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	<title>Comments on: Obama announces mortgage-bailout plan, market slides</title>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Housing foreclosures accelerate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Housing foreclosures accelerate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In February, Barack Obama and Timothy Geithner rolled out their plan to stem the tide of mortgage defaults.  Each of the two months since, housing foreclosures have hit new highs, justifying the pessimism of the markets at the announcement.  April&#8217;s numbers came as a big surprise, as March&#8217;s were so bad that analysts thought they couldn&#8217;t be topped (via Jim Geraghty): Foreclosures in April exceeded even March&#8217;s blistering pace with a record 342,000 homes receiving notices of default, auction notices or undergoing bank repossessions, according to a regular industry report. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In February, Barack Obama and Timothy Geithner rolled out their plan to stem the tide of mortgage defaults.  Each of the two months since, housing foreclosures have hit new highs, justifying the pessimism of the markets at the announcement.  April&#8217;s numbers came as a big surprise, as March&#8217;s were so bad that analysts thought they couldn&#8217;t be topped (via Jim Geraghty): Foreclosures in April exceeded even March&#8217;s blistering pace with a record 342,000 homes receiving notices of default, auction notices or undergoing bank repossessions, according to a regular industry report. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Democrats Continue To Melt Down Economy With Socialist BS &#171; Start Thinking Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democrats Continue To Melt Down Economy With Socialist BS &#171; Start Thinking Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wall Street plunged to it&#8217;s lowest level since May 4, 1997 - which as everyone knows was when Bill Clinton was President and the streets were all paved with gold - with the Dow closing down 251 points to 7115.  In a total abandonment of confidence in Obama&#8217;s ability to handle the economy, the market has lost more than 1000 points since Obama announced his plan to &#8220;stimulate&#8221; the economy, and more than 2000 points since he was elected. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wall Street plunged to it&#8217;s lowest level since May 4, 1997 &#8211; which as everyone knows was when Bill Clinton was President and the streets were all paved with gold &#8211; with the Dow closing down 251 points to 7115.  In a total abandonment of confidence in Obama&#8217;s ability to handle the economy, the market has lost more than 1000 points since Obama announced his plan to &#8220;stimulate&#8221; the economy, and more than 2000 points since he was elected. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jcila</title>
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		<dc:creator>jcila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea and rigth now they are about to have a stock market version of the boston tea party..

Its BS why should i be forced to pay higher taxes when i am trying to find a second job to pay the rest of bills off..

but obama wants to GIVE every illegal mexican and poor person a new FREE deal refinanced and paid for by the us government..

let me ask this
why should i even bother to report my income now..
Since the IRS is run by a tax cheating scumbag
Sicne the IRS is so screwed up they still have never been able to send me the 1200 dollars from last years stimulis..

Probably was sent overseas to buy condoms for the kennedys playmates or barney franks..

the irs is so screwed up they offered to send me 6 dollars for my trouble (i waited 8 months)..

I actually called the MORONS back and told them to 
a keep it ..
b. do they need help re-writing their database system&gt;?
c. just like social security if and i mean IF
any of it ever shows up in the next 10 years..

I might be able to pay my electric bill..


Morons..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea and rigth now they are about to have a stock market version of the boston tea party..</p>
<p>Its BS why should i be forced to pay higher taxes when i am trying to find a second job to pay the rest of bills off..</p>
<p>but obama wants to GIVE every illegal mexican and poor person a new FREE deal refinanced and paid for by the us government..</p>
<p>let me ask this<br />
why should i even bother to report my income now..<br />
Since the IRS is run by a tax cheating scumbag<br />
Sicne the IRS is so screwed up they still have never been able to send me the 1200 dollars from last years stimulis..</p>
<p>Probably was sent overseas to buy condoms for the kennedys playmates or barney franks..</p>
<p>the irs is so screwed up they offered to send me 6 dollars for my trouble (i waited 8 months)..</p>
<p>I actually called the MORONS back and told them to<br />
a keep it ..<br />
b. do they need help re-writing their database system&gt;?<br />
c. just like social security if and i mean IF<br />
any of it ever shows up in the next 10 years..</p>
<p>I might be able to pay my electric bill..</p>
<p>Morons..</p>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up &#187; Housing crisis solutions: Feeding the addiction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up &#187; Housing crisis solutions: Feeding the addiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JohnInCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnInCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Homeowners also are eligible for $1,000 annually for five years for remaining current on their loans, according to the plan. The cash will be applied to reducing the principal balance of the loan, according to a White House fact sheet. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, if you get one of these loan modifications and you stay current on the loan (which you are supposed to do), you can get $1,000 annually for 5 years to apply to the principal of the loan. And, of course, the money comes from us, the taxpayers.
 But, what if I stayed current on all my payments since I bought my house 4 years ago?  I&#039;ve never been late or missed a payment.  Can I get $5,000 to apply to the principal of my loan?

