The whitewashing of Roman Polanski
posted at 12:15 pm on February 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Over thirty years ago, Roman Polanski fled the US after being charged with statutory rape. The victim, a 13-year-old girl, accused the then-44 film director of forced sexual intercourse and sodomy. After getting generous terms of release during the pretrial procedures, he fled to France in 1978 and has never returned. A Los Angeles court convicted Polanski in absentia.
Last year, a documentary attempted to spin the case to make Polanski the victim of a judicial conspiracy, rather than the fugitive from justice that he is. In Salon, Bill Wyman takes aim at the auteurs behind Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired and the Hollywood whitewash of one of their own:
Bad art is supposed to be harmless, but the 2008 film “Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired,” about the notorious child-sex case against the fugitive director, has become an absolute menace. For months, lawyers for the filmmaker have been maneuvering to get the Los Angeles courts to dismiss Polanski’s 1978 conviction, based on supposed judicial misconduct uncovered in the documentary. On Tuesday, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza ruled that if Polanski, who fled on the eve of his sentencing, in March 1978, wanted to challenge his conviction, he could — by coming back and turning himself in. …
Polanski deserves to have any potential legal folderol investigated, of course. But the fact that Espinoza had to state the obvious is testimony to the ways in which the documentary, and much of the media coverage the director has received in recent months, are bizarrely skewed. The film, which has inexplicably gotten all sorts of praise, whitewashes what Polanski did in blatant and subtle fashion — and recent coverage of the case, in the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times and elsewhere, has in turn accepted the film’s contentions at face value.
For now, the Los Angeles judge has injected a dose of reality into the debate. But “Wanted and Desired” seems to have inserted into the public consciousness the idea that Polanski, an irrepressible European, had been naughty during a colorful time, and that he has been toyed with by a monstrous legal system. Creepy and disturbing, the film does show us a few of the director’s moral warts. But it leaves the strong impression that Polanski was a wronged man, jerked around by a cartoony, publicity-hungry judge to the point where fleeing was his only viable option.
In some ways, it should hardly surprise anyone that the film industry would try to rehabilitate Polanski. His annual appearances at Cannes always come with the wistful reminder that he cannot travel to the US or practically anywhere else without fear of extradition. These usually neglect to mention Polanski’s conviction, and also the brutal nature of the crime against a girl who could barely be called adolescent. Wyman, though, doesn’t spare readers:
Now, that’s one way to portray those two men — and one that Polanski’s current lawyers would prefer. But there’s another way, too: You could show one as a child-sex predator who drugged a 13-year-old girl with quaaludes and champagne; lured her to pose for naked photographs; ignoring her protests, had sex with her; and then anally raped her. …
It’s a drag to include a scene of anal rape of a 13-year-old in your moody documentary about such a Byronic figure, but it’s also fairly relevant.
It’s equally a drag to include the fact that Mumia Abu Jamal shot and killed a Philadelphia policeman into the protests against his execution, but that’s also fairly relevant. Hollywood has for decades championed the criminals over the victims when its politics coincide with the former rather than the latter. That explains, for instance, the massively epic biopic that Steven Soderbergh and Benicio del Toro are making about Che Guevara, the murderous revolutionary and terrorist.
But Polanski is more than just a sympathetic figure to Hollywood for his politics. He was one of their stars, in the advent of independent directors, mentioned in the same breath as people like Scorcese, Frankenheimer, Malick, and others. Unlike Mumia and Che, Polanski belonged to Hollywood — and Hollywood used its power of propaganda to turn Polanski into the victim, rather than the villain, in this play.
Read all of Wyman’s article; it’s definitely a keeper.









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I won’t pretend to know a lot about the case, but one thing I do know. If you flee from criminal prosecution, don’t come back looking for leniency. If clemency is what he’s after, look somewhere else.
Selkirk on February 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Clinton too is a convicted celebrity sexual predator. He’s still a hot item in Hollywood.
Mojave Mark on February 21, 2009 at 12:22 PM
If I am convicted of a crime in France, and make it back to the US, am I also safe?
JiangxiDad on February 21, 2009 at 12:23 PM
It still pisses me off, but it hardly surprises me that this happens at this point.
