Obama plans “soak the rich” class-warfare economics
posted at 9:37 am on February 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. And those who repeat failed policies of the past are doomed to failure themselves, and the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We can apply all of these proverbs to what the Washington Post reports as the next phase of Deadbeatonomics, in which Obama will try the old populist “soak the rich” policies in order to close a deficit that he himself exploded in the past two weeks:
President Obama is putting the finishing touches on an ambitious first budget that seeks to cut the federal deficit in half over the next four years, primarily by raising taxes on businesses and the wealthy and by slashing spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, administration officials said.
In addition to tackling a deficit swollen by the $787 billion stimulus package and other efforts to ease the nation’s economic crisis, the budget blueprint will press aggressively for progress on the domestic agenda Obama outlined during the presidential campaign. This would include key changes to environmental policies and a major expansion of health coverage that he hopes to enact later this year.
A summary of Obama’s budget request for the fiscal year that begins in October will be delivered to Congress on Thursday, with the complete, multi-hundred-page document to follow in April. But Obama plans to unveil his goals for scaling back record deficits and rebuilding the nation’s costly and inefficient health care system tomorrow, when he addresses lawmakers and budget experts at a White House summit on restoring “fiscal responsibility” to Washington.
Yesterday in his weekly radio and Internet address, Obama said he is determined to “get exploding deficits under control” and said his budget request is “sober in its assessments, honest in its accounting, and lays out in detail my strategy for investing in what we need, cutting what we don’t, and restoring fiscal discipline.”
Take a look at the second paragraph again. Obama wants to jack up taxes to cut the deficit, but still wants “a major expansion of health coverage” — even with the entitlement meltdown rapidly approaching. If Obama cares about deficits so much, he should reduce spending, especially as he demands more from Americans’ paychecks to fix the budget hole.
Raising taxes in a recession is about the surest way to ensure its continuance. We’ve seen this over and over again in American history, including the Great Depression. With the budget deficits where they are, permanent tax cuts are almost certainly political suicide, but better to do nothing than to take capital out of the market. Yet that is exactly what Obama proposes, albeit perhaps a bit milder than some may have expected. The top marginal rate will increase from 35% to 39.6% for earners over $250K, and capital gains taxes will go from 15% to 20%, lower than the 28% Obama suggested in the debates last spring.
However, the capital-gains tax is crucial to the economy. Bush lowered it in the midst of the last recession and economic upheaval after 9/11 to prompt investors to put their money at risk. Raising the tax on investment gains will ensure that we see less investment at the moment we need more of it. Jobs get created by investors taking risks, and if the reward on risk taking becomes low enough, they’ll sink their money into safer havens instead of building job-creating businesses.
Obama wants to cut spending from 26% of GDP to 22%, which is a worthy goal, but it should be lower than that. However, he plans to make those cuts primarily in defense, and specifically in Iraq and Afghanistan. The former has settled down to where massive outlays should no longer be necessary and where costs should get budgeted normally, rather than as riders. But Obama insisted that he would fight the war in Afghanistan more robustly than the Bush administration, claiming that we had taken our eyes off the ball there. How does cutting the budget for that front in the war on terror make our effort more robust? We’re not going to win that war on the cheap, as we discovered after the Clinton efforts to do just that.
Basically, we’re going to get a replay of failed liberal economic policies in the next two years — nothing we haven’t seen before, but nothing that worked before, either. It’s the kind of populist nonsense on which Obama got elected, but still far milder than some of the lunatic economic policies we saw during the 1970s. When these taxes go up, expect the economy to slow even more and Obama to miss his targets for revenue, as he and his team have apparently never heard of dynamic tax analysis. When that happens, the GOP will be poised to win back control of the House in 2010.
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This guy is well on his way to completely destroying the country and based on todays market results, it looks like he’s about half way there.
rplat on February 23, 2009 at 5:07 PM
I gotta admit that capital punishment for those CEOs who tainted the powdered milk supplies isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Nevertheless, it doesn’t really matter. The filthy liar in the White House is going to destroy private enterprise and punish those of us who live within our means.
highhopes on February 23, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Susanboo, appreciate your comments, particularly about the changeling media.
