Chris Matthews to Santelli: So, who’d you vote for?

posted at 6:35 pm on February 20, 2009 by Allahpundit

Two clips, one for dinner and one for dessert. Start from the beginning for his reply to Gibbs or skip ahead to 3:53 for his unsurprising answer to Matthews. Evidently Chris and The One are on a first-name basis now. Imagine if, say, Brit Hume had been in the habit of referring to Bush as “George.”

As for the second clip, I figure Santelli’s about three days away from a full-blown Howard Beale meltdown at this point. The more attention he gets, the more irascible he becomes, so let’s keep giving it to him. Exit question: Was Brewer being rude? Insofar as she’s hinting that Eric the trader is some kind of media whore, I’m going with yes.



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Conan on February 20, 2009 at 8:13 PM

The Politico has always been in the bag for BO.

I refuse to even read that rag.

Cody1991 on February 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM

This whole argument boils down to this: What is your highest ideal – Is it freedom or is it security?

Mine is freedom. All other things are but secondary. I will gladly give up comfort, security, or stability for freedom. I look at every action or inaction of the government and my own stances upon issue through the lens of freedom.

It has come to the point in this country that others do not feel very strongly at all about freedom. Comfort and security have moved ahead of freedom as the most important thing we want in a government. Many, and I fear most, in this country no longer hunger for or will fight for freedom.

King of the Britons on February 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Santelli’s reply to the “who’d you vote for?: question should have been,

Well, he didn’t make my leg tingle, but I voted for McCain.

rockhead on February 20, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Can someone please explain to me why liberals think all Republicans & Conservatives are rich? This puzzles me.

Ris4victory on February 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM

It comes down to the basic notion that conservatives tend to believe in principled self reliance and individual liberty. Democrats mistakenly interpret these beliefs as evidence of either gaming the system (rich and not paying taxes) or stupidity.

By contrast, the Democrat party is all about selfish, self absorbed, collective authoritarianism. Why would anyone not try and grab as much as they could from someone else unless they already had theirs?

moxie_neanderthal on February 20, 2009 at 8:27 PM

If I hear one more person accuse me or anyone else of not caring, being mean or not wanting what’s best for America because I/we are against all these bailouts and “stimulus” packages I may have to choke someone.

Racist.

edshepp on February 20, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Yeah, his head will explode.

They are baiting him.

getalife on February 20, 2009 at 8:31 PM

Brewer should have learned by now that if you act like an idiot, you’ll get treated like one.

Jaibones on February 20, 2009 at 8:32 PM

Can someone please explain to me why liberals think all Republicans & Conservatives are rich? This puzzles me.

Ris4victory on February 20, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I also don’t know why the libs think all conservatives are white. I’m neither rich nor white, but I’m about as conservative as they come!!

Callie C. on February 20, 2009 at 8:32 PM

thanks moxie –

As a proud & very un-rich uber-conservative, at the same job for 19 years now, living within my means with no handouts, I just wanted to understand why the MSM keeps calling me rich. But liberalism must actually be a mental defect b/c my mind cannot wrap around the “gimme gimme gimme” syndrome.

Ris4victory on February 20, 2009 at 8:33 PM

Cody1991 on February 20, 2009 at 8:15 PM

I know Politico is in the bag but the point of them making appearances if you see them on FOX is to give the appearance they are unbiased as they promote the website.

There is no way to even pretend that in the manner in which Simon is answering. Matthews is asking him to explain the President’s position and he doesn’t even give it the hypothetical..

“Well I think the President is trying to…”

He just says “The President is trying to..”

Like he is not even an outsider or an outsider that is declared on his Obama’s side like say Rush talking on Bush but an insider like Gibbs who is relaying the info directly.

I guess I am saying they can’t resist carrying water for Obama to the point they run right over their own aims.

The second funny thing is Matthews assumes that is how he is going to answer.

Conan on February 20, 2009 at 8:35 PM

Contessa has never recovered from being bitch-slapped by Imus.

