Obama plans “soak the rich” class-warfare economics
posted at 9:37 am on February 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. And those who repeat failed policies of the past are doomed to failure themselves, and the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We can apply all of these proverbs to what the Washington Post reports as the next phase of Deadbeatonomics, in which Obama will try the old populist “soak the rich” policies in order to close a deficit that he himself exploded in the past two weeks:
President Obama is putting the finishing touches on an ambitious first budget that seeks to cut the federal deficit in half over the next four years, primarily by raising taxes on businesses and the wealthy and by slashing spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration officials said.
In addition to tackling a deficit swollen by the $787 billion stimulus package and other efforts to ease the nation’s economic crisis, the budget blueprint will press aggressively for progress on the domestic agenda Obama outlined during the presidential campaign. This would include key changes to environmental policies and a major expansion of health coverage that he hopes to enact later this year.
A summary of Obama’s budget request for the fiscal year that begins in October will be delivered to Congress on Thursday, with the complete, multi-hundred-page document to follow in April. But Obama plans to unveil his goals for scaling back record deficits and rebuilding the nation’s costly and inefficient health care system tomorrow, when he addresses lawmakers and budget experts at a White House summit on restoring “fiscal responsibility” to Washington.
Yesterday in his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama said he is determined to “get exploding deficits under control” and said his budget request is “sober in its assessments, honest in its accounting, and lays out in detail my strategy for investing in what we need, cutting what we don’t, and restoring fiscal discipline.”
Take a look at the second paragraph again. Obama wants to jack up taxes to cut the deficit, but still wants “a major expansion of health coverage” — even with the entitlement meltdown rapidly approaching. If Obama cares about deficits so much, he should reduce spending, especially as he demands more from Americans’ paychecks to fix the budget hole.
Raising taxes in a recession is about the surest way to ensure its continuance. We’ve seen this over and over again in American history, including the Great Depression. With the budget deficits where they are, permanent tax cuts are almost certainly political suicide, but better to do nothing than to take capital out of the market. Yet that is exactly what Obama proposes, albeit perhaps a bit milder than some may have expected. The top marginal rate will increase from 35% to 39.6% for earners over $250K, and capital gains taxes will go from 15% to 20%, lower than the 28% Obama suggested in the debates last spring.
However, the capital-gains tax is crucial to the economy. Bush lowered it in the midst of the last recession and economic upheaval after 9/11 to prompt investors to put their money at risk. Raising the tax on investment gains will ensure that we see less investment at the moment we need more of it. Jobs get created by investors taking risks, and if the reward on risk taking becomes low enough, they’ll sink their money into safer havens instead of building job-creating businesses.
Obama wants to cut spending from 26% of GDP to 22%, which is a worthy goal, but it should be lower than that. However, he plans to make those cuts primarily in defense, and specifically in Iraq and Afghanistan. The former has settled down to where massive outlays should no longer be necessary and where costs should get budgeted normally, rather than as riders. But Obama insisted that he would fight the war in Afghanistan more robustly than the Bush administration, claiming that we had taken our eyes off the ball there. How does cutting the budget for that front in the war on terror make our effort more robust? We’re not going to win that war on the cheap, as we discovered after the Clinton efforts to do just that.
Basically, we’re going to get a replay of failed liberal economic policies in the next two years — nothing we haven’t seen before, but nothing that worked before, either. It’s the kind of populist nonsense on which Obama got elected, but still far milder than some of the lunatic economic policies we saw during the 1970s. When these taxes go up, expect the economy to slow even more and Obama to miss his targets for revenue, as he and his team have apparently never heard of dynamic tax analysis. When that happens, the GOP will be poised to win back control of the House in 2010.










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Consumer spending will continue to contract as well.
With Obama yelling CRISIS, who would run out and purchase big ticket items?
artist on February 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Slow news day?
Akzed on February 23, 2009 at 9:39 AM
The consequences of electing an historical and economic illiterate to the Presidency.
Cicero43 on February 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM
Bender from Futurama: “We’re boned!”
Yakko77 on February 23, 2009 at 9:40 AM
It’s difficult to get excited about this when you knew it was going to happen six months to a year ago.
Skandia Recluse on February 23, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Yeah, sure. The way to end a recession is to tax business owners out of business. Nanny State. Cradle to Grave. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Now I have to get back to my wife, Morgan Fairchild.
