Obama announces mortgage-bailout plan, market slides

posted at 1:30 pm on February 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

At least this time Barack Obama actually had a plan.  Unlike the bait-and-switch moment from Tim Geithner on TARP II, Obama rolled out an actual plan to have the government force refinancing and lower payments for mortgage holders under water.  The markets reacted better than they did last week to Geithner’s epic fail, but that’s not saying much:

Wall Street extended its decline Wednesday after President Barack Obama released details of his $75 billion mortgage relief plan.

The plan is designed to help stabilize the housing market and reduce foreclosures. Sharp drops in housing prices and sales, coupled with rising foreclosures since the middle of 2007, have been a primary cause of the toughest recession in decades.

Mr. Obama’s announcement of the plan comes a day after he signed into law a $787 billion economic stimulus plan he hopes will help revive the economy.

In midmorning trading, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 25.40, or 0.34 percent, to 7,527.20.

Broader stock indicators also slid. The Standard & Poor’s 500 index fell 3.58, or 0.45 percent, to 785.59, and the Nasdaq composite index fell 4.80, or 0.33 percent, to 1,465.86.

Thus far, Wall Street has not exactly given Barack Obama a rousing show of confidence.  Since his election, the market has dropped over 2,000 points, largely over issues out of his control.  Since the inauguration, though, it has fallen about a third of that distance, mostly after Geithner showed up empty-handed following Obama’s promise of an actual plan to deal with the financial crisis.

Obama’s plan will provide a government backstop for homeowners who owe more than their houses are now worth.  Obama will throw $75 billion in incentives and guarantees at this issue, trying to stop a massive wave of foreclosures that will destabilize the real-estate market and could send many more people under water.  This was what Treasury and Henry Paulson originally pledged to do with TARP — buy up mortgage-backed securities to remove the threat of foreclosure and renegotiate mortgage terms as the primary lender.  Had Treasury actually done this earlier, the market may have stabilized without much more intervention at all.  Instead, they threw a lot of money at private enterprise bailouts before coming back to the actual problem.

The problem, of course, is that we have too much inventory on the market, and that requires a rational revaluation of assets.  The indicators from the housing market show this very clearly; new starts fell almost 17%, the steepest decline on record.  Why?  No one’s buying, primarily because few people can afford to sell.  Until we plumb the full extent of the bubble correction, no one will have a clear idea about the real value of their property.  Government intervention in the housing market will almost certainly thwart that, postponing rather than canceling the pain.

Mary Katherine Ham notes one of the real problems in the housing market, and a class who shouldn’t get a bailout — flippers:

According to the Arizona Republic, housing prices soared more than 55 percent in 2005 alone, and one of four sales that year was to a speculator. Phoenix real estate bloggers argued with housing bubble bloggers, blithely dismissing those who foresaw the crash as paranoid doomsdayers. The city is home to Nouveau Riche University—not a joke—a real-estate speculation program whose course offerings read like a guidebook to creating the current crisis. Learn to “Fix ‘n’ Flip” or how to buy more property with “Creative Financing!”

But the time came when the sun set on the Valley of the Sun. Today, Phoenix is not only home to families down on their luck and behind on their home payments, but people who acted irresponsibly and may be underwater on several houses. The problem is such that there’s an entire blog devoted to “Phoenix Flippers in Trouble.” Eleven of the properties listed there are in Mesa, where Obama is giving his speech today.

So, one wonders what type of homeowners the American taxpayer will be bailing out under Obama’s plan. Will he try to save only people in danger of losing a primary residence, or will he consider saving flippers part of the collateral cost of propping up the housing market? Even if he intends to keep flippers off the dole, there’s no reason to have any confidence in oversight that would actually accomplish that.

We saw the same thing in the California housing bubble in the late 70s.  People flipped houses without ever protecting themselves against even a small retraction in values, and when the inevitable happened, they went broke.  People who took those kinds of risks should assume the burden of their own bad decisions.