Wade on February 20, 2009 at 8:38 PM

His response on who’d you vote for should have been; Chris, you tell me who you voted for and then I’ll tell you.

jeffersonschild on February 20, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Go figure that a gal named Contessa would be an imperious [bad word].

Hoo boy – Eric the Trader is about to get the Joe the Plumber treatment.

While Henrietta the Handout and Julio the Doofus each get a primetime hour on MSNBC.

Jim Treacher on February 20, 2009 at 8:47 PM

“Why is it the obligation of Roger Simon of the Politico to explain the President’s position is right? Does this guy work for the White House because he explaining things like “This is what the President thinks…”

Because Chrissy Matthews needs extra herd members to give the last word to elevate their “Messiah”.

Conservalicious on February 20, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Did Chris Matthews ask Roger Simon who he voted for?

Another question- does anybody know Roger Simons’s economic/financial qualifications? Does he have some special insight as to why “Barack” is right? In his bio, I see English major and Graduate studies in politics.

MayBee on February 20, 2009 at 8:59 PM

To all you Msnbc and other MSN Obama sickifences .My money that i work my A** off to make is mind not the guy down the street or the women with no house or the man who makes $35.000 a year who bought a $300.000 house with no money down.They made bad diss.I work 2 jobs and my wife works 2 also we saved for 10 years to pay 20% down on our house.I be dammed if i am going to make there payment and pay off ther bills also.This is America you have the right to try to be succesfull also the right to fail.

thmcbb on February 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Poor guy…a member of the media has a rare moment of honesty and says exactly what we are all thinking and now he’s being attacked. Freedom of speech…..unless you speak against Obama.

ashofpompeii on February 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM

As a proud & very un-rich uber-conservative, at the same job for 19 years now, living within my means with no handouts, I just wanted to understand why the MSM keeps calling me rich. But liberalism must actually be a mental defect b/c my mind cannot wrap around the “gimme gimme gimme” syndrome.

Ris4victory on February 20, 2009 at 8:33 PM

I evolved toward being more conservative, especially on the fiscal side, when I had nothing. The primary reason I did so was because I wanted the government to get out of my way as I made my way toward having something. Now that I have it, I sure don’t want to give it to anyone because the government says I should. I agree with the philosophers like Aristotle who say that property rights are the one of, if not the key foundation of all other rights.

venividivici on February 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM

Did Chris Matthews ask Roger Simon who he voted for?

It’s obvious. Matthews had to shame Santelli for departing so hideously from the NBC family.

Another question- does anybody know Roger Simons’s economic/financial qualifications? Does he have some special insight as to why “Barack” is right? In his bio, I see English major and Graduate studies in politics.

MayBee on February 20, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Once you’ve imbibed the Kool-Aid, qualifications are irrelevant.

ddrintn on February 20, 2009 at 9:06 PM

This is one of the scary things about card check legislation. Matthews asked him point blank, twice, who he voted for…and once it came out he voted “wrong” he instantly lost credibility to a large segment of the population. You know that Santori realized it too, he even felt compelled to defend himself for his vote.

Mord on February 20, 2009 at 9:06 PM

To all you Msnbc and other MSN Obama sickifences .My money that i work my A** off to make is mind not the guy down the street or the women with no house or the man who makes $35.000 a year who bought a $300.000 house with no money down.They made bad diss.I work 2 jobs and my wife works 2 also we saved for 10 years to pay 20% down on our house.I be dammed if i am going to make there payment and pay off ther bills also.This is America you have the right to try to be succesfull also the right to fail.

thmcbb on February 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM

You’re not alone. That feeling is percolating. Pretty soon, no number of MSM sycophants will be able to isolate and denigrate.

ddrintn on February 20, 2009 at 9:08 PM

What difference does it make who he voted for. I voted for Bush in 04, but I didn’t like quite a few things he did. You can still disagree with the President in this country, can’t you?

shomegirl on February 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM

This makes my blood boil. Sign me up for the tea party. Where was the outrage, Simon? I don’t know, you’re a ‘journalist,’ why didn’t you report it? Tool.

It’s always good to hear fmr. Pres. Clinton? I’m not even to dessert and I’m full.

