White House spokesman to Santelli: You don’t know what you’re talking about

posted at 3:35 pm on February 20, 2009 by Allahpundit

I’m going to put him down as a “no” on attending the Tea Party. Stick with it, as it gets snottier as he goes along.

Think Santelli will fire back on Monday? Watch the clip of him below, jacked up on this morning’s Today Show. This ain’t over.

Update: A good point from HuffPo: Why would Gibbs single out Santelli for a reply when conservative pundits have spent weeks dumping on the stimulus? Maybe it’s because of the huge play Drudge gave the story yesterday — or maybe it’s because Obama benefits from having derivatives traders seen as the face of the opposition on this issue.



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It’s funny he mentioned “twitter” comments during his response as well…

PresidenToor on February 21, 2009 at 1:19 AM

Gibbs is another guy out of his league. And he seems rather dim as well.

He fits in well with all the other clueless members in the Executive branch.

Asher on February 21, 2009 at 1:27 AM

This Gibbs tool makes Baghdad Bob look like Walter Cronkite.

Fed45 on February 21, 2009 at 2:09 AM

Anyone else notice that Shrillary Clinton is in China?

My guess is there are US concerns about the Chinese economy and their appetite for treasuries going forward.

moxie_neanderthal on February 21, 2009 at 2:14 AM

OT: The Rebel Economist has a new video.

Yakko77 on February 21, 2009 at 2:51 AM

What bothers me most are two things:

1. Gibbs pointedly saying that they don’t know where Santelli lives, or what house he lives in….. as if putting the issue out there suggestively for some slimeball in the media to track down Santelli’s home so that it will be brought to light in future media reports, and then the harrassment can start a la Joe the Plummer.

2. Brian Williams attempting to make it appear that the people who are defaulting on mortgage loans for which they normally wouldn’t have qualified for were doing so under some perceived pressures that it was patriotic to take advantage of the system during good economic conditions ….. after these same media figures spent nearly eight years downplaying the economy as greatly worse than the actual number were portraying. When it suited his argument, Williams flipped the history of GW’s years in office and portrayed the economic conditions accurately, to softpedal the fact that unqualified potential homeowners were being urged to become debt-loaded beyond their means.

What no one has said to Brian Williams yet is that during those years when Liberals were out of power, they screeched constantly about their right to voice their dissent and disagree with the President, yet now that right seems to have been abrogated when Conservatives use it.

And to turn the media pit bulls on Santelli, as Gibbs appears to have tried to do, is simply unconscionable, and the President should be called upon to directly address this apparent attempt at silencing someone in the media who actually had the guts to voice dissent on behalf of the public whose interest he is supposed to be watching out for as a “public watchdog”.

President Obama’s representatives, Gibbs being one, are accountable to him for anything they say or do on his behalf, and he is accountable to us, the voting public. If he allows his representatives to get away with harrassing people who disagree with the President’s policies, then he must answer to us with justifiable reasons, or back off. Period.

KendraWilder on February 21, 2009 at 5:01 AM

Santelli is the tip of the iceberg and the ship of fools doesn’t get it.

Done That on February 21, 2009 at 6:33 AM

Chicago. July. Let’s roll.

Venusian Visitor on February 21, 2009 at 6:46 AM

The stupidity learned in Govt. schools.

The non union construction workers that voted the Magic Negro in and pay taxes will not benefit from the Stimulus Package. The great “O” Dumbo ears slipped in a provision,that says any monies that go into construction projects form the Stimulus has to be awarded to Union Shops.
What about States Rights? States that have right to work laws?

This man needs Impeachment procedures started against him now.

Where the hell is the GOP? Where are all the Conservative lawyers on this blatant act of Pay To Play? Chi.town politics have come to Washington.

Heres how it works folks. I will take your money and give it to any Damn body I want so says the HNIC. “Head Negro in Charge”

Communism is here and it came in in a storm worse than Katrina.

Rick007 on February 21, 2009 at 7:36 AM

I think the point most people are missing, and the reason for the quick attack by the WH and the media sychophants, is that this took place in Chicago. You know, the adopted home of The One, and the City which made him famous (not competent, but famous). This is all about appearances to the WH, as is everything they do; there is no substance there. To allow a ‘neighbor’ of Obama, along with other ‘neighbors’ of Obama, to loudly say anything against him, on a cable business channel, no less, is ultra embarrassing, a real slap in the face; it so goes against the narrative we’ve been spun by Obama in his two fictional autobiographies and the Fellatio Media. Rick’s in for a hard ride. I sure hope he follows Nancy Pelosi’s advice and uses a condom. God knows where any of the people near Obama, including Obama himself, have been — and with whom.