What a bunch of idjits.
kingsjester on February 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Where were you when Bush was throwing on entitlement expansions and wars of choice? Bush was never pressed on these matters because the “wartime president” had our safety to look after. Now our new president, who also happens to be in charge of 2 wars, gets no such treatment.
ernesto on February 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM
This is as surprising as AP posting an Obligatory anti-Sarah headline; a “evolution/Darwin” rules headline or a anti-pro-life headline.
Fuquay Steve on February 23, 2009 at 9:43 AM
I agree with you. This is playing out as many of us knew it would.
The brutality of liberalism is like the brutality of war.
Every generation has to see it for themselves, suffer under it, and ultimately reject it.
Ain’t gonna study Marx no more.
jeff_from_mpls on February 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM
http://vdare.com/guzzardi/090220_california.htm
RealDemocrat on February 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Raising taxes during a sinking economy.
This guy really does want a repeat of The Depression.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Obama and his administration does not have a clue. They are ruining this country. Between the nationalization of banks, raising taxes and this bailing out 5 states who have the majority of foreclosures mortgage troubles, I cant wait to watch the stock market.
Plus..when is Geitner going to announce the details of his big plan?
becki51758 on February 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Where were you when Bush was throwing on entitlement expansions and wars of choice?
……..
Where were Dem Senators?
Busy voting for it.
Next question?
artist on February 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Add to this California and New York raising taxes on the rich, and you have a recipe for disaster.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2009 at 9:45 AM
I’m so glad he’s doing this. Because I was afraid that he wouldn’t deincentivize prosperity enough. I was afraid that even with increasing our deficit by nearly a trillion dollars, the American people would still be able to earn their way out of this mess Washington D.C. is creating. But I don’t have to worry any longer. Thank you Obama for attacking the economy from both ends. I was a little worried, you know, with the whole “govern from the center” thing and all. I was afraid that you wouldn’t stay true to form. But I had hope. I had hope. Thank you.
Weight of Glory on February 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Ed, when you bring in the “Messiah” factor, than past lessons can be thrown out the window. Those practices that have resulted in the ultimate failure of socialism and wealth distribution (but I wax redundant) taime and time again in the apst will now result in ultimate success with Obama leading the charge. Things will just “be different” with The One.
karl9000 on February 23, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Running on Saul Alinksy financial planning Play.By.Play.
Overextend the govt to ensure that it cannot possibly meet the budget. Blame the rich guy. Stir up the uneducated masses to get REALLY PISSED at the rich guy. Print up so much money that the dollar becomes worth half its value, and pay the national debt with it. Then bring on socialism!
100% intentional.
JustTruth101 on February 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM
But at this rate, what will this country look like in 2010…
ladyingray on February 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM
A large number of countries have reduced their taxes in the years since Bush lowered the US rate.
Increasing taxes now, is going to tell anyone with money to invest, that the US is one of the worst places to invest.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM
Will Congress get more than eight hours to peruse Ogabe’s budget plan before it’s voted upon?
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM
What Obama is doing seems confused and illogical until you consider that ridding the United States of its free market economy is exactly what he is endeavoring to do.
Nothing else quire makes sense.
turfmann on February 23, 2009 at 9:47 AM
You watch, the Barakster will weasel out of Afghanistan as soon as he thinks he can get away with it.
Even so, with the bailouts — not to mention his spending plans for socialized health care and ideological energy — his talk of cutting the deficit is a cynical ploy. Who really believes such obvious crapola? The bailouts are sending us into the ditch, and his plans for health and energy will ensure that we stay there face down for years to come.
petefrt on February 23, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Ed,
You are missing the most important point. We were told last week that the economy was in such bad shape that if we didn’t immeditaely inject $800 billion into it it would fall apart. We didn’t even have time to read the bill because the “leaders” said we could not risk waiting. Then the very next week those same leaders propose taking 100′s of billions of dallars OUT OF THE ECONOMY> Something does not compute. The dems logic is flawed. Massively flawed. So either they were lying last week just to get their bill passed. Or they are intentionally sinking the economy now for the “greater good” of wealth redistrubution. I call BS on this whole think. The dems are our enemies. This is not a standard political discussion anymore. The dems are proposing a policy which THEY KNOW WILL DESTROY our economy. They said as much last week. So we have domestic enemies at our door. I think the military should uphold their oath to protect and defend the consitution. It is time for a miltary coup to restore the republic.
unseen on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Are you an idiot, or do you just have no recollection of recent history.