“No, you weren’t being rude,” said the man who has been trying to bang his hot, airheaded, co-ancorette for months.

Johnson on February 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Revolution is coming. I’m starting to organize. Seriously. I’ll also be in Chicago for Santelli’s Tea Party. Imagine if a million people came out?
marklmail on February 20, 2009 at 7:03 PM

What Santelli Tea Party? Give me the when and where and I’ll be there with bells on. I am a native of this once great city. Let’s spread the word and work on that million.

tigerlily on February 20, 2009 at 9:23 PM

The problem isn’t that we just have idiots in charge, It is that we have communist idiots in charge.

TheSitRep on February 20, 2009 at 9:28 PM

WTF when tingles said, “Ooh.. Hannity and Rush.. you’re the smartest guy in that group!” He is so jealous of Rush. It’s on, Chrissy, it’s on.

Pasalubong on February 20, 2009 at 9:43 PM

when i hear “we’re all in this together”, its commune mentality as they are passing the kool aid to you.

islander98 on February 20, 2009 at 9:45 PM

I don’t think she was being rude. I think she was trying to find out how others are thinking about this.

mikeyboss on February 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM

I will not sit easy till a mainstream reporter such as the one I saw in the video clip up there yells infamously a great FU to the ever magnificent Chris Matthews up there. As wonderful as that clip was I still won’t give up or balk down. Chris Matthews should eat camel shit.

Coronagold on February 20, 2009 at 9:48 PM

“Every bailout requires rewarding bad behavior.”

The kernel thought from Politico’s mouth.

And she was being rude.

unclesmrgol on February 20, 2009 at 9:50 PM

It has come to the point in this country that others do not feel very strongly at all about freedom. Comfort and security have moved ahead of freedom as the most important thing we want in a government. Many, and I fear most, in this country no longer hunger for or will fight for freedom.

King of the Britons on February 20, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Brother, I am standing right with you. Keep your powder dry.

AZ_Redneck on February 20, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Did you ever notice that during Bush’s 8 years, he never responded to attacks from Olbermann or Matthews any private citizen?

GarandFan on February 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM

As for the second clip, I figure Santelli’s about three days away from a full-blown Howard Beale meltdown at this point.

AP, aren’t you of Italian descent? I thought all you guys were a little, um, extroverted. /racist

baldilocks on February 20, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Santeilli is going to be the Paul Revere of the New Revolution

notagool on February 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM

I used to secure foreclosed houses for various lenders. I was also the lender’s rep when an eviction was served. An eviction is a legal process that takes quite a bit of time in many cases. The lendees have numerous notices prior to the Deputy knocking on the door to serve the papers.

I did this work from 1998 to 2005. I worked the I-64 corridor from west of Richmond, Va. to Va. Beach. During those years, I could have done evictions every day if I’d have wanted to. Some days in Richmond we’d have a high speed caravan from one house to the next to get them all in during daylight.

I’d estimate that 90% were already vacant and most of the personal property had been removed. The ones that were still occupied had to have all personal items taken off the property. If you live in a city, that means the strip f grass between the sidewalk and street. It’s there for the owner to do with as they wish. Once we moved everything out and changed the lock, the Deputy would leave. Many times, right after he left, the owner would bring a U-Haul and load it all up. They used us as a free moving service. Many of the FHA loan folks had been through more than one eviction.

What did these people do after they were evicted? Mostly they went to a rental property. Sometimes they had relatives put them up. I never had one evictee get mad at me or my crew personally. However, there were more than a couple where I was glad the Deputy was there.

My point is that this is nothing new. I hear the news stories about evictions being up a certain percentage number from previous months/years and wonder what the base number was.

One other bad thing I saw quite a bit. In Virginia a renter can be evicted if their landlord defaults. Renter is doing everything right and gets put to the curb. That bothered me.

TugboatPhil on February 20, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Zero down “homeowners” actually have it made in the shade. In reality, they are endemnified renters. This privileged type “renter,” with deed in hand, can leverage that property – use it as collateral for car loans, extended credit, or extra cash from a second mortgage.

