Glenn Beck: The end of America is nigh, maybe
posted at 4:18 pm on February 21, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Even before watching this, if you’d asked me which media star’s most likely to turn survivalist, move to the mountains, and start doing his show from a lead-lined bunker, there’s no doubt what the answer would have been. There’s something “off” about Beck in a way that’s not true of other chat-show hosts, although that’s not necessarily a criticism: O’Reilly and Hannity can be tiresome in more than small doses but this guy I find watchable even at a stretch. Partly it’s the sheer bravado of the performance, partly it’s the challenge of trying to figure out what’s going on in his head to make him the way he is. As big an audience as he has, I’m surprised it’s not bigger. He’s one of a kind.
I’m giving you all three segments from yesterday’s show; if you’re only up for one, stick with number three. Nothing they’re saying is terribly implausible, frankly — except maybe the idea that in five years NYC will look like Mexico City or Baghdad — but because the tone of Beck’s show is always somewhat febrile, it’s hard to know how seriously to take any of it. Segment two, at least, is very serious indeed. If you’re hungry for dessert afterwards, try his appearance on Fox & Friends yesterday morning to promote this show, in which he talks about his hands shaking and frightens Gretchen into hiding under the couch. Like I say, one of a kind.
Update 2/22: A couple of lefty readers e-mailed to ask if I find any of this crap credible. Answer: No, except for the scenario sketched out in segment two about Iran targeting Saudi oil installations in the event of regional war. That’s why I singled it out as serious. I should have been more careful, though, in saying that nothing here is terribly implausible, which I wrote with the inflation bit at the beginning in mind. Segment three certainly is implausible; when I said it’s the one to watch, it’s because it’s nutty and most emblematic of that “lead-lined bunker” mentality. Apologies if that was ambiguous. I’m not stocking up on canned goods, I promise.
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Suggest having your vision examined. You are being “intellectually” dishonest.
RepubChica on February 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM
No, anyone who claims that Obama is a radical socialist either doesn’t know what radical socialism is or is lying. I suspect it’s the former, people managed to once convince themselves that Hillary and Bill were radical socialists. LOL
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 10:48 AM
“Reditribution of wealth”, “constitution needs to be changed”, ect., ect……..
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM
“Socialized medicine.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM
“Elitist” specialty: playing the Dumb Card. I will hail to his majesty’s dumbfounding sagacity.
Oh, we know what it is and we certainly don’t need the resident agitator trying to play weak games of mind-f*#king on what is is.
RepubChica on February 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM
William Ayers.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 10:54 AM
At one time I would have agreed with you regarding Bill O’Reilly but he has displayed the same “snarky and condescending” behavior towards Ann Coulter and many other guests, all of whom were far more knowledgeable and personable than he is. I believe that Bill O’Reilly puts a moist finger to the wind and readjusts his moral compass, based on which way the wind blows – left or right.
sinsing on February 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM
I think that one dude is a plant.
Anyways, to answer the charge on whether I eavesdrop in Walmarts… lol…. no eavesdropping was required in a place where some very loud opinionated folks are in the lines and isles. I know now not to go there on a saturday night.
johnnyU on February 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM
DeathToMediaHacks asks:
Well, perhaps not slavery but certainly serfdom. That’s what I call it when ~40% of my income is confiscated by taxes. Makes me feel like a sharecropper.
SgtSchultz on February 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM
What utter and complete bullshit.
doriangrey on February 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Hmmm…Methinks someone here is a child of the corn. You’re right, I did vote – and lost – this past election. Someone from ACORN stole my vote when they voted more than ONCE! That’s radical socialism for ya.
LoneStarGal on February 22, 2009 at 11:06 AM
Wait’ll inflation kicks in which it’s about to. There’s going to be a bunch of libs wondering how.
Well, you ignoramuses wanted change. Failure = change.
Mojave Mark on February 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM
My grandparents were indentured servants and they thought that, that was a small price to pay for freedom; which we are rapidly loosing. Big brother is watching.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:09 AM
So now you are equating slavery to high tax rates. Awesome dude, simply awesome.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Why are you consistently intellctually dishonest. You claim that “history repeats” is an argument than can be used to justify insane paranoia. I merely gave you another example of insane paranoia that could be justified with “history repeats.” Is only right wing insane paranoia acceptable these days?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:14 AM
DEAR LEADER goes on TV in prime time and says if we don’t tax the rich at 90%, the world will end. No different really than what he did with the stimulus. And unfortunately the MSM played right along and convinced 55% of the imbecile Americans that he was telling the truth.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:15 AM
I would think doing backbreaking labor while owning maybe a few pairs of shoes and eating enough to survive would make you “feel like a sharecropper.” What you are is a well off person who wants a little more of his income. Fine, but you’re not a “sharecropper” or a “serfs.” Serfs owned ZERO percent of their labor.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM
He is one of my professors at FTU (Fairy Tale University).
