Report: Schwarzenegger almost left the GOP
posted at 5:21 pm on February 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
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He’s a centrist from a western state who seems more comfortable with Democrats than his own party and reportedly considered leaving the GOP altogether. There’s only one thing to do with him, obviously:
Offer him the Republican presidential nomination.
A few months ago, Arnold Schwarzenegger and a few close associates discussed whether he should leave the Republican Party, according to two people familiar with the conversation. His friend Mike Bloomberg, the New York mayor, had become an independent. Maybe Schwarzenegger should, too. But the governor and his people quickly concluded that Californians already saw him as independent of the Republican Party. So what would be the point of a switch? (A spokesman for the governor declined comment.)…
How did the marriage between Schwarzenegger and his party go bad? The truth is that it was never much of a marriage. Schwarzenegger’s criticism of Republicans pre-dates his entry into political life. At first, however, many Republicans loved the actor’s image so much that they didn’t pay attention to his words. “Arnold is a very seductive individual,” said Stephen Moore, then president of the conservative Club for Growth, in 2004…
Schwarzenegger himself is responsible for many of his problems. The governor did not devote much time to building deep personal relationships with Republican lawmakers. At a rare meeting last year with the governor, some of these lawmakers wore name tags. After a marriage to a Kennedy and a long career in Hollywood, Schwarzenegger seems more personally comfortable with Democratic leaders. Worse still, Schwarzenegger in private could talk insultingly about Republican lawmakers. They were “foreheads,” “the wild bunch,” or “out there.” Such comments spread quickly in the gossipy Capitol.
Yeah, what would be the point of a switch? He can’t run for governor again in California; conceivably he might run for Senate, but he stands a better chance against Boxer or Feinstein in a general election as a nominal Republican with some party support than as an independent or a Democratic challenger in a primary. Besides, if he drops the GOP, he eliminates any chance of a presidential run in the unlikely event that the natural-born provision of the Constitution is repealed. Exit question: Admit it. Despite all your teeth-gnashing about moderates, you’ll still avidly, full-throatedly support him against any Democrat — and he knows it. See, e.g., the 2008 presidential election for comparison. Second look at RINOs?
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Uhm…don’t let the door hit you…
When was he actually in the GOP?
I mean ideologically, not geographically?
kybowexar on February 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM
McCain isn’t a full blown RINO. Though you’re probably right about most hot air readers anyway.
Darth Executor on February 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Post of the year.
amerpundit on February 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM
and?
rob verdi on February 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM
wouldn’t mind him as Senator, he wouldn’t be quite as emboldened to political pressures as he is as Governor in a Liberal state, therefor may tact to the Right a little more often.
He chose governing over being conservative and getting beat for it.
jp on February 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Thats the problem. Rino’s know we will settle for them over a Lib. This needs to change.
When you give a RINO a cookie…..he’ll want a glass of milk.
Stop feeding RINOS and soon they will leave. Good riddance.
portlandon on February 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM
And?
Water is wet.
The sky is blue.
Call me when there is something new.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM
I know I would feel better if he were honest and put a D after his name.
jukin on February 23, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Hasta la vista, Gove-turd-enator.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 23, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Stephen, you ignorant slut.
Wethal on February 23, 2009 at 5:26 PM
almost?
Abby Adams on February 23, 2009 at 5:26 PM
So when our lib-trolls post that Arnold has destroyed the CA economy; they’ll understand why he’s not really a republican, right?
Oh.
lorien1973 on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
He can do maximum damage to the GOP by staying the GOP.
If he is running in California, I will support the Democrat so America can see the full destruction that progressive policies cause without having any stain on the GOP.
WashJeff on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
No I won’t
Enjoy The Obama.
Skandia Recluse on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Maybe Arnie wants to be more conservative but the Crypt Keeper won’t put out if he does, so the guy is stuck.
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
I wouldn’t. The dude has no political skills. His handling of California’s budget has been awful. To put it simply, he’s incompetent.
I’m tried to defend him because he really did have some good ideas at the beginning, but the recent avalanche of stupid decisions makes that impossible for me.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
He was a RINO before Maria castrated him.
AubieJon on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
What’s holding you back, Arnold? Buh-bye.
califcon on February 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Bottom line, he is a KENNEDY.
bloggless on February 23, 2009 at 5:29 PM
He went from being a hard core terminator into a flabby little girly man.
thirteen28 on February 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Maybe Arnie wants to be more conservative but the Crypt Keeper won’t put out if he does, so the guy is stuck.