The party ends when/if the property fails to increase in value. With no down payment at risk, no “skin in the game,” said homeowner just pops the keys in the mail and becomes an ordinary renter again. However, this time, he keeps the car, the big screen tv, the credit cards, the computer, the fancy cell phone, and the iPod.

This homeowner hasn’t lost a nickel. He’s actually moving from place to place enriching himself materially as he goes. And we have to bail this guy out? I have zero compassion for him. THIS is greed on steroids.

This is at least part of what Santelli is enraged about.

marybel on February 20, 2009 at 10:07 PM

I don’t think she was being rude. I think she was trying to find out how others are thinking about this.

I thought she was saying, “So do you think you are a big guy, now?” to the trader. Maybe that isn’t how she meant it, but that’s how it read.

Contessa Brewer is Charlotte from Sex and the City.

MayBee on February 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM

I don’t think she was being rude. I think she was trying to find out how others are thinking about this.

mikeyboss on February 20, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Watch it again. In the crosstalk you might have missed before Santelli says to Eric they are being rude to him she says “so does this make him popular at home in the hood?”

“Is he going to get a YouTube channel out of this?”

Where are these insiduations coming from?

She is trying to call it all a set-up for the audience because the damage for MSNBC to their viewers is that it was spontaneous!

I bet if you knew what Brewer was told or was talking about on the set the people there at MSNBC were probably spectulating that the previous segment about the tea party was planned and a set up and Frau Brewer decided to see if she could expose Eric as a plant.

Fortunately Santelli calls her rude and Eric roars back with another volley.

Watch her body language at the end and her co host trying to save her. Burned. Worth watching twice.

Conan on February 20, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Matthews & the babe were both rude. Tingle-leg needs to get slapped up along side of his deranged brain box. He really let it go when he call the Pres Barack! What a turd matthews is.

wepeople on February 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Worst person in the world nominee? Or will it be cheney again?

Fuquay Steve on February 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Hey Gibbs Have you read the plan, Has the president, Who wrote the plan. I think this is all a crock of dribble.

Crissy is an a$$hole he needs to find a new line of work.

Brat4life on February 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM

What Rick wished he could have said…

Matthews: should we just allow all of these people to foreclose?

Rick: Hell yes!

jbh45 on February 20, 2009 at 11:07 PM

What Rick wished he could have said 2…

Babe: Rude? I wasn’t being rude…

Rick: Hell yes you were beahtch!

jbh45 on February 20, 2009 at 11:10 PM

These people on the air are clueless. The only way for the economy to get better is for it to get worse. throw the bums on the street, forclose on the properties lower the prices for the homes and let the responsible people that have saved their money buy the vacated homes. Once people that can afford the homes move in the property values will start going back up.

We are dealing with a basic law of economics. Supply and demand. The intersection of supply and demand gives you a price point. Too much supply and low demand gives you cheaper prices. Too much demand and too little supply gives you higher prices.

The problem is no one wants to lower prices to stimulate demand. they want to artifically keep prices high and stimulate demand by pumping money into the system.

Let nature take its course, home prices must fall before demand picks up. car prices must fall before demand picks up, gasoline prices must fall before demand picks up. As demand comes back online from the cheaper prices companies will start hiring again, people will start working again and prices will go up as more people have more wealth and demand goes up.

simple but it requires the pain of wealth destruction for the elites and as long as the elites control the printing press they will never willingly let their fortunes decline so we will all end up in the poor house as prices continue to stay above the demand point and people continue to lose their jobs

unseen on February 20, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Haven’t seen this noted yet, but why did Chrissy bring up the “prodigal son?” This parable is intended by Jesus to show the generosity and forgiveness of God. It isn’t intended to provide a model for governmental and economic policy. God forgives, and human fathers can distribute their private wealth as they see fit. Government has an obligation to fairness and the evenhanded application of law, including mortgage law.

