Arnold to Sanford and Jindal: I vill take de stimulus money if you don’t want it
posted at 6:02 pm on February 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
Two videos, one from this morning and the other from 1990, tracking the evolution of a Republican icon. I’m no expert on Milton Friedman, but I imagine he’d find the “emergency” rationale for higher taxes rather highly nuanced indeed.
Exit question: When Schwarzenegger calls on the GOP to be “team players” by acquiescing in The One’s agenda, how long does he intend for “the game” to last? Until the emergency passes, whenever that is, or for Obama’s entire term?
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Actually, it was started by FDR.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM
You might be right man, with the way the GOP spent us into oblivion the last 8 years, which allowed the Democrats to win the high ground and now they can consolidate power in all areas, education, unions, regulations, election boards, etc. I cant deny you may be right.
True_King on February 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM
One stupid man on socialism, 43, with another, even bigger one, your narcissistic cipher in chief, a genius don’t make.
Here’s what he will say on Tuesday
“My fellow countrymen, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it. The great governor of Kalifornia already has”.
Entelechy on February 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Not for long if they keep raising taxes and driving business out.
izoneguy on February 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM
et tu, Arnold? Take take take is what partially got us into this mess.
scalleywag on February 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM
The dude could easily win the senate seat in Cali.
True_King on February 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM
Sure there is an end in sight. Just keep the herd GOP moving with the threat of lightning and pretty soon everyone will be dependent on us. Just make sure all these temporary jobs hit at the tail end of ’09 so we can spin the employment numbers……
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Watching Sanford today on FNC, I think he probably doesn’t have the charisma, but he sure has the brains. We need more like him who can articulate persuasively the conservative rationale.
petefrt on February 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Wasting your time. Getalife’s history goes back to Bush’s inauguration.
BuckeyeSam on February 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM
Take heed. With all the advantages California has (or had) it has become a shameful parody of what it once was. Stiffle the multicultural, leftest, utopia on earth crowd in your state or you will be close behind.
Truly a tragedy for those who remember what California once was.
Mason on February 22, 2009 at 7:15 PM
It’s just like my daily basketball with the Secret Service. We have no talent but me, but the other side doesn’t even know what defense is, so just keep attacking and fast breaking them and we’ll score a bunch……
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Why bother?
Either he’s been neutered, or he’s permanently impotent. Maybe it’s the steroid use.
BuckeyeSam on February 22, 2009 at 7:17 PM
arnold is an ACTOR..
Rember this..
I love his tough guy stuff (but I must remind myself)
AL the time that arnold is an ACTOR who worked in a make believe industry for 20 years..
This does not make him a LEADER
This does not make him or any celeb a toughned veteran
I am sorry but what happened is arnold ran into a brick wall called liberalism and he couldnt break through it.
So he chickened out and then goes running to the feds..
I would have shut down the entire state for 3 months…
Problem and budjet solved..
But again arnold is an actor.. but nothing else underneath..
Reagan at least had his biblical belief system..
This gave him the inner courage he needed..
So did bush..
But the holywood celebs are all
EMPTY SUITS..
jcila on February 22, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Reminds me of the story
of the passengers in the airliner
who smelled smoke -
and then the pilot and co-pilot
carrying parachutes
walked down the aisle
towards the back exit saying:
“Everyone remain calm -
we are going for help.”
MB4 on February 22, 2009 at 7:17 PM
You so funny.
canditaylor68 on February 22, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Take more heed. As goes CA goes the rest….. You will be saying that about the rest of the country before the end of this year. They just have more brazen liberals.
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM
What pilots……the cockpit is empty. Just a dummy holding the stick and humming “Somewhere over the rainbow.”
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM
petefrt on February 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
technopeasant on February 22, 2009 at 7:23 PM
No you THINK before you post,Peter Griffin. If that’s your real name…
Yes, I know have those search engine companies survive without ****bailouts**** it’s called collaborating with the ChiComs… China and Chicago…
65% of these “innovators” supported Obama. “Executives” from Yahoo, Google…etc were on Obama’s transition team.
Caper29 on February 22, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Wonderful post. Post of the Year contender, already.
El Cazador on February 22, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Fixed a few things for you.