RickZ on February 21, 2009 at 7:51 AM

Ah, the smell of Chicago….

drjohn on February 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM

And what may I ask are you sacrificing Mr. President, as you send your kids to the hoytie toytie schools in Washington DC, and sit in your 80 degree office, while telling us to turn down our thermostats,and fly all over the the Country just because you’re bored and need a boost for your narcissistic ego from all the screaming 20 somethings? You are a great example! How much more hypocritical can one get?

Susanboo on February 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Unfortunately we have almost four more years left to find out how much more hypocritical Barry can me. I think he seriously looks at his “job” as a taxpayer funded lark.

anniekc on February 21, 2009 at 9:00 AM

Anyone else notice that Shrillary Clinton is in China?

My guess is there are US concerns about the Chinese economy and their appetite for treasuries going forward.

moxie_neanderthal on February 21, 2009 at 2:14 AM

Hillary went to Secretary of State to basically buff her resume so when Obama ruins the country she can come in and promise to fix it all, after all she’s been overseas and hasn’t been aware of all of this trouble. Get it?

johnnyU on February 21, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Meanwhile…. on the flip side of the Sec. job that isnt getting done while these guys play these games, N Korea is about to shoot off some nice shiny new missles and Hillary is in F’n China probably apologizing for not having a CLinton give them anything in 8 years.

johnnyU on February 21, 2009 at 9:14 AM

I am a homeowner as described by Mr. Gibb, and I read three examples of how I can get help, and I can’t. Two take the bad loan away from FM/FM and turn it into a “clean” mortgage with a higher principle balance, and the third is a jumbo ARM. I hope that changes. There is a thing that families can do if they can’t afford where they live: move. Rent an apartment.

MarkT on February 21, 2009 at 9:30 AM

Mr. Gibbs is the one that needs to read. Read the real news (editorials and blogs such as Hot Air, Michelle Malkin, Rush, Sean, and others)that highlight what the public he serves know what the ‘Stickittous’ Bill and any other policy drawn up by the President and/or his staff will do to them.

Also, the President needs to replace Mr. Gibbs because he can not effectively communicate the message of the President, anyone else, and even his own.

MSGTAS on February 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Does it make you wonder whether the people who are in default of contractual mortgages are also in arrears with their taxes?

My guess is that these irresponsible borrowers do not have a clue about accountability and responsibility. Yet they are calling on Big Brother government and tax-supported organizations like ACORN to bail out their Fannies and Freddies. They game the system without paying into it and call all of their wants a right.

onlineanalyst on February 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Is it just me, or does Press Secretary Gibbs remind anyone else of Peter Jurasik’s ‘Sid, the Snitch’ character in the later seasons of ‘Hill Street Blues’?

Gibbs certainly seems to come off as a sleazy, oily, ignorant, arrogant, way out of his depth slime bag when he has a silly piece of paper to hide behind.

Just sayin’

Jack.

Jack Deth on February 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM

A good point from HuffPo

Comments like that are the reason I have begun to give AP’s columns a pass without reading.

Seriously, dude. Santelli is right, Gibbs is an idiot and Allahpundit… well, *sigh*. I guess he’s Michelle’s Fairness Doctrine insurance.

NTXLass on February 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM

A good point from HuffPo

Comments like that are the reason I have begun to give AP’s columns a pass without reading.

Seriously, dude. Santelli is right, Gibbs is an idiot and Allahpundit… well, *sigh*. I guess he’s Michelle’s Fairness Doctrine insurance.

NTXLass on February 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Eh? It is an interesting point, no matter where it comes from. I’m just glad that other people take the time to read crap sites like HuffPoo and then bring back the few useful tidbits.

Asher on February 21, 2009 at 10:46 AM

The Obamafia is in charge! Any Questions?

Cybergeezer on February 21, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Yes. You know, I often look at these press conferences by Gibbs, or when Obama talks, and rewrite in my mind how they could have explained themselves NICELY.

Cause you know, it’s not hard to do, if you have any sort of compelling case at all.

