Geert Wilders to Glenn Beck: Europe needs a First Amendment
posted at 6:34 pm on February 23, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Five minutes from today’s interview, most of which unfortunately was devoted to rehashing his showdown with the Brits for the benefit of Fox viewers who hadn’t heard about it. Things get interesting near the end, though, when he floats the idea of a pan-European right to free expression. One problem with that: The European Convention on Human Rights already grants that right, albeit with caveats galore. In practice it’s simply subordinated to competing interests like, ahem, “community harmony.” Another problem is that the cultural tides are against him. Take five minutes and read Christopher Caldwell’s critique of Wilders in the Weekly Standard for more on that. Caldwell, to his credit, is willing to call Wilders on his own notable hypocrisy in this area but keeps his eye on the big picture:
Yes, there is increasingly a special regime for speech concerning Islam, or at least concerning religion. After the murder of van Gogh in 2004, the Dutch justice minister, Piet-Hein Donner, urged that blasphemy laws that had fallen into desuetude be revived to protect Muslims. He failed, but so did efforts to eliminate those laws, and Donner’s successor, Ernst Hirsch Ballin, has sought to strengthen them in recent weeks. Dutch elite opinion now leans towards the idea that one should try not to give the Muslim populations any cause for anger. In Britain, Muslims sought in 2006 a “law against incitement to religious hatred.” Before it passed, the House of Lords altered it to ensure that it would not chill critical discussion of any religion. Apparently they failed.
Yes, the British government has grown less interested in freedom. After the July 2005 transport bombings, and even more after the foiled airplane plot of the following summer, the government said so explicitly. “Traditional civil liberty arguments,” said Tony Blair, “are not so much wrong as just made for another age.” Since then, 270 people have been refused admission to Britain on grounds of sowing hate. Only four of these have been Europeans. This kind of disparate impact must leave Jacqui Smith feeling she has little to apologize for in banning Wilders.
The new European conception of freedom of speech, based on anti-racism, protects a lot less speech than did the old British and Dutch conceptions of freedom of speech, based on sovereignty. Maybe membership in the family of man relieves one of a certain amount of worry about the liberties of one’s fellow citizens.
Next stop for Wilders is Capitol Hill, to screen “Fitna” for the U.S. Senate at the invitation of Jon Kyl. Kudos to both of them. Exit question: Should we read anything into the fact that there was no snippet of “Fitna” shown here? Beck certainly has the stones to do it, but the Foxies conspicuously refused to show the Mohammed cartoons when that story was raging. Hmmm.
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I love the hair
ousoonerfan15 on February 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM
And a 2nd Amendment. They can have ours. We won’t have it much longer anyway.
ex-Democrat on February 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Beck owned his own show on CNN, I would guess he still owns it. So if he did not show it then he and his producers decided not to show it. I would not read anything into it because like you said if anyone does it’s Beck.
Theworldisnotenough on February 23, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Not to worry, Geert, the 1st Amendment is going out of style here anyway; apparently we are not allowed to mention the word “chimp” or “monkey” if there is a black person within a five mile radius.
Bishop on February 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Fox showed Muslims Against Jihad, which was banned by PBS after some Muslims were offended and said it “demonized Islam”. I wouldn’t read too much into that.
amerpundit on February 23, 2009 at 6:44 PM
They can make their own. No one takes mine unless they take it out of my cold dead hands.
dentalque on February 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM
I love the fact that muslims / liberals
cry bloody murder when they want to burn everyone elses flags or books or stop them from being able to talk ..
but if any Non muslims or infidel dared to do the same things they are why there would be fires buring in the streets..
Soon folks very soon their is comming a time where our own streets will be set ablaze by these morons..
because they simply cannot stand anyone except themselfs having the right to free speech
So i sat to mr wilders keep on going strong..
I support you
jcila on February 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Hmmm… the U.S. broke from Britian due to the Taxes, and laws that were assinine to follow and paying thru the nose.
Almost 250 years later, here is Britian’s whining about rules and law again, Americans whom broke away are whining we are losing our rights….
Is it time for another mass exodus. Antarctica here I Come!
upinak on February 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM
It is my understanding that Wilders did not call for the banning of the Koran,
rather, he claimed that if “hate speech” was to be banned in the EU then the Koran should be banned. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I don’t support any bans on “free speech” – except of course the customary “after the fact” punishments such as for yelling “fire” in a crowded theatre.
But, if we’re going to stand by and allow the Muslims to restrict our “free speech” while their “religious speech” calls daily for our DESTRUCTION then we’re not only being politically correct – we’re being SUICIDAL!