Fixed this part too.
sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 7:30 PM
The Squirminator! This from a policy wank who couldn’t convince his Hollywood cronies in the writer’s union not to strike! How much did the strike cost California in unemployment payouts alone? Shut up you big dumb gelatinous galoot; and don’t tell me that the current socio-fascist intervention doesn’t remind you of Nazi Germany/Austria in the least!?
kregg on February 22, 2009 at 7:33 PM
That’s no strap-on…
john1schn on February 22, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Equal opportunity? Offshoring and H1/L1 abuse alone tear that to shreds. You are taking the opportunity away from a citizen and playing favorites with the Third World’s worst.
When those in business who were responsible for it deserve it, they are to be penalized. Full stop.
sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 7:34 PM
“Innovators”. They have “innovated” a giant debt Ponzi Scheme. Instead of conning people to give them more under false pretenses, they are conning people to take on mountains of debt, all to benefit them.
My Fellow Dumb*($#’s,
Tough times require sacrifices by all you who save, sacrifice, and manage your debt and pay your bills. Everyone else is a victim deserving of government assistance due to no fault of their own, other than irresponsibility. We must save the auto companies, we must save the banks, we must save the states, and save the mortgages. Do not fear, I will save you all too when we get through with that…..
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM
As far as I’m concerned those Republicans who bow down to the Messiah deserve all the contempt and scorn the millions of conservatives can muster against them. That includes you Arnold.
technopeasant on February 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM
MB4 on February 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Maybe by following conservative principals always Governor, you might have avoided an “emergency” altogether. I have personally practiced these principals and guess what? I’m not in foreclosure. However, now I must bailout your a**? Just great!
Paleoconservatarian on February 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM
One could make the argument for Wilson…
chicagojedi on February 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Union wages/benefits drive jobs offshore.
How about your boyfriend Barney Frank? Chris Dodd? Should they be penalized?
Patrick S on February 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM
So you were not a Reagan democrat?
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Of course he’ll take it . . . he’d take lunch money from school kids to help keep that welfare state afloat.
rplat on February 22, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Economics 101. Do not spend more than yout income.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM
The poster boy for why you should be an American born citizen to run for President.
bloggless on February 22, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Nice straw man argument try there, but it won’t fly here. Your premise tries to sell ‘opportunity’ as a negative because of some criminally bad choices.
People get wonderful opportunities in this country everyday. The fact that they choose to do evil with it is their choice. Others build a great country.
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:46 PM
California used to be the glittering jewel of the America’s. Just a wonderful state when I was a child, didn’t live there but used to go often to visit my family. The most beautiful real estate in the states. Green, fruitful, bountiful, very wealthy. Look at it now. Wow, it is beyond belief what has been allowed to happen over there.
Another thing that is evident is that Arnold represents the kind of candidates the GOP wants to run with.
True_King on February 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Well said . . . that counters many liberal slams on capitalism and the free market.
rplat on February 22, 2009 at 7:49 PM
LOL. ….by Liza Menelli at the inaguration…….
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:49 PM
I’m not the smartest guy of here but correct me if I’m wrong: wasn’t it the Democrats that basically got us in the fix were in by passing the Community Reinvestment Act in 1977 under Jimmy Carter? And wasn’t it the democrats who pushed and pushed banks to make subprime mortgage loans, by definition, to customers with less ability to pay back the loans? Banks were forced to abandon sound business practices in order to advance the cause of ‘social justice’ as advocated by the Democratic Party.
Sure some RINO’s supported these measures but as far as I’m concerned this was bad business, simple as that. And anyone who supports a President that wants to bail out subprime borrowers at the expense of those who are paying their mortgages is persona non grata, and now that includes Governator.
technopeasant on February 22, 2009 at 7:49 PM
Really?
That’s news to me.
BallisticBob on February 22, 2009 at 7:50 PM
That California is what it is is not Arnold’s fault.
It’s the San Andreas’ fault. An incessant luny left tectonic slip causing instability and a perpetually shaky environment.
Stand fast O chisled one, if you can, and watch for falling debris.
swede7 on February 22, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Can you say Missing the Point there Arny?
- The Cat
MirCat on February 22, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Arnold lost the mantle of Conservative years ago–back when he went along with the Kook Parade known as Gorebal Warming.
Acting shocked that he embraced Obama’s Socialism is a sign of not having paid attention, or of craving attention.