So now I *always* do that in my mind. I think of the answer I would give, if I were them, how how I could (or anyone could) present it pleasantly, with respect and a sincere desire to communicate.

And it’s never hard! And I don’t even agree with them!

But it’s never that. It’s always this condescending, name-calling, sneering, laughing, or angry sort of approach.

Alana on February 20, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Gibbs should go back and watch some of Mike McCurry’s news conferences. He knew how to parry President Clinton’s critics with class and with a smile on his face. So did Ari Fleischer. It is an art to use a stiletto rather than a hatchet.

rockmom on February 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM

“Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another, but let him work diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built.”

Abraham Lincoln

We will never hear Barry use that one from his “idol.”

Joe Caps on February 21, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I’m late to the party, but it seems that California, Texas, and Florida account for about 43% of the foreclosures.
http://www.responsiblelending.org/issues/mortgage/quick-references/new-foreclosures-by-state.html

Four other sunshine recreation and retirement states account for 18% more. That leaves 43 other states (or 50 using Obama math), including the rust belt and flyover country to account for the rest. Could these forclosures be for the liberal, “I want everything now” set.

Old Country Boy on February 21, 2009 at 11:40 AM

If he allows his representatives to get away with harrassing people who disagree with the President’s policies, then he must answer to us with justifiable reasons, or back off.

Shoot, Kendra, Obama does it himself!

Alana on February 21, 2009 at 11:51 AM

The states mentioned above with the highest number of foreclosures all had the real estate price bubble. Not surprising that they would have the most foreclosures as people walk away from upside down mortgages or flat out can’t pay their ARMs that have adjusted upward.

karenhasfreedom on February 21, 2009 at 12:27 PM

You don’t get the Obama/Alinsky method. The reason why they picked out Santelli is because the way to win on any issue is to:
1. Personalize it.
2. Demonize/mock the one with whom you personalize the issue.
The issue then becomes obscured and part of the character of the person whom you are attacking.

They did this with Rush last month; you’ll see this over and over again in the next 4 years.

blue13326 on February 20, 2009 at 4:09 PM

Yep.
Rick Santelli gives the Bond Market report on weekday mornings on Squawk. It is an economic principle that Bonds are sensitive to government spending, and deficits in particular. The housing plan was presented in haste and was not given the proper amount of review and analysis and this is particularly important given the incredible amount of spending going on in government. None of this bodes well for the future stability of Bonds, which is one of the few areas on our economy where people, particularly the large elderly population, have been able to preserve capital. If the Bond Market show signs of collapse, which becomes increasingly likely as our government behaves irresponsibly in matters of finance, it is all but over for this economy.
This is why they personalize it. The administration would not want people to seriously consider the subject of Bonds because it would mean the administration would need to reduce spending.

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 1:27 PM

The housing plan was presented in haste and was not given the proper amount of review and analysis

I’m editing my own post here. On the subject of how long it took to draft it, I may have gotten this bill confused with another…. So I can’t confirm it was drafted in haste, I don’t know.

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 1:34 PM

great comment on the huffington site (I’ll paraphrase it):

Was gibbs as adamant about having members of congress read the porkulus bill as he was about having Santilli print & read the housing plan?

mctowler on February 20, 2009 at 5:04 PM

+1

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 1:41 PM

And to those that think Santelli never got upset about the original bailout…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1g0OZJIdk

Move ahead to 2:10 for drama.

This is about more than just people losing their homes. This is about impulsive government spending.

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 2:04 PM

TO WHOEVER POSTED THIS: “Alan Keyes won’t let go of Obama birth-certificate Trutherism” in the Headline portion of the front page ot Hotair…
So, you don’t believe that Barry is a non-citizen while there is plenty of real evidence that he ISN’T. WHATEVER. You would throw the rest of his powerful message out based on your willful ignorance? AMAZING…or is Keyes’ religious foundation what you are objecting to?
I am not a religious person and was not a fan (or a hater) of Alan Keyes until I heard that he is litigating*, not necessarily to win but to encourage AWARENESS. If you open your eyes, you will see the truth and it will set you and this country free-again.
*Do you know that many military officers are suing Barry Soetoro too? It’s not just Bible-thumping Trutherist Keyes.

