Good news: U.S. to pledge $900 million to rebuild Gaza
posted at 8:50 pm on February 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via JWF, who calls it a different kind of “stimulus package.” After flushing $800 billion down the toilet on the stimulus, flushing another $900 mil in a doomed attempt to buy goodwill from a revanchist anti-western culture seems almost like a bargain.
The money, which needs U.S. congressional approval, will be distributed through U.N. and other bodies and not via the militant group Hamas, which rules Gaza, said one official.
“This money is for Gaza and to help strengthen the Palestinian Authority. It is not going to go to Hamas,” said the official, who asked not to be named as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton planned to announce the funding at a donors’ conference in Egypt next week…
Clinton’s bid to get “substantial” funds could face an uphill battle in Congress because Hamas continues to rule Gaza and the U.S. focus is on its own souring economy…
The United States wants Abbas’s PA to play a central role in the reconstruction effort in Gaza, hoping this will increase its influence in the Hamas stronghold. Washington is also putting pressure on other donors to bolster Abbas.
Wasn’t one of the left’s chief criticisms of Israel’s Gaza operation that there was no Plan B if Hamas disintegrated? Fatah couldn’t ride in as the white knight on the backs of Israeli tanks to restore order or else they’d be seen as stooges and collaborators, we were told, not unreasonably. How is this de facto bribe of Gazans by Uncle Sam to restore Abbas to authority any different? And why would Hamas take the chance of letting the Palestinian Authority back into the strip knowing the threat it might pose to their hegemony? What am I missing here?










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Ditto to you for yours!
fumpbump on February 24, 2009 at 12:14 AM
How true that is. Sigh.
apacalyps on February 24, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Well, this is the 35th straight night that I will be going to bed with a severe tension headache! Of course, with what this administration is doing, it is the other end that hurts more! Now the Israelis join is in THAT pain!
fumpbump on February 24, 2009 at 12:17 AM
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900 million dollars could buy about 1.8 billion bullets. Or probably a million tons of plastic explosive.
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HAMAS likes bullets and explosives. Instead of giving them the money and making them work ordering and buying the bullets and explosive–WE BUY IT AND DELIVER IT (VIA GUNS AND ROCKETS) into Gaza. This would save a lot of work for our HAMAS friends.
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Peace would be well served by shooting and blowing up all HAMAS members and their supporters.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on February 24, 2009 at 12:22 AM
O/T–but, somehow, not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZzRB461bY&NR=1
smellthecoffee on February 24, 2009 at 12:43 AM
No one asked the taxpayers or even think that the US taxpayers want $900 mil of their money going to a people who elected a terrorist group to rule them, who want Israel wiped off the map, burn American flags chanting “death to America”, and who would probably dance in the streets if another 9/11 occurred, as they did then. And they will hate the infidel US just as much after the money.
These damn politicians love to get applauded handing out millions of other peoples money – your money – to about any foreign cause that they can come up with. I say the US should keep the $900 mil and let the wealthy Muslim countries give it.
Chessplayer on February 24, 2009 at 12:53 AM
I’m irked. This administration loves everything evil and hates everything good.
Maxx on February 24, 2009 at 12:59 AM
This is off the subject. But nothing like a awesome video of our Military. The song ROCKS!! With all this crap we have to worry about. Enjoy it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imUnHTE9Ir0
sheebe on February 24, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Just returning a favor to those who helped finance his campaign. I hope the Jews who voted for Obama can sleep at night.
chunderroad on February 24, 2009 at 2:07 AM
So true. On Saturday I wrote Gellar, Atlas Shrugs. Told her that I pray for Israel, and I am ashamed of the Jews that voted for the Demon. She answered me back in five minutes. Was a real cool response. Made my heart feel good. You are right. A lot of organizations funded him.
sheebe on February 24, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Maybe one day this country will rebuild the ghettos here in the US……..on second thought, nahhh. $900 mil to Hamas.
hiphopconservative on February 24, 2009 at 2:49 AM
$900,000,000 would go a long way in New Orleans or Appalachia, or would put out a lot of wildfires this summer-
I wonder how Israel feels about Obama’s Gaza Plan?
onehorsephoto on February 24, 2009 at 3:11 AM
Great. So sock puppet is now PAYING the palestinians to buy more missiles to lob as the Israelis.