I think bottom line is I just hate waiting around for the shoe to drop, ie the missles or dirty bombs or the sound of marxist jack-booted thugs and gangs marching down our streets. If we can figure out how to be pro-active and force the issues and stay out of jail at the same time…too much to expect(?)
kooziegirl on February 23, 2009 at 5:12 PM
The filthy liar in the White House is going to destroy private enterprise and punish those of us who live within our means.
I’d say that about sums it up. 92% of Americans are still working now, what will that percentage be in six months?
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM
No, the US won’t be sacked by marauding barbarians, simply disintegrating into small fiefdoms for various warlords to fight over. A more apt analogy for what lies in store is post-WW1 Germany.
First comes the economic ruin that will be the inevitable result of Leftist social tinkering; then the fear, desperation, and panic. That fear and desperation will turn into extreme anger as white Americans – and Europeans, as they’ll be in the same boat – say to themselves, “How could this possibly have happened to our civilization, when in the lifetime of my grandparents, the West stood unchallenged astride the world?”
Then the scapegoating will begin: “It’s the lazy blacks!”…”It’s the dirty Mexicans!”….”It’s the greedy Jews!” And that’s when the Far Right demagogues – the BNPs, the Front Nationals – begin to sound more and more reasonable.
As much as I hate to stoop to movie symbolism, there’s a great line from last summer’s The Dark Knight that sums it up:
The only alternative that will save us from that fate is a military intervention, akin to those that occur in Turkey every few decades.
rvastar on February 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Same could be said for the French Revolution – and the supposed Alphas suffered for it.
sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I have been itching to get arrested for about a year now. Made it my 2008 New Year’s Resolution and failed. I am ready to march on Washington, dump tea in the Great Lakes, or take part in any other innovative strategies for civil disobedience that will get people to THINK about what is happening to our country.
My adult children think that I’m kidding, but I’m not.
DrStock on February 23, 2009 at 5:18 PM
I am missing your point.
DrStock on February 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Obama’s stimulus package gives immediate lie to that claim.
Let’s face it. Obama had a history of wasting Chicago Annenburg Challenge funds via the Woods Foundation with no improvement of students’ achievement. The Allgren (sp?) Gardens housing fiaaco is another case in point of Obama’s fiscal inability.
Pouring tax dollars through myriad governmental bureaus dissipates whatever good that it might heve accomplished.
onlineanalyst on February 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM
If you have to kill the CEO to get the point, there are serious problems that have been long left unaddressed. It also doesn’t address situations like Meitai Plastic Manufacturing – where they never bring those folks to death for their deeds.
What does the nation and its citizens have to do to restore a structural loss of trust between business and individual?
I’m not talking about transactions, but the larger picture of the reputation of business. Something has to feed these attacks that have suddenly been unleashed. You don’t just have people want to attack businesss with such vigor without a reason. I’ll give you a hint – it could have been Edwards in that office and people would have done the same thing. People just wanted someone who could be counted on in attacking business and not capitulate like Clinton.
sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM
The Alphas in that case were the French aristocracy. The Betas were the ones who brought them to the guillotines.
sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Instead of crashing planes into buildings his mission is to crash the stock market.
thudlike on February 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM
The Alphas in that case were the French aristocracy. The Betas were the ones who brought them to the guillotines.
sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I suspected you were thinking along those lines, but there is a huge difference in the U.S. at the present time. Most of the Alphas are not ‘born’ into the upper middle class or the upper class. Here often Alphas were once Betas, and worked hard to achieve. Now there is a full-blown war against achievers.
The Betas are, in many cases, those who have been held down by government policies that reward them for being non-achievers. Sen. Moynihan warned of this, and his party failed to listen.
DrStock on February 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM
That’s quite a simplistic explanation. What Greek letter do you use for the members of the Cult of the Supreme Being?