Christine on February 21, 2009 at 2:30 PM

The blame being put on bankers is wrong, I’m convinced. Banks needed to construct creative loans because nobody could afford houses at the artificially inflated prices. In many cases, the mortgage brokers and homeowners conspired together to send falsified loan applications to banks, who approved loans according to the paperwork they saw. Banks were encouraged by the government to make loans; required, in some cases, and in other cases offered easy secondary markets. For the government now to blame the banks sounds unjust.

I’m also completely unimpressed with the repeated claim, “The markets can’t do this.” That came out of progressives’ mouths the moment the first sign of trouble occurred; they were waiting for it, and it was a reflex, not an analysis. There is no analysis whatsoever behind the claim “the markets can’t do it.” That’s just a power grab, pure and simple.

philwynk on February 21, 2009 at 3:48 PM

I’m looking forward to Gibbs’ “Scott McClellan” style book after he is thrown under the bus.

poplicola on February 21, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Re:
“The housing plan was presented in haste and was not given the proper amount of review and analysis
I’m editing my own post here. On the subject of how long it took to draft it, I may have gotten this bill confused with another…. So I can’t confirm it was drafted in haste, I don’t know.

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 1:34 PM”

I’ve heard that Peolosi slipped and said that they’d been working hard on this for a YEAR. Amazing foresight, isn’t that?

poplicola on February 21, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Caffeinated coffee is forbidden now?

faraway on February 20, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Yes-here is the Obamatized/msm translation: “Obamatons, pay no attention to the ravings of the lunatic McCain-voter Santelli. He is clearly *on* something. Move along.”

So sad, they try to discredit Santelli’s viewpoint by saying “stay away from the caffeine”. Jerks.

unwashed minion on February 21, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Real Name: Barry Soetoro – legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then a citizen of Indonesia — possibly naturalized later as a U.S. citizen living in Hawaii — how much longer can you hide the documents, Barry boy??? We have people after the documents now … the reward money is on the table…

searcher484 on February 21, 2009 at 9:27 PM

“Real Name: Barry Soetoro – legally adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then a citizen of Indonesia”

His name is Obama, Mr President to you and I don’t think it is even relevent to any discussion about how inept Mr. Gibbs truly is. I have said it a thousand times, Mr. Obama is so smart, that he makes all those that work for him look like deranged confused drooling chimps. Why is it that Mr. Imus could not guage his IQ, answer: Because no human could count that high. I am at this very moment writing the Obible so that we may all worship properly. Just remember, no hard questions, only agreement and adoration for that One!

Africanus on February 21, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The NBC senior economics expert Steve Liesman should come back on and explain his bold statement that Santelli was wrong about the Plan not lowering the principal.

Santelli did read at least the summary.

As others have noted, the taxpayers cough up as much as $1000 a year for 5 years to pay down principal.

We desperately need more news people who will challenge the Obama camp’s out right lies.

Santelli did a great job.

What part did Gibbs think Santelli hadn’t read?

4thQTR on February 21, 2009 at 10:43 PM

What the government should be doing is what they claimed they were going to do from jump, buy the damn bad paper, get it valued and then begin refinancing those who can make payments. Cut the investment banks out of the process it’s not helping anything

DeathToMediaHacks on February 20,2009 at 9:15 PM

How in the hell is the government going to refinance a loan? They would have to have a whole new “department” to handle this processes which would take years to set up. This is the craziest solution I have ever heard.

By the way, most banks have plans in place to help people that are behind on their mortgages. Banks do not want people to default on their mortgages, especially now when you are only getting 50 to 80 cents on the dollar when you sell it as a REO.

Also, the reason that lax underwriting standards were allowed were because of CRA which noone, I mean noone, talks about and has not been addressed in any meaningful way as a problem that needs to be corrected. I get so mad when people say it has to do with not enough regulation, it has to do with bad regulation in place.

Sorry so long but as someone that does this for a living I am sick of people thinking this is an easy fix.

momof2 on February 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Gibbs should go back and watch some of Mike McCurry’s news conferences. He knew how to parry President Clinton’s critics with class and with a smile on his face. So did Ari Fleischer. It is an art to use a stiletto rather than a hatchet.

rockmom on February 21, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Both were very good, imo. Snow was in a separate class because of his oversized persona and wit. Dana (ah…) Perino was in a separate class because of her class, intellect, and icy yumminess.

Gibbs is so bad, he has become the news.