He teaches reeling and writhing, of course, to begin with and then the different branches of arithmetic – ambition, distraction, uglification and derision.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM
No you didn’t. You equated high taxes with slavery making them both on the same level of evil. And I thank you for that.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Totally 100% plausible, get the pitch forks out before he does it.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM
William Ayers.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:19 AM
You called?
apacalyps on February 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM
RE: 90% tax rates
I don’t think this is that outlandish a possibility.
For one thing Obama and Biden both talked during the election about the need for redistribution of wealth and being patriotic by paying a fair share of taxes. What exactly does that mean if not an increase in tax rates for the more financially productive?
Right now the current 2001/2003 Bush cuts will sunset at the end of 2010. After that we are back to 2000 tax levels which means that most of us will be giving an additional 5% of our taxable income to government. That right there will cause a tax revolt. That’s not crazy speculation, DeathtoMediaHacks, that’s the law as it currently stands.
The governments going to have to do something to cut these deficits. Obama just said in his radio address yesterday that he wents to get the deficit down from 1 trillion to a mere 500 billion by 2012 through a combination of budget cuts (mostly phasing out of commitment in Iraq while simultaneously increasing commitment in Afghanistan – how does that work? but I digress) and TAX INCREASES. That’s a LOT of taxes bub.
He can’t risk a tax revolt so I suspect he and his congress leaders will propose that as the current tax law sunsets the taxes for persons under 150 K are relatively unaffected while for those of you making over 150 K, well the sky’s the limit! Class warfare has worked well before for Dems why not do it again?
Does that mean 90% of income over say, 250,000? Let’s hear from Congressman McNerney of California as reported to Glen Reynolds by a reader: “He told me that he thought tax rates should go up for the very rich and that the top marginal tax rate should be 90%. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing, so I asked in a voice that many in the room could hear if he really meant 90%, and he said yes. Several people asked me after my turn was over if they heard correctly what he said, and were amazed when I said yes.”
peterargus on February 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM
I find fascinating that Huckster and fellow moonbats like him dismiss the very real possibility of an economic collapse. And economic collapse which given the alarming rate of debt Obama is taking on has a real chance of happening
Yet for 8 years they were convinced Bush and his SS Stormtroopers were minutes away from breaking down his door and taking him off to a concentration camp. Even today after 8 years of nothing happening to their right the moonbats still think Bush was worse than Hitler.
They are liberals though, so logic and reason cannot be expected.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 11:22 AM
You’re really not that cute or clever. You’ve basically descended into putting your fingers and your ears and screaming “lalalal” if you’re going to pursue that argument. You’d have a point if I had said “taxes are like slavery.” But I didn’t. Let’s try this one more time.
1. You said “90% tax rates could happen”
2. I said, unlikely.
3. You said, it’s happened before, “history repeats.”
Now I hate to be condescending but you’re actually forcing me to spell this out for you. When you said “history repeats” you didn’t provide any evidence that Obama WILL raise taxes to 90% Or even that it is likely. You took what is called a “truism” which most people generally accept and you applied it to your speculation. It’s like taking an argument from someone you disagree with and saying “Well a broken clock is always right twice a day.” Yes it’s true that a broken clock is right twice a day, but that truism doesn’t say anything about the argument you disagree with. Neither does saying “history repeats” which is generally true enough to PROVE that Obama is going to raise tax cuts ti 1950s levels. By your own admission taxes were that high under a Republican administration and a Democrat lowered them. If “history repeats” is the only basis for predicting how Obama will act, then it’s just as likely he’ll lower them ala JFK. Because, remember all I have to do to prove my argument is say “history repeats” and that’s suffecient.
4. I make an analogy between you claiming history repeats = Obama is going to raise taxes and Black Panthers saying “history repeats” as evidence that slavery could return. There was no “equating” of slavery and taxes anywhere in my post. I merely took the logical equation you used and applied it elsewhere to make it look ridiculous.