Bush was reamed over his increased spending. Increased spending is the biggest single reason conservatives stayed home in 2006, allowing the Democrats to take over both houses of congress.
MarkTheGreat on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
So if it’s energy policy, we tax gasoline consumption because we want less of it, and we subsidize “green” energy because we want more of it.
If it’s economic policy, we tax wealth because we want less of it, and we subsidize poverty because we want more of it.
Good thinkin’!
trubble on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Reminds me of throwing a kid in the deep end of the pool, and watch him flail away trying to keep afloat.
Money down that he doesn’t tax Hollywood millionaires and millionaire athletes…but someone “passing through” from the middle to upper gets hammered.
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Our Gloomiest-In-Chief keeps up the MO
gatorboy on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
I’m confused. Is this a typo? I thought tax cuts on business and capital gains would help stimulate the economy. How would this be suicidal? Or is it just suicidal for The One with regard to his libtard base?
IrishEi on February 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM
The scare quotes around wartime President suggest that you don’t acknowledge the reality that United States is really at war.
You’re in a private bubble, my friend, with your own little system of precepts, rules and definitions. But see, we can’t enter into that world to argue with you because it’s not the real world. It’s your private fantasy.
We can’t help you unless you venture out. Come on out, ernesto.
jeff_from_mpls on February 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Now our new president, who also happens to be in charge of 2 wars, gets no such treatment.
ernesto on February 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Could that be because he’d rather spend money on a high speed train from Vegas to Disney and failed programs like Head Start instead of those two wars? Oh, and snooker the states into adopting permanent tax increases and entitlement programs.
Quisp on February 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Deliberate policy. Continue the recession in order to have an excuse to further empower government. A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.
We decried Bush for doing that as well.
If you want to cut some defense spending, how about bringing the troops home from Germany.
rbj on February 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Of course it is. Obama may not have had any experience as exec, but neither did most of us. Yet we can see and reason, and understand what works and what doesn’t–to stimulate the economy. That’s what Ed’s whole piece is about.
But I don’t understand why Ed hasn’t considered that the aim isn’t to stimulate the economy. If Republicans play that old game, arguing about exactly where the cap.gains tax should be, WE LOSE. That’s not the game camp Obama is playing.
He’s doing everything right, not wrong, to accomplish greater gov’t control over the entire economy,and a re-defining of the have’s and have-not’s. There’s method to the madness.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
The income tax rates are only half the story.
The new regime will change tax rules that will cause tax burden to go up on small businesses and not-so-rich tax payers.
There are tax write-offs and exemptions that “phase-out” as a tax payer’s income goes up. For example, the “child deduction” starts phasing out somewhere above $100k for a couple with kids. Expect this and other phase-out thresholds to go down.
forest on February 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
jeff_from_mpls on February 23, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Jeff – I always enjoy reading your posts. You are very insightful and right on the mark!
KickandSwimMom on February 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Why do I have a feeling the tax increases won’t be limited to that? There’s no way Obama can reduce the budget deficit by the amount he’s aiming for unless he jacks up taxes on lower income brackets or raises the tax rate to obesene levels for the 250+K earners.
Doughboy on February 23, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Obama is always a folder full of crap that you’re constantly forced to pick through to find where he’s telling the truth.
Taxes will go up, health care becomes socialized,..deficit goes down? Not so much.
Speakup on February 23, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Didn’t see your comment while I was composing mine.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Sure it makes perfect sense if you a Marxist and a Communist Organizer.
But Obama is making some mis-calculations. He considers his election a mandate to do what the left has dreamed about ever since Kennedy.
Most Americans I know are independent and hard-working. They are not lemmings that will jump on the Obama bus because the MSM says they should. Obama is doing to much too fast and it will bite him in the ass.
He may create his Obama army he dreams of but there won’t be enough of them and in the end they will tear themselves apart.
izoneguy on February 23, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Obama is going to cut the deficit he is currently running up. Between the stimulus, tarp 2, the auto bailout, nationalized health care. By the time it’s all said and done the deficit will be about 4 or 5 trillion, if he raises taxes he should be able to cut that to 3 trillion. Our debt will still be on the rise though.