The honest, hardworking guy who does things the right way keeps getting the shaft.

Also, by government intervening and artificially propping up home prices there are unintended consequences.  Think of all of the young families who are trying to buy their first house.  For the last several years home prices were way too high for them.  So, they waited and probably saved money.  And, just when the bubble bursts and those homes start to come down into their price range the government steps in and props up home prices.  And decent people are kept out of the market so we can save the homes of people who were irresponsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Homeowners also are eligible for $1,000 annually for five years for remaining current on their loans, according to the plan. The cash will be applied to reducing the principal balance of the loan, according to a White House fact sheet. </p></blockquote>
<p>So, if you get one of these loan modifications and you stay current on the loan (which you are supposed to do), you can get $1,000 annually for 5 years to apply to the principal of the loan. And, of course, the money comes from us, the taxpayers.<br />
 But, what if I stayed current on all my payments since I bought my house 4 years ago?  I&#8217;ve never been late or missed a payment.  Can I get $5,000 to apply to the principal of my loan?</p>
<p>The honest, hardworking guy who does things the right way keeps getting the shaft.</p>
<p>Also, by government intervening and artificially propping up home prices there are unintended consequences.  Think of all of the young families who are trying to buy their first house.  For the last several years home prices were way too high for them.  So, they waited and probably saved money.  And, just when the bubble bursts and those homes start to come down into their price range the government steps in and props up home prices.  And decent people are kept out of the market so we can save the homes of people who were irresponsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertarian Joseph</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1894199</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertarian Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government should do nothing and let home values fall. The free market needs to work. We can start by getting rid of the FDIC and letting banks fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government should do nothing and let home values fall. The free market needs to work. We can start by getting rid of the FDIC and letting banks fail.</p>
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		<title>By: mhrepub</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1894081</link>
		<dc:creator>mhrepub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one gets to vote for this.  It is all by Presidential decree or his plan on how to spend the second half of the TARP.  No one else has any input. Many have opposed the mortgage cramdown in the past.  He just implemented it, again without any debate, just like the stimulus.  I am truly worried about my 401 K, what&#039;s left, and any money I have in the bank.  They just may Nationalize the banks by Executive Order!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one gets to vote for this.  It is all by Presidential decree or his plan on how to spend the second half of the TARP.  No one else has any input. Many have opposed the mortgage cramdown in the past.  He just implemented it, again without any debate, just like the stimulus.  I am truly worried about my 401 K, what&#8217;s left, and any money I have in the bank.  They just may Nationalize the banks by Executive Order!!!</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyU</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnyU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put a rule on it that if you have any criminal record you can&#039;t qualitfy for the money.  That should stop the lazy dope dealer down the street from scoring our hard earned tax money while we work our ass off to pay for the sh*t they stole out of our sheds and houses to support their habit.

Looks like they are getting the free gas and housing they voted for huh? Un f&#039;n real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put a rule on it that if you have any criminal record you can&#8217;t qualitfy for the money.  That should stop the lazy dope dealer down the street from scoring our hard earned tax money while we work our ass off to pay for the sh*t they stole out of our sheds and houses to support their habit.</p>
<p>Looks like they are getting the free gas and housing they voted for huh? Un f&#8217;n real.</p>
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		<title>By: imfedup</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1893525</link>
		<dc:creator>imfedup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, in a nutshell, if you were responsible and got a mortgage you could afford and paid your bills, you will be punished by having your money taken by force, and given as a reward to those who were irresponsible, or broke the law by getting a mortgage they were not qualified for. Brilliant.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Isn&#039;t it just a slap in the face?  I am a single mother with a son in college, and was unemployed for a year just a few years ago.  At the time, I had a first AND second mortgage on our home, but never was even LATE, let alone ever missed a payment.

I&#039;ll be damned if I am going to pay for the lazy deadbeats of Obama&#039;s &quot;victim&quot; class that he is so anxious to pay for everything little thing fcr them.

No one has ever helped me and I never expected anyone to.  I am a RESPONSIBLE person.

We need to go after the heads of ANYONE who votes for this crap.