Great.
Who’s hand is in this sock puppet? I want it cut off. NOW.
Spiritk9 on February 24, 2009 at 3:29 AM
This is outrageous that I can’t help but wonder if it can be blocked in Congress.
1) Why should the US have to pay a billion dollars to rebuild Gaza when it will still be run by Hamas, an organization which refuses to accept any peaceful solution to Middle East problems, works for Iran, and therefore supports the destruction of the United States?
2) The Obama Administration is sure to claim that the money won’t go to Hamas, but even Bush’s money for Gaza went through UNWRA, which is basically in partnership with Hamas. Nothing happens in Gaza without Hamas approval. UN Aid shipments are stolen by Hamas and re-sold to the civilian population there to buy arms. If anyone thinks that Suzie UN Bureacrat is going to demand an accounting from Hamas they are smoking the good stuff on their break.
3) What is the point in “rebuilding”? Doesn’t this simply reward violence and terrorism by Hamas? Let them stew in their own pot, we aren’t going to change the dynamic of Gaza by bailing out Iranian sponsored terrorists.
DaMav on February 24, 2009 at 3:55 AM
Screw Hamastan, send every person in the US a check for $3 million then we don’t have to worry about a recession or some housing meltdown.
Obama, our Commander-in-Competent
…brother.
Earlg on February 24, 2009 at 5:28 AM
Not one U.S. dollar! This is insane. Let the Arabs rebuild (rearm) Gaza.
GFW on February 24, 2009 at 6:33 AM
A billion to reward Hamas?????????!!!!!!!!!!
This insanity turns “tea parties” into lynch mobs (oops, better not use the expression “lynch mob.” [sarc]).
Seriously, someone, Santelli, Varney, Rush has to be screaming about this.
J.J. Sefton on February 24, 2009 at 6:46 AM
As long as the money is passing through the UN (good ol’ UNRWA?), it will end up in the hands of Hamas. How much of this will then be passed onto their masters in Iran and Syria?
Even if any infrastructure does get built with the money, it will be vaporized when the next round of fighting starts again in 6 to 12 months. Then more money is donated. Rinse. Repeat.
The Safety Guy on February 24, 2009 at 6:47 AM
It needs Congressional approval before it can happen.
Write, call, e-mail your Congressperson today and demand that they say NO to this insanity.
AZCoyote on February 24, 2009 at 6:53 AM
Oh goodie! My tax dollars are going to pay for Qassam rockets.
wfiguy on February 24, 2009 at 6:54 AM
Acting President Obama is just well, ya Know, acting. HAmas probably won’t see the money, just the bombs and bullets it buys.
Message to Bibi — Roll tanks
tarpon on February 24, 2009 at 7:16 AM
More Primal Screaming!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Try it. It does help.
sdd on February 24, 2009 at 7:21 AM
Man, where is he finding all of this money???
stenwin77 on February 24, 2009 at 7:21 AM
Why not, we give domestic anti American groups like “acorn” 2.4 billion, we might as well fund the end of America on the foreign front, too.
Alden Pyle on February 24, 2009 at 7:42 AM
He wants to cut the deficit in half, but send $900 million to Gaza????? What a bunch of BS!
oh..just heard “officials promise the money wont reach hamas” Like they havent broken any promises before. Hamas stole supplies off UN trucks for themselves..stole them away from the Palestinian people. How can they assure us that this wont happen with the money? umm…they cant!