Sir Corky on February 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM
As one of my very favorite authors, the honest and wise Socialist George Orwell put it:
From his essay Benefit of Clergy.
ddrintn on February 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Ya know, I always casually watched the Oscars, a few minutes here and there, mostly waiting for someone to say something stupid…
I remember a few years ago, someone made some comments about Polanski, I can’t remember the context, but they were favorable to the perv, even bestowing some sort of victim status on Polanksi. The audience gave Polanksi a big round of applause, even a few rose to their feet. I just remember a shot of some director (I think it was Scorcese) standing and applauding.
I was pretty disgusted, I won’t even watch one second these days.
reaganaut on February 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM
At the top of the list of whitewashers, we may place Tom Shales whose disgraceful review of the movie and issue is stunning.
As Wyman states, the defenders of Polanski think he was just a “naughty boy” who is a victim of nefarious anti-sex fanatics.
Here’s Shales’ disgraceful performance: Review.
Shales says, in part:
“He was never charged with rape but with “unlawful intercourse.”"
False. He was charged with rape and sodomy.
And that:
“Polanski belongs to a rarefied subculture: celebrities hounded by the state.”
Shame on you Shales.
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Why would think a rapist would not fit in with the Hollywood culture? There are absolutely no morals in Hollywood. They are proud of it. Its who they are.
volsense on February 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Maybe Polanski converted to Islam?
After all, Mohammad took a 9 year old bride, so this would make Roman a “moderate”.
The Koran absolves all crimes… by making them legal.
profitsbeard on February 21, 2009 at 12:28 PM
If he’s innocent let him return and have his day in court. After that deal with his obvious criminality in his flight to avoid prosecution.
Mason on February 21, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Polanski would have gotten into more trouble with his “chic” crowd if he had stated that, “Y’know, I don’t think George Bush is a monster.”
Wow, imagine the anger he’d face?
Drug, rape and sodomize a young girl? Well, he’s just being naughty.
Say Bush isn’t a malevolent being? Outrageous.
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Remember the Hollywood crowd are the same clowns that defended Charles Manson because he “really didn’t do anything.” Talk about irony!
The allegations of judicial and prosecutorial misconduct are lamer than lame.
Blake on February 21, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Being the gentleman that he is, Ed left out the oral cop charge.
Blake on February 21, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Wait, I thought all non-citizens were allowed into the U.S., and if you try to keep them out you’ll get sued and fined.
Jim Treacher on February 21, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Hollywood is so full of stupid, tripe people that I have almost stopped going to any movies and I NEVER watch any of their award shows anymore. The NASCAR race is on at the same time, more relevant with a better calibre of people, for sure. They would not tolerate a child rapist in their crowd. Nope, not a chance.
karenhasfreedom on February 21, 2009 at 12:40 PM
It should come as no surprise that Hollywood forgives and forgets (or pretends it never happens) with regard to Polanski; after all, they continue to embrace Woody Allen.
haikusrock on February 21, 2009 at 12:41 PM
…………….. propaganda, in it’s finest form.
Seven Percent Solution on February 21, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Here’s a copy of the indictment: PDF file.
“Rape by use of drugs”. “Sodomy”.
On a 13 year old girl.
Sickening stuff.
But to a Tom Shales, we’re all just prudes and anti-sex fanatics and Polanski is a victim “hounded by the state”.
Jerk.
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Ed, there’s a simple reason why Hollywood has never truly been outraged by Polanski’s crime.
Polanski has never carried the word “priest,” “bishop,” or “Cardinal” in his job title.
DPierre on February 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Too bad his judge wasn’t Ruth Bader Ginsurg, who believes the age of consent should be 12.
The hell of it is that if Polanski had not fled and accepted his conviction he would have been out of prison long ago and nobody would have cared. Pay your debt to society and show resmorse, and we are a remarkably forgiving people – especially with celebrities. The fact that Polanski and his sycophants really believe that his actions were not criminal is the problem here.
rockmom on February 21, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Polanski has made some great films (The Pianist is fantastic), but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a monumental scumbag.
madne0 on February 21, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Let’s not forget that this is the same bunch who still whines about “McCarthyism” because a gang of leftie screenwriters was investigated by the House UnAmerican Activities Committee almost 60 years ago.