I am &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;PISSED&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, in a nutshell, if you were responsible and got a mortgage you could afford and paid your bills, you will be punished by having your money taken by force, and given as a reward to those who were irresponsible, or broke the law by getting a mortgage they were not qualified for. Brilliant.</p>
<p>Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it just a slap in the face?  I am a single mother with a son in college, and was unemployed for a year just a few years ago.  At the time, I had a first AND second mortgage on our home, but never was even LATE, let alone ever missed a payment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be damned if I am going to pay for the lazy deadbeats of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;victim&#8221; class that he is so anxious to pay for everything little thing fcr them.</p>
<p>No one has ever helped me and I never expected anyone to.  I am a RESPONSIBLE person.</p>
<p>We need to go after the heads of ANYONE who votes for this crap.</p>
<p>I am <strong><em>PISSED</em></strong>!!</p>
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		<title>By: More Obamanomics magic! &#171; The Daley Gator</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1893354</link>
		<dc:creator>More Obamanomics magic! &#171; The Daley Gator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More Obamanomics&#160;magic!  Obama speaks, the markets TANK! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TN Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>TN Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One part of this plan is to give $1000 per year for 5 years to these bail-out home owners if they pay their mortgages on time every year.  

Wow, what an idiot I am for paying my bills on time...and my taxes for that matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One part of this plan is to give $1000 per year for 5 years to these bail-out home owners if they pay their mortgages on time every year.  </p>
<p>Wow, what an idiot I am for paying my bills on time&#8230;and my taxes for that matter!</p>
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		<title>By: Outlander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Outlander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ever heard of a paint brush? Soap and water? A little elbow grease? You’d be amazed what those 3 items can do to what you call “crap”. Maybe you need to “reboot” your thinking.
Knucklehead on February 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
On average, the cost to rehab the houses I was looking at was $30,000.  I can&#039;t make a 20% down payment and outlay $30k in cash to fix a place up.  (And I&#039;m not talking replacing wallpaper; I&#039;m talking replacing damaged plumbing, foundation repair work, holes in wall, gutted kitchens, etc.)  It&#039;s incredibly depressing.  And you  haven&#039;t answered my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ever heard of a paint brush? Soap and water? A little elbow grease? You’d be amazed what those 3 items can do to what you call “crap”. Maybe you need to “reboot” your thinking.<br />
Knucklehead on February 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>On average, the cost to rehab the houses I was looking at was $30,000.  I can&#8217;t make a 20% down payment and outlay $30k in cash to fix a place up.  (And I&#8217;m not talking replacing wallpaper; I&#8217;m talking replacing damaged plumbing, foundation repair work, holes in wall, gutted kitchens, etc.)  It&#8217;s incredibly depressing.  And you  haven&#8217;t answered my point.</p>
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		<title>By: duff65</title>
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		<dc:creator>duff65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is beyond dangerous.  He is completely out of his mind.  He just wasted 800B and the next day he wants to spend about 250B bailing out deadbeats (OK only 80% deadbeats).  He seems to think that money grows on trees.  Didn&#039;t these people ever hear about do nothing will work better than total stupidity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is beyond dangerous.  He is completely out of his mind.  He just wasted 800B and the next day he wants to spend about 250B bailing out deadbeats (OK only 80% deadbeats).  He seems to think that money grows on trees.  Didn&#8217;t these people ever hear about do nothing will work better than total stupidity?</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;scalleywag on February 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM --&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Spent all of last week and then some down in DC...and there &lt;strong&gt;IS&lt;/strong&gt; another &quot;stimulus package&quot; being put together in Congress, and it looks like even another being drafted in the White House for submission to Congress.  Heard at least a dozen times, if not more, that the &quot;stimulus&quot; Obama signed into law (yesterday) was not enough and merely a first step or initial step toward &quot;full economic recovery.&quot;

What I heard from the Republicans I encountered was that there is no way to stop this juggernaut...at least not in the near term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>scalleywag on February 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM &#8211;</p></blockquote>
<p>Spent all of last week and then some down in DC&#8230;and there <strong>IS</strong> another &#8220;stimulus package&#8221; being put together in Congress, and it looks like even another being drafted in the White House for submission to Congress.  Heard at least a dozen times, if not more, that the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; Obama signed into law (yesterday) was not enough and merely a first step or initial step toward &#8220;full economic recovery.&#8221;</p>
<p>What I heard from the Republicans I encountered was that there is no way to stop this juggernaut&#8230;at least not in the near term.</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OUTRAGED!