And, despite the worship in the media, Obama is not God.

cs89 on February 21, 2009 at 12:16 AM

I think Obama overestimates his own awesomeness. There is going to come a point when taxpayers reach a critical mass of outrage at these policies. You can feel it slowly building. Consider that in just four weeks in office we have:
1) Porkulus. Almost a trillion dollars of waste, political payoffs and unfocused spending. The average taxpayer sees maybe an extra $8 to $10 a week in their paycheck.
2) TARP II. We don’t know yet exactly what this will cost us but it will be huge. And they are almost certainly going to request a lot more than was originally approved.
3) Mortgage modifications. $275 billion to (in the words of Rick Santelli) pay for your neighbor’s mortgage.
4) The automakers are about to come back for round 2.

What is the unmistakable message of the last 4 weeks? It’s that the American taxpayer is expected to keep his (or her) head down, keep working and keep forking the money over. And, if you complain, you are engaging in petty politics or (like Matthews tried to do to Santelli) you are a hyperpartisan who is to be dismissed or you are a heartless bastard who wants to see people tossed out into the street.

You can only play the American people for suckers for so long, though. The media might be able to run cover for him for a while but it won’t last. The funny thing is that I figured Obama and the Democrats would overreach eventually, I just didn’t think it would happen so soon. I’m not even a radical or anything, but count me in on Tea Party 2.0

And, of course, to add to my frustration I live in California and got bent over again yesterday by the state. California is an absolute joke. If you don’t live here, consider yourself very, very lucky. I’m afraid the rest of the country is headed down the same path.

JohnInCA on February 21, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Oh how I despise Tingly.

Santelli hit the nail on the head- set aside the political left vs. right argument and who’s entitled to what or not…

What this boils down to is these people signed contracts to pay for something and are breaking the contract… period. Is our government now taking the position that contracts are no longer valid if the signer changes their mind or is no longer inclined to meet their obligations?

If the contract is illegal then take it to court, prosecute the person or entity responsible for an illegal contract and have them pay damages to the individual. If the contract is legal, the government has no role other than to stay the hell out of it.

This is a simple issue. Any other position invalidates all contracts ever written for anything. Try doing any type of business anywhere when contracts are no longer valid. Everyone loses, but the consumer loses twice- first when they no longer have their benefits from a contract, second when the businesses they depend on (and not just the evil ones) collapse.

Damiano on February 21, 2009 at 1:27 AM

That decaf joke by Gibbs is so lame. It was repeated by NBC panel yesterday. This is like Jesus Christ is a Community Organizer, Pontius Pilate is a governor thing again.

I don’t know whih rule this is in Alinsky’s playbook but they are using it very often. If somebody criticises you, come up with a lame crack and repeat it ad nauseam each time, as if it’s original. Lame!

promachus on February 21, 2009 at 1:37 AM

Palin/Eric the Trader 2012. Man, Palin’s 2012 administration keeps building itself.

Joe the Plumber, Tito the Builder, Eric the Trader, Rick the Revolutionary.

I think Eric is awesome and muh more articulate than Rick himself and he looks great. When is Fox Business snapping him up?

promachus on February 21, 2009 at 1:45 AM

Santelli’s reply to the “who’d you vote for?: question should have been,

Well, he didn’t make my leg tingle, but I voted for McCain.

rockhead on February 20, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Actually, my response would have been, “What the hell does that have to do with anything?” When Matthews asked that question, I thought to myself, “where did that come from?” He was flailing at that point and Santelli should have called him on it.

Matthews is a poor, poor excuse for a journalist. You have to feel sorry for him sometimes. He’s usually in a situation where he has to argue from a poorly thought-out and unreasoned position, and when his guest is on the ball (like Santelli was here) he ends up getting slapped down every time.

UltimateBob on February 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM

T-party , is it hip hop enough for the new GOP.

the_nile on February 21, 2009 at 4:15 AM

That’s too rich — Chris freakin’ Matthews of all people suggesting that someone’s objectivity and journalistic integrity have been undermined by their political preferences.

While it’s hard to directly compare derangement with insanity, it’s arguable that Matthews’ credibility and integrity have at this point slipped below even Olbermann’s.

What a megadouche.

Blacksheep on February 21, 2009 at 6:48 AM

Palin/Eric the Trader 2012. Man, Palin’s 2012 administration keeps building itself.