If these putative “adults” can’t even figure out that a Senator wasn’t allied with a committee founded in Congress, what hope that they can’t tell the difference between a monster like Polanski and his victim? Look for a warmnfuzzy biopic about the execrable Billy Ayers before the year is out.
warbaby on February 21, 2009 at 12:46 PM
By the way, here’s a reminder of when Disney hired a convicted child molester to direct one of his films.
How many more of these do we need to begin to “sense a pattern”?
DPierre on February 21, 2009 at 12:47 PM
And remember, this was in the days before Bratz dolls and Britney Spears. A 13-year-old girl was still a girl. Even in Hollywood.
rockmom on February 21, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Too bad Hollywood liberals don’t hate child rapists as much as they hate George Bush.
Hawkins1701 on February 21, 2009 at 12:50 PM
So can we refer to the Obammessiah as a child rapist? After all, his Porkulous bill is screwing my children’s children!!!
fumpbump on February 21, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Such is the problem with celebritards. Whether it’s the Ditzy Hicks, Ashley Judd, or Sean Penn etc. the main reason Hollywood sticks together as closely as they do is to make each other feel less abnormal. Agreed with earlier poster that is why so many celebritards find Slick Clinton appealing. Bubba is their bellwether for whatever perversion is currently in style.
viking01 on February 21, 2009 at 12:52 PM
If Barry Whosane makes it thru the next 4 years, (without being forcibly removed–my constant prayer), he will pardon this piece of human offal.
Heck, he’ll have a sleep-over with Polanski and plucky little dictator, Ama-lama-ding-dong. Hollyweird will make millions from the screenplay.
Christine on February 21, 2009 at 12:52 PM
The screenplay will be called: Guess who’s coming to rape her.
Christine on February 21, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Sure he’s a rapist, and sure he hasn’t paid his taxes in 25 years, and sure he’s flunked out of grade school after taking “up-skirt” photos of the Principal (the saintly Mother Constance Maria), and sure he’s been on the run from the Feds forever – but are those any reasons to prevent this guy and Bill Ayers from being appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court?
Cinday Blackburn on February 21, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Why doesn’t France prosecute Polanski if they won’t extradite him?
JiangxiDad on February 21, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Thanks for the link; I didn’t realize Andrew Vachss had a website.
For any of you who wish to know what child abuse feels like from the inside, I heartily recommend Vachss’ books. I warn you, it’s not for the faint of heart.
There are damaged saints living among us, paying forever for the crimes of adults who had them in their power when they were defenseless. For those who don’t succumb to the evil instilled in them, the darkness goes on forever.
warbaby on February 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM
“Strong impression,” is a gigantic understatement. I knew nothing of the story before watching the documentary and haven’t since done a moment of research about it. The intent of the documentary is blatantly obvious.
TheBigOldDog on February 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM
They are too busy practicing their surrender tactics!!!
fumpbump on February 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Some people tell me that I should ignore the man and appreciate the art. Screw that. No use for Polanski or the Polanski apologists. Dude’s a rapist and a child molester.
Krydor on February 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I just finished reading Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Infidel.
“Must-read” doesn’t cover it. It’s a tome for the ages.
When Ayaan condemned Mohammed in a tv interview for that very same thing, that’s when the sh!t really hit the fan against her.
From that moment on, she ceased living her life as a free private citizen, and began her life as an apostate hounded and hunted by the “tolerant” agents of Islam.
Hawkins1701 on February 21, 2009 at 12:56 PM
And it’s this kind of garbage that makes sure I will never set foot in a cinema.
Honestly why people love and continue to support today’s movies I will never know. Not only are they just bad in terms of entertainment value, but most of the people involved are complete trash.
The old movies with actual decent human beings were pretty good. Anything with John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Bob Hope, Charlton Heston etc. But supporting any of today’s Hollywood scumbags makes me sick.
Grayson on February 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I don’t know why you’re so upset with Polanski. It’s not like he said something politically incorrect or something.
bw222 on February 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM
If Barry Whosane makes it thru the next 4 years, (without being forcibly removed–my constant prayer), he will pardon this piece of human offal.
