Report: Hitchens beaten by pro-Syrian thugs in Beirut? Update: “I was on the ground and getting it in the head”
posted at 4:54 pm on February 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Look on the bright side: This’ll make for one hell of a Slate column once he gets back.
I can only assume they didn’t recognize him, as the opportunity to scalp one of the world’s foremost atheists surely would have been irresistible.
I dont know if you find this as news worthy or not, but Christopher Hitchens is currently in Beirut sponsored by the same group that owns that crap NOW Lebanon. He got in a few nights ago and surprisingly went out drinking. On his way out of the bar he saw an SSNP poster and wrote on it “Fuck the SSNP”. There just happened to be some SSNP thugs near by–most likely asking people for their ID, and most likely to no avail–and saw him write on the poster and kicked his ass. He is still walking with a limp.
Abu Muqawama says he’s confirmed the story. The SSNP is, of course, a Hezbollah ally that advocates a Syrian anschluss of Lebanon (and Israel, natch). Consider Hitch a minor martyr to the cause of the Cedar Revolution here. Exit question one: More or less unpleasant than being waterboarded? Exit question two: Er, isn’t Ace there with him? Has anyone heard from Ace recently?
Update: Belated exit question three: Is it time for me to organize a mighty atheist army and lead it on a march to Damascus for justice? Yes.
Update: Forbes says Totten was in the mix.
But later that night, three of our “scoop” brigade–Jonathan Foreman, Michael Totten and Christopher Hitchens–got involved in a street brawl with some thugs of a Syria-loving skinhead party called the SNPN after Hitchens rather gallantly insulted their swastika flag. On our way to a meeting with Minister of State Nissib Lahoud, Hitchens showed me the gashed knuckles and bruises suffered during the punch up. The attackers had apparently come out of nowhere on posh Hamda Street, where they had gone to buy shoes. “I was on the ground,” Hitchens said, “and getting it in the head.” It was a miracle they didn’t pull Kalashnikovs.
Note: I changed the headline to reflect that the attackers were pro-Syrian, but not necessarily Syrian in origin.
Update: Ace sets the record straight.
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Hmmmm, I too must be nuts then. Don’t think it would hold up in court though, should I need to use it as an excuse some day.
Buy Danish on February 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Stop it you two…you’re givin’ us Montana folks a bad image. …and if youse says one more bad ‘ting ’bout Butte, I’m gonna kick your ass. Go Diggers!
Wyznowski on February 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Verdict first, evidence later. Off with his head!
Cheshire Cat on February 18, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Wow. Sorry, massa’. I thought I was in America. Land of the free, home of the brave.
Oh, wait, Liberty is dead.
The “smart ones” like you have taken ovah’, do our talkin’ for us.
Thank you, massa’, for setting me straight.
Now, keep opening your mouth and showing just how stupid you really are, please.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I’ve nothing against social conservatives or religious people- however they can (and here on HA sometimes do) take it too far. Some here on HA would have you believe that athiests (of which I am not) are by definition evil, and that it’s impossible to be conservative without holding the same concern for social issues or religion that they do.
There’s more to the conservative movement than religion, abortion and gay marriage- a lot more. Not everyone gets that though.
Hollowpoint on February 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM
I listed things that are happening in this world, at this moment. They’ve all been covered at this site and others.
Failure to detect sarcasm.
You want my address so you can come beat me up, internet tough guy?
Not partaking in the “AP is not a conservative/is a fence-sitter/is a heathen/smears Sarah Palin/posts polls we don’t like/etc” horsecrap “kissing up” to AP.
I’ve tangled with your cretinous little puss before. Please, go drink the stuff in the bottle marked “drain cleaner”.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM
So, I go and give Hitchens a thumbs up for standing up to the neo-fascist thugs and think nothing more of it. Then I find out that there is SUPPORT for the people who BEAT HIM UP.
What the hell is going on here? I like Hitchens because he gets in your face and says what he thinks is right. Here, he unequivocally did something that is right and worthy of praise and far too many disapprove.
To say this is unfortunate is an understatement.
Krydor on February 18, 2009 at 8:32 PM
…which you haven’t backed up with links once. Why?
It’s not true. Move on, jackass.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM
How do you know? Prove it.