BTW, who does this sound like?
Buy Danish on February 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM
The proper purpose of a just government is not “feeding attacks that have been unleashed.” People have always wanted to attack businesses. In earlier times, those people were known as “brigands” and “pirates.” Government is responsible for protecting businesses from people who wish to attack them, just as it is responsible for protecting people from predatory business practices.
Unfortunately, when the government decided to become an active participant in the financial markets, it necessarily abandoned the position of impartial referee, and corrupted its regulatory authority. A government doing its job should have acted to prevent the kind of risky loans that created the Fannie Mae crisis, not require them.
A loss of consumer confidence in business is only half the story, and it’s not the really deadly half. What gets you from a recession to a depression is when the businesses lose confidence in the consumers.
Doctor Zero on February 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Agreed
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 5:51 PM
If the Masters had taken control, the Alphas would have been destroyed and all that were left would have been the Master-Betas…which is basically what we have in congress.
right2bright on February 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM
and all that were left would have been the Master-Betas
Easy now, this is a family friendly blog.
*whew*
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Boy, you guys don’t get it do you? The Left has everyone convinced that a serious recession is really a depression, and now they mean to keep it going as long as possible. They know it worked for (”just do something!”) FDR and they are going to get theirs. As long as they keep passing laws and telling lies, the public will eat it up. By the time America wakes up, it will be too late. China is not going to be bombed into rubble like the rest of the world was after WW II, and it will be the new superpower.
FalseProfit on February 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Same thing ..
Liberals are Raping the entire us econonmy
Ask the swiss how many hollywood celebs have offshore bank accounts.. and they all of a sudden get very thight lipped..
but the thing that really pissed me off is all of these liberal morons simply cannot ADD..
take the total number of rich people in the west
Take all of their money and just STEAL it all..
even then you might come up with a total of 1 trilliobn dollars
but the current debt is 9 trillion and not includign the porkulus bill ..
So how exactly again are the rich supposed to pay for this..
dont get me wrong if it was possible to tax say
ALL of hollywood actors and taking all of their money pay off the debt i would do it..
but i know by simple math it isnt nearly enough,..
jcila on February 23, 2009 at 6:48 PM
I wonder how a poll today would work out on the “If the election were held today…” topic? I bet Obama would lose by 10 points…just me
winston on February 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Guess what Barry,
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High tax rates don’t soak the rich.
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It changes their behavior
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and results in less revenue not more.
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Is everyone in Washington brain dead or am I missing something?
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Tax rates should be optimized to generate maximum revenue.
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They’ve only had since WW2 to find the rates that produce the most.
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Try a flat rate of 12% and watch the money pour in.
esblowfeld on February 23, 2009 at 7:39 PM
I don’t know why you guys even debate this fool. When I argued with him about Black crime rates and Black on White crime, DTMH said that he didn’t believe that the Government even kept those stats! When I supplied proof, DTMH insisted that I supply only Government Proof. When I supplied Government raw data proof, he threw a Sissy fit and called me a “Stormfront Member”.
Use him to sharpen your arguments if you must, but don’t get your blood pressure up.
GunRunner on February 23, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I was just reading a liberal site that was talking about the high grades Obama was getting on the handling of the economy.
We all know what is coming down the road! I think one of his first ‘environmental’ initiates will be “cap and trade”.
He will use this kind of corporate tax policy to fund all his initiatives.
Unfortunately, cap and trade will put the nail in our economic coffin, even more rapidly than all the other taxes hthe Democrats shove down our throats.