Though it meets with a LOT of criticism my proposal at http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2007/02/proposed-constitutional-amendment.html to ban Islam is NO MORE OFFENSIVE to the First Amendment than is the Koran. And until such time as there is REAL Muslim effort to refor their 7th century barbaric excuse for the rape of little girls, and the violent conquest of other peoples (ie., normal EVERYDAY Islam) I’ll continue to advocate it. And I’ll support Wilders call for banning the Koran.
Here’s a part of my proposal for any too lazy to read the whole thing -
Article III
Immediately upon passage of this Amendment all Mosques, schools and Muslim places of worship and religious training are to be closed, converted to other uses, or destroyed. Proceeds from sales of such properties may be distributed to congregations of said places but full disclosure of all proceeds shall be made to an appropriate agency as determined by Congress. No compensation is to be offered by Federal or State agencies for losses on such properties however Federal funding is to be available for the demolishing of said structures if other disposition cannot be made.
The preaching of Islam in Mosques, Schools, and other venues is prohibited. The subject of Islam may be taught in a post high school academic environment provided that instruction include discussion of Islam’s history of violence, conquest, and its ongoing war on democratic and other non-Islamic values.
The preaching or advocating of Islamic ideals of world domination, destruction of America and democratic institutions, jihad against Judaism, Christianity and other religions, and advocating the implementation of Sharia law shall in all cases be punishable by fines, imprisonment, deportation, and death as prescribed by Congress. Violent expressions of these and other Muslim goals, or the material support of those both in the United States and around the world who seek to advance these Islamic goals shall be punishable by death.
Muslims will be denied the opportunity to immigrate to the United States.
robscottw on February 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Europe does need a First Amendment. However, it will never have one. Europe hasn’t had free speech in a long time, not only in Holland.
Entelechy on February 23, 2009 at 6:48 PM
GEERT THR GREAT.
reliapundit on February 23, 2009 at 6:49 PM
So it’s rather like Henry Ford’s, “You can have any color as long as it’s black”.
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM
HA should have a thread on the following
Last Sunday, on C-Span, Michael Wolff, a liberal reporter, who wrote the book about Rupert Murdoch “The Man Who Owns The News“, said that Rupert is embarrassed to own Fox, and bows to its CEO and the money he makes from it. Also, that Rupert is for Obama and that we are now in different times and Fox is no longer what it was under Bush, bla, bla, bla.
If this is so, conservatives should quit supporting him. At least Soros overtly states what a socialist he is.
Entelechy on February 23, 2009 at 6:55 PM
You’re not wrong, but unless you speak Dutch and keep up with Wilders’ dynamo schedule, there’s no way to know everything he’s said.
His basic position, though, is as you characterized it–which means you do a better job than nearly all the media
( don’t let your head swell: it’s Faint Praise )
Entelechy, hallo……….
Janos Hunyadi on February 23, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I think I read somewhere that Saudi Arabia owns 6% of Fox News if I’m not mistaken. Correct me if I’m wrong. That might be a reason they are not running clips of the movie.
jencab on February 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Damn! I missed GB today.
OmahaConservative on February 23, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Janos, jó estét.
What’s with this messianic picture?
Entelechy on February 23, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Canada doesn’t have free speech laws either….at least none the government hasn’t been able to ignore completely anyway.
GardenGnome on February 23, 2009 at 7:01 PM
the whole world needs to adopt the Bill of Rights…
Kaptain Amerika on February 23, 2009 at 7:02 PM
I caught about 4 minutes of his show today, and he cut up a giant cookie cake to illustrate how a mortgage gets divided up among many different banks and investment groups.
I liked Beck before he moved to Fox, but his show is closing in on RedEye as my favorite on the network.
BadgerHawk on February 23, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Allah keeps calling Geert Wilders a “hypocrite”
He is not.
Geert is simply asking why, if Mein Kampf is banned throughout Europe, the Koran isn’t also banned, since it advises readers to kill Jews.
See Andrew Bostom:
http://is.gd/kBDJ
fivefeetoffury on February 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM
When I, a thoughtful and unblessed Presbyterian, examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane, not in all things, but in religious matters. I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic—for that is a part of his insanity and the evidence of it.
- Mark Twain
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Three men were waiting at a bus stop: a Cowboy, an Indian and a Muslim.
The Muslim said to the Indian, “How come there are so many more Muslims now than hundreds of years ago, and yet there are so many fewer Indians than hundreds of years ago?”
The Cowboy tilted up his hat, adjusted his tooth pick and said, “That’s cause we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet.”