Heck, he’ll have a sleep-over with Polanski and plucky little dictator, Ama-lama-ding-dong. Hollyweird will make millions from the screenplay.
Christine on February 21, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Christine, if Obama doesn’t want either of his daughters to be punished with a baby, i am quite sure he doesn’t want Polanski to be punished for raping someone.
Ghoul aid on February 21, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Lets not criticize child rapists! According to “Mediahacks” we need to throw Polanski and his ilk a parade!
csdeven on February 21, 2009 at 1:12 PM
I got the Pianist from Netflix and watched it last week (yes it was fantastic). I didn’t realize that Polanski was the director until I watched the extra features–can’t get enough of Adrian Brody.
I’m old enough to remember when Polanski was charged and fled. Let’s just say it seemed very strange to watch him working and socializing like a normal person given what’s known about him.
I sometimes wonder if his wife’s murder drove him insane (his wife was Sharon Tate, the most famous of the Manson victims). I can’t see something like that turning a person into a child molester. But what do I know? There’s so much evil in the world.
baldilocks on February 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Looks like he would make an excellent Sex-Education Secretary in the President’s Cabinet….
DL13 on February 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM
This is an absolutley perfect example of the reason why Hollywierd has no credibilty with the average man/woman on the street.
Hollyweird vilified Elia Kazan in 1999 for his participation in the McCarthey hearings. Remember the photos of the Actors who refused to stand and applaud when Kazan recieved a special award at the Oscar cerimonies.
And yet then they celebrate and cheer for…
pedophiles
infidelity
murders (Mumia Abul Jamal, Tookie Williams, Robert Blake)
drug users and alchoholics
The Castros, Mugabe, Hugo Chavez, Che, Mao, etc…
Producers of Anti-American propaganda movies no one sees such as…
Lions for Lambs
Redacted
Rendition
In The Valley Of Ellah
The final insult is the consescending attitude so many in Hollywood have for the Conservative movement in the U.S. reflected in so many of the movies now made. Moral authority my ass!
greasywrench on February 21, 2009 at 1:19 PM
I suspect that she wasn’t the first underage girl he had contact with.
As to the Pianist, I held out for a long time and then rented it and still feel bad about doing so. Can I claim the But, I’m an Adrian Brody Fan, Your Honor, defense, too???
Blake on February 21, 2009 at 1:22 PM
Remember, this was back in the time of Pretty Baby when child porn and rape were very en vogue.
Blake on February 21, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Not to deflect blame from the obvious criminal, but I’ve always wondered what this girl’s mother could possibly have been smoking.
Who leaves their 13-year old daughter alone with a adult, male, complete stranger for 12-24 hours?
Tanya on February 21, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Why won’t France extradite him? To hell with France already.
DarkCurrent on February 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Ms locks,
As always, I’m impressed by your kindness and understanding toward people I have a hard time finding any sympathy for.
I have to say, though, that Polanski always seemed to me to personify the sense of entitlement that has made public culture the swamp it is today. What was notable even then was how much Sharon Tate’s murder seemed to be all about him.
I think I’m not the Christian you are. I’m working on it, though. Thanks for being you.
warbaby on February 21, 2009 at 1:37 PM
If Polanski sent an instant message to the girl in Congress he would really be in trouble.
RobCon on February 21, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Baldilocks,
I lived in SoCal and was 15 when Polanski fled. I had already read Helter Skelter by that time and felt a lot of sympathy towards Polanski for the same reason — right up until he fled rather than face the charges. After that, I figured he knew he was guilty as sin and rational enough to attempt to escape the consequences.
But I do closely relate to what you wrote.
Ed Morrissey on February 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Hollywood and those who make their living off writing about it wants to think of themselves as being one of the strongest believers in egalitarianism, when it fact they’re among the biggest promoters of elitism in the world. The only difference is their elitism goes towards people both with artistic talent and the right kind of political beliefs, instead of people who have earned or inherited money or position.