Joe the Plumber, Tito the Builder, Eric the Trader, Rick the Revolutionary.

I think Eric is awesome and muh more articulate than Rick himself and he looks great. When is Fox Business snapping him up?

promachus on February 21, 2009 at 1:45 AM

The Patrick Henry Society’s initial members. Well done. We are all going to be given an opportunity to join this club.

Fuquay Steve on February 21, 2009 at 6:59 AM

I wish Santelli had been given time to finish the “401k question” with Matthews. Astonishingly, Matthews appeared on the verge of suggesting the government needs to make everyone’s 401k account whole again. Please, please please let some guest next week follow up with Chris on this question.

I thought Santelli did a fabulous job here. The bedrock question before us is CONTRACT LAW. If the gov’t can void terms arbitrarily, what does “contract” mean?

Lastly, Chris’ use of the Prodigal Son bothered me to no end. The father in the parable was dispensing HIS OWN charity toward his son. He did not go to his neighbors and demand THEY pay for the party (and then crow about his compassion as if he’d paid for it).

jeanneb on February 21, 2009 at 7:27 AM

Santelli did a nice job of holding his own against Matthews. There were some nice sparks. Then it turns into an old lady coffee klatch when Matthews and Simon started in with their Liberal claptrap.

NBC definitely has a problem on its hands. Don’t be surprised if Santelli ends up on Fox News with a show of his own. He’d be ratings gold.

EMD on February 21, 2009 at 7:30 AM

“We’re all in this together” it’s good to know that he speaks for people not yet born by saddling them with huge amounts of debt and diminishing liberty. Thanks, Barak.

Cindy Munford on February 21, 2009 at 7:43 AM

Joe the Plumber, Rick the stock broker, Sarah the hockey mom, Ortiz the builder. The list is growing and I am waiting to see how long before Rick gets the same treatment as they all did. i.e., having all of the tiny little details of his personal life made public by those watchdogs in the press who are just looking out for us.

Just A Grunt on February 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Matthews: (paraphrase) Who’s responsible the huckster or the deadbeat. Is it the fault of the person who borrowing the money or the person trying to rip them off by loaning them the money?

Those bankers must criminal masterminds. Their cunning is truly legendary. They’re trying to make money by writing loans to people unable to pay them back! Damn capitalist!!

PackerBronco on February 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM

When Matthews asked Santelli who he voted for, Santellia should have responded: “I’ll tell you, if you tell me.” and when Matthews demurred he should have said, “well then, shut the **** up.”

PackerBronco on February 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM

If the contract is illegal then take it to court, prosecute the person or entity responsible for an illegal contract and have them pay damages to the individual. If the contract is legal, the government has no role other than to stay the hell out of it.

Damiano on February 21, 2009 at 1:27 AM

Spot on. Spot on.

PackerBronco on February 21, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Chrissy got his a$$ handed to them. Chrissy is so full of red herrings and straw men. But that’s just politics, Chrissy-style…

eanax on February 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Contessa Brewer — Anchor with an agenda.

I know, I know. What a shock!!!

eanax on February 21, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Wow. Everyone on those clips except Rick and Eric are assholes. I mean – overt, obnoxious, not hearing a word Rick is saying, assholes. Charity with other people’s money is the “In” thing with the “O” crowd and the rest of us are not cool. Our job is to earn the money. Assholes get to spend it. I understand now.

BrideOfRove on February 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM

promachus on February 21, 2009 at 1:37 AM

Rule 12.

I’m thinking we on the conservative side need to start using the same playbook.

opusrex on February 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM

In 2006, with a household income of about $35k a year, I bought my first house at the age of 44, for about $104k. It was a 50-year-old house, about 2k sq ft. Monthly payments are about $850. The interest rate was about 6.125% IIRC.
The 16th of this month, I missed a payment for the first time.
Last year, when the company I worked for (as a delivery dispatcher) went out of business (partly thanks to gas prices), my household income dropped to $14k a year.
It doesn’t matter if they give me a lower interest rate. The problem isn’t what I was paying in interest, it’s my lack of income. If/when I get a job paying what my old job paid, I’ll be able to afford the payments I was making before.