Sad but true. If you think your 401K took a dive over the last several months, you have seen nothing yet!
jerseyjoe99982002 on February 23, 2009 at 7:53 PM
If Obama jacks up the top rate from 35 to 39%, then it will be at the same point as Clinton when he balanced the budget. Obama will get us out of the boondoggle of Iraq which will save us billions. Obama will get us on green energy which will save us spending 600 billion a year on foreign oil. We tried the gop way for 8 long years and it almost destroyed us. My favorite Sean Hanitty quote “elections have consequences.” If Obama fails he will be a one-termer, I say he suceeds. Bet on it.
athensboy on February 23, 2009 at 7:58 PM
better get the smithy working on armor, swords and axes, and the fletcher bundling arrows. We are going to need a bunch though because in combat a trained longbowman can use 10-20 a minute. I guess my grandkids will be flying the KC-135 in 50 years.
cobrakai99 on February 23, 2009 at 8:02 PM
HEY DEATH to media Hacks,,, you mentioned reverend Wright but not sure why his is called a reverend when I have never heard the man Preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. All Ive heard him do is preach social stuff that usally belongs in the non religious sectors. If you knew the Gospel, Christ was all concerned where one’es souls went to after this life and was less concerned with our temporal life here on earth. Granted I’ve never heard all of Wright’s sermons but my spirit does not bare witness to him or any of his church people. I have no trouble with the gov’t running serveral sectors but I most certainly don’t want to lose any of our rights such as the first or second amendment. Remember dissent is a great privlege to living in a republic such as this.
garydt on February 23, 2009 at 8:04 PM
What do you think the markets are doing? Going down for the heck of it? They’re betting that every policy Obama is proposing is going to structurally damage the economy.
venividivici on February 23, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Greatest movie ever. Oh, and this Mexican agrees that your scenario is not that far-fetched. Judgement is not that far away. What white America has to understand is that you’ve all been betrayed by politicians that willfully allowed this country to be flooded by people that have chosen not to integrate themselves. They suck at the teat of the socialists that promise them not only amnesty, but to reclaim the homeland of their forefathers. I can’t see this ending good. The only thing that can stave off balkanization is a return to our constitutional principles via a peaceful tax revolt and revolution, that is the only way. Less than that and we are headed for some trouble.
I’m thinking of starting an organization called American-Mexicans Against Blood Sucking Socialists! What do you think? It’s got kind of a ring to it.
Remember me white America, when you begin to single out the brownies that there are a few of us that believe in the Providential founding principles of this nation. Besides, I make a hell of a carne asada and my family has a killer taco recipe handed down for generations, we can come in handy! :)
True_King on February 23, 2009 at 8:10 PM
President O’Bama this evening
The guy is playing with monopoly money and thinks he has the moral high ground……just amazing….
Starlink on February 23, 2009 at 9:03 PM
And yet, as of 2/22:
63% approval rating for President Obama
77% of Americans optimistic about the next 4 years with Obama as President
63% say republican opposed the stimulus package mostly for political reasons
benny shakar on February 23, 2009 at 9:07 PM
We saw Bush bring in record tax revenues with his tax cuts… so let’s jack up taxes on the job creators when we need them to create jobs the most… is that the philosophy, Barry?
Again folks, he’s not stupid, he knows precisely what he’s doing. Wake up, there isn’t much time left to take this country back.
RightWinged on February 23, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Next address by “THE ONE”
My fellow Amerikans, let me ummm ahh, make one thing clear, doto uhmmm themessof ummm thelast administration ahhhhh, andthe ummmm highdemandforenergy,ummmmmm andthehighcost of energay,ahhhhh ummmm thelight umm attheendofthetunnel, ahhh,willbe turned off.
M-14 2go on February 23, 2009 at 9:17 PM
awful early for you to get all excited my boy
yes America has many idiots. 60% or so did not know the Dems controlled congress prior to the last election. these are the types you stand with? you dem types are truly ignorant.
i laugh at you
Jamson64 on February 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM
right on target
Jamson64 on February 23, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Drawing the wrath of a couple dozen kooky bloggers only makes the fundamental revision of our national priorities that much sweeter.
benny shakar on February 23, 2009 at 9:24 PM
interesting that you completely blow past the point that the electorate isn’t even as smart as you.
–truly laughable
Jamson64 on February 23, 2009 at 9:25 PM
well I am sorry I was kind of cruel in the last post
sorry America… you are smarter than benny ….ignorant …but smarter.