You’re a wound up, cranked up mental patient who probably repeats your shtick on several different internet forums and I’m probably just giving you what you crave by even responding to you. You’re “done with me”? Wow, I’m so impressed with your chat board swagger. You’re probably about 4 feet, 11 inches high.
Charles…Is that you?
Django on February 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Oh, please invoke your first amendment rights on a private website. I love it when numbsticks like you do that.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Here, lemme fix that for ya:
You’re welcome.
Montana on February 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM
They seem to prefer a heavily moderated and policed site to a more open commenting format such as the one here at HotAir.
I (often) disagree with things that AP, Ed and posters here say and I’m sure they disagree with me at times as well (if they even deign to notice me). One of the things I like best about HotAir is that people only get banned for truly atrocious comments and not for having a different opinion from the host. It has allowed HA to have extremely diverse (on the Conservative side of the political sphere) discussions and I think the site is richer for it. Additionally, it reflects well on Allah and Ed that they do not ban people that annoy (and even insult them).
I’m happy there is such diversity available on the blogosphere that those that prefer to have the conversation limited and policed can go to LGF and those that prefer to have it open (even if that means it takes turns you’d rather it didn’t) can come here to HA.
JadeNYU on February 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Is there a full moon tonight?
Django on February 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM
If at first you don’t succeed destroy all evidence that you ever tried.
Murphy9 on February 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Sorry, I’m for free expression unless it provokes/prompts immediate violence.
Let’s not forget slogans like, “Give me Liberty, or give me death.” Walkin’ around in 1780-Britain with something like that would probably get your head knocked off.
That would be why so many here died (apparently wasted lives since Liberty is now dead), so that there would be opportunity to assuage others to a belief system, good or bad.
Does nazism suck? Yeah. Is it evil? Certainly. Should it be confronted? Definitely.
But don’t whine-bag about someone defending the means of their expression, anymore than you would for someone burning Hitchen’s books.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM
It’s a red letter day!: I agree with Hollowpoint.
Buy Danish on February 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM
That’s at least half the fun. I think it’s the only reason Madison even comes here.
If we were also in 1929? Yeah, probably.
Time to pull out the everclear.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Hil-lar-i-ous!!!
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Fair enough then-I sincerely apologize for my comment to you. I jumped to an incorrect conclusion.
But the people you’re talking about are a minority of a much larger set. And a lot of social cons are getting a little tired of being blamed for the current mess that Republicans and conservatives are in:
http://spectator.org/blog/2009/02/09/the-republicans-missing-keysto
Dreadnought on February 18, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Thank you for the response. Overall, yes, I agree with you. I did not however, prior to today, realize how extreme Charles was in his requirement that posters agree with everything he says and not criticize him in any way.
Django on February 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Here, I’ll help you with your argument.
There. Now you can find the six results. Oh wait, only one of those results involves me referring to someone as a Nazi sympathizer, like Pat Buchanan. Wonder who that is?
Other than you, I’m afraid, it’s a little dry on the Godwin side for me. I’m sure, though, that my hundreds of other posts are all subtle encryption of the phrase “you’re a nazi”.
Have fun at Stormfront!
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM
I wonder if Hitch is plotting the limits of sardonic wit on a map. I see a new reality show in the making.
He should be thankful he didn’t include a drawing of a chimp.
moxie_neanderthal on February 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Calm down and try not to get too hysterical or I will have to up your meds again.
Sigmund on February 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Tell me, really…are you Dave Barry? Your self-parody is hilarious.
Last time I did that, I ended up naked in a fountain at the State Capitol. I somehow came up with a brilliant explanation for the cops. Other than something about interpretive dance, I can’t remember what it was. It works in this town, though.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Hilarious has one L, numbskull. Now about that hole…
hicsuget on February 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Okay, you’re making even less sense than before, if that’s possible.
Oh, yeah, that’s right; I heard alzehiemers get more daft in the late hours.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Sorry, I don’t follow your argument at all. It’s utterly incoherent.
Buy Danish on February 18, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Who’s whining? We’re simply not defending the thugs who attacked him and saying he had it coming.
Seriously, didn’t people here want those Danish cartoons shown and didn’t people here deride those who didn’t because they didn’t hold the jihadis responsible for their own actions?
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Gosh, that was witty.
At least make an effort.
Django on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM
And yeah, dumbass is not spelled “h-i-c-s-u-g-et”, either.