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I fail to see how this stops the drop in housing prices.

tarpon on February 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Is there like a goal to spend $100 billion/day or something? Above and beyond the budget?

Geesh.

Anyways, “market slides”. Really? Yesterday it was down like 3%, today it’s only .25% – so its an improvement.

Yay!

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM

tarpon on February 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Government’s job is to stop the drop?

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Hopey Changey BS.

This will not fix the root of the problem, which is two-fold.

First, you have government conducing a social experiment, in the name of “fairness”, telling lending institutions to loan to people with poor credit or not credit, because, dog-on-it, they deserve a home too! (*snort)

Then you have bad lenders, who single-out low-income people who cannot afford a home. These lenders convince these people that they not only CAN afford a home, but can get into it for little next to nothing. They don’t explain the specifics of the loan, and the people sign their lives away on a bad chunk of money.

There core problem in all of that is responsibility. No one wants to own-up to it.

Talismen on February 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Will this have any impact on the increased aid Hillary has promised Indonesia?

argos on February 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM

How does one get the money?

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Anyways, “market slides”. Really? Yesterday it was down like 3%, today it’s only .25% – so its an improvement.

Yay!

lorien1973

That’s sarcasm, isn’t it? I like that.

:)

I like your positive outlook.

todler on February 18, 2009 at 1:36 PM

If the banks want the cash from the bailout,
then they better tow-the-Obama-line!

The only change so far,is the different caliber
pointed out the banks!

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

I own a house in the PHX area, but I’m no flipper–we live in it.
Bail me out, BHO!

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Foolish me. I took out a mortgage that I could afford. And didn’t go for an ARM in order to get a big fancy plasma tv.

rbj on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

This plan is not going to apply to “flippers”. Speaking of flippers, I don’t see any reason to demonize them because they took a risk – that’s capitalism. Of course they should “assume the burden”, but the implication that all flippers make “bad” decisions is – well, very liberal of you. (No, I’m not now, nor have I ever been, a “flipper”).

FuriousAmerican on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Whew. And I was afraid he was going to say something about taking money from folks who have made good financial decisions and using it to bailout folks who made bad financial decisions.

Oh, wait….

Changucopia on February 18, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Government’s job is to stop the drop?

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Government’s job is to do everything. They won’t be done until we are all encased in government-issued iron lungs.

Mr. D on February 18, 2009 at 1:39 PM

The best part of all this is that people with good jobs were not making mortgage payments and were trying to time this bill. A crutch is not for strengthening purposes. Now we have more people using this government as a crutch, absolutely insane.

Tremmy on February 18, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Throwing good money after bad as fast as he can.

OmahaConservative on February 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM

“The Market” drops when you are the President of the United States and you lie to it, and it knows you’re lying to it, and you know you’re lying to it. It destroys confidence, and confidence is what people are trying to buy on Wall Street.

RBMN on February 18, 2009 at 1:40 PM

how much is this going to cost me?

news flash you bought a home your now underwater.
guess what , deal with it .

Its not my responsibility to subsidize you .

Mojack420 on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Uhhh…. just when in the heck is Barry doing the JOB of being President?

In the last week, he’s spent about ten minutes in Washington, crafting policy… and the rest of the time flying around, making speaches, announcing policy.

Just who in the heck is running the Executive branch? Has he even HAD a Cabinet meeting yet?

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM

BHO didn’t have the worshipful reception here that he hoped for:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135640

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

rbj on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

What are you? Nuts? Geesh.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

A question posed without the benefit of having read Mr. Obama’s plan (someone has got to work to pay off this debt): To provide a “backstop” for over-valued property facing foreclosure, won’t the gummint have to determine its “fair market value” for the scheme to work? That’s assuming that the plan is not based on simply valuing a property based on the mortgagee’s ability to pay. One wonders how in Tophet’s name is Mr. Obama planning on doing that?

That’s the thing about the market, it is awful and unfair until you have to try to do what it does yourself.