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 5:28 PM
From what we’ve heard all these years, he doesn’t exactly depend on Maria for, uh, tension relief.
califcon on February 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM
For about 39 seconds back in 1981 when he said this.
trubble on February 23, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Sooooo not funny…and sadly…so true of the beltway establisment :(
Rogue on February 23, 2009 at 5:31 PM
My father used to use a politically incorrect expression to describe this situation:
White man fool Indian once, shame on White man;
White man fool Indian twice, shame on Indian.
Ahhhnold can go hang, he’s about as much a Republican as Bill Clinton.
johnsteele on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I would not vote for Arnold if he were running against Governor Moonbeam!
Get rid of the RINOs! Republican has to be an IDEA, not a BRAND you Austrian Asshat!
Mew
acat on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Arnold’s favorite President: Groper Cleveland.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Would this be like saying since Obama is not a Natural Born citizen (God only knows where he was born), we should let Ah-nuhld run?
I don’t think so!
upinak on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Luckily I don’t have to worry about voting for him. Gov. Crist on the other hand……. They should duke it out for the money turned down by other states with Republican governors. Do you think Gov. Crist stands a chance? Arnold’s pretty girlie these days.
Cindy Munford on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Allah, you’d probably be surprised at the reception a Schwarzenegger senate run would get from California’s Republicans. I am in that particular minority, and most of the people I know out here are also Republicans. (I live in the strongest red area in NorCal.) I literally don’t know a soul on either side of the aisle out her who likes the guy in a political sense. Not only does he run hot and cold, he seems to have no solid grounding in anything. Most of us wish he’d just go back to Tinseltown, and shake the dust of Sacramento off his feet.
sondiehl on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Yeah, I’m having a hard time imagining that he’d handle the job better than Obama, and that’s really saying something.
Esthier on February 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Not if he was in a primary with a true Republican running against him, I wouldn’t. And voting for a Republican and “avidly, full-throatedly supporting” is different than voting for the lesser of two evils. That’s why McCain didn’t win – not enough avid, full-throated supporters willing to play the ground game for him.
Matticus Finch on February 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Schwarzenegger/Grahamnesty ‘12 !!!!!!
darwin on February 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM
DON,T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN YOUR POMPAS A** AS YOU LEAVE. PS GRAB LINSEY GRAHAMM.SPECTER.COLLIN,S AND SNOWE AS YOU LEAVE YOU JERK.
thmcbb on February 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Ditto. The dude is a ham-handed politician.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM
You lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas.
technopeasant on February 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Arnold is RINO and the party would be much better off without him.
Hal-9000 on February 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Second look at non-natural born citizens !!!!
darwin on February 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Great. Not surprised. Get out and stay out!
BetseyRoss on February 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I haven’t really seen him do anything extravagant that would warrant a vote. If he were to run in a national election I would probably vote for him. Not because I think his policies are awesome, but because I think he wouldn’t be as bad as a Democrat. The last time I voted for someone was in the 2000 election. I thought W had a lot of good ideas and promise. He dropped the ball on fiscal conservatism so I voted against Kerry by voting for Bush in 2004.
txaggie on February 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Is this a promise or a
threatjoke?katy on February 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Bye.
I interviewed for a tech position in the Governor’s office last year. It was all about the blackberries, and I’ve got little experience with Blackberry Servers. It was at the low end of my salary scale. And they never had the courtesy to follow up with me (”we’ll get in touch with you next week”). In my heart of hearts, I didn’t have it in me to call back to follow up either. It’s just too hard to bite your tongue.
juanito on February 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
I truly hope by now that we’ve learned that the “any body but Obama” strategy failed as miserably for us as it did for liberals when they ran “any body but Bush.”
Esthier on February 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM
Kalifornian’s- GOP or other- hate AHHnold. All they did was replace one bad governor with another bad governor—albeit, this one had “Hollywood magic” attached to him. Oh boy.
anniekc on February 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM
You’d be surprised.
juanito on February 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM
I’d vote for Governor Moonbeam before Arnold.
Time to get rid of this past-prime Austrian RINO.
Mew
(at least that way Cali will crash on Democrat time…)
acat on February 23, 2009 at 5:37 PM
For the Presidency? Yeah, probably. What would be the alternative? Sit it out and let whatever hideous Democrat wins claim an even larger mandate?
For the Senate? Hell, no.
Regardless, please leave Arnold. Do it. Do it now. Get to the chopper.
Kensington on February 23, 2009 at 5:38 PM
We need a RINO Terminator. Oh wait..