Their attitude is anyone who could have done the movies Polanski did either deserves special treatment, or must be telling the truth about being railroaded by the court system, in collaboration with the mom and the (obviously lying) 13-year-old. If Roman can show businessmen are like John Huston in “Chinatown”, than he’s got to be morally on the side of the just, because he sees evil where they see evil, never mind that what Polanski did to the girls was every bit as evil as what Huston’s character did to Faye Dunnaway.
jon1979 on February 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM
“The Pianist” sucked and Polanski is approaching life expectancy for a male. Forcing him to die in France as an unavenged coward should be punishment enough.
awake on February 21, 2009 at 1:49 PM
The US government can request that Polanski be prosecuted on the California charges by the French authorities. They have not made that request afaik.
aengus on February 21, 2009 at 1:51 PM
It seems that breaking-the-law and then beating-the-rap is currently in vogue in attaining celebrity status.
I think this is behavior is also defined as social anarchy.
Hmm… Social Anarchy is in vogue in Hollywood? Whooda thunk it?
Lawrence on February 21, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Twice. And knowing that it was a nude photo shoot.
Blake on February 21, 2009 at 2:00 PM
What’s the last word? If we haven’t made the request, do you know why not, and who would have been the person to do it?
JiangxiDad on February 21, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Not sure. An extradition request was filed and denied as Polanski is a French citizen and thus protected under the US-France extradition treaty. The girl (now a grown woman) Samantha Geimer has publicly appealed to Polanski to return and face the music of his own volition.
aengus on February 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM
More proof that abstinence doesn’t work…
RadioFreeUSA on February 21, 2009 at 2:27 PM
That’s the perfect question. At the time it seemed like a replay of the stage mother in The Godfather delivering her young daughter to be raped by Jack Woltz.
Astonishingly enough, nobody in the public prints made that connection, despite the currency of the analogy.
warbaby on February 21, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I’ll say it again:
Polanski’s Macbeth is to die for …
Well, in keeping with all the new hope and change and stuff, can’t he come back and be guilty as sin and free as a bird??? After all, isn’t this is a great country?
Doesn’t the film department at the University of Illinois at Chicago have need for a non-repentant sexual predator, pedophile pervert rapist on its faculty???
texacalirose on February 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Leftists love to lift their ilk out of the muck. Paula Poundstone is a regular on NPR, Paul Reubens does a lot of supporting roles in flicks, Woodie Allen never really left, & in politics, there are tons of leftist ne-er-do-wells thriving.
jgapinoy on February 21, 2009 at 2:40 PM
And stay out punk! too bad the kids dad didn’t put a hollowpoint through your ugly mug. come back and maybe someone will.
nukeemnow on February 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM
The circus makes more money on freaks than clowns.
Now when you add freaks, clowns and animals then you got,
Congress.
lasertex on February 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM
I was skiing with Jack Nicholson the day he was notified of Polanski’s arrest. He told me, and I quote: “My buddy Roman Polanski got caught with his pants down with an underage girl at my place in LA. The dumb f***”
It was a game to Nicholson and not doubt a game to his buddy Polanski.
Charles Martel on February 21, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
+100
csdeven on February 21, 2009 at 3:15 PM
He should eat shit and die-slowly, of AIDS…
jsanderssr on February 21, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I know a little about this case and it is alleged that Warren Beatty schtupped the girls’s friend, that both girls looked of age, and that they most certainly knew what they were doing.
Why wasn’t Beatty charged?
Yet more cod moralising from Ed who’d do better to worry about Catholic priests sodomizing innocent young boys with the tacit sanction of the Vatican.
Ares on February 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM
It’s not rape if committed by a Liberal. It’s a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
Montana on February 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Reminds me of the “Birdman of Alcatraz” with Burt Lancaster. People were writing the president to pardon the “Birdman”. What the public didn’t know was that Robert Stroud was a con-man of the first order. Most of his time behind bars was spent in isolation. Not as punishment, but to protect him from the other convicts. He also like to dabble in writing stories involving pedophilia. A real gem of a guy.
GarandFan on February 21, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Just more Hollywood Liberalism. No one has to obey laws because they are who they are. Don’t bring him back. We don’t need him. He deserves his fate.