It’s a little mind numbing that you’re so dense I had to break it down like that for you. Please stop mischaracterizing me in the future to avoid these kinds of painstaking lessons in logic and argumentation.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM
100% minus 40% = 60%. He is 60% of a whole person so you are right Professor Hacks. I don’t know what he is complaining about as that is just as good as being 3/5 of a person.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM
And, if 90% is good then why not 100%?
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM
If 70% tax rates were acceptable in the 70’s, why not 90%? I don’t think it’s far fetched for some to call for a 90% tax rate on those who make (let’s throw out a number here) say, 2 million? That leaves them with 200K. That might sound really plausible to someone who makes 35K a year.
If the energy secretary can call for taxing Americans based on the number of miles they drive using a GPS system, yeah, I can believe that a 90% tax rate can happen.
pullingmyhairout on February 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Um why didn’t it cause a tax revolt during the Clinton years?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM
100% minus 40% = 60%. He is 60% of a whole person so you are right Professor Hacks. I don’t know what he is complaining about as that is just as good as being 3/5 of a person.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Awesome
peterargus on February 22, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Because it’s NOT the 70s anymore and none of our elected officials, not even Bernie Sanders, are anywhere near advocating anything like that. The American people would not stand for it. And, as much as you refuse to accept it, Obama wants to WIN in 2012. How the hell will he do that if he’s proposing 90% tax increass? Let’s think this through to its logical conclusion. Not what happens AFTER a 90% tax hike, that’s just fear mongering. Lay out the scenario where we get to 90%.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:27 AM
If DEAR LEADER lifts the SS cap we’re not that far from 90% as it is.
Top rate goes to 39.6 in 2010 after Bush cuts expire.
Add 12.4% SS tax
Add 3.2% medicare
We’re already at 55.2.
It’s not hard to imagine over the next 5 years 39.6 going to 55, 12.4 going to 18 and 3.2 going to 7. And before you know it we’re in the 80% area of tax rates.
And since SS tax is paid 1/2 by employer, 1/2 by employee, unless you are self employed, it doesn’t even seem THAT high. And it is just applicable on the “RICH” so who cares right?
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM
You’re totally right. Being wealthy enough to pay 40% tax cut is the exact same as being sold on an auction block and working until you die/beaten to death, being forcibly raped to produce kids and having those kids sold for profit. It’s 100% the same as being whipped for learning to read or for organizing groups away from your masters. No difference. 3/5 a person slavery and 40% tax rates I literally can not tell the difference.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Yeah and with $4B going to ACORN this year, he should have no problem doing so.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I don’t know about you DtMH but here in NY we are taxed to the hilt. Taking another 4-5 K from my pay will put a fork in our family finances. If Clinton had raised my taxes by that much it would also have caused a tax revolt for the same thing. It’s a relative thing. People learn to live with what they have over time. If you all of sudden take more away then – tada! – they get angry.
peterargus on February 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM
They are quite learned in the fields of reeling, writhing, distraction and uglification, however.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Class envy.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM
OMG will you get off the ACORN lies already. ACORN is required BY LAW to turn in every single registration sheet that their workers return to them. They then flagged those sheets that they suspected as fraudulent. Mickey Mouse was never registered to vote and if he was who the hell would have shown up with ID as “Mickey Mouse.” You can pretend all you want to, ACORN did not steal the election in Ohio. Obama just won.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Hucketer: 2 honest question for you:
1. What level of income do you consider rich?
2. What tax rate should the rich pay that you see as fair?
Simple questions. No filibustering please if you decide to answer, just 2 numbers.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Where did you get that from?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM
The Clinton tax rate makes sense to me.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:33 AM
HA HA HA. Come on man. I know nobody is gullible enough to believe that. You are either really dense or lying.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Class warfare. That’s how he’ll do it. How is he going to pay for all of this “stimulus”? Someone has to pay, right? right? He’ll sprew some sort of populist bullshit like, everyone has to suffer, everyone must pay their fair share, blah, blah, blah, and most people will buy into it because to them, that kind of money is a pipe dream. It’ll pass and the masses will love him because he “stuck it to the rich.”
pullingmyhairout on February 22, 2009 at 11:35 AM
That answers neither of my questions.
Try again please. And this time answer in the form of providing a dollar figure for question 1. and a percentage value for question 2.