I guess I’ll be calling my congressman today.
becki51758 on February 24, 2009 at 7:44 AM
Can’t we put the $900M to a better use??? We could burn it to heat the White House – that would certainly produce more benefits than using it in Gaza.
happi on February 24, 2009 at 7:52 AM
It’s Fat Tuesday, boys and girls, and so tomorrow is Ash Wednesday and the beginning of Lent.
What better place to go and say goodbye for 40 days than the site of a militant atheist? I have much to reflect upon, and much to seek repentance for and be sanctified.
Tonight it begins.
Jaibones on February 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM
Is this the results of Hamas sending Obama a letter through John Kerry this week?
Dr Evil on February 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Rather than send money, why not send 2 million workers to clean it all up. If we have illegals in our country looking for work, batch them up and drop them off in Gaza, after they have served two years in clean up efforts make them citizens as time served for their country.
workingforpigs on February 24, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Just when you think it isn’t possible for this man to get any more fiscally stupid, he does. I guess he hasn’t noticed that we don’t have this money. This guy is becoming an embarrassment.
jeanie on February 24, 2009 at 8:35 AM
He can pay for it with is American Depress card.
workingforpigs on February 24, 2009 at 8:39 AM
JiangxiDad on February 24, 2009 at 8:59 AM
The MSM has Prompterbama’s approval ratings at 67%????? WTF! Who the hell are these idiots polling? 40% tax rate for “millionaires” I’m not surprised the MSM is not saying anything about “Small Business” and the hit they will take.
Now 1 Billion to Hamas/PA Gaza whoever. I trust the UN will give it out wisely. You think the UN will take some of this money for themselves? The UN needs more money to have sex with children and make sure the rockets continue to fly into Israel.
You think we’re going to get an accounting for the 900 million that Congress will give them?
Atlanta Media Guy on February 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM
We have a fool in the WH. I never thought I’d say this about a President and never have before, but this time it fits.
jeanie on February 24, 2009 at 9:04 AM
Sadly, if you take the actual number of Gazan residents and divid it evenly by $900 million, they would each get more moeny than they would make in 10 years. Or you would confiscate the money stolen from them by Yassar Arafat from his luxury loving wife in Paris, and build schools.
Unlike Iraq, these are people who choose to remain stuck in victimhood because it is all they have. They don’t want jobs, or education, or a future. That would be a surrender of their goal to take back Isreal from the Jews. If they showed any progress, any future, any hope, then they would no longer be given the mantle of victim.
So Obama is now deciding to support that goal. Swell.
Ohio Granny on February 24, 2009 at 9:07 AM
I wonder if this $900 million includes the $20.3 million in this “Presidential Determination” from Obama for “Unexpected Urgent Refugee and Migration Needs Related To Gaza”.
No doubt we can be certain that no members of Hamas will receive these funds.
Buy Danish on February 24, 2009 at 9:07 AM
If I had some dude launching rockets from the roof of my office in the US I would expect the government to blow it up AND I don’t think I would expect the government to rebuild it because I was stupid enough to let someone to do something stupid.
They have all gotten what they deserve and should live in the rubble their actions or inaction has created.
workingforpigs on February 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM
“We have a fool in the WH. I never thought I’d say this about a President and never have before, but this time it fits.”
This country is slowly losing its mind with each passing day…..This is madness.
EagleClaw on February 24, 2009 at 9:15 AM
obama works for the enemy.
When will Americans wake up?
ErinF on February 24, 2009 at 9:15 AM
When will Americans wake up?
How knows? They are to busy sleeping off the “Hope and Change” flavored kool aid hangover.
EagleClaw on February 24, 2009 at 9:18 AM
We saw dancing in the streets of Gaza in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and it will be gratifying to see the same outpouring of goodwill when the money starts parachuting in.
moxie_neanderthal on February 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM
What are you saying? That the Palestinian people, who voted the Hamas terror group into power, should actually have to live with the consequences of their own choices?