But then, what do I know?
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM
So not only can’t you spell Alzheimer’s to save your life, but you also think it’s a plural noun rather than a possessive describing a disease. You’re also apparently implying I’m of advanced age. That goes right on the shelf with the winners who describe me as “cheese-eating” and think it’s an insult. Please continue.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Say what you want.
Write what you want.
As long as it does not provoke a riot.
More clear, darlin’?
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM
His argument is “don’t censor meeeeeeeee i got my rights on yur privut web syt”.
Wait for it.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Nazi.
Montana on February 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM
Man, I go away for a few hundred posts and come back to….exactly what was here when I left.
Still, without a massive flame war these threads just wouldn’t be the same.
Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Oh, crap – my life was at stake!?! Knew I shoulda’ listend to my spellchecker!
Well, you knows yous’ grammar, massa’.
Actually, I was implying you’re brain-diseased. Never mentioned age.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM
If they succeed in establishing religion as a basic Republican Party tenet, they could do us in. When you say ‘radical right’ today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye.
Well, I’ve spent quite a number of years carrying the flag of the ‘Old Conservatism.’ And I can say with conviction that the religious issues of these groups have little or nothing to do with conservative or liberal politics. The uncompromising position of these groups is a divisive element that could tear apart the very spirit of our representative system, if they gain sufficient strength. Being a conservative in America traditionally has meant that one holds a deep, abiding respect for the Constitution. We conservatives believe sincerely in the integrity of the Constitution. We treasure the freedoms that document protects. By maintaining the separation of church and state, the United States has avoided the intolerance which has so divided the rest of the world with religious wars. Can any of us refute the wisdom of Madison and the other framers? Can anyone look at the carnage in Iran, the bloodshed in northern Ireland, or the bombs bursting in Lebanon and yet question the dangers of injecting religious issues into the affairs of state?
The religious factions will go on imposing their will on others, less the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives. We have succeeded for over 200 years in keeping the affairs of state separate from the uncompromising idealism of religious groups and we mustn’t stop now. To retreat from that separation would violate the principles of conservatism and the values upon which the framers built this democratic republic.
- Barry “Mr. Conservative” Goldwater
MB4 on February 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Pictures or it didn’t happen.
That’s really not funny, and I hope you never have to find out for yourself.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Hm. That makes the number of times you’ve called me a nazi one more than the number of times I’ve called you one, which is zero.
What was that about Godwin?
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Private? On the internet?
You have got to be kidding, right?
No matter how you spell alzheimer, you be showin’ the symptoms, massa’.
Get thee to a doctor.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:53 PM
I like to keep you begging.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Oh good god almighty – sensitivity expected at HOTAIR.COM!?!
Surely you jest.
This is what happens when you give women the vote.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Gack!!!!
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Oh look. The guy talking about commies apparently doesn’t recognize private property, which this entire site is. Want proof? Piss the hosts off enough, and they kick you out. You have no right to be here, at all, nor do any of us.
I know, it’s a revelation to trolls like you, who love to act like the First protects against anything more than government censorship of speech, but you’ll survive.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Stop oppressing me, you Nazi thug!
Hey everyone! Now you see the oppression of the system! I’m being oppressed by a vodka-drinkin’-cheese-eatin’-Wisconsin-Nazi!
Apologies to HotAir and HA posters. I’ll stop now. But I just couldn’t resist…because…
HE’S A NAZI! THEREFORE MY POINTS ARE CORRECT AND HIS ARE WRONG!!
Ok…signing off, to the relief of all!
Montana on February 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Ripping off Monty Python isn’t going to help your audition for SNL.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 8:57 PM
I am a very busy man. I have spent enough time giving you your bi-weekly electroshock treatments and your weekly treatment with leaches and after all these months, not to mention your being behind in my fees, the best I am professional obliged to do is up your meds. Now take several deep breaths and go lay down until your next scheduled appointment.
Sigmund on February 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM
“hic suget” is Latin. I guess they don’t teach that language at Cave Troll University.
hicsuget on February 18, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Man, you are one sure-fire dumbass. This is the internet. Whole new brave world.
You can ban someone. They get a new name.
You can block their ip. They get a new one (or ghost one).
Here’s your new name – “DumbassedMadisonConservativewhokissesAP’sasssodeepIgetpeoplebanned”
Whoop-do-f***ing-do.