Gracias.
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Why do you advocate the taking of earned income from people? Do you think you are better able to spend it? Is it some kind of communal good thing? Why do you think Dear Leader should be funded in ever increasing amounts. Is he smarter than everyone? Do you pay extra taxes? You do know that is allowed, don’t you?
genso on February 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Now I know for sure that you are my very own Professor Hacks! What are the odds of finding two such Drama Queens with the very same name in just one life time and without a magnifying glass, I ask you.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM
So when are you going to actually open your eyes? You are kidding right?
tarpon on February 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM
angryed on February 22, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Add 12.4% SS tax
Add 3.2% medicare
Obama has stated several times in the past week or so that he will begin to address the need for SS reform. What does he have a mind? I think I have a pretty good idea: During the campaign his position of SS was that it could be funded by dropping the salary cap.
You see those rich folks, they just have toooo much money. All that extra dough could be put to such good use building fast rail lines between LA and Las Vegas, dog parks, and handing out free condoms. Wouldn’t want the filthy rich actually INVESTING in anything.
peterargus on February 22, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Nope, ACORN followed the law by submitted all of their flagged as fraudulent registtration forms. I know it’s hard their in right wing talk radio echo chamber, but that’s the law. There’s no such thing as “voter registration fraud.” The reason Gozalez stepped down was all about prosecutors refusing to bully ACORN for following state law. If ACORN had NOT flagged those forms as fraudulent then you may have a point. But they did.
What do I consider “rich” or “wealthy” I’ll say a networth of a million dollars.
Now before you start squawking and squealing and saying “but Obama says thats 250,000″ I don’t think that only “rich” people should pay taxes. So maybe that will clear all that up. The middle class should have to pay taxes too and 39%, as it was under Clinton, seems fair.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Income redistribution.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Well, I never heard that before Professor, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Why do you think that? What’s your grand plan that requires people to give up more of their income? Be specific.
genso on February 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Everyone should pay taxes. It makes them accountable. The question is how much? If you want to stimulate growth in the economy, the cut taxes and let people keep their money to do with as they see fit – pay their mortgage, health insurance, gas, school tuition, etc. But cut them for everyone – not just those under a certain income level.
I will gladly pull the wagon but I resent being told by my government to pull harder so others can have a free ride.
pullingmyhairout on February 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM
If you’re going to converse can you not just put out random two word phrases?
Right now? I think it’d be nice to pay for these two wars and TARP I and not have our kids be stuck with it. Call me crazy.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Fair to you? Is it fair to you for people who do not pay income tax to (Get ready for this) get an “income tax refund?
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM
You are a complete idiot. Production is the only way to pay for anything. Taxing the producers is the quickest way to kill production. And I guess its ok for Dear Leader to have his stimulus pork?
genso on February 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM
No tax cut would allow most working class Americans to pay for school tuition and healthcare along with their other bills. Wages in this country have fallen as foreign competition pushes American wages down. Ironically in the era of “oppressive high tax rates” in the 1950s wages were also high enough to support a family of four on one job.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM
how about just cutting government spending?? including social security and medicare??
can’t have that though..it would be the end of the world…
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Why use more when two are sufficient.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:52 AM
They don’t get an income tax refund, they get a payroll tax cut, good lord do you even know your facts? This isn’t an “income tax cut.”
I agree, and yet under the GOP American production has decreased. We don’t MAKE anything anymore thanks to outsourcing of our labor. And I might also add that under these great GOP tax policies, American productivity has gone up, but wages have not. Americans work harder for less money than they ever have. Shouldn’t “trickle down” economics have causes some wage increases for someone by now?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:53 AM
I am sorry but that sounds more like a fare-the-well to this middle class to me, Professor Hacks.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 11:54 AM
And our retired population’s medical expenses will be paid by whom? Is our argument that when we can’t work we should just die off quickly and painfully. You can save and save and save, but hospital bills will wipe out hundreds of thousands of savings in a very short period of time.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Again the middle class died under Bill Clinton? What revisionist history fairy land are you living in?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:55 AM
It’s a little mind numbing that you’re so dense I had to break it down like that for you. Please stop mischaracterizing me in the future to avoid these kinds of painstaking lessons in logic and argumentation.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:23 AM
You know, I’m so over you snarky, liberal elitists trying to “explain” things to those of us who know history as well as lived history. Your lack of a grasp on reality is truly breathtaking. It appears from your posts that you have learned the art of spewing utter drivil at the feet of a master. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can look at the events of the last month and see it for what it is: a swift, bold attack by Obambi and his minions to weaken opposition and solidify their power. I’ve seen enough in my lifetime to know what I’m looking at now.
pebbles on February 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM
this is ludicrous…ever hear of unions?? you know those democRAT thugs that drive companies out of business??
you know we’ve tried your democRAT economics, in the 1930s, and the 1970s…total FAILURE..
so lets try those failed policies of socialism again…wonderful….the market really likes what obama has done huh???