How un-American are you? Don’t you understand that we, the hapless American taxpayers, are responsible for shielding all the world’s people from the consequences of their foolish and irresponsible actions? If we don’t do this, then they might (gasp) start making better choices . . . . and we don’t want that, do we? /
AZCoyote on February 24, 2009 at 9:22 AM
Nine hundred million. Let’s see; a six hundred million set-aside for rocket research, an ear-mark for suicide vest improvements for two hundred million, and a two hundred million set-aside for kindergarden hate training. We will still owe them one hundred million and I will gaurantee that there is no pork in this bill.
Johan Klaus on February 24, 2009 at 9:27 AM
At least you chappies have a vote on it, the EU and our provincial governments just dishes out the money without any palimentary oversight, so that the Palesintians have all of their own money to spend on shiny automatic weapons etc., if of course certain people decide to give them military quipment for free? I feel sick everytime our governments pay these vast amounts out to these people.
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM
My condolences.
Johan Klaus on February 24, 2009 at 9:41 AM
every other word out of this guy’s mouth costs us a trillion dollars!! Why should we rebuild Gaza, and running the money through the UN aaaarrrggghhh
I’m starting to have a harder and harder time getting up in the morning. What is the point of going to work knowing they are just going to take the fruits of my labor from me anyway, soon. . . .
Willie on February 24, 2009 at 9:42 AM
Trick question: what is the difference between the UN and Hamas?
Vashta.Nerada on February 24, 2009 at 9:48 AM
Great. A terrorist bailout.
What next – serial killer bailouts? A stimulus package for rapists and pedophiles?
Mr Purple on February 24, 2009 at 9:49 AM
maybe now we can all get along /*rolling eyes*
gatorboy on February 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM
W.T.F.
We are drowning here, and those idiots want to bailout the world!
Rae on February 24, 2009 at 9:52 AM
How appropriate is this? Just before the filthy liar speaks tonight, PBS is broadcasting “Rat Attack” on NOVA.
The desription from that show, with a little editing could also be used to describe the filthy liar’s speech…
Every 48 years, the inhabitants of
the remote Indian state of MizoramAmerica suffer a horrendous ordeal known locally asmautamsocialism. The DEMOC rats run amok, destroying crops and precipitating a crippling faminethroughout Mizoramthrough their arrogance and hubris. NOVA follows this gripping tale ofnature’sliberals, Democrats, and other traitor’s capacity to engender human suffering.highhopes on February 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Wow, good thing Obambi wants to be fiscally responsible now.
ctmom on February 24, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Get in line Rae and wait your turn! The Messiah wont forget you so dont worry…Oh wait a minute, you pay your mortgage on time? never mind then.
EagleClaw on February 24, 2009 at 10:00 AM
Uh, nothing?
Johan Klaus on February 24, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Obama himself admits he was an Indonesian citizen. His adoption and school records from the time he lived in Jakarta (as Barry Soetoro) have been PUBLISHED and they SHOW that he was listed as INDONESIAN! These facts being established, why does everyone not understand that Obama is therefore NOT eligible to be POTUS under the U.S. Constitution? How long will take the American public to have the courts remove Obama from office, before he destroys this nation?
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Dear Mr Obama –
Sitting in vaults in Indonesia there are official records of your previous status as an Indonesian citizen. You refuse to make these records public because, if revealed, they make you ineligible to be President of the United States. Yet, at any time, someone in Indonesia (the largest Muslim nation in the world) can take those records and show them to the world. Are you not subject to blackmail from Muslim enemies of the U.S. every day of your term in office?
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Rather than send money, why not send 2 million workers to clean it all up. Since we have illegals in our country looking for work, batch them up and drop them off in Gaza, after they have served two years in clean up efforts make them citizens as time served for their country.
workingforpigs on February 24, 2009 at 10:13 AM
We provide humanitarian aid to Gaza and Hamas steals it and sells it to the citizens and uses the money for more rockets. What makes anyone think that Hamas is going to let 900 million get used for what it’s intended without getting their grubby little hands on it somehow? How many times do we have to get kicked in the head over there before we say enough? Are there any preconditions on getting these funds, say, or is it going to get used to build more tunnels? What a joke.
scalleywag on February 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
I am disgusted beyond words that $900 million of U.S. taxpayer money is being sent to build back what Hamas terrorists caused to be destroyed….