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Geert! What a breath of fresh air. My spouse is Dutch and has lived in the states for 15 years. Every time we go visit, someone will bring up the plight of the “poor Palestinians”. Yes the ones strapping bombs onto themselves and their poor children. It’s getting bad here, but you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:11 PM
MB4 at 7:08PM HAHAHAHAHA! ( I’m not going to abbreviate it because it deserves the full effect!) Great joke!! I am going to send it to as many friends as I think can stomach it.
Driefromseattle on February 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM
MB4: We need more cowboys.
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:14 PM
It seemed like Beck was pressed for time, and maybe Wilders was too.
His idea for a European 1st is fantastic, but without a 2nd, it’s indefensible.
MadisonConservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:17 PM
“notable hypocrisy”? That is a pathetic attempt at … I don’t even know what you are attempting. But it’s pathetic.
There are bans in Europe, currently. Within that context – which is the context for that link you provided (and the link provided there for this “notable hypocrisy” of Wilders’) the koran should be banned, above all else. That’s how life is there, today. For example, you would probably find yourself banned, today, for your screenname. That is how things are.
Now, if you want to ask Wilders how he feels about the koran if the other bans were lifted, then that is a different story.
But don’t let me stop you from screaming “hypocrite” at one of the only sane people in Europe. After all, it would take all of 1/10000th of a second to find real, true, deep, dangerous hypocrisy, and, even worse, consistently destructive policies among any of the others, there, but it wouldn’t be much fun to point that out.
progressoverpeace on February 23, 2009 at 7:24 PM
Ha ha ha ha… a second amendment in Europe! When hell freezes. We are considered barbarians over there. Buy em now and bury em. (learn to shoot em first)
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM
In Holland Mein Kampf is banned. Wilders said that if consistency were followed the Koran would also be banned.
Those who fear Wilders like to spread the lie that he is demanding the banning of the Koran on one hand and demanding free speech on the other. Making him look like a rabid right wing hypocrite to be ignored.
AllahP, I’m surprised you would take Charles Johnsons confabulations on some one he views as a Nazi. Charles was worried about HA the other night, he said it had gone down. People were talking about birth certs, non Darwinian approaches and bad mouthin Muslims. He will issue a fatwa on HA soon enough. And all his little lizards line up and sing sweetly against the latest banned vegetable, mineral or animal that runs foul of Charles. Quite strange to witness. His universe as they say.
BL@KBIRD on February 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Glenn Beck, although right on so much, does not quite “get it” about Islam. He still thinks its a peaceful religion hijacked by radicals.
Disturb the Universe on February 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Charles Johnson certainly seems to combines the worst traits of Joe McCarthy, Anthony Fremont and a consummate dhimmi.
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:37 PM
King Charles also seems to think that Robert Spencer and Diana West are Nazis. The man is a lunatic run amok.
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:39 PM
I must agree. Along with his growing reputation for banning numerous people who disagree with him, that site is rapidly degenerating into not even being worth a monthly look.
MadisonConservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:40 PM
He’s apparently morphed himself into a Christian saint, looking like a cathedral painting circa 1450.
blasphemy…..
Janos Hunyadi on February 23, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Just one big Charlie Juliet over there.
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Because Europe’s problem is that it needs more judges telling people how to live.
JohnJ on February 23, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Dear Charles,
They’re coming to take you away, ha-haaa.
They’re coming to take you away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa.
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time and you’ll be happy
to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they’re coming
to take you away, ha-haaa!!!
To the happy home, with trees and flowers and chirping birds and basket
weavers who sit and smile and twiddle their thumbs and toes and they’re
coming to take you away, ha-haa!!!
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time……
- Napoleon XIV
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Fox published a documentary on Honor killings in the US also. Meghan Kelly hosted it. They have more shows against Muslims then the MSM.
They also reported on the beheading of the wife of that crazy. So Im not thinking they are afraid to publish anything anti-islam
becki51758 on February 23, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Glenn Beck makes me cringe; especially when he blathers in front of a foreigner.
RobCon on February 23, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Wilders has some serious stones! He is bucking the establishment over there. I am always floored when I hear about people being prosecuted for speech of any kind. “Sticks and stones.” Enlightened Europe should be ashamed of itself. (sarc on the whole enlightened thing)
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Here is a cleaner view of Wilders Koran bashing.
BL@KBIRD on February 23, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Guys, I’m getting really tired of the Charles-bashing. I don’t mind you criticizing my friends (or me), but the constant refrains of how much he’s changed, how supposedly intolerant he is, etc etc, are getting tedious. And off-topic: This is a thread about Wilders, not LGF. Please focus.