Guardian on February 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Arnold and I come from the same province. Our hometowns are about… well… 60 to 70 kilometers apart.
His career, impressive. Arnold, to me, was always the role model of how a foreigner integrates himself into a country other than his. He learned the language and worked hard. That’s how you do it.
When Arnold sent back the “honor ring” from the city of Graz, after the whole fight between him and the Green party (pure and utter leftists) over the execution of Tookie Williams (I think it was him), and had the owners of the stadium there remove the “Arnold Schwarzenegger” from it (you could tell he was really angry about the leftist critics in the country he was born in), I was like “Yeah, show them the hammer Arnie! Way to go! Wooo!”
But today I’m almost ashamed to say that we are from the same province. He has been making so many bad calls in the past 1-2 years, it’s amazing -yet somewhat frightening.
What the hell happened to the guy who worked his ass off to achieve something? How can he support the whole stimulus nonsense? The global warming hoax? All that leftist “Mumpitz” (BS)? Did he get a stimulus when he went to the US? No. He worked his ass off to get where he dreamed to be. That’s the American Way of Life. Work hard! Give it all! In German America has always been called the “Land der unbegrenzten Möglichkeiten”, the land of unlimited possibilities.
Wanting a welfare state, a nanny state, sucking on the tax payers tits, that’s not the American Way.
Whatever happened to Arnie?
The, shall I say, “model immigrant” turned into a fluffy chicken who’s betraying all the things the country that took him in stands for.
I’m ashamed, and sad.
PS: maybe being that close to the Kennedys has a certain unhealthy influence?
Penguin on February 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Didn’t help that the nominee himself wouldn’t attack Obama and castigated anyone who did…Obama didn’t need an attack dog…McAmnesty did himself in.
Rogue on February 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Yeaaaaaaaah. He’s fiscally flabby.
He should replace pumpitude with Constitutional fortitude.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 23, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Don’t blame me, I voted for Tom McClintock.
OmahaConservative on February 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I dunno … we’d probably do just as good by grabbing the next illegal to cross the border and nominating him or her.
Juan or Juanita ‘12 !!!
darwin on February 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Unless he picks Zombie Goldwater, Reagan, or Buckley as his veep, no f’n way. That year I walk.
MadisonConservative on February 23, 2009 at 5:42 PM
During the primaries, we definitely should demand more than “anybody but Obama,” but once the nominee is set, what else is there to do? Sitting out this last November wouldn’t have beaten Obama? I did my darndest to drag McCain’s sorry butt across the finish line.
Closing the primaries should be a top priority.
Kensington on February 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM
Yer kidding right?
He is in the GOP? Since when?
Jim708 on February 23, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I voted libertarian Allahpundit. Had I not moved from Ohio to CA in 2006 I would have voted for Sherrod Brown too. RINO’s do not get my vote. The only man that can save California: Tom McClintock. If you are interested he has done many interviews on KFI’s John and Ken show, listen to him and you’ll be convinced that he knows how to govern.
Theworldisnotenough on February 23, 2009 at 5:45 PM
I would support him against any other Dem…but then I would support most any Republican against Arnold.
He is better then Boxer, but not as good as Jindahl…about the same as Arlen…Better then Murtha, better then Pelosi, but not as good as Huckabee, or Graham…There is a pecking order.
He is just above most democrats, but below most Republicans.
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM
He was my choice and my vote when I was living there…an exceptional man.
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM
i live in this disfunctional state called California. I have one thing to say to our governor: hasta la vista
jbh45 on February 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Arnold should return to movies.
I don’t think that he would make a good senator. There is too great a change that he’ll be like the Judas Three.
eaglescout1998 on February 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Not too late Arnie.
hawkdriver on February 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
All hypothetical; his political career can only go as far as Senate and even that’s unlike, with him tied to the collapsing of the California state government. The porice you pay for following the WIlson model of state government, not the Reagan one.
michaelo on February 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM
He is a damn sight better as a California Senator than Boxer or Feinstein. When you are dealing with liberal states, you need Republicans who can win (even if they are moderates) or you will remain in minority status forever.
Hey, if you have a conservative GOP candidate who can win in these states, run him or her. Otherwise, stop being stupid.
Mr. Joe on February 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Nope.
My thoughts regarding RINOs: DLTDHYOTWO.