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Join the resistance – refuse to recognize the usurper Obama as President —
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89837
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:20 AM
What do you mean “at any time”? Wasn’t Putin head of the KGB? Whatever exists on Barry, if anything, is being used.
JiangxiDad on February 24, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Bambi was a citizen of Indonesia. He is probably already being blackmailed by Muslims who could make public his immigration and passport records –.expect to see more millions and billions of U.S. taxpayer money sent to terrorist Muslim nations ….
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:22 AM
900 Million…that’s a lot of rockets and suicide vests.
gwelf on February 24, 2009 at 10:24 AM
This is a brilliant idea – how about we give Iran 100 billion to upgrade their infrastructure – that way they won’t have to pursue nuclear energy as a means of providing electricity to their people /sarc
gwelf on February 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM
We do, and we own a small business and are to be punished for it. The trillions in debt 0gabe presided over (I mean “inherited”) is our responsibility to pay, or so I’m told.
No jobs for you! /Soup Nazi
Rae on February 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM
How many of you agree with me that Bambi’s goal is to destroy the U.S.economy, forcing us to accept a new global government?
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
What an idiot.
it’s really unbelievable
notagool on February 24, 2009 at 10:30 AM
It’s not too late – the American people must remove Bambi from office on the citizenship issue – force him to disclose his former Indonesian citizenship —
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM
It is the end of America if we do not remove Bambi from office in the next six months – by legal means
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I don’t think Obama is that nefarious. I think he’s a mixture of incompetence, liberal ideologies (tax the rich, state provided everything to take care of the people) and a heavy dose of Chicago-style corruption.
gwelf on February 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Who IS Obama anyway ??? All his personal records have been sealed from public access — why ?
Indonesian Passport – Not released
Application for U.S. Citizenship (as former citizen of Indonesia) – Not released
Immigration Records – Not released
Original Vault Copy Birth Certificate – Not released
Certificate of Live Birth – Counterfeit Version on Obama Web Site
Obama / Dunham Marriage License – Not released
Soetoro / Dunham Marriage License – Not released
Soetoro Adoption Records – Not Released
Fransiskus Assisi School Application – Not released
Punahou School Records – Not released
Selective Service Registration – Counterfeit version generated
Occidental College records – Not released
Columbia College Records – Not released
Columbia Thesis – Not released
Harvard College Records – Not released
Baptism Certificate – None
Medical Records – Not released
Illinois State Senate Records – Not released
Law Practice Client List – Not released
University of Chicago Scholarly Articles – None
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM
$900 million to Gaza (*cough*Hamas*cough*) and no money to keep Manas Air Base open? Let’s see…
One of these is a vital logistical hub in the war on terror…
One of these is… umm… not…
Which should we spend money on?!!
flashoverride on February 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Not sure what all this conspiracy stuff has to do with the topic at hand.
scalleywag on February 24, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Bingo!
scalleywag on February 24, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Scalleywag — Muslims are pulling Obama’s string — $900 million to Gaza is just the beginning …. why? — because Indonesia (the world’s largest Muslim nation) has the goods to blackmail Obama — he was a former citizen of Indonesia and used an Indonesia passport as an adult. Think the U.S. public would be interested to see those documents, if Indonesia decided to show them?
searcher484 on February 24, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Go ahead Dems..give them the $9mil, it will be the biggest political mistake by a major party ever. Dems better hope netanyahooooo doesnt get in, he’ll quickly make mortar dust out of that $9mil…..jackasses.
malkinmania on February 24, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Amazing, ain’t it? The power of race in our public dialogue is overwhelming. Ricky Holder is right – the liberals are a nation of cowards!
