and actually, as dave rywal well knows, it’s a play on the famous bushism, not an ebonics reference.

No, I don’t think Rywall knew that, but yes, you’re correct that it was a goof on Bush, not ebonics.

Many, many thanks to everyone in this thread who embarrassed the site with their very “nuanced” views on race. Patriot1, eplain, and raybojabo are all banned and a bunch of others are on thin ice. To the people who called them out: Can I ask you to please e-mail us at the tips address the next time you see something like this? Ed and I don’t follow most comment threads. It’s hard to do so when they’re all hitting triple digits these days.

Apologies to all for the contributions of the lesser lights among HA’s readership. Comments are now closed.

Esthier on February 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM

and actually, as dave rywal well knows, it’s a play on the famous bushism, not an ebonics reference.

but until ap does the right thing in the midst of this sewer, i don’t feel like doing the “which side has the most racism” crap.

patriot1 on February 19, 2009 at 9:47 PM

how did your account get banned at stormfront?

so, the most eggregious of the lot was clearly a troll.

Anyone want to bet that people like raybojabo are Mobies who just registered yesterday?

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 19, 2009 at 4:49 PM

some.
patriot1, for instance. you can see in the other two threads he commented on since registering that he’s baiting and probing the ethical boundaries of the other commenters in a way that starkly contrasts what he wrote in this thread.

eg. 1

eg. 2

and then there’s obvious trolling:

eg. 3

eg. 4

so, yea. some.

some others contributing to the awfullness are long-standing posters.

and some others, well. some of them aren’t trolls or mobeys. they’re expressing their actual beliefs. remember, this was the white nationalists’ whole “strategy” for the obama years – to “radicalize” susceptible whites. and so a few of them are clearly here doing just that.

the question is whether they’re going to be made to feel unwelcome. sadly, i haven’t seen that they will be.

but i wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just a big post-open-reg ban-trap thread. go to it, AP. seeing csdevin go would be justice deferred, but justice all the same.

by the way, i’d love to see a venn diagram mapping the suburban race-warriors with the palinite populist socons.

macblanegirl on February 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM

You didn’t say that specifically, but you did say this:

But when race is the first thing that comes to your mind, I think you risk believing that certain behaviors are endemic to certain races and that can be dangerous.

I simply applied your vague suggestion to the discussion at hand…….

I think you risk believing that certain behaviors riots at bball games are endemic to certain races blacks and that can be dangerous.

Like I said, most of us are completely capable of recognizing that riots at black bball games is very common and we can still not go to the extent you say we are in danger of. If someone here had actually SAID “all blacks riot” then your point could be made rationally. But no one has in this thread nor in the last 3 years on HA. This is the reason why I questioned you making that comment. That idea had to come from within you and not anyone on this thread. So, I wonder if you are the person with the issues and you are projecting them onto others.

Germany: some politicians want to abandon marks on exams. Yes, that’s right, no more As, or Bs or Cs, etc. Some also want to ban the rule of having to repeat a year when you fail in a subject. Also, violence in German schools (usually in those that have been “culturally enriched”, i.e. have a very high amount of immigrants from certain “cultures” (no, not Chinese or Vietnamese, who actually manage to get more children into universities than even the Germans themselves, but rather from the “pan-islamic terror sphere”)) is rising. Not to forget that the schools in Germany drill leftist ideas into the children.

Austria: same thing.

Hooray for the European school system.

That has nothing to do with their race, but there’s no reason to pretend it isn’t low class just because they’re black either.

Esthier on February 19, 2009 at 6:06 PM

It has to do with their culture and black leadership see skin color and culture as interchangeable. Ergo, by their own words they are condemned.

When black leadership and liberals tell blacks that their identity is to others of the same skin color, you start their communities down the slippery slope of excusing all abhorrent behavior for the sake of “brotherhood”. This creates self loathing and is the genesis of blacks killing each other off and destroying their own communities. It breaks my heart, but it is the truth. Sadly, because I’m conservative, the help I can give an enslaved person is largely ignored.

And then we have “compassionate” so-called “conservatives” who bow under the pressure of political correctness and accuse real conservatives of racism.

csdeven on February 19, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Ask yourself why you didn’t pay more attention in class when reading comprehension was being taught.

proud rabid Fredhead loon

macblanegirl on February 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Ask yourself WHY you felt the need to suggest that, just because someone points out that lots of riots break out at bball games where blacks are involved, those persons are in danger of accusing every black that ever plays bball of being involved in a riot.

It’s PC garbage talk.

Do us all a favor and hold your breath until it happens.

csdeven on February 19, 2009 at 6:10 PM

OK, supporting the racist. Whatever makes you happy. I don’t give a damn personally.

I have faith that they’ll ban this person, and there’s no reason for you to assume otherwise.

Esthier on February 19, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Do us all a favor and hold your breath until it happens.

I know words mean something, but you keep insisting on making them mean what you want instead of what I said, so whatever. With the aggressive way you’re coming across, I think you’re projecting about the intimidation, but trust me after 22 years on the south & west sides of Chicago, I’ve been up against much worse.

signed,
proud rabid Fredhead loon.

“Is our children learning” is an incredibly ignorant and offensive quote to attach to this story. Hotair should take the high road and remove it. Or stay in the Fox news gutter and leave it. Your choice, Hotait.

Dave Rywall on February 19, 2009 at 7:54 AM

OK, now that’s just stupid. This happened at a school. It’s not unfair to make the claim that the education of the children who go to school at a place that can turn into a riot that quickly just might suffer.

What those people did is low class. That has nothing to do with their race, but there’s no reason to pretend it isn’t low class just because they’re black either.

Not sure why his kind is welcome here.

Dave Rywall on February 19, 2009 at 3:12 PM

It’s not. AP and Ed ban people over comments like that, but open registration tends to bring people like this out. I have faith that they’ll ban this person, and there’s no reason for you to assume otherwise.

macblanegirl on February 19, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Words mean things and you engaged in pc intimidation tactics. Deal with it. And yeah, your responses are what I’d expect from a rabid Fredhead loon.

csdeven on February 19, 2009 at 2:56 PM

Sigh. Since you seem to be so sure you know what I mean better than I do myself, I will leave you to your own devices. It’s not worth the time to restate it again. But, I should have known better than to talk to a Fred Thompson hater in the first place.