BetseyRoss on February 21, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Be sure to see Roman Polanski’s new movie “Pretty Baby 2“…[sarc/off]
Braindroppings on February 21, 2009 at 4:18 PM
You’re a nut.
Ed is “moralising” about a 40-year old man drugging, raping and sodomizing a 13-year old?
The girl was drugged. She didn’t know what she “was doing.”
Like I said, you’re a nut.
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Braindroppings wrote:
The original Pretty Baby was directed by the late French director Louis Malle. Malle’s magnum opus is the semi-autobiographical Murmur of the Heart (1971), in which a 14-year-old boy recovering from illness seeks to lose his virginity. In the end, he does — to his MILFish mom.
Most film critics think of Murmur as one of the great films of the era, and shrug off the unapologetic incest.
If you think the whole case against Polanski was overblown, read the grand jury questioning of his victim, and get ready to feel your skin crawl.
L.N. Smithee on February 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM
According to a poster above, “she knew what she was doing.”
Yep, that’s why Polanksi drugged her.
Man, weird people out there. Excusing these acts?
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM
This is more conclusive evidence that
Hollywood liberals
Are activly working to ensure
Our enemeis
Rapists
Child molesters
Muslims
Terrorists
Are portrayed as innocent while the only thing the leftists waoks villify is our fine military
Because they know the only thing standing between us and total lefist evil wakos running our country is the military and our right to keep and bear arms..
I will never trust any actor or liberal
I dare say this when the crap hits the fan
liberals better start running..
jcila on February 21, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Ares on February 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Thanks for providing the NAMBLA perspective, douche.
PimFortuynsGhost on February 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM
This turd needs somebody’s dad to kick his ass
if that were my daughter, i would have flown to france to ensure that.
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on February 21, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Polanski, artistic genius notwithstanding, was most likely always a child molester, Baldi. What this Polanski pervert did was forced anal sex.
What Polanski did was perverse, immensely painful, and a devastating sexual attack.
Thinks Polanski, “Gee, my wife was killed, so I think it’s justifiable for me do some really new and different “thing” I have never done. Maybe I’ll drug a young, nubile adolescent and then force anal sex with this her.” Something new to him? I. Don’t. Think. So.
What he did was evil of such proportion that it should rightly shadow him, doggedly, to the end of his days.
marybel on February 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Hollywood did this with that pervert Kinsey, too.
jjjen on February 21, 2009 at 6:26 PM
That was my point.
baldilocks on February 21, 2009 at 6:46 PM
I certainly don’t know how any type of “reasoning” is done under such circumstances and hope that you don’t either.
baldilocks on February 21, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Baldi,
I hoped and thought that, and I thank you for your clarification, perspicacity, and …. attentiveness to the comment thread.
I have always admired you.
marybel on February 21, 2009 at 6:53 PM
The mother was essentially pimping her daughter. There’s no way the mom didn’t know what was going on. If Polanski is guilty of a crime, than the victim’s mom was a knowing accessory to that crime.
The reason why France won’t extradite him is that what he did isn’t a crime in France.
rokemronnie on February 21, 2009 at 7:02 PM
This is going to sound like I’m trying to mitigate the severity of Polanski’s crime, but I’m not. Rather, I’m pointing out how complex the human soul can be, how someone’s character can contain both extremes of good and evil. The Pianist is perhaps one of the most moving, moral and transcendent films ever made. It’s highly ironic, and a great tragedy that this man did something that rightfully should put him in shackles when the force of his art has been to shine light on injustice. His own life would make a great story, and in addition to paying his debt to society, and the young girl, he might find repentance in telling that story, even if symbolically, in film.
pleaseandthankyou on February 21, 2009 at 7:04 PM
It’s not against French law for an adult to drug, rape and sodomize a 13-year old girl?
SteveMG on February 21, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Ed, I compare this to Hollywood’s treatment of the director Elia Kazan, who won 2 directing oscars, and who named names to HUAC. Which, if it was 1943 and he named names of right wingers who flirted with Nazism, I suppose he would have been praised. Anyway, Kazan was given a cold reception at an awards banquet for this reason, while Polanski was given a Standing O as best director of “The Pianist”. Yes, for the guy who perpetrated an elaborate scheme to drug and anally rape a 13 year old girl. In a later interview about his sexual proclivities, he said he liked girls, and added, “and they seem to like me too”. Classic child molester. And he’s got Harrison Ford and Jack Nicholson and myraid more in his corner.