Am I a bad person or a deadbeat because I wanted a house in my middle age? Am I a bad person or a deadbeat because I didn’t anticipate my employer making bad decisions, or the price of gas tripling in a matter of months? I hold a definite responsibility for my current situation, I’ve made some bad decisions, but I don’t believe buying a home was one of them.

I feel bad about missing that payment. But what isn’t being said in all of this is that a lot of those ‘deadbeats’ people complain about didn’t buy the home as I did, to live in. They bought it to “flip it”, and make a profit on the rising market. That’s where I would bet the vast majority of these ‘toxic assets’ are coming from.

I’m in a tight spot right now, with any opportunity to climb out of it dwindling by the day. But, if I ever do make it back out, I’m determined to stick it to anyone who lumps me with those house flippers.

I’m angered at being identified as a bad person because I had the gall to pursue the American dream.

I don’t know how to stimulate the economy. But I do know that what is needed is to get companies *hiring* people again. I don’t want the government to hand me a fish, I want them to get the fishmarket to hire me.

I apologize for my rant.

Gully Foyle on February 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Gully Foyle on

February 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Do you go to church? Let’s get through this situation without undermining the fabric that defines us.

clorensen on February 21, 2009 at 2:13 PM

What was Matthews point about who he voted for?

Did people who voted FOR Obama get some “Special Memo” with real details the rest of us haven’t gotten?

DSchoen on February 21, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Gully Foyle on February 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I’m sorry to read about your situation. And I’d like to be able to help honest homeowners who are in trouble and I understand that there are many people who are in that situation. I just don’t think government spending is going to solve the problem, and it could create new ones for the economy.
I do think your attitude is a healthy one, regarding enabling the fishmarket to hire you. I hope things work out for you soon.

tartan on February 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Rick held his ground well. Mathews could only respond to Rick’s “contract” argument with his usual smirky facial gymnastics.

diogenes on February 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM

Gully Foyle
“I don’t know how to stimulate the economy”

Uhm, buy spending money? Ya know that thing the Dems ridiculed Bush about for the last 2 years..

Remember after 9/11 and the Prez said go shopping?
Bingo! That along with tax cuts IS what got us out of the Dot com recession and prevented a 9/11 depression.
Seriously, who doesn’t know this?

“But I do know that what is needed is to get companies *hiring* people again”

Same as above, Companies more people when they need more people to meet their needs.

“I don’t want the government to hand me a fish, I want them to get the fishmarket to hire me.”

I want them to get the fishmarket to hire me

You want the government to “force” a privet fish market to hire you, regardless if anyone is actually buying fish?

DSchoen on February 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM

When Chris asked Santelli who he voted for he should have responded with “Who did you vote for?” Then Chris further tried to descredit him by lumping him in with Rush and Hannity. This guy really is a tool. If you are going to be interviewed by Matthews and you are not a leftist hack, you really need to come prepared and fight back with truth and conviction.

SGinNC on February 21, 2009 at 3:33 PM

Lastly, Chris’ use of the Prodigal Son bothered me to no end. The father in the parable was dispensing HIS OWN charity toward his son. He did not go to his neighbors and demand THEY pay for the party (and then crow about his compassion as if he’d paid for it).
jeanneb on February 21, 2009 at 7:27 AM

During the campiagn Obama used the bibilical “I am my brother’s keeper”

Well I am sure many of us would disagree with this and the trap is we don’t consider everyone in the country, over who we don’t by law have any control, as someone that is entitled to our unconditional charity and love.

The idea that complete strangers whom we never met are in the same category as a son whom we have raised and so take some responsibility for their future is a terrible comparison but convienant for liberals.

The debate is where does your personal responsiblity end and society’s charity begin?

Can you say Moral Hazard?