Lost is on.
See you….in the past…the future…the present…you never know…
Liberty is dead.
MC proves it.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 8:59 PM
Ha! That’s so funny! You’re right. Women just don’t have the brain power to make all of those big decisions like knowing when it’s appropriate to make jokes about a disease that robs someone of the ability to process memories like the names of their loved ones.
If only I had a penis, I’d be able to laugh at that.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM
No apology necessary- I knew where you were coming from.
I also disagree with some of the chattering class, Beltway Republicans who believe that moving to the left on social issues, the environment, etc is the best way forward. Generally, the Republicans who tend to squish on social issues also go squishy on others as well. In addition, social conservatives make up a large, politically active part of the party and can’t be ignored.
Like I said, social and religious conservatives definitely have a place in the Republican party and conservative movement, but the subset of obnoxious, intolerant and sometimes hateful “conseratives” who believe that specific social issues and (their) religion exclusively define conservativism I can do without.
As it relates to this thread, athiests have just as much a right to a seat at the conservative table as anyone else. Hitch isn’t a conservative, and I often disagree with him, but he does get it right from time to time. Certainly he doesn’t deserve the hateful comments here on HA by those who seem to side with the facist thugs who beat him up.
Hollowpoint on February 18, 2009 at 9:01 PM
What, you don’t have DVR? No wonder you’ve got a stick up your anus. I’m grumpy when I have to watch commercials too.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Didn’t that feel good?
wccawa on February 18, 2009 at 9:03 PM
Yep.
Not all pussycat. The Danish cartoon riots (for example) blow your “logic” right out of the park. Winston Churchill, on the other hand, makes perfect sense: ON APPEASEMENT.
What he has to say about Socialism and Leftists is spot on too. No wonder Barry didn’t want his bust in the Oval Office.
Buy Danish on February 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM
That’s slightly better but still not particularly imaginative.
Django on February 18, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Hitler had only one ball
The other was in the kitchen wall
His mother cut it off when he was not very tall
? has two
But they are very small
And ?? has none at all
MB4 on February 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Then you can MAC-ban them, and without new hardware, you can suck a big ol’ bacon explosion.
You really want to go this route with an IT consultant?
And all your talk of trespassing on private property doesn’t change the fact that it is private property. You’re arguing that nobody owns a house because you can just break in if you want to.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM
You have no idea. I actually think it’s therapeutic.
wccawa on February 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Careful- the primaries will be here before you know it ;)
Hollowpoint on February 18, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Agreed 100%.
Dreadnought on February 18, 2009 at 9:07 PM
I knew you’d have a response.
If I were Anna, I’d say, “I hear: I keep girls chained up in the basement.”
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM
That’s another thing we have to work on – your sense of entitlement.
Sigmund on February 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I hear: “I love low lights, privacy, and a little bondage.”
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Alright, I can play…
I hear: You don’t want to see me with the lights on, and I can’t risk letting them run away.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:13 PM
I have 20 different ID’s. Well maybe after posting this 19. Do you really want to go this route with a maniac?
Joe Bloggs on February 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Ahem. The definitive version:
Hitler has only got one ball,
Goering has two but very small,
Himmler is something similar,
and Goebbels has no balls at all.
aengus on February 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM
See… NOW this thread is making me all crazy, and sweaty, and stuff. Or something.
wccawa on February 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM
That doesn’t really change his point, does it? Either way, you’re still breaking into a site where you are not wanted. Just because you can, that doesn’t mean it’s right.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Syrian Nazis Must Die.
Turtler on February 18, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Woops, I meant to say, Not at all pussycat at 9:04.
Buy Danish on February 18, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Oh the delicious irony…mmmm.
Good show Hitch! For this, I forgive you for the Obama thing.
ronsfi on February 18, 2009 at 9:23 PM
No “breaking in” and why do you presume that all twenty of me are unwanted?
Joe Bloggs on February 18, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I hear: “I love to play hard-to-get”.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM
You wouldn’t be the first, by far.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 9:28 PM
If one of you is unwanted, then all of you are.
Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM
And so is your average DU poster. You are truly pitiful if you think making people angry for the sake of making people angry is a virtue of an intellectual giant.
People desperately crying for negative attention are called patheric trolls, not thinkers. The essense of the thinkers you mentioned above is something your pee sized brain would never be able to grasp.