JeffVader on February 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wonder if the medical community has ever done a study on politics as to how it affects people&#039;s blood pressure?  haha.  I know stuff like this can&#039;t be good for the heart because it makes mine boil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OUTRAGED!</p>
<p>JeffVader on February 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if the medical community has ever done a study on politics as to how it affects people&#8217;s blood pressure?  haha.  I know stuff like this can&#8217;t be good for the heart because it makes mine boil.</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;coldwarrior on February 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right. Just another program where there&#039;s no way to hold anyone accountable to do the right thing.  What&#039;s he going to do, appoint a &quot;don&#039;t rip off the taxpayers with your mortgage bailout money czar&quot;.  How&#039;s that going with the automakers?  Geez.

I&#039;m no economist but I&#039;m getting tired of dropping my jaw at all these hair brained schemes our new government is throwing at us.  And is the money in addition to the &quot;shoveitatus&quot; bill, or is that part of the great plan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>coldwarrior on February 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Right. Just another program where there&#8217;s no way to hold anyone accountable to do the right thing.  What&#8217;s he going to do, appoint a &#8220;don&#8217;t rip off the taxpayers with your mortgage bailout money czar&#8221;.  How&#8217;s that going with the automakers?  Geez.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no economist but I&#8217;m getting tired of dropping my jaw at all these hair brained schemes our new government is throwing at us.  And is the money in addition to the &#8220;shoveitatus&#8221; bill, or is that part of the great plan?</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyone working on this already?

ksm on February 18, 2009 at 5:11 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I seriously doubt you&#039;re the only person who thinks this is a great idea.  People are getting more and more fed up every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyone working on this already?</p>
<p>ksm on February 18, 2009 at 5:11 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I seriously doubt you&#8217;re the only person who thinks this is a great idea.  People are getting more and more fed up every day.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;scalleywag on February 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, of course, these folks will immediately remunerate the federal government for any and all profits made as a result of the federal government enabling them to make that killing, right?  

Any monies received in excess of the actual initial cost to the government for that bailout would thus be returned to the federal treasury, right?  

It&#039;s only fair, right?

Or am I wrong...and these folks will scream to high heaven till the cows come home about how unfair it will be that they&#039;d have to pay back anyone, let alone the federal government, just because they made money for free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>scalleywag on February 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, of course, these folks will immediately remunerate the federal government for any and all profits made as a result of the federal government enabling them to make that killing, right?  </p>
<p>Any monies received in excess of the actual initial cost to the government for that bailout would thus be returned to the federal treasury, right?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s only fair, right?</p>
<p>Or am I wrong&#8230;and these folks will scream to high heaven till the cows come home about how unfair it will be that they&#8217;d have to pay back anyone, let alone the federal government, just because they made money for free?</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;has anyone seriously considered moving overseas? I don’t mean just a fleeting thought, but serious consideration.

donnak on February 18, 2009 at 4:19 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not overseas but I&#039;m seriously thinking of taking my retirement dollars to Mexico where I can actually live on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>has anyone seriously considered moving overseas? I don’t mean just a fleeting thought, but serious consideration.</p>
<p>donnak on February 18, 2009 at 4:19 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Not overseas but I&#8217;m seriously thinking of taking my retirement dollars to Mexico where I can actually live on them.</p>
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		<title>By: bryanmyrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryanmyrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since his election, the market has dropped over 2,000 points, largely over issues out of his control.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ed, is this some kind of liberal creep showing up again in your writing?  Don&#039;t most conservatives believe that the market is not under anyone&#039;s control?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since his election, the market has dropped over 2,000 points, largely over issues out of his control.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ed, is this some kind of liberal creep showing up again in your writing?  Don&#8217;t most conservatives believe that the market is not under anyone&#8217;s control?</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;People who took those kinds of risks should assume the burden of their own bad decisions&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Should they?  Not according to our president.  So what happens if the price of these homes go back up, we&#039;re paying for people to make a killing on real estate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>People who took those kinds of risks should assume the burden of their own bad decisions</p></blockquote>
<p>Should they?  Not according to our president.  So what happens if the price of these homes go back up, we&#8217;re paying for people to make a killing on real estate?</p>
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		<title>By: JeffVader</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffVader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OUTRAGED!!! I AM SO PISSED OFF I&#039;M SHAKING.

  
So lets see if I&#039;ve got this correct:
  
My wife and I have skimped and saved, ( living below our means rather than above it ) since 2001 when we noticed that housing prices were rising at unreasonable rate.  We lived like it was a depression; drove 25 year old economy cars, kept the house at 61 degrees in the winter, seldom dined out, and did most of our shopping at Costco.  We were saving just as our parents and grand parents had done for the inevitable correction in the housing market.
   
