guy clean” ~Biden

shortdawgdc on February 24, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Jindal sounds good, I look forward to hearing more from him.

james23 on February 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Pardonme but the strings placed on $’s by the federal government (our congress) are so far reaching and detrimental to our economic well being. Let’s look at an example: Freddie and Fannie several years ago established a class of stock that was only able to be purchased by banks. This stock was set up to pump money into Freddie and Fannie so government (our congress) REQUIRED banks to buy the special stock. So folks, your local bank that you feel is so prudent in its business affairs was REQUIRED to buy the stock even when they knew it was not in their best interest or the interest of its depositors. But they had NO CHOICE in the matter because (our congress) needed the money to build up Freddie and Fannie. Now turn the page: with the collapse of Freddie and Fannie what was to happen to all this stock that the regional and local banks were REQUIRED to buy. Now the government (our congress) REQUIRED the banks to write off the stock that they were REQUIRED to buy. Do you see the picture? The losses were and are enormous! All at the hands of (our congress). Do you know who really lost all the money? You did. Now your local and regional bank does not have as much money to lend and you know what that does to the local real estate business and the small businesses in your home area. What’s my point? Money that comes from the government is coming with strings that reach so far into your pocket and you don’t even realize it. (our congress) is in business for itself and its power. They have their pet projects and they don’t care how they achieve them and they have learned to do away with transparency and cover up their maneuvers so that we don’t even know what they are doing.
The few Governors who are now considering not taking the money from the “stimulus package” are perhaps much wiser than they are given credit. They know the traps that are hidden in the package that will gain more power for (our congress) and do not want to subject their citizens to the future problems similar to what happened to the banks. God bless these people and give them the strength to resist. It will, in the long run, be a saving grace for their states and citizens.

Pardonme on February 24, 2009 at 1:30 PM

SKYFOX on February 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM

I see your point in how you should try even in the face of despair, but you are misunderstanding my point. I am not saying we shouldn’t try, I am saying we (conservatives) need to choose our candidates much more carefully. Is Jindal a good guy? By all accounts he is, and his views will give him plenty of votes in the Bible vote, but not the rest of the country.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 11:51 AM

I completely agree that the electorate will be just as polarized as it has in the past three elections. I do believe it could be a deal-breaker though. When someone runs for office they pull up everything that they have done since wiping their backside for the first time when they were two. The press will find everything that he has voted on and which way it went. They will omit the decisions he made which could refute their claim and then slant the story to make him look like an ideologue. When it comes to character assassination the press knows no bounds.

txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Please people, let’s forget Sarah Palin. She was obviously was unprepared for the national scence and she is still unprepared. Going on Greta is not enough! She needs to do interviews with serious political journalists. She needs to talk in details about the issues of the day. Here mama grizzly routine is wearing thin.

Chekote on February 24, 2009 at 12:09 AM

Your post made me laugh.

First Jindal and Palin do quite well on interviews… it is the people behind the scenes cutting and pasting the film that make people wonder about credibility.

Second, being that anyone can be found out on their voting by going to an elections office… that sentence you stated doesn’t mean crap and obviously you haven’t gone to an election office to ask.

Third, I doubt you have ever seen a Mama Grizzly … just because you have in a zoo and not in the wilderness, doesn’t make up the difference. Trust me on that one!

upinak on February 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM

First Jindal and Palin do quite well on interviews… it is the people behind the scenes cutting and pasting the film that make people wonder about credibility.

Second, being that anyone can be found out on their voting by going to an elections office… that sentence you stated doesn’t mean crap and obviously you haven’t gone to an election office to ask.

Third, I doubt you have ever seen a Mama Grizzly … just because you have in a zoo and not in the wilderness, doesn’t make up the difference. Trust me on that one!

upinak on February 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM

I think it’s appropriate to be concerned about the poise, charisma, and accumulated baggage of *any* candidate, particularly in this next election, but I haven’t seen anything to suggest we should “forget” about Palin or Jindal. What they do next will matter much more than anything they have done in the past. It could be that Palin’s savage treatment at the media’s hands in 2008 will inoculate her from some of the same criticisms in 2012, if she presents herself carefully. The credibility of the media took a pretty big hit in 2008, and you can tell they know it, and some of them feel a little embarrassed about it. The full extent of that damage is yet to be seen.

It seems obvious to suggest the media will try very, very hard to get Obama re-elected – the media Left will have deep personal and practical reasons for sparing no effort to ensure the First Black President is not seen as a dismal one-term failure. Anyone the Republicans run – Jindal, Romney, Batman – is going to get the same treatment Palin got in 2008, and then some. It seems wise to take a serious look at the person who went through that chamber of horrors once already. And if things go *really* badly with Obama, the media might be eager to dissociate themselves from him, treating him the way they treat Carter these days: airbrushed out of the historical record. (Judging from media stories, the only thing of note that occurred between 1976 and 1979 was the release of “Star Wars.”) This could make them less than eager to revisit any aspect of Campaign 2008.