Tamaqua on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

O/T,Btw,Rush is on fire at this very moment!:)

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

So, in a nutshell, if you were responsible and got a mortgage you could afford and paid your bills, you will be punished by having your money taken by force, and given as a reward to those who were irresponsible, or broke the law by getting a mortgage they were not qualified for. Brilliant.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Its not my responsibility to subsidize you .

Mojack420 on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Oh yes it is. Know your role, dammit.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM

…It’s only about 8 miles from my house. Maybe I should’ve joined them.

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Yep. Totally sound economic policy. I don’t see any problems here!

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Obama’s plan will provide a government backstop for homeowners who owe more than their houses are now worth.

Throughout the new millineum I worked on changing some of the wiring of million dollar houses placed on Lake Michigan. I witnessed people buying these houses, having about 10 thousand dollars worth of work done on them, then saw them ‘flip’ those houses for tens of thousands more than they paid for them. Now we must bail them out?!?!

Watching the rich get richer. Thanks for that, Da Bama.

DannoJyd on February 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I listened to the speech on the radio.

Lot’s of cheering when he extended it to others who are still solvent but whos mortgages are greater than house worth.

What’s that thing about the end of Democracy and thunderous applause?

hawkdriver on February 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Just give us all $250,000 and call it a day…

right2bright on February 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM

I’d just like to be able to buy a house, my own house, that I can live in ’til I die.

But I’m a public school teacher in California, so I can’t afford it.

$@&*$%!

Bob's Kid on February 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM

God… That CNBC report was right out of the world’s smallest violin file. What is happening to the flippers is no different from someone failing in the restaurant business or a myriad of other small business ventures. These people chose to get into the real estate business and should be forced to pay the consequences for the stupid decisions.

Illinidiva on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Oh, the insanity….!

Only 30 days into this puppy, too.

Bottom line, the Obama pronouncements from on high, thus far, have made it clear that if you work hard, pay your taxes, mortgage, dues…follow the rules, try to live a clean and decent life…hey, you’re screwed.

And since we, the above mentioned hard-working, tax paying, etc., citizens of this country are now financing those who are not…well, of course, the market is going to tank.

Hope don’t pay the rent…nor the piper.

coldwarrior on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

The greatest thing The One has done so far is cause a consistent panic in the markets.

He’s really good at that.

Oh, yeah…&& he’s also good at driving gun sales through the roof…Have to give him that.

bluelightbrigade on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

What’s that thing about the end of Democracy and thunderous applause?

hawkdriver on February 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Yes…. and I’m takikng Ballroom dancing lessons…

Because…

Whats a revolution without dancing?

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Bob’s Kid on February 18, 2009 at 1:46 PM

What does that have to do with anything? Just buy it. Gubmint will fix it later.

These tax protests get it all wrong anyways. Some people just need to hold up signs saying “So, who pays for this?”

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

I think it is time we all begin to apply the Geithner method to our tax returns. “Who is John Galt?”, indeed.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Awesome. Conservatives make more clever signs than moonbats.

They held their signs up high: “Don’t tread on me,” “Spend all you want, I’ll pick up the tab,” “I’ll keep my freedom! You keep the change!” “Free fertility drugs now.” And “B.O. smells and so does Socialism.”

A Gilbert woman, with a sign that said, “Fund bikini wax now,” said she is entitled to the beauty treatment.

Brat on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Whats a revolution without dancing?

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Uhhh…. just when in the heck is Barry doing the JOB of being President?

In the last week, he’s spent about ten minutes in Washington, crafting policy… and the rest of the time flying around, making speaches, announcing policy.

Just who in the heck is running the Executive branch? Has he even HAD a Cabinet meeting yet?

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Barry doesn’t want to be President… He wants to “do” the President (as in fly around the country on Air Force One and pretend that he knows what he’s doing).