Now our government is going to reward those that have lived beyond their means, those who purchased new cars, boats, motorcycles, or jet-skies from capital through refinanced mortgages.  Slow the correction until inflation ruins the value of our savings.   And on top of it all it is my tax dollars that will enable it!  OUTRAGEOUS! 


Will the irresponsible home purchasers  pay a price for their actions? Is the government going to: 

require these people to divest themselves of these assets purchased through the refinancing...Nope!   
 
require that these folks declare bankruptcy?  Doesn&#039;t look like it!
     
Will we the tax payers get a piece of the appreciation of the sale of a &quot;crammed down&quot; house?  Nope!  In fact, according to the Obama administration&#039;s Christina Romer says,  we will all be repaid by getting an improved economy.......

OUTRAGED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OUTRAGED!!! I AM SO PISSED OFF I&#8217;M SHAKING.</p>
<p>So lets see if I&#8217;ve got this correct:</p>
<p>My wife and I have skimped and saved, ( living below our means rather than above it ) since 2001 when we noticed that housing prices were rising at unreasonable rate.  We lived like it was a depression; drove 25 year old economy cars, kept the house at 61 degrees in the winter, seldom dined out, and did most of our shopping at Costco.  We were saving just as our parents and grand parents had done for the inevitable correction in the housing market.</p>
<p>Now our government is going to reward those that have lived beyond their means, those who purchased new cars, boats, motorcycles, or jet-skies from capital through refinanced mortgages.  Slow the correction until inflation ruins the value of our savings.   And on top of it all it is my tax dollars that will enable it!  OUTRAGEOUS! </p>
<p>Will the irresponsible home purchasers  pay a price for their actions? Is the government going to: </p>
<p>require these people to divest themselves of these assets purchased through the refinancing&#8230;Nope!   </p>
<p>require that these folks declare bankruptcy?  Doesn&#8217;t look like it!</p>
<p>Will we the tax payers get a piece of the appreciation of the sale of a &#8220;crammed down&#8221; house?  Nope!  In fact, according to the Obama administration&#8217;s Christina Romer says,  we will all be repaid by getting an improved economy&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>OUTRAGED!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1892314</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

rockmom, do you have a link to the actual plan, I&#039;d be interested in reading it.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 3:41 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>rockmom, do you have a link to the actual plan, I&#8217;d be interested in reading it.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: ksm</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/18/obama-announces-mortgage-bailout-plan-market-slides/comment-page-2/#comment-1892290</link>
		<dc:creator>ksm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning I laid in bed wondering what would be the best process for several states to peacefully break away and form their own country, a country actually based upon the US Constitution. Texas, Alaska, the southeast, some of the southwest etc. Virginia should divide into two sections and leave the DC suburbs behind. What would be the process for getting this movement started? 

How would we build the political groundswell in the states that want to regain their freedom? How would we divide up the national debt, who would own what nukes, etc.

We would be for free people and limited government, like the founding fathers wanted.

No question that a vibrant &quot;Consitutional States of America&quot; could quickly leave the moribund liberal states in the dust in terms of quality of life and economic growth. Perhaps more of the blue states would choose to join us over time as the old US proceeds down its path.

Anyone working on this already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning I laid in bed wondering what would be the best process for several states to peacefully break away and form their own country, a country actually based upon the US Constitution. Texas, Alaska, the southeast, some of the southwest etc. Virginia should divide into two sections and leave the DC suburbs behind. What would be the process for getting this movement started? </p>
<p>How would we build the political groundswell in the states that want to regain their freedom? How would we divide up the national debt, who would own what nukes, etc.</p>
<p>We would be for free people and limited government, like the founding fathers wanted.</p>
<p>No question that a vibrant &#8220;Consitutional States of America&#8221; could quickly leave the moribund liberal states in the dust in terms of quality of life and economic growth. Perhaps more of the blue states would choose to join us over time as the old US proceeds down its path.</p>
<p>Anyone working on this already?</p>
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		<title>By: PackerBronco</title>
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		<dc:creator>PackerBronco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are many such people and many such deals. Why should they be demonized?

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t demonize them nor do I want to assume the costs associated with their risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are many such people and many such deals. Why should they be demonized?</p>
<p>Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t demonize them nor do I want to assume the costs associated with their risk.</p>
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