Montana on February 22, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I wonder what they have on Arnie?
TheBigOldDog on February 22, 2009 at 7:53 PM
You are wrong. They did not (just) push them, they also sued them.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Well now that Obama is going to raise taxes on business. We should see the stimulus take effect on April Fools Day no less. Now he is going to cap and trade us to death. How many jobs are we going to lose there. Mr. I’ll be back wants us to be team players. I don’t think so. I just hope the stock market doesn’t totally tank tomorrow.
Brat4life on February 22, 2009 at 7:55 PM
I guess Arnold forgot his own history let alone the history of the country. I love the line in the recent video: I am raising taxes because I am serving the people!
The complete transformation from conservative to liberal!
Christian Conservative on February 22, 2009 at 7:55 PM
RINO says what?
christene on February 22, 2009 at 7:56 PM
KEEP you filthy money out of our state, Bambi — we DONT want it !!!
searcher484 on February 22, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Oh, they got high with a little help from their congressional friends
Mm, they got high with a little help from their congressional friends
What do you see when you turn on the light
I can tell you that Dodd and Frank are a real fright
Oh, they got high with a little help from their congressional friends
They really let them sing out of tune
Yah, they got high with a little help from their congressional friends
MB4 on February 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Puff the Magic Negro lived by the sea — I am convinced that there are too many possible leaks for Obama to hire enough plumbers to keep things quiet for much longer. I think the first thing that will break is his use of an Indonesian passport which will prove his Indonesian citizenship as an adult. Next his college records will indicate that he was a foreign student receiving student aid as a foreigner. Then we will find out where he was born without seeing the birth certificate. And then finally the birth certificate will be released as part of his impeachment trial.
searcher484 on February 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM
If you take Obama’s filth money, wash your hands – it is a dirty handshake
searcher484 on February 22, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Nah, they don’t have anything on Arnie. Just admitting taking steroids all those years sooner or later goes to your brain and then of course somehow you have to keep the wife happy……
So much for calling the dems ‘girly men’…..
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I take the approach of Rush limbaugh and Mark Levin with regards to the Messiah. Like Patton, you attack, attack and attack. You do not allow yourself to be put of the defensive. If you are going to lose your liberty, your freedom, your ability to control your own destiny and not be rewarded for showing personal initiative and creativity as an entrepreneur then you might as well go down fighting with your rifle at your bedside preparing yourself for ACORN and Obama’s brownshirts.
technopeasant on February 22, 2009 at 8:00 PM
OT: Did anyone watch the four governors on Fox Sunday today? Though a Dem, I still get a kick out of Rendell. I find it funny to think of him in the same party with a bunch of San Francisco residents. Sanford was good; Pawlenty’s kind of a tool. The panelist I couldn’t get over was the Michigan governor. Her state is a wreck. To me, it was like inviting Jindal’s predecessor after her terrible performance in Katrina.
BuckeyeSam on February 22, 2009 at 8:01 PM
I’m so glad I left Ca., but I didn’t leave soon enough. I don’t want any of my tax money going to the place…one of the reasons I moved. The Govna just doesn’t get it, along with more than half of that poor state.
As for Obama’s speech tues. I have a feeling I know what’s coming. More of the same fear mongering.
In my head I see a body of a chicken with Obama’s head. And instead of walking/strutting around clucking, the new sounds will be heard as “it’s a crisis…it’s a crisis…it’s a crisis.” I have to find it funny. Otherwise I think I’d just cry.
roopster217 on February 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Granholm reminded of a pig at the trough, except my depiction of her debases pigs.
technopeasant on February 22, 2009 at 8:04 PM
I forgot to mention his head moving back and forth…that cracks me up.
roopster217 on February 22, 2009 at 8:04 PM
offtopic…is obama gonna meet with the soldier’s parents that died today in afghanistan? Just wondering.
malkinmania on February 22, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Socialists.
Speakup on February 22, 2009 at 8:14 PM
And I thought you knew nothing…oh wait….you do!
clinker46 on February 22, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Suck it up, conservative is out, libs are in, leave or start a Boston Tea Part which I will do in CT.
foxone on February 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Talk about your rich 5%. If Kali-for-nia ain’t got it, who does?
johnnyU on February 22, 2009 at 8:22 PM
Where did Seth go? Oh yeah, time for homework. Back to school tomorrow.