Illinidiva on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Jonah Goldberg’s take.

carbon_footprint on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

I have zero confidence in Geithner, and I’m certain Obama is going to find a way to get any TARP II recipients to be vested in voting Democratic.

On the issue of Paulson using TARP I to re-capitalize banks instead of providing home value support, I think he had to. Supporting home values would work, but would take too long. The banks were in such distress that many of them might not have lasted without re-capitalization. I mean, the 30 day bank-to-bank rates were like 4%, that’s loan shark territory. Clearly, the TARP I funds accomplished their purpose – buy time.

Kenrod on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I am at this moment awaiting a response from Wells Fargo (my mortgage bank) to the letter I sent earlier today to please send all correspondence and payment instructions to the White House. I heard that the Obama Menstruation was going to take care of the mortgage mess, and that I needn’t worry.

BobMbx on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Very interesting,so I guess if you bought
a bunch of houses,and instead of going bankrupt,

you can jut sit tight,with a pina-colada in hand,
and Hopey/Changey will dispatch a rainbow with pot
o’gold at the end of your driveway!

Outstanding!(Sarc!).

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM

O/T,Btw,Rush is on fire at this very moment!:)

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

Then tell someone to get a fire extinguisher!

All the bloviating in the world isn’t going to stop Osama Obama-Chavez. It is time to consider organized resistance to the communizing of our nation.

Somehow, I don’t expect to see Rash Fatblob leading it.

MrScribbler on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Obama rolled out an actual plan to have the government force refinancing and lower payments for mortgage holders under water.

Community Reinvestment Act II………..

………… see how well it worked out the first time?

We are so screwed, I’m just going to start drinking and putting my hand out for the cash……

Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Brat on February 18, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Yes, I’m kinda regretting not going.
If Michelle had brought some of that yummy pork from yesterday, I would’ve been there in a heartbeat.

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

My favorite protester sign: “B.O. smells and so does Socialism”. Heh. That should be a bumper sticker.

FuriousAmerican on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

My car is currently worth less than the loan I have out on it.

Can someone help me out? Gubmint?

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

tarpon on February 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Government’s job is to stop the drop?

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Lorien, I don’t think it’s Government’s job, but if they’re spending $75B on the problem, I would at least want it to FIX said problem ;-)

hawksruleva on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Foolish me. I took out a mortgage that I could afford. And didn’t go for an ARM in order to get a big fancy plasma tv.

rbj on February 18, 2009 at 1:37 PM

Me too. You can no longer look to the society at large for confirmation of your beliefs, or for approval of your actions. You don’t live in the place you used to. Be proud inside, and teach your children well, even secretly if necessary. Keep civilization alive.

JiangxiDad on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

If the goal is to keep people from becoming homeless, I can understand why it would be limited only to people at risk of losing a primary residence.

If it’s to help stabilize the market, why would we ever limit it to just those at risk of losing their own home? Is a homeowner with one house that got a loan they couldn’t afford through creative financing somehow morally superior than an real estate investor that did the same thing?

In both instances, the people made a bad investment that the government will now be bailing out.

If the flipper’s houses are foreclosed and flood the market it will be just as damaging as if the primary residences are foreclosed and flood the market, won’t it?

With the exception of people that have lost their jobs and can no longer afford their homes, I don’t feel sorry for any of these people. Don’t live beyond your means….and, if you’re really financially smart, don’t live right up to the edge of your means either. If you’re investing, make sure that your profit is built into your deal.

JadeNYU on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

So, in a nutshell, if you were responsible and got a mortgage you could afford and paid your bills, you will be punished by having your money taken by force, and given as a reward to those who were irresponsible, or broke the law by getting a mortgage they were not qualified for. Brilliant.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

So sayeth Karl Marx.

BobMbx on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

My car is currently worth less than the loan I have out on it.

Can someone help me out? Gubmint?