Brat4life on February 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Watch the trending of the defense and intelligence budgets over the next four years — Obama’s going to snip away here and there at operations in the same way the Carter and Clinton White Houses did, leading to things like the botched Iranian rescue attempt in 1980, and of course, Sept. 11. It may not hurt the U.S. until 5-6 years from now, but it will hurt.
jon1979 on February 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Ed,
Obama is the “ELITE” how does he play the populist card? He helped bilk the banks remember he sued Citibank for not giving out sub prime loans. Obama and all his banker buddies, and the hip deep political enablers Franks, Waters,Dodd ect..I don’t think Obama is going to let his buddies get soaked by a populist movement. Obama is trying the old Bill Clinton move. Remember Bill Clinton would co op/adopt the opposition’s position, like NAFTA and WELFARE REFORM, and then change it so it was palatable to the majority, he would take the air out of the opposition’s sails. I am pretty sure the Republicans know with all the Clintonista in Obama’s Administration, the Political Tactics that will be employed. There should be a blog titled The Bill Clinton Handbook.
Dr Evil on February 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Obama is guaranteeing his own failure. Great Presidents generally take on a single issue and make it work. Those trying to do everything fail.
Expanding the welfare state, forcing cap and trade of carbon, shutting down more sources of oil, raising taxes in a recession, pushing universal health care all at once in an economic downturn could not only be fatal to his Presidency, but to the country as well.
drjohn on February 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM
The very statement of “restoring fiscal responsibility” on the heels of signing a trillion dollar debt package is beyond insanity. It takes my breath away.
Then, his brilliant plan to cut the deficit by half after only four years is to tax our business infrastructure out of existence. Liberals never mention cutting the Federal Government by half to balance the budget. Obama, Shumer, Dodd, Pelosi and Reid are power-mad lunatics and only the people of this country can get rid of them. I hope that there is still some aspects of America left in existence when they get the opportunity.
orlandocajun on February 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I guess he’s going to fight in Afghanistan on the cheap – ask our military to take a pay cut – or throw rocks rather than missiles? Or perhaps that is where all those new jobs are going to come from?
katiejane on February 23, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Did you consider the possibility that Obama is the vengeful destroyer, for a lot of reasons?
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM
. . . And the beat goes on.
This shouldn’t surprise anyone. At this point, our only hope is that things get so bad that there is some sort of revolution to start over. The current band of corrupt nitwits in Washington are so clueless or corrupt or both that this cannot hope to get fixed with them at the helm. What continues to both baffle me and piss me off is that people still buy it and tolerate it. That there are many otherwise good people who don’t place liberty as their highest political ideal – but place security and comfort as number one. Sadly, those people will lose all of it – their liberty (its going fast), their comfort (its going fast too) and their security. Even more sadly – I am certainly not the only person or even close to the first person to know this.
King of the Britons on February 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Hey dummy, you just signed a $800 billion spending bill to be paid for with money we don’t have. Uh, that would be borrowed money, as in money exploding the deficits.
fogw on February 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM
This sounds more and more each day like a systematic, methodical knee-capping of our nation’s economical strength. It does not compute. Illogical this deal is (Yoda). I gotta hear Levin’s take on this.
RepubChica on February 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM
jon1979 on February 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM
It is very difficult to explain to non military folks, the “Readiness” concept. They don’t understand that a strong defense has to be maintained including “Training” and “Intelligence Collecting” The Democrats are plain crazy if they think the Majority of Americans are going to go back to slumbering after 9/11. This Iranian problem started with Carter, and it isn’t going to help if Obama adopts his Failed Foreign policy.
Dr Evil on February 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Hey Nimrod… Urkel-McObama-Hitler wouldn’t be President if we had given Bush and the GOP a walk on their spending…the only reason Obama won is that conservatives stayed home.
Caper29 on February 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Cut spending? Tighten your belts? What are you a taxpayer?
“zero down financing, I am the dancing queen.”
Banks would not have made subprime loans unless they were forced to do so.
Put the blame where it belongs, our social engineering liberals in the federal government.
If you cannot afford to buy a home you rent, that is fair.
The failur of subprime loan was the first domino which was toppled by $150 per barrel oil. Banks failed because they could no longer launder their bad subprime debt on Wall Street. The banks would not have had to launder these subprime debts, if they were not forced to make the subprime loans in the first place. The blame can be spread, but this mess started with the federal government.