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Speaking of what the future holds, friend. What all of you need to know is this. And this is not a joke. Glenn Beck is on to something despite the fact that he just needs to stop pretending to be Christian and realize he is being fooled by Joseph Smith who twisted and changed the truth concerning Christ. I pray that God will give my Mormon friend eyes to see and ears to hear the truth of who God is. That being said, what we see taking place today; an unprecedented increase in the frequency of disasters, a dangerous world on the verge of major war on every corner, lawlessness, disease, immorality, not to mention the rebirth of Israel, the recapturing of Jerusalem, and the world’s attempt at bringing peace to the Middle East (and there’s more that I left out for the sake of brevity). The Lord described these events as being the signs of the times. They would occur like labor pains and increase in intensity and frequency to convince us that Jesus will return to this earth during our generation. The day of Armageddon which the Bible talks about is coming. I think this world financial crisis is paving the way for the antichrist to come on to the world scene (after the rapture takes place) as the Bible describes him temporarily solving the worlds problems and bringing peace. Oh, there is so much more we’ve left out. Friend, there is still time to renounce the sinfulness of our lives, but that time is quickly running out. I don’t know when death is gonna come, but God will give you everlasting life, and it’s not just a belief, it’s experiential. Don’t wait another moment to get right with Him (Romans 10:13).
apacalyps on February 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM
So, you think that our children are not going to have to pay for the stimulus package, motrgage bailout, second stimulus package, ect., ect…….?
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 11:57 AM
you’ll notice that the market didn’t take off until 1995, when the republicans got into office…and cut spending, and the capital gains tax…
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Right now? I think it’d be nice to pay for these two wars and TARP I and not have our kids be stuck with it. Call me crazy.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 22, 2009 at 11:48 AM
That is fair. Problem is it’s unrealistic. We just don’t have the money for all that without grinding all investment to a halt so I am afraid we are going to be passing some of this debt off to our children.
Interesting though how you didn’t include Obama’s Stimulus I and Tarp II in your list. Does that mean you think that our children should pay for them?
peterargus on February 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM
You’ve never worked a farm have you?
50 acres a small house and a tractor and a few implements and your way north of a million net worth. I know plenty of people who lead very, very hard lives and are rich by your definition.
JackS on February 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM
lets not forget about the EZEKIEL SCENARIO…which is playing out on the world today…Israel becomes a nation..and its main enemy is IRAN, which along with russia, leads an invasion..
couldn’t happen….could it???
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I will try to demonstrate the soundness of President Obama and Professor Hack’s economic plans mathematically. Let me see now, four million times five million is twelve million, and four billion times six billion is thirteen billion, and four trillion times seven trillion is … … oh my! We shall never get to economic recovery and prosperity at that rate! However, the multiplication table doesn’t really apply. Let’s try geography. Iraq borders Pakistan, the center of the Universe was Iraq but now it’s Afghanistan, America has 57 states, Minnesota is in the tropics. No, that’s all wrong, But geography doesn’t really apply either, I’m certain! Let’s try religion. Jews were behind 9/11, Palestinians are victims, Saudi Arabia is our good friend and Islam is a great religion of peace. No, that’s all wrong too! Maybe if President Obama and Professor Hacks just start over and this time they read the directions then perhaps directly they will be able to direct us all in the right direction.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Ha….if you think companies bailed from this market under the GOP, you ain’t seen nothing yet. When unions and social programs make it too difficult to operate with profits, more and more companies are going to outsource and manufacture overseas. When corporate taxes rise, more companies will headquarter overseas. When capital gains and death taxes go up, more money will go overseas. Your side will create its own nightmare….all for fairness. Baka!
genso on February 22, 2009 at 12:02 PM
You must truely want another civil war or revolution. I’m all for middle class and upper class but I never hear about the working poor. If he raises taxes as much as Obama and co. wants they will turn this nation into one big riot zone.