Aristotle on February 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM
.
Apparently, it’s OK as long as you’re a Fascist for Christ. Feh!
ronsfi on February 18, 2009 at 9:33 PM
I saw nothing. I heard nothing. I know nothing. I was not here. I did not even get up this morning.
OberfeldwebelSchultz on February 18, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Wait – laugh at the sudden appearance of a penis between your legs or my joke???
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Wow. Lost must have sucked tonight.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Envy is blind, and she has no other quality than that of detracting from virtue.
Tav on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Freudian slip?
hicsuget on February 18, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Not as sucky as you – it was during a commercial break.
klickink.wordpress.com on February 18, 2009 at 10:04 PM
I am just pleased as punch to be here in the midst of this love fest. I have an early morning, so PLEASE… enjoy the knife wounds, all!
wccawa on February 18, 2009 at 10:35 PM
Hitchens is a socialist.
Libertarian Joseph on February 18, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Things I’ve learned from the last few thousand comments:
1) Hitchens wasn’t drunk at the time, which means he was hung over.
2) If he’d done that to a Nazi poster in the ’20s, I wouldn’t have had the same reaction because I wasn’t born yet and there was no Internet.
3) Saying that Hitchens was dumb to do that in public, and shouldn’t have been surprised when it turned out badly, is apparently the same thing as growing a silly mustache and screaming about annexing the Sudetenland.
4) You do not want to mess with an IT consultant.
Jim Treacher on February 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Hitchens obviously doesn’t respect property rights lol
Libertarian Joseph on February 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM
WHEN he gets back?
. . .
Rot in Hell, Chris!
seanrobins on February 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Your logic escapes me.
Ghandi was offensive.
Hitchens is offensive.
So… Hitchens is GHANDI?
Are you our of your mind?
seanrobins on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 PM
And don’t you forget it. Or one day you’ll wake up and find your credit slashed. Or worse, find CRA loans on your record.
MadisonConservative on February 18, 2009 at 11:32 PM
Syrian Nazis, I hate those guys.
It needs to be said again and again.
Glad they are opening up diplomatic relations with them.
Mr. Joe on February 18, 2009 at 11:43 PM
I’m over there, and I think at the moment there are two things he finds objectionable. One is people cheering the physical assault on Christopher Hitchens, and the other is the way people talk to AllahPundit here.
Personally, I can see his point. I always enjoy your posts and I always thought of them as tempered and reasonable, so I was surprised to see you had trouble with Charles’ reaction on this.
capitalist piglet on February 19, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Well, how else do they maintain their fanaticism?
sethstorm on February 19, 2009 at 12:35 AM
Speaking for myself, I know that Hitchens is motivated by the same destructive impulses as his fellow liberals who are making life unbearable in the US. I’ve had bumper stickers vandalized, and I would have loved to have kicked the snot out of the person who did it, if I caught him.
It’s very easy to forget for a moment that all parties involved were lowlifes and just savor watching a deserving character get some comeupance after acting on his liberal impulses. It doesn’t happen the US enough.
Buddahpundit on February 19, 2009 at 12:54 AM
Desecrating a poster with a modified swastika for a party that works with terrorists is a “liberal impulse”?
What planet are you living on?
MadisonConservative on February 19, 2009 at 1:08 AM
The thing he vandalized is besides the point I was making. Hitchens types can justify all of their vulgar behavior. Fred Phelps might eventually get smacked around a little while protesting something I have no sympathy for, but he will still have had it coming.
Buddahpundit on February 19, 2009 at 1:38 AM
You’re being intentionally obtuse if you cannot distinguish between a man with a cultish little church, protesting military funerals with signs that say “Thank God for 9/11″ and “God Hates Fags”…and a guy who wrote “F you” on a poster advocating terrorism through the use of the resurrected nazi emblem.
The fact that you even made that comparison, when the Phelps family and that political party have a good deal of ideas in common, is astonishing.
MadisonConservative on February 19, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Interesting that you’d use the word “obtuse”. Phelps is a leftist pretending to be a Christian for the purpose of smearing Christianity, but even that is irrelevant to the point I made that I wouldn’t have any sympathy for Phelps no matter who Phelps was protesting when he gets his comeupance.
Buddahpundit on February 19, 2009 at 2:07 AM
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