Ahnold has been married and in a Liberal family for too long. Plus, I guess he still wants to be considered “cool” among the Elites.
kingsjester on February 22, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Wrong. Wilson and House. An argument could be made it started with Teddy Bear, a read “progressive” politician, using his own terminology there.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 22, 2009 at 8:28 PM
What happened to him! What happened to him!
A KENNEDY happened to him!
my state is ruined! I will never go back unless it’s life threatening that I do. NEVER!
Mercy4Me on February 22, 2009 at 8:31 PM
You have Shelby and Keyes with tin foil hats of a birther conspiracy. Bachman unhinged.You have southern gop refusing the stimulus and all gop voting no on everything in a time of crises.
Your party is toast.
getalife on February 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM
A GOP voting against everything? I flippin’ wish! You must be a bit touched in the head. Bless you. I’m gld SOME of the southern GOP have some balls. As for the “conspiracy” stuff, I seem to remember more outrageous things coming from liberals. No, no, no, NOTHING and NOONE can hold a light to your friends there bucko.
roopster217 on February 22, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Economics 101. Do not spend more than your income.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 8:40 PM
What good would taking extra money do? Kalifornia will just waste it like they always do and be back in the same hole in no time…
Hog Wild on February 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM
getalife on February 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Your party’s President can’t even put together an honest Cabinet. The first thing he does when he assumes his throne is authorize American money to fund the killing of foreign babies. The second thing your President and his party does is foist a bill on this country that blows more money than a first year NFL Player. The problem is: it is OUR money! Our children’s children will still be funding this mess. People are starting to wake up. Your party is toast.
kingsjester on February 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Um, they pretty much just voted no on one bill so far, the stimulus.
myrenovations on February 22, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Maybe “started socialism” was the wrong word. I should have said started communism.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 8:43 PM
But the biggest nail in the gop coffin is voting against jobs but voting for socialism for Wall Street.
getalife on February 22, 2009 at 8:45 PM
#1 rule of holes. Stop digging.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Hey, you must have been in my dream last night. Man, it was great! Especially the part with the handcuffs.
Everyone get your mind out of the gutter….
mrsmwp on February 22, 2009 at 8:47 PM
“Is is one of the defects of the democratic form of government that a gift for oratory may enable a man to achieve power which his character does not fit him to exercise.” writes Somerset Maugham in Strictly Personal
Read this last night and thought of our Dear Leader, and now Arnold.
DrStock on February 22, 2009 at 8:48 PM
I may be wrong, but I think that dems just voted for the biggest communist grab ever, with more to come.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
So, just because CEO’s of some Silicon Valley companies have opposite political beliefs, it is good enough a reason to equate them to Hollywood? I don’t think you have a logical line of reasoning. FWIW, there are many Silicon Vally CEO’s (including John Chambers, CEO of Cisco) who are major Republicans and also contributors to GOP.
Also, someone compared the Bay area innovators to Ponzi schemes – they would probably have been saying the same about Warren Buffet at some point of time. How many of you guys use Google? A computer? Right …
peter_griffin on February 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
getalife is a D student. Go do your homework.
DrStock on February 22, 2009 at 8:49 PM
I really hate to just jump over 174 comments to say one thing, but I just had to, I’m time constrained.
Arnold, go fark yourself.
Tim Zank on February 22, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Don’t take all your butter out of the fridge just yet, you may want to save some to apply to your parties wounds later.
MB4 on February 22, 2009 at 8:51 PM
That’s the difference between a McCain “go along to get along” Republican and a real Republican.
Make no mistake, Schwarzenegger is dealing with huge problems. His issues are vastly different than those of Jindal or Sanford.
That being said, Ronald Reagan ran California with much the same dicotomy and many of the same pressing issues. The gipper never declared defeat the way Arnie did.
highhopes on February 22, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Unless you are in the market for a pit.
thomasaur on February 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Have you noticed the change in many of our supposedly moral leaders, friends and neighbors?
liberalism has literally turned our society upside down.
Just like Arnie, morals, honesty, remorse have all become secondary, I’ve recently met and read of far too many who are obviously are too proud to work or solve their own problems, but they’re not too proud to beg.