Irony Alert: The HA header ad is this: “Obama’s Stimulus Check. Learn how I received two bailout checks.”
conservative pilgrim on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Blue state Republicans will tend to be like Arnold, Rudy, Bloomberg, etc. The alternative usually is a Democrat not a more conservative Republican.
dedalus on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
It’s funny how “moderate” Democrats get so little attention from the media. But let a “moderate” Republican level even the mildest of criticisms agianst his/her party, and they are all over it.
John F Not Kerry on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
It’s amazing to me how many Republicans all held their nose, including me, and only voted McCain because Palin was on board.
Now we have the concept in our minds of someone just as, if not more moderate/liberal, who was a total failure as governor of California, running under the GOP ticket…and plenty are willing to pony up their votes.
How many months has it been since the election, again? Memories are getting worse every day, it seems.
MadisonConservative on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I wouldn’t support him for dogcatcher if he was running against Barbara Boxer. I just wouldn’t vote. That was the “theory” behind the McCain campaign – that McCain was palatable enough to liberals that he’d strip off votes from the left – and that conservatives, left with a choice between socialism and RINOism would pull the lever for the RINO. That is not the way it works anymore folks. If conservatives have to spend a generation in the wilderness – we’re still not going to compromise and run to the polls for a RINO. I surely hope the GOP realizes this. If they want to be the party of conservatism – they need to nominate conservatives. Otherwise … “ta-ta”.
But back to Conan the Barbarian … He’s now officially a “girlie-man”. It was very hard to see a Republican Governor on TV this weekend with his hand out begging for welfare. Even harder – was the fact that he seemed to feel so smugly superior to South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford (a fellow Republican). Message to Swarterneggar – you aren’t superior – you’re pathetic you pansie. California doesn’t need a hand-out – the state government just needs to stop spending money on stupid stuff like stem-cell research.
HondaV65 on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Almost nothing could be better for the National Republican Party than Arnold leaving. He is the head of one of the worst blue states in the country, a State that doesn’t understand the benefit of business. “Caulifornia” would rather run business and the middle class out of the State than do things that would give their people jobs. Way to go, Girlie Man.
doncow on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
You’d have voted for him anyway. Dude. Dude.
Allahpundit on February 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Penguin on February 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Excellent.
I have less respect for Kennedy Republicans than I do for Kennedy Democrats. I didn’t know that was possible until Arnie came along.
tuffy on February 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
He went to Sacramento with a plan to straighten the state out, and when confronted by the Dems/Unions, folded like a comic book. Screw him.
Patrick S on February 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM
No, dude. Not until she showed up.
Dude.
MadisonConservative on February 23, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I’ll not be back
Wade on February 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Assuming they actually bothered to vote … I guess. Never underestimate the apathy brought on by despair.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Yes, but thanks to Governor Palin I didn’t actually have to hold my nose or bring a vomit bag. I just pretended that Governor Palin was the only one on the ticket.
Kensington on February 23, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I voted for McClintock too. Then for Lt. Governor. And now finally, he’s my Congressman. If he can get some visibility in a few years he could try for Senator, or Governor. Fingers crossed.
juanito on February 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Good riddance. Hey, Arnold…. take Charlie Crist and Tim Pawlenty with ya….. Charlie Crist is just as bad as Arnold, Florida.
suzyk on February 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Schwarzenegger
almostleft the GOPbaldilocks on February 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Thank goodness he didn’t…….otherwise the GOP wouldn’t be able to take any credit for the economic miracle that is today’s California!
Kasper Hauser on February 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
I live in California. I’m registered as Republican. However, it is more accurate to describe me as a conservative. I have never voted for Arnold Schwarzenegger. I have always consider Mr. Schwarzenegger a “Democrat in drag”. I appalled that during the recall drive the state Republican party endorsed Arnold when they could have endorsed a real Republican (Tom McClintock).
I would rather have an honest Democrat than a RINO in office. When a RINO puts the country or a state in the tank all of the Republics get a bad reputation from the failure. At least when Democrats screw up with socialism we have a chance to call them out, contrast conservative principles with the slavery of Marxism, and win elections.
Chris
clarsen13 on February 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Buffoon. He’s like Barry. Not enough brains nor substance to match the ego.
marklmail on February 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Californian’s voted to give $300 million of the state budget PER YEAR for the next decade to embrionic stem cell research (Prop 71). Why won’t Conan explain why he wants South Carolinians to pay for that? Especially since most South Carolinians are against stem cell research?
Since we can bitch about the extravangances of banking executives who take bailout funds – then why can’t we bitch about a state like California that insists the rest of us pay for their stupid stem cell research? $300 million per year there Conan. How about an explanation? It’s MY money and I don’t even live in California.