Paul-Cincy on February 21, 2009 at 7:33 PM
While I agree, pandthankyou, the soul is indeed quite complex and, in a Jungian sense, contains “both extremes of good and evil,” in practical terms, Polanski, having committed unspeakable horror on an adolescent many years his junior in years and experience, still must bear the consequences of his almost unspeakable evil.
Polanski has never paid even a scant downpayment on his debt to this 13 year old and society, other than being forced to live in France, regardless of his artistic endeavors. For anyone to absolve him of his evil act is a malignant miscarriage of justice. In fact, in the society of today, telling his “story” would simply enrich him financially, which also is an unspeakable travesty.
marybel on February 21, 2009 at 7:38 PM
I loathe Polanski and I loathe Frince for taking his arse in.
ex-Democrat on February 21, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Of course Hollywood is on his side. He’s not a Catholic priest.
hadsil on February 21, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Legally, a thirteen year old girl can not “know what she’s doing” and therefore can NOT give consent – hence the term “statutory rape”.
greasywrench on February 21, 2009 at 8:47 PM
I wouldn’t know about his so-called “great films”. If the marquee has his name on it, I pass.
It is, as long as it doesn’t happen in France.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2009 at 9:42 PM
The night the crime occurred, the 13 year old’s mother determined what had happened, and called the police.
We have here a world-famous director, with no previous record — in fact, a sympathetic figure due to his loss in the Manson murders — taking pictures to be used in an internationally famous beauty magazine. Mother may have been stupid, but she wasn’t pimping.
I know for a fact parents are often stupid and miss unlawful behavior concerning their children. I did with respect to my son’s drug usage — and that doesn’t make me a drug dealer nor an enabler. Just stupid.
unclesmrgol on February 21, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Since this thread is winding down and I have the time…
Even if the mother was essentially “pimping her daughter,” how does that absolve Polanski, who has free will and acts perversely in his own prurient interest? He’s a deviant.
I don’t care if the THIRTEEN year old GIRL herself was twirling around on a desk “asking for it.” She was still a MINOR. Come on people, this is a teenager, no matter how alluring, a virtual girl inside an alluring body, that this PERVERT drugged and raped anally. This act was a complete volitional perverse choice by no one but Polanski. He forced himself on this young woman that he’d, unbeknownst to her, drugged. It was an abomination, and it was Polanski’s evil act, period.
In no way imaginable does this compare with you, unclesmrgol, missing the signs of your son’s drug abuse. Screwing up here, when your son took pains to deceive you (classic with drug abusers) does not make you a bad parent. You are probably just a parent who wasn’t informed,snoopy, or suspicious enough. You are not in the same league with Polanski – he’s a guilty slime, you’re just normally gullible parents with a kid who was abusing drugs…and they’re always deceptive. Ask anyone in AA or NA, they’ll tell you what I say is absolutely true.
marybel on February 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM
And they can have him. After he serves every second of every minute of every hour, of every day of his sentence.
juanito on February 21, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Still happens. Thora Birch was only 16 when she did a nude scene for American Beauty. Parental permission was required. Someone is going to have to explain to me why that isn’t child pornography.
hawkdriver on February 22, 2009 at 1:25 AM
marybel wrote:
Stamn draight. It seems to be accepted fact that Nastassja Kinski, the star of the first film he directed after fleeing America (1979′s Tess), had a sexual relationship with Polanski beginning at the age of fifteen.
L.N. Smithee on February 22, 2009 at 2:42 AM
Judges have never cared too much how fugitives end up in their courtrooms. Perhaps some sting operation. As I recall the FBI lured a terrorist onto a yacht with the help of a pretty face and a short skirt back in the 80′s. Perhaps something along these lines should be tried. However, with Barry bin Laden at the helm, I’m not holding my breath.
I hear OJ needs a roommate.
Bubba Redneck on February 22, 2009 at 2:43 AM
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