I think it’s a great asset for both Palin and Jindal that they are youthful. Palin might be uniquely positioned to drive home the point that Obamanomics means debt slavery for our children – it’s the kind of message a female candidate can deliver with particular resonance for an emotion-driven electorate.

Doctor Zero on February 24, 2009 at 3:41 PM

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/547231.aspx

This is an example of what Jindal would face from the MSM in 2012, only 100x worse. (Since this article was written by a columnist from the Christian Broadcasting Network).

Norwegian on February 24, 2009 at 4:21 PM

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it .

The late Dr. Adrian Rogers , 1931 to 2005 ~~~

saiga on February 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Why should there be a split between those who like Palin and those who like Jindal? We do need all the conservatives with executive experience we can get.

Ditto.

I’m very pro-Palin, and think those that underestimate her do so at their own peril (and I bet Frank Murkowski and the Alaska GOP would agree with me, albeit very grudgingly). Nevertheless, based on what I see now, I like Jindal quite a bit as well, and think he could be a very strong voice and candidate for us as well.

If the 2012 primary comes down to a 3-way race between Palin, Jindal, and Sanford, I’ll be happier than a fat man in a buffet line, because it means we will end up with a nominee who can unite the disparate parts of the base. Competitive and heated as such a primary season may become, it will be much more satisfying that what we had in 2008, where every candidate had major warts and we ended up with a grumpy old man who inspired nobody.

thirteen28 on February 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I’m with all those who say let’s support both Governor Palin and Governor, especially right now. I want to see them continue to govern their states well. They will be examples of what conservative leadership is all about. We any conservative will get hammered.

manajordan on February 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Hint: Skip to the foreign policy segment.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 2:21 AM

I watched it live and read the transcripts, so I don’t need any refresher from the likes of you. You will find few people on this site who think Biden was right on the surge, on the Afghanistan counterinsurgency, on a three-state solution, on dealing with Pakistan or several of the points Sarah Palin spanked him on during that debate. The reviews from the major networks and blogs all credit her with a good showing.

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Didn’t Palin just whiff big time in trying to prove that?

Bradky on February 24, 2009 at 5:39 AM

Palin was not the top of the ticket, McCain was. She was used to make McCain look weak, since going after him was too risky for a Democrat given his war record. However, the public was hugely responsive to Palin in an overall positive way, and she has some time to strengthen her credentials and prepare for her own run, if she chooses.

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM

I wasn’t aware of the exorcism, but he lost me over intelligent design.

backwoods conservative on February 24, 2009 at 7:26 AM

It will be all you hear about, if he runs. They made up tons of lies about Palin for lack of better material: Trigg stuff, book banning, Troopergate, Turkeygate, wolf hunting, and so on.

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 5:27 PM

There are a dozen solid reasons to oppose Obama but find one reason not to support Jindal and he’s toast.

Basilsbest on February 24, 2009 at 8:22 AM

Ask him the H1-B/L1 abuse issue.

sethstorm on February 24, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Forgive, please… I’m WAAY late to this subject, but……
can anyone explain why NO ONE refers to tonight’s speech as the ‘State of the Union Address’ ?? Links welome .. Hmmmm…
Sorry so late.. came in here to perhaps find a live stream, tonight .. HAHA.

pambi on February 24, 2009 at 6:00 PM

So questions raised by LGF shouldn’t be ignored

When they lose their rabid fanaticism there, then they can talk.

sethstorm on February 24, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Either take the money or not Jingleheimer. Taking some of the money makes him only half a whore.

Monkei on February 24, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Again I’ll reiterate (Jindal is my Governor by the way) …

That Bobby Jindal has not received the press bashing that Sarah Palin did. But – YOU CAN COUNT ON THE FACT that he’ll receive that bashing just as soon as the liberals perceive him to be a threat. They are still bashing Palin – because they feel she isn’t dead yet.

Now I just wonder how all you CONSERVATIVES will behave once Jindal gets his from the MSM? I’m betting that many of you will run from him the way you ran from Palin – because face it – though most of you complain about the MSM – you still allow them to tar and feather your candidates and once they’ve destroyed him or her – you cry over the body and look for someone. Mission accomplished MSM.

Gonna keep happening until you attack the media vociferously.

Sarah Palin got a week of bashing and pelting and lies from the Media before she even gave that speech at the RNC. When she went out on that stage – she was unfazed – she KILLED. I have experience making speeches – I would NOT have been able to walk out on that stage and deliver the speech she did. She has it – but we let the MSM take it.

I won’t abandon her – the freakin’ MSM doesn’t tell me who to vote for. Palin or Jindal – either one will have to EARN the nomination in ’12. I’ll support either one – will YOU? After the MSM sodomizes them?

HondaV65 on February 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM

chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Cute. The likes of me. I’m included among those on this site who don’t think Biden was right. I wish Sarah Palin knew at the time enough about our involvement in the Middle East to refute some of Biden’s nonsense about places other than Iraq of Afghanistan.

thecountofincognito on February 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM

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