Jaibones on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Um, malkinmania, that’s 900,000,000 – not 9,000,000.
Shy Guy on February 24, 2009 at 11:18 AM
How much do you want to bet that some of this money does go to Hamas and they use some of it for weapons? When are we going to allow Israel to win? This will never end until Israel is destroyed or until the enemy is utterly and completely defeated! I prefer the Israelis over the barbaric muslims any day! Sure, not all muslims are bad, however, Islam is!
CrusaderPatriot on February 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM
900 Million?
Whew, at first I thought it said 900 Billion! Chump change for our boy Barack.
Oh, and by the way, Chris Matthews? If it is indeed your job to help Barack succeed, I suggest you had better be tuning up the old resume!
drunyan8315 on February 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM
oops my bad..$900 mil…
so lets see…not one penny to the so called Katrina victims and not one penny for the Israeli missile victims. Muslim helping Muslims.
Another gem was Sen Landrieu all of a sudden saying we dont need money. WTF???? A month before the election, reporters were showing the ‘continued devastation’.
malkinmania on February 24, 2009 at 11:28 AM
When does Gaza get a voting member of Congress?
Ted Torgerson on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I don’t believe any President ever tried to actively destroy the US. I imagine he is doing what he thinks is best. My guess is that he spent to long in a bubble (Universities, Chicago, Senate) that he believes that if he only helps the Palestinians and helps them rebuild than they will magically like us and stop trying to kill us. In related news scientists are amazed that monkeys are flying out of Mike Myers butt.
txaggie on February 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Ted Torgerson on February 24, 2009 at 11:29 AM
They already have one: Keith Ellison from MN.
He took Cynthia McKinney’s spot as their rep.
PimFortuynsGhost on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Yesterday.
Shy Guy on February 24, 2009 at 11:32 AM
I am willing to bet that all of it is going to hamas
runner on February 24, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Even with the filthy liar’s standard admonition that he’s going to be watching and will call them on it if they aren’t spending the money correctly?
highhopes on February 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM
I DO think that the filthy liar wants to destroy America as it exists. It is the only way the rat bastard traitors of his ilk can get their agenda implemented.
highhopes on February 24, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Democrats complained about Bush’s “Nation Building” for years.
Iraq too BIG a nation ?
we need to think smaller ?
JayTee on February 24, 2009 at 11:45 AM
OT
Congrats AlMerica, you have joined an exclusive club!
BL@KBIRD on February 24, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I am concerned about the QUAGMIRE Obama is getting us into in Afghanistan, and the random bombings of innocent men, women,children, and so-called terrorists there, and in Pakistan. Who will speak for them???
STOP THE BOMBING NOW. STOP THE WAR. MAKE OBAMA STOP KILLING THE BROWN PEOPLE.
JiangxiDad on February 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Sorry, I don’t. I hope they’re eyes are wide open as they ask themselves… ‘holy sh!t, what have we done? And how can we fix it?’
4shoes on February 24, 2009 at 11:55 AM
So let me get this straight. You’re going to use my tax dollars to give nearly a billion dollars to a culture that churns out genocidal killers with the approval of their government and populace?
Awesome.
TheUnrepentantGeek on February 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Like I said before, watch and see, U.S. policy shift away from Israel so as to fulfill Bible prophecy. How do I know? Simple. The Bible predicts one day, Israel will have no allies, and all nations shall be gathered against her. Read the ‘all-nation’ invasion of Israel in Zech 14. Christ is on His way back and there’s nothing you can do about it except get ready to face your Maker.
apacalyps on February 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM
The majority of American voters chose Obama. The Jews particularly aren’t responsible for him, but are largely collectively responsible along with the other libs.
That being said, from personal experience, I can tell you that Obama voters sleep very well at night, haven’t the slightest clue about the precipice we’re standing at, and won’t find out until they fall over it. My advice is not to count for or wait for anyone else to “wake-up.”
JiangxiDad on February 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM
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