Never have I ever expected this sort of thing to be done in the US. I’ve read and seen too much lately to think Obama is anything else but a lying, socialist/communist fear monger. You may not agree but you’re blinded by your ideology. I didn’t have one until I was pushed to the right by these aholes because of all the money they want to take, and the moronic crap they want to push on the american people.
What in the world would happen if taxes were raised on lower class people and not on the rich? Talk about blood being spilled. Will that ever happen? I dunno. Having said that no class whatever it makes needs more taxes right now. Our “leaders” need to tighten THEIR belts, and tighten up the nations budget. Not everything needs money spent on it. Not have the BS in that “stimulus” bill. There are too many voices at unrest. He’s going to get what’s coming to him and the congress for that matter.
You’re darn right I’m pissed. And I use to be a calm type of person. The country and world is falling down around us and our government has is a devious smile on their face while it does nothing. Or worse, help it to crumble!
roopster217 on February 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Your are correct. It is not an “income tax” refund ,it is welfare. And by the way, are you OK with illegal immigration?
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM
I’m ready. Bring it on.
apacalyps on February 22, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Bring it.
apacalyps on February 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Oh Professor, you are such a Drama Queen. I always did like that about you.
Cheshire Cat on February 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM
The extent of your ignorance and intellectual dishonesty is simply amazing. Slavery did not begin in North America nor can the experiences of Africans enslaved in North America even remotely begin to define what slavery is. Virtually every culture on earth has had its own version of slavery.
The version of slavery practiced in North America was perhaps the single most violent and repressive version of slavery ever practiced anywhere on earth. It was however not by any stretch the only version of slavery ever practiced on earth.
Slavery is defined as when one individual is forced against their will to work for another individual. The exact extent to which their freedoms were stripped from them varied from culture to culture, no two cultures practiced slavery exactly the same.
doriangrey on February 22, 2009 at 12:07 PM
As a third generation “military” I am concerned about the level of dissatisfaction (With our CinC and the current political majority) being OPENLY EXPRESSED by active and non-active members of our uniformed service. Most are not hearing about it because the MSM is not covering it. Go over to the Mil Blogs and see for yourself. This high volume of discontent is new to me…. Military members by mandate are Apolitical, however this is changing. The cultural divide between military and non-military in this country is enormous. Bigger than the cultural differences between liberal and conservative. Liberal elite’s with-in the Media, Academia, Political Majority are creating a level of frustration that is ripping this delicate mandate apart. We have taken an Oath to defend the COTUS, an Oath that we ALL take seriously. Beck is not that far off.
God Bless All of our Marines, Sailors, Soldiers and Airman. May God keep you and your families Safe.
RandyKowalski on February 22, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Socialism fosters oppression, socialism fosters servitude, socialism fosters cruelty; perhaps even more abominable is the fact that it fosters idiocy.
Tav on February 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Go over to the Mil Blogs and see for yourself.
RandyKowalski on February 22, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Which ones?
pebbles on February 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Amen. God bless our military.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Thanks for that input. I was more inclined to believe that he actually is spiritualist or has some psychic ability (I do, everybody does) and has had some revelations of some sort. That or he watches YouTube a bit too much.
I do respect and admire the way Mormons are so family-oriented, respect each other, regardless of how their religion is viewed and their concept of it is. I have welcomed them in my home as I am open to see every religion’s faith.
I am one to believe this: It doesn’t matter which religion you belong to, as long as they all point at God as their savior I have no problem. Individual and world’s salvation is what I started praying for last night.
As for Obama, there are many psychic predictions and personal beliefs out there on the Net for you to read. I feel this guy will be a 2-year president. Could be less but no more than that.
There, I said my peace. Fire away if you must.
ProudPalinFan on February 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I think all conservatives should get out of the military…its the libs country now, let them defend it…and soon it will be the RAINBOW military…
if you drop the soap in a military whatever you do, DO NOT bend over to pick it up….
right4life on February 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I saw nothing, I heard nothing, I know nothing. I was not here. I have not even got up any morning since January 20.
OberfeldwebelSchultz on February 22, 2009 at 12:15 PM
No tax cut? Really? Really?
How about a 50% tax cut for everyone? Certainly that would put enough money back in people’s pockets.
What I do know is this: if my tax rate increases, which is surely will, I will have to let some people go who rely on me for their incomes. I will no longer be able to justify keeping them.