Jamson64 on February 23, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Funny the selectivity of polling.
Consumer confidence trending down. nice job O
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/indexes/rasmussen_consumer_index
Jamson64 on February 23, 2009 at 9:33 PM
We may be different from them, but there are many people who are just as patriotic, and yes, willing to die for their Country as they were during the revolution. They are known as our Military men and women, and they are dying in our war on terror. And yeah, I guess that is a different war then the domestic one that is being fought at home, but they are both for the same thing; our freedom and our way of life. It’s just that currently, we are not dying for our beliefs here on our soil, unfortunately that could change just like it did during the civil war, I pray it never comes to that.
Yes Randy, you are correct, they had a king back then. I was just trying to make a point and used the wrong gender of ruler!
Susanboo on February 23, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Can you say selective polling? Those lib pollsters word those questions “just so”, then they poll 50% Dems, 30% Indeps, and 20% Repubs. Half of those polled don’t even know what is going on in their own Country, they are still standing there with their hands out, waiting for “The One” to fulfill his prophecy of free healthcare, jobs and food, that he made during the election.
Heck, Obama still thinks he’s on the campaign trail, Biden, Pelosi and Reid are running the Country, while he flies around on Airforce One with Michelle. He calls in once in awhile to give instructions to his minions as to how much money they should take the taxpayers for, then jets off somewhere else. Today he took a break and went back to the White House to make sure everyone was spending the trillions of pork he’s doling out, responsibly.
Susanboo on February 23, 2009 at 10:18 PM
It doesn’t help when they lose confidence in citizens as employees. Never mind when there is no problem in selectively enforcing immigration law and calling all critics xenophobic.
sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Someone with access should explain patiently to our idiot-savant-in-chief that x% x 0 = 0.
hillbillyjim on February 24, 2009 at 4:42 AM
First, the only reason Clinton appeared to balance the budget was beceause he included the SS surpluses. SS is now in deficit. So that trick won’t work twice.
Second, immediately after Clinton raised taxes, the economy started to slow. And that was in a healthy economy, thanks to Reagan/Bush.
A war which has dramatically curtailed world wide terrorism is hardly a boondoggle.
Secondly, the war is over and would have been winding down regardless of who won in November.
Typical liberal logic. Spend hundreds of trillions of dollars, in order to save a few billion.
When did we try the GOP way? The Democrats in congress filibustered every major initiative.
MarkTheGreat on February 24, 2009 at 8:29 AM
Hey…anyone seen DeathToMediaHacks?
I’m still waiting on that ever-elusive Lefty explanation as to exactly HOW the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act is to blame for the mortgage/financial/economic crisis.
Anytime now, DTMH.
You know, another thing I find odd is this: where are the Congressional hearings? Why on earth would you suppose that the Dems — who’ve never seen a hearing they couldn’t wait to convene if it could hurt Republicans or big business — aren’t interested in having hearings to demonstrate Republicans’ culpability for the biggest economic crisis to hit the world since the Great Depression?
Oh what, oh what could the answer be?
rvastar on February 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM
OT: Play Barack-o-Bingo
Yakko77 on February 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM
LMLWSAO – good one hbjim.
“…somebody with access” that would be msm and the leftist hordes.
“…explain patiently…” is there anyone out there who continues to have a smidge of patience remaining for this crap?
Another good one.
kooziegirl on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM
You go guy. One of the answers is: waaaaahhhh the republicans did it too, wahhhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhh bad (or criminal or stupid or evil) behavior is always excused if somebody else does it tooooooooo wahhhhhhwahhhhhhwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
kooziegirl on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Way to much logic, reason and fact to appeal to DTMH.
KOS-M-O trolls and pod people derive oxygen from half-truths, myths, disinformation. These facts will only serve to enrage and confuse them.
kooziegirl on February 24, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Before I click the link, is that going to be anything like whack-a-mole? After watching that load of fiction tonight, I really need some Whack-a-mole.
El Cazador on February 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM
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