I still read LGF regularly, for what it’s worth.
Allahpundit on February 23, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Ha, a First Amendment is too liberal (in the classical sense) to be acceptable among the increasingly fascist Euro-weenies.
petefrt on February 23, 2009 at 8:29 PM
AP, two snippets of Fitna were just shown on O’Reilly…guess your exit Q is moot
Erich66 on February 23, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Okey dokey. Wilders is GGGGRRREEEEEEAT!!! That other fellow, well, not so much.
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 8:49 PM
He’s got awesome hair.
Jim Treacher on February 23, 2009 at 8:49 PM
And don’t forget that E.D. Hill hosted “Obsession”, which was shown several times. I really miss E.D. Hill.
progressoverpeace on February 23, 2009 at 8:52 PM
The Eagle Has Landed
MB4 on February 23, 2009 at 8:55 PM
The Constitution of the Netherlands was rewritten in 1983, making “prohibition of discrimination” (Article 1) a Constitutional protection for Dutch citizens.
The Dutch should revert to the old Constitution as written in 1848. At least that is what I would propose if I were Wilders – as well as full secession from the European Union – along with his current policy proposals.
aengus on February 23, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Wilders is a dangerous right wing extremist and hypocrite.
Islam is a religion of peace.
Obama knows what he’s doing.
Ebola makes life fun.
profitsbeard on February 23, 2009 at 9:11 PM
BL@KBIRD on February 23, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Thank you for pointing this out. I, too, have noticed the very same things but will not elaborate in deference to Allah’s wishes that we play nice – even with those who do not play nice with us. :)
KickandSwimMom on February 23, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Free speech is more valuable than the feelings of the offended.
“Orthodoxy is unconsciousness.” – George Orwell.
profitsbeard on February 23, 2009 at 9:39 PM
Free speech isn’t free anymore if people are being prosecuted not for what they do, but for what they think and the opinions they express. We are already there.
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Europe doesn’t need a first amendment, they just absolutely need some balls and some moral standards. The problem goes far deeper than free speech.
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Europes problem is they replaced their Judeo Christian culture and worldview with a Humanistic worldview over the last century or so.
Same thing we are doing now, gradually getting more and more retarded.
jp on February 23, 2009 at 10:33 PM
It breaks my heart. I have children that may never understand what it is to be free.
Gulfcoastconservative on February 23, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Amen.
Christian Conservative on February 23, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Well, the commenters at Ace’s have had some decidedly uncomplimentary things to say about AP. But I just think of these places as neighborhood bars; you’re more comfortable at some than at others. AP, give me some material that I can defend you against those morons! A picture of your bum would be nice.
Fortunata on February 23, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Wilders is a wanker. Britain has every right to tell this creep to sod off. They also told a number of radical Americans to sod off… good thing too. They just have to take care of the creeps that got in under the asylum laws and it will be a much better place… constitution or not.
lexhamfox on February 24, 2009 at 2:11 AM
Allahpundit, again you get your facts wrong, Wilders suggested that as Mein Kampf was banned due to hate speach laws, then the Quran should be too. Hyprocite not at all, you certainly do not know what you are talking about in terms of Wilders. Its obvious that you read LGF sadly and if you take the same incorrect line as Chartlie boy then we will tar you with the same brush.
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 6:40 AM
Now if the Brits would only tell radical Muslims to “sod off” you guys would be in business. But we all know that Great Britain is finished, done.
Geert Wilders was on O’Reilly last night and a clip of Fitna was played.
CarolynM on February 24, 2009 at 6:57 AM
One point is missing from all this (at least that I can see). Islam is a politcal ideology posing as a religion to prevent anyone from questioning what it says. First, remove the “religious” aspect from the teachings and then tell me what you see.
thetriguy on February 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM
lexhamfox on February 24, 2009 at 2:11 AM
You just keep being a good little dhimmi. Enjoy the Sharia.
Disturb the Universe on February 24, 2009 at 7:55 AM
Glenn has the most interesting guests. This guy values free speech…gee I hope the libs do not try and deport him!
charmingtail on February 24, 2009 at 8:25 AM
CarolynM, us Brits just like doing it the hard way, take our finest hour, the defeat of Nazi Germany that bankrupted us as a nation and meant that our Empire was dissolved soon afterwards.
While a number of people were warning about the rise of Nazi Germany, we decided to give ourselves a real challenge by waking up to the fact so late in the day that after our first major defeat, the fall of France, our troops ended up defending Britain with pitchforks due to the los of equipment in France. If our air force had not done the business following Hitlers helpful intervention in changing targets, we would have been doing the manly thing of taking on tanks with our bare hands.