So exactly who does a rate increase on the top bracket hurt? The working lower class. That’s the irony in all this.
pullingmyhairout on February 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Absolutely. Russia, Iran, and a few other middle East countries stage an attack on tiny Israel in the last days (Ezekiel 38 & 39). Many of these countries are already allied together.
apacalyps on February 22, 2009 at 12:22 PM
You are insightful.
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM
+1!! And Glenn Beck said that in his show a week ago or so. I wish he brings back Ted Nugent (saw his interview when at CNN). Hi-la-rious!
This is part 1 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzRVkIZFC9Y
Part 2 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-VclnZ3Iw
Part 3 of 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaQN-YoOzxw
ProudPalinFan on February 22, 2009 at 12:27 PM
Sorry this is 3 of 4, last link is 4 of 4…WORTH WATCHING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdQJsAiJw_M
ProudPalinFan on February 22, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Not to mention, corruption, complacency, laziness, Ect…..
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 12:30 PM
pebbles on February 22, 2009 at 12:14 PM
There are many…. Blackfive.com Militarypundits.com just to mane a few.
RandyKowalski on February 22, 2009 at 12:50 PM
When it comes to “end of is nigh, maybe” Beck is just a piker.
“Now that “Ponzi Pyramid of Debt and Derivatives Death” has imploded there are only two “solutions” to the devastation being wrought, neither of them good:
1. Central banks and governments attempt to “Go Weimar/Zimbabwe” and overwhelm the deflationary debt and derivatives collapse with massive spending and printing of fiat. So far, twenty trillion dollars worldwide have been flung or promised at the collapse by central banks and governments, yet the carnage continues to accelerate. The central banks and governments could possibly throw another twenty trillion (or thirty, or whatever) at the collapse, but that would surely incite a massive hyperinflationary mindset and destroy every single paper currency in the world. And then we collapse anyway.
or:
2. They can try to liquidate the tens and tens of trillions of dollars of dead, toxic instruments along with the institutions that hold them. This includes your and my bank, insurance company, pension fund, mutual fund, money market fund, and all other financial entities. This would result in a deflation that would make the “Great Depression” look like a mild recession. House prices could easily drop 90%, stock markets drop 95% (they are already halfway there at this point!) as well as our experiencing massive unemployment, bankrupticies, homelessness–you name it.
Now, I know that I have a reputation for being half-hysterical all the time, but this is the “real deal”. Even mainstream media and economists (all of whom TOTALLY missed calling this epic credit bubble and bust accurately) are now hinting to the populace that we are in unprecedented collapse and bank nationalization is “on the table”. Furthermore, the absolutely never-undertaken-before-in-the-history-of-mankind actions by the Fed, the Treasury, Congress and the Administration to try to fight the collapse–with little success–have demonstrated beyond any doubt that this situation is out of the control of the authorities to mitigage against it.
Conclusion: Get ready for much financial pain and hardship going forward. We are in the early stages of this “Great Disintegration I”. We’ll be lucky if our country survives intact (right now, four states have legislation pending to more or less secede from the Union). At best we will suffer through a protracted (measured in years or decades) “Great Depression II”, but I fear that we will rather be facing “Great Disintegration I”.
So, to the extent that you can, try to protect yourself financially…if it’s not too late. At the very least try to immediately reduce any debt, have as much cash in your hands as possible and store up non-perishable food that you and your family normally eat. At worst, if I’m wrong and we just “muddle through” with a lengthy “Great Depression II”, then at least you won’t lose anything by making these preparations.
And if I’m right, then you’ll be one of the last ones to starve to death.
Sincerely,
Ras”
KentAllard on February 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Right on the Money. Fabian socialists are winning. It’s out of print but read Blueprint for Revolution by Raymond Momboisse. It details how leftist would likely overthrow our government. It’s sounds like the DNC playbook.
I’d agree with other posters about blacks being enslaved by the government, but I believe they are far more like German Jews in the 1930’s. Forced into urban ghettos, singled out for their race, told what jobs/goals/lives they can have, all freedoms stripped by the government including guns, blamed for all social ills, and then undergo massive genocide (abortion). Now why you go back to DailyKos you left wing moonbat.
chicagojedi on February 22, 2009 at 12:51 PM
I think that someone is trying to hack this site!
Johan Klaus on February 22, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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