Speakup on February 22, 2009 at 8:53 PM
When it comes to return on investment, California is much like GM. There is no way to save either organization. Better to watch them fail and deal with the aftermath than propping them up when the result will be the same.
highhopes on February 22, 2009 at 8:54 PM
It bothers me that Governors like Granholm and Arnold say they will take the money if the other governors don’t want it. I thought the idea was you were only taking what you needed to help your state not taking as much as you can get like you are lined up at the trough and are just pushing another pig off the end. The view that you should take as much borrowed money as you can get if someone else doesn’t want to put it on the taxpayers tab you will is disgusting. I suppose they can’t say that but I wish someone would to these pork govs.
Conan on February 22, 2009 at 8:56 PM
If Arnold wasn’t disqualified for the office by the language of the Constitution, the idiot Whig Party would nominate him in 2012. Only Q is, who will they pick in his place? Crist? Hunstman?
james23 on February 22, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Starlink on February 22, 2009 at 8:59 PM
That was mostly dims who voted for socialism for Wall Street. You know, getaclue, I am growing tired of having to correct your homework.
MB4 on February 22, 2009 at 9:00 PM
We have a talk show host here in Sacramento, Eric Hogue, that, when we re-called Gray Davis, incessantly promoted Arnold as a fiscal conservative and told us not the worry about the rest. We actually had a least one true conservative running, but with the steady drumbeat of Eric Hogue and the rest of his ilk, we voted in Arnold. I love his movies, but I sure didn’t vote for him.
tballard on February 22, 2009 at 9:01 PM
MB4: I always enjoy reading your posts, but please stop using that awful blue print. It is difficult to read. If you are citing someone, use the quote tab and attribute the source. Thanks.
onlineanalyst on February 22, 2009 at 9:06 PM
I don’t think we’ll see it happen unless the Republicans take the house in 2012. Right now, Obie could serially rape 100 second grade boys and girls live on national TV and the house would either yawn or applaud. The Rezko land-deal-pay-for-play alone should put obie behind bars but, as we know, laws don’t apply to our political masters, just the little guys and Republicans
The problem with Ahnold is the problem republicans and conservatives have had to deal with over the last 50 years or so.. the promise of ‘free’ money. The other problem is that there are very few people like Reagan or Theodore Roosevelt who have a natural ability to control the political landscape.
bullseye on February 22, 2009 at 9:07 PM
I meant to say ‘take the house in 2010′
bullseye on February 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM
What about fields that are largely union-free such as programming/IT? Hardly any thought went into the forming of a union until the folks were offshored. Now they’re threatened with offshoring by those who abuse immigration law. There was no problem with the talent – IBM acknowledged that with Project Match. They just wanted them at slave labor conditions and wages, or have captive H1/L1′s.
No, I’m just someone who found out the answer to “what cost prosperity?”. I put 2 very similar situations together (2003′s offshoring of skilled labor and 1970′s-current evisceration of domestic manufacturing).
The only differences were social class (blue collar versus white collar) and by means (unionbusting versus abuse of immigration law to undermine citizens’ opportunities). Thankfully I’m not the only one who did.
2006 was your warning. 2008 was your reckoning.
sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Arnold is the result of having a very liberal wife.You eather cave on what you believe or you get a divorce.He chose to cave on everthing he said he one,s believe.(RIP) Arnold stick a fork in him he,s done.
thmcbb on February 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Socialists don’t fall very far from the tree…
Gohawgs on February 22, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Hey getaclue,
you’re too funny man…or girl..LOL !
jerrytbg on February 22, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Why aren’t those states and municipalities experiencing budget woes takin a hard look at the successes of those that are not and buy a clue?
Too many states have been imposed horrendous corporate taxes that have driven out their revenue stream. They have imposed taxes on anything that cannot run away fast enough. They discourage young people from remaining in their states by not encouraging job creation and by taxing them to death. They do no fight back against federal regulations that prevent the development of energy sources. They provide loopholes and sanctuary cities for those who do not contribute to the general welfare. They bloat the government with personnel and nonproductive programs at the expense of critical services. They are riddled with graft and paybacks. The list goes on…
Government is too big, too unaccountable, and the epitome of failure in too many states and cities.
onlineanalyst on February 22, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Sethstorm, you’re hard to figure. A seeming neo-mercantilist with a hatred of Big Business. A little dissonance there, to say the least.
ddrintn on February 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM
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