Angry Dumbo on February 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I am getting more and more angry about this administration. Where the h*ll does Obama think he is going to get all this money from? Eventually, the economoy will be so broken that even the so-called wealthy will be grasping for every dollar they can. Drudge has a pathetic headline of Hillary begging the Chinese to buy our bonds and they are balking.
Obama claims to be helping the middle-class. How does he figure that? The mortgage scheme, the TARP scheme, etc. does nothing but reward the top scum and the bottom scum with the middle picking up the tab. My husband and I have vowed that if a protest march comes within 100 miles of our area we are going to be there. If by some miracle the silent majority awakens and takes action with a protest in Washington then we ALL need to be there.
KickandSwimMom on February 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Considering he’s just been out the gate for one hot month on the rampage–Yes!!
RepubChica on February 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM
I thought he was trying to cut the deficit in half
I’m confused
How do we do that by adding more spending to the plan.
Maybe I took the wrong economics and math classes.
Brat4life on February 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Why does Obama have a team of lawyers whose sole duty is to prevent access to his immigration, U.S. naturalization, passport and college records? Why has he sealed those records from all public access? Why has he spent over $800,000 in legal fees already to hide his personal records? What information is he so desperate to hide from the American public?
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Why they think this will somehow allow business to hire people is beyond me.
mankai on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
We’re screwed.
CP on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Some folks here are saying Obama is doing this intentionally to bring on the utopia.
But I hold out hope. Can you honestly imagine 300 million people throwing their arms in the air, sighing “oh well, I communism it is!” ???
I can’t.
I read an essay by Pope John Paul II where he speculated that it was good that communism didn’t infest the USA in the 20th century because we were not prepared for the struggle, being a young nation; the people of Poland, in contrast, were more prepared because they had a culture, and therefore some measure of resilience.
Perhaps this century is the first real test of America, our turn to stand up like our Eastern European brothers did in the 20th century. “Now we are engaged in a great culture war, testing whether this nation, or any nation so conceived… can long endure.”
jeff_from_mpls on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
We need to file for that divorce as soon as possible!
sheriff246 on February 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Then arguing about the cap. gains rate is like arguing over where one enemy bullet went.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM
New Messiah math : If a rich person creates a business that employs 100 people at $30,000 and he earns $300,000 in salary and bonus; how much should he pay in taxes? Answer – depends if he is a cabinet nominee or not.
Fuquay Steve on February 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Wars of choice. I could see ernesto arguing Iraq. But asscrackistan?
blatantblue on February 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM
+1!
Wife files for divorce.
Husband beheads wife.
Location Iraq? Iran? Saudi Arabia?
No. Buffalo, NY.
Wake up and smell the war, ernesto.
Traffic Cop Timmy on February 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Half of those 300 million want it, or think they do. You’re comment suggests civil war to me, not revolution.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM
But Ed, this isn’t class warfare. The Messiah is so certain that he has the support of the progressive rich and business leaders that supported his candidacy that he can do these things and they will voluntarily pay up and keep right on investing. Indeed the entire nation will rally to his side and offer up our riches to help people with too big mortgages, vacation homes they can no longer afford, etc., — The Messiah has asked us to so we must.
And remember even if it doesn’t work and the nation continues to slip into ruin, he’s still the greatest president ever, just ask him.
johnsteele on February 23, 2009 at 10:07 AM
Basically, the definition of Obama…
That’s because that’s what it is.
Aronne on February 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Also, the military will play a role, one way or another.
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 10:08 AM
There are only three ways the government can “make” money:
1. Increase taxes
2. Print more money
3. Borrow it
A truly free market is the only solution to this mess. But that does not jibe with The One’s Marxist goals.
IrishEi on February 23, 2009 at 10:09 AM
All those who are surprised by this….raise your hands.
RadioFreeUSA on February 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM
GOP should stop fantasising about 2010. By that time, Obama would surelymake the USA into a totalitarian state.
promachus on February 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Real Name: Barry Soetoro – legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then a citizen of Indonesia — possibly naturalized later as a U.S. citizen living in Hawaii — how much longer can you hide the documents, Barry boy??? We have people after the documents now … the reward money is on the table…
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM
BINGO, give this man a ceegar.
johnsteele on February 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM
All you fools should realize Bambi can be removed from office if someone will get his immigration records and Indonesian passport copy.
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Can’t you just see Soros, rubbing his hands together? If he had a moustache he’d be twisting it in his fingers like the typical villian.