Conan on February 21, 2009 at 4:22 PM

“Chrissy”, what a worthless jerk to put it mildly. He should dress up in a cheerleader outfit instead of a suit. If I was M Obama I would make sure that “Chrissy” doesn’t get too close to BO since he excites him so much and they are now on a first name basis.

hillbilly on February 21, 2009 at 4:24 PM

“And I’d like to be able to help honest homeowners who are in trouble and I understand that there are many people who are in that situation” -tartan on February 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Thanks, I’m not looking for help, I’m just angry. I’ll get myself out of this somehow. I’m aggravated at being guilty-by-association.

“Remember after 9/11 and the Prez said go shopping?
Bingo! That along with tax cuts IS what got us out of the Dot com recession and prevented a 9/11 depression”

““I want them to get the fishmarket to hire me”

You want the government to “force” a privet fish market to hire you, regardless if anyone is actually buying fish?
DSchoen on February 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM

Yes, but the stock market only fell about 500 points then. I suppose I should have said, “I don’t know how the *government* can stimulate the economy.”

No, I wasn’t think of government coercion so much as government encouragement. Tax breaks for new hires, for example. Low-interest, government-backed small business loans for startups who qualify financially.

Yeah, I went shopping, which helped us get out of the last two recessions, and apparently increased the level of individual debt in the country.

Gully Foyle on February 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

“As for the second clip, I figure Santelli’s about three days away from a full-blown Howard Beale meltdown at this point. The more attention he gets, the more irascible he becomes, so let’s keep giving it to him.”

WTF? The guy is doing a important job. I hope he calms down and doesn’t lose it.

davod on February 21, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Sure looked like “Chrissy” was at a loss for words during the exchange. He should have to remind his “limited” audience all the time about the “tingling he feels for the big O” so they all know how objective he is with his comments. Physically unable to attend the TEA PARTY but I will contribute any way I can. Just hope that it catches on real good and the numbers multiply geometrically. Rick, the best performance on TV I have ever seen. Finally, someone telling it like it is.

hillbilly on February 21, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Note how Matthews and his ilk conveniently ignore the fact much of this was brought about by the housing/credit crisis with minimal congressional oversight of Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac despite protest from GOP lawmakers in 2004.

Whatever Chris. You’re a shill and a wimp.

Black Adam on February 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM

The thing about MSNBC and the target audience they’ve been chasing for the past five years is not only do they hate George W. Bush, Republicans and conservatives in general, they also hate capitalism.

The thing about CNBC is, it’s a business channel, and it’s going to fast lose it’s viewers and then advertisers if it’s ideologically redesigned into a business channel that hates capitalism.

So people like Matthews can rail at people like Santelli, but right now CNBC is the No. 1 business channel, ahead of Fox Business News. If the NBC brass tries to remake CNBC into a business version of the Matthews-Olbermann-Madow-Shuster network, they will lose their ratings and their ad revenue. We’ll see in the upcoming weeks how important that is to Jeff Immelt and his underlings.

jon1979 on February 21, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Rick Santelli is quite the man! CNBC has Rick’s back if the MSM and the White House try to take him out. The White House would be wise to avoid a war with CNBC during this time of economic crisis (who knows? – Obama’s team keeps making mistake after mistake). I bet the ratings for CNBC have really picked up. I started watching them again after Rick spoke the truth about Obama’s redistribution policies. Go Rick!!!

sarahpalinfan99 on February 22, 2009 at 4:03 AM

“UltimateBob

Matthews is a poor, poor excuse for a journalist.”

True, but he’s an excellent assistant for the Tingler.

Rumor is The Tingly Bobblehead will be doing infomercials for kneepads soon.

DSchoen on February 22, 2009 at 4:04 PM

CNBC, NBC, MSNBC should all be renamed

CKNEEPAD, KNEEPAD and MSKNEEPAD

DSchoen on February 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM

2:39 Matthews: “over two million people out there are facing disclosure..”
bwahaha
Ummm Chris, that’s FORECLOSURE. Dumbass.
jbtripp
Uhmm jbtripp perhaps he wasn’t misstating, perhaps he knows how many are on the “Enemy list” like JTP

“I haven’t read all the comments yet, but I wonder when we’ll see all of Eric the Trader’s financial and personal info splashed on national tv?
4shoes”

see what I mean?

DSchoen on February 22, 2009 at 5:34 PM

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