We are just trying to better what our previous generation did, now we want to give ourselves a bit of civil war to toughen us up with a population that hates our values, perhaps they will wait in making their challenge until they outnumber us, in which case it will be a challenge worthy of us…, we like doing things the hard way, its the stiff upper lip and all that…
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 8:31 AM
We have also decided to vote in a government of extreme incompetence who in 12 short years changed the best financial sitiation in 100 years to the worst, we have also allowed our government to tear up our constitution in favour of one where unelected lawmakers do what they want, then we will show that stiff upper lip and all that, after all Churchill said that to fight when there is no chance of victory is the most bravest thing to do, we want to live that dream my friends, we want to better the 39 generation…
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 8:45 AM
Allahpundit cannot be this daft. He is intentionally misrepresenting Wilders view. Wilders calls for consistency in hate speech laws, specifically in that Mein Kampf is banned in the Netherlands.
I find Allahpundit’s criticism of those, many who were already outcast from LGF as fascists, those who dare criticize Charles Johnson, absurd. Either you believe that Charles Johnson is the only non-fascist, non-race supremacitst anti-Jihadist or you believe that everyone else is with the exception of Johnson.
Regarding Beck, him including Wilders in a show of solidarity for free speech is admirable, but he still refuses to see the obvious, and ignored Wilder’s claim that Islam is a fascist, totalitarian ideology, with the typical PC excuse that “he knows alot of Muslims who are good people”, nonsense.
Under Britain’s current affliction with PC, Winston Churchill would have been deported as a purveyor of hate for his words about Islam:
Winston Churchill On Islam
A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, “The River War”, in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener’s campaign in the Sudan
——————————————————————————–
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.”
“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
awake on February 24, 2009 at 8:46 AM
I’m no Dhimmi just because I don’t think Wilders should have a platform in the UK to promote his junk and I am also glad that they are deporting a number Islamic morons as well as keeping Wilders out. I served in the Middle East and don’t really care what you think of the UK or me for that matter since you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Britain does not have to open its doors to every crackpot out there be it Wilders or Ur Rehman.
lexhamfox on February 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM
lexhamfox, well Britain has openned its doors to killers, rapists, robbers and gangsters, while keeping out a person who want to maintain freedom of expression and the equal application of the law and was going to a debate on this film not running around the streets whipping up violence and hate in a major demo. Seeing as you can’t work out that your just part of the problem. I think your an idiot actually, who has no idea just how precarious our freedoms are.
As for your service, I normally do not belittle such things but I guess your one of those that say you know because you were there, well hunkering down in a poorly defended base while being mortared without replying is not being there and knowing what is going on is it?
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Willie on February 24, 2009 at 10:17 AM
If this is where Europe is headed, watch out United States for the same arguement will be made for gun laws.
Islam isn’t a religion, it’s an abomination against the spirit of mankind, a manifesto followed by those who have no freedom to lose and who obviously put little value on human life.
Ernest on February 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Earnest, so very true.
TrueBrit on February 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Islam is a true gutter religion. A central force that needs to be defeated with the utmost spirit and cruelty.
FlyoverJ-HawkFan on February 24, 2009 at 12:28 PM
You are such a raging liberal, Allahpundit.
2Brave2Bscared on February 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Yep. It’s unfortunate too, because we could really use his voice in the fight against Islam.
Beck needs to stop thinking that he’s actually fighting “radical” Islam by befriending the likes of Zuhdi Jasser. I’m glad Jasser believes in peace, but to many if not most of his Muslim brothers (and certainly the “radicals” he hopes to reform) he’s nothing but an apostate. He has no voice within the Muslim community.
Reform is something the so-called moderate Muslims will have to work on for themselves, but for the West we must begin to look at Islam as the enemy if we hope to survive its attack on us.
2Brave2Bscared on February 24, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Joe McCarthey turned out to be right. If anything, Charles Johnson is a better McCartheyite than McCarthey was!
2Brave2Bscared on February 24, 2009 at 1:39 PM
So we’re not allowed to say the truth about liberals at this site then, huh?
2Brave2Bscared on February 24, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Dhimmi.
2Brave2Bscared on February 24, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I love Geert. He’s AWESOME & has the ball$ NO ONE in European govt has.
Islam is nothing but a fascist political ideology dressed up as a religion.
I don’t care if you’re a Muslim living in my country-but if you can’t assimilate to our W. culture & values-GTFO!
Badger40 on February 24, 2009 at 2:40 PM
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