One other point….. Does it seem like the liberal elites have intentionally dumbed down their electorate with the intention of creating a perfect storm for a class warfare?
pjean on February 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Bambi was a citizen of Indonesia. He is probably already being blackmailed by groups who could reveal his past.
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Just as they did every two years in the thirties, right?
burt on February 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Where were you when Bush was throwing on entitlement expansions and wars of choice? Bush was never pressed on these matters because the “wartime president” had our safety to look after. Now our new president, who also happens to be in charge of 2 wars, gets no such treatment.
ernesto on February 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM
——-
I was here, calling Bush out on it.
Where were *YOU*?
Mew
acat on February 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM
What will the military do when they are told to fire on the citizenry?
Key West Reader on February 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM
FYI – the Obama “birth certificate” shown in this article is not authentic. First of all. there were no computer-printed certificates in 1961, the year Obama was born. So why does he have a computer-printed birth document, when real birth 1961 birth certificates were produced with typewriters? In addition, an authentic birth certificate states the name of hospital of birth, the name of the attending physician (with signature), and the address of the parents. The document Obama presents as his “birth certificate” does not contain any of that essential information. Why?
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Message to US military: do NOT follow order from Obama – he is an usurper to the POTUS … his orders are invalid
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Searcher, because it is a Certificate of Live Birth. Not a birth certificate.. At least that’s my understanding.
Key West Reader on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Even if those exist, that will give us Biden and Pelosi. How is this an improvement?
I thought Mr. President was just being economically ignorant. However, as some of you have brought out, this might be on purpose. That is a scary though.
kingsjester on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM
And will this soaking include his friends in hollyweird, rich lib politicians, and other left wing millionaires? Or is it just aimed at registered republicans? I’m assuming, the latter…
ErinF on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Did you consider the possibility that Obama is the vengeful destroyer, for a lot of reasons?
JiangxiDad on February 23, 2009 at 9:59 AM
I have indeed. One wonders whether Obama wants to destroy this nation and rise as the Mullah of the new one.
drjohn on February 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM
I remember democrats whining about deficits. I remember fiscal cons telling Bush that new entitlements were dumb. I remember fiscal cons complaining about TARP.
Now that the deficits are over a trillion dollars and money being thrown into giant holes, saying that deficits are okay and spending is needed. And it’s wartime.
So maybe the problem is that you opposed deficits for the wrong reasons, no?
lorien1973 on February 23, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Thanks KickandSwimMom, I always like what you have to say. Plus, your great screen name tells what you’re made of, says a lot about you. Dare I say, you’re a great American!
jeff_from_mpls on February 23, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Obama is a pawn, being blackmailed to destroy this nation, by people who have access to his immigration and citizenship history.
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
So how can he be stopped? Do we just bend over and take this?
Key West Reader on February 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
You won’t be laughing, Bambi, when your Indonesian passport and immigration records are finally made public.
searcher484 on February 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
These progresives think we think like them (i.e., our party is right). One of the most damaging things that happened during the W administration was him being labeled a conservative. Minus the tax cuts, this guy was the complete oppostive of a fiscal conservative.
WashJeff on February 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
It begins.
pseudonominus on February 23, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Welcome Back, Carter
WisCon on February 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM
This should be obvious to everyone everywhere.
Our military is the best in the world bcs of DRILLING & PRACTICE.
When the Continental Army was drilled & practiced, they performed far better in battle than they ever had before.
This was probably one of the critical moments in our Rev War.
I believe our military will survive this, like they did the Clinton years-but I know morale will go way down. I remember soldiers’ morale in the military during Clinton-9 out 10 men were disgusted with their CIC. I assume the disgust will be even greater with Obama.
Badger40 on February 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM
All I can say is what a massive tool!!
Its fairly obvious that Obama never took economics 101 at Harvard or Columbia. (he was probably too busy doing lines of coke and reading Alinsky or something)
Dreadnought223 on February 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Forcing the right to fight for the rich that never pays their share.
10 is going to be a disaster for the gop.
getalife on February 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Come on. People that have that info are probably either dead or will mysteriously disappear.
Badger40 on February 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM
JUST KEEP GIVING THEM ROPE…
WE WON’T HAVE TO DO A THING, THEY WILL TOTALLY IMPLODE ALL ON THEIR OWN.
IT WILL BE A LOVELY THING TO WITNESS…
Ltlgeneral64 on February 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM
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