HondaV65 on February 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM
True, but not sitting out didn’t work either.
I’m guessing it’s almost half and half of those who would have and those who wouldn’t have.
Esthier on February 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM
semi-OT:
saw this at Gateway Pundit. Steele is open to punishing 3 turncoat RINOs.
conservative pilgrim on February 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Bye, Arnold!
INC on February 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Sounds to me like in his mind he’s alreay left the GOP. Standard liberal looking down his nose at peers he thinks beneath him.
katiejane on February 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Good news! He must have gotten a lot of angry emails.
INC on February 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
What he knows is that those of us Californians who know what he is would stay home and plan for that move out of the former Golden State–like some of us are doing right now.
And as for the 2008 presidential election, we’re about to learn from hard experience what running a RINO against a Leftist brings.
baldilocks on February 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM
He is so financially strong (knowledge wise) this is where some of the GOP money should go immediately. They need to begin to strengthen his identity.
The GOP waits too long, then reaches into their book or old Republicans, and it becomes too late.
They have a man that can win in California if they start now…
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Let me tell you something about Arnie. I unfortunately live in California. I was all excited when Arnold came about because he was supposedly going to reign in all these crazy communists in Sacramento. Well after his ballot initiatives (Which were awesome) failed, he then decided that being liked was more important than doing the right thing. He then made a hard left turn and drove his head directly into the Lib’s backside and hasn’t left since….
Now everything he campaigned against is being done. (i.e the doubling of the car tax)
He is now officially a “girlie-man”
Not even the terminator can fix Sacramento….
The biggest lesson I have learned in the last 2 years is that both parties are the same and are driving the US into tyranny. They just take different routes….
Constitution1st on February 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I voted for Arnold twice. The second time I almost left the governor choice blank but I didn’t want my ballot not to be counted. I will never vote for him for anything again. I’ll vote third party or right a name in. I also like McClintock. I would vote for him for whatever office he ran for.
Rose on February 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I mean write.
Rose on February 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
But you started this by saying “anybody but Obama won’t work” (to paraphrase). I’m asking: once the nominee is set, what else is there to do? If more of us had decided “anyone but Obama,” it would have worked, and the only reason it didn’t is that too many of us refused to say “anyone but Obama.”
That was an unnecessarily disastrous call on their parts. The problem isn’t saying “anybody but Obama,” it’s with saying “I can’t have my ideal conservative, so I’ll turn everything over to crazy liberals.”
Kensington on February 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM
You’re right to a certain extent. I will vote for the governator over a Democrat, but I don’t have to do any more than that. I refuse to support them in any other fashion. No money, and no support in any fashion.
DFCtomm on February 23, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Prior to this Porkulus debacle, I would have disagreed with you, and would have said that someone who is nominally Republican (and thus would vote for the Republican Speaker of the House or Senate Majority Leader) and who would vote with the GOP 20% of the time is better than having a real Democrat in the office.
But the Porkulus 3 really, really harmed this country and the GOP. They cut a deal that was positively silly and that prevented the GOP from getting a seat at the table — literally. Thus, they deprived the party of the platform to push its alternative plan and stake a position other than the “party of no.” And in my opinion, they must be punished for those actions.
Outlander on February 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Dead wrong. Either way America goes down in flames. Why should the GOP have its fingerprints on it? Why should I even bother to vote then? I’m tired of having to vote for the lesser of two evils. McCain was the last time I ever do that. I’d rather die in a bloody revolt than vote for another corrupt bum. Don’t get too comfortable or cocky in assuming the conservatives are just going to blindly follow anymore. I sense a growing hatred for both parties, because both of them are destroying this great nation.
chicagojedi on February 23, 2009 at 6:22 PM
In a psychiatrist’s waiting room two patients are having a conversation. One says to the other, “Who are you? And why are you here?”
The second answers, “I’m Napoleon, so the doctor told me to come here.”
The first is curious and asks, “How do you know that you’re Napoleon?”
The second responds, “God told me I was.”
At this point, a patient on the other side of the room shouts, “NO I DIDN’T!”
Entelechy on February 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM
The epitome of the Country Club Republican.
He was awfully gleeful about saying he’d take stimulus money from governors that wouldn’t accept it. Hey, that’s my damn money, Guv and I’m not a Californian.
The states should get a refund of Federal tax funds stolen from their respective citizens to bail them out. That would, I think, be fair.
Dr. ZhivBlago on February 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM
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