Jaibones on February 21, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Gibbs – that’s the ugliest f**cking tie ever seen

searcher484 on February 22, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Mr. Gibbs attack on Mr. Santelli could be another exercise in Saul’s rules for Radicals ( personalize and isolate). Or, it could be just a distraction to avoid the tougher questions from other sources. Whatever the reason, Mr. Gibbs seems to need lessons from Mr. Tony Snow on how to handle the WH press corps. Oh duh, different administration, different time, different mission…

sunshine12345 on February 22, 2009 at 1:05 AM

Anyone else notice that Shrillary Clinton is in China?

My guess is there are US concerns about the Chinese economy and their appetite for treasuries going forward.

moxie_neanderthal on February 21, 2009 at 2:14 AM

No different than having Elaine Chao as a Secretary of Labor. Both beholden to China in some form; one is just more direct.

Jaibones on February 21, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Except that Gibbs had some substance by putting Santelli in his place. Perino and Snow just were empty suits.

sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 3:35 AM

Except that Gibbs had some substance by putting Santelli in his place. Perino and Snow just were empty suits.

sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 3:35 AM

Hogwash. If that’s “substance” then we need a redefinition of matter.

rplat on February 22, 2009 at 9:36 AM

If Chris Farley were still alive, he’d have a field day playing this guy.

Dagnar on February 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I’m looking forward to Gibbs’ “Scott McClellan” style book after he is thrown under the bus.

God, I’m not. The fool can barely speak, there’s no telling how bad his writing skills will be.

anniekc on February 22, 2009 at 1:41 PM

If Chris Farley were still alive, he’d have a field day playing this guy.

Dagnar on February 22, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Santelli’s kind does make for interesting comedy.

sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Where the hell is the surprise here? A socialist acting like a socialist isn’t surprising. Gibbs is out of his league but smart enough to know it and to know that others know it. So he resorts to the smarmy effective tactics of the left.

What do socialists do? They don’t argue the point because they can’t win. They don’t use facts to shore up their position because there are none. Socialists denigrate and destroy any and every person who gets in the way of spreading their propaganda.

kooziegirl on February 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM

kooziegirl on February 22, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Well, it’s one event that business can’t make go away.

sethstorm on February 22, 2009 at 5:43 PM

That was like like listening to Vogon poetry.

I almost gnawed off my own leg to maintain my sanity.

29Victor on February 20, 2009 at 3:47 PM

LOL!

Strap yourself into your Poetry Appreciation Chairs, people! We’re gonna have to listen to this sort of tripe for many years to come.

SgtSchultz on February 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Shame, shame, shame. Weak and lame portrayal of a US citizen by the WH mouthpiece. As penance he should have to have a close encounter with Helen Thomas (caught on tape). Then and only then can he stand before us and pontificate.

Fuquay Steve on February 22, 2009 at 7:43 PM

As penance he should have to have a close encounter with Helen Thomas (caught on tape). Then and only then can he stand before us and pontificate.

Fuquay Steve on February 22, 2009 at 7:43 PM

True, but does this mean you don’t believe Gibbs “put Santelli in his place” (this according to sethstorm above, really should be named sethdrizzle). I’d love to know what “place” that would be but it’s likely past the driz’s bedtime.

Is it too late to start a Santelli for Illinois Senate campaign?

kooziegirl on February 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM

kooziegirl on February 22, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Well, he humbled the guy. Santelli thinks he and his kind are above criticism and attack. Gibbs merely wanted to just clip his wings.

sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Well, he humbled the guy. Santelli thinks he and his kind are above criticism and attack. Gibbs merely wanted to just clip his wings.

sethstorm on February 23, 2009 at 12:25 AM

“his kind”? Do you even know who Rick Santelli is for petes sake? Go back to reading your ‘victimology 101′ text and leave the adults to discuss serious issues.

kooziegirl on February 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM

3 against 1, still no contest from the lefties.

ne0365 on February 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM

There needs to be a nationwide “Tea Party”. It has to be on a Saturday or Sunday, seeing as those are the only two days us working folk have for free time.

Let’s do it!

I’m tired of being the silent majority. We are the offensive line does all the hard work, but the quarterback and runningback get all the rewards.

Let’s do it!

76United on February 23, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Worst Person of the Day?
Certainly looks like it from the way he was treated by his big-hearted, sensitive colleagues.

thegreatbeast on February 25, 2009 at 12:14 AM

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