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

That’s exactly what Jonah Goldberg wrote about in the link up-thread.

carbon_footprint on February 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Being able to pay one’s mortgage is only part of the problem as I see it. These folks also can’t afford the up keep of these houses. Yes, pay your mortgage, even your taxes–but if you can’t afford the painter, the plumber, the electrician, the roofer et al then that house is going to plummet in value no matter how much that pretender we have in the WH doles out, it won’t make a difference over the long term. Even doing it yourself requires some cash and considerable expertise, which if these folks had, they’d probably have made enough money to afford their homes in the first place. It’s a no win situation. Save the home for now only to have it be worth nothing later.

jeanie on February 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM

So stopping payments on my mortgage since Obama was elected is a good thing or a bad thing?

ihasurnominashun on February 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Anyways, “market slides”. Really? Yesterday it was down like 3%, today it’s only .25% – so its an improvement.

Yay!

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM

So, as I’m sure the network news will report tonight, Obama saved 2.75% of the market’s value today! Or, to put it another way, he reduced the market’s losses by a whopping 83% in a single day! Dear God, the man really *is* an economic genius!

Wall Street Journal headline, circa 2010: Dow Jones Industrial Average Sinks Below 3,000

MSNBC lead story on the same day: Obama Economic Plan Creates Or Saves 3,000 Points of Market Value

Doctor Zero on February 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Obama isn’t interested in creating jobs for anyone but his peeps. He wants the markets/rich to suffer. He wants to loan to the same people who shouldn’t have been loaned to in the first place. HE’S LOVING THIS, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS HIM TO SIEZE MORE POWA!

marklmail on February 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Lorien, I don’t think it’s Government’s job, but if they’re spending $75B on the problem, I would at least want it to FIX said problem ;-)

hawksruleva on February 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM

That’s interesting.

It assumes it can fix it.

lorien1973 on February 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Community Reinvestment Act II………..

………… see how well it worked out the first time?

We are so screwed, I’m just going to start drinking and putting my hand out for the cash……

Seven Percent Solution on February 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM

And with the stimulus, ACORN now has a capital infusion to begin the “no foreclosure” extortions.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/18/acorn-and-obama-together-again/

BuckeyeSam on February 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM

He couldn’t even wait 24 hours before borrowing more?

Chuck Schick on February 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM

I hope the refi option is available for more people than just those “under water”. There amy be thousands of people if not a million or so who might take their house off the market and reduce inventory if they could knock their rate down to 3% or 4%. Say you bought a $400,000 house at 7%, dropping the rate would save about $750 a month. Instant stimulus. Even on my modest home, if I can get a reduction from 6.5% to 4% I’d save about $360 a month which is a car payment if I’m looking to buy a new car.

cadams on February 18, 2009 at 1:55 PM

The DJIA is down approximately 25% just since Election Day. The market does not like Obamanomics.

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Obama rolled out an actual plan to have the government force refinancing and lower payments for mortgage holders under water.

Let me translate that. He plans on loaning more money to people who have no way to pay it back.

TrickyDick on February 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM

And with the stimulus, ACORN now has a capital infusion to begin the “no foreclosure” extortions

Ah…how far we’ve come.

It’s no longer 40 acres and a mule. Now it’s 4000 sq. ft. and an SUV.

Progress.

BobMbx on February 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM

The DJIA is down approximately 25% just since Election Day. The market does not like Obamanomics.

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Have a look at the chart from July 1976 through January 1981. I sense a major deja vu.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM

I blame HGTV and “Trading Spaces.”

Gottafang on February 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Me thinks,’Joe the Plumber’ had it right!

If he owned a company,equalization would be applied!

Oh crap,after the Liberal housing(Social Engineering)
debauckle,

that will probably be the next target!

All business’s,companys will get a revamping of ‘Brand
New’ rules for employee hirings!

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I am at this moment awaiting a response from Wells Fargo (my mortgage bank) to the letter I sent earlier today to please send all correspondence and payment instructions to the White House. I heard that the Obama Menstruation was going to take care of the mortgage mess, and that I needn’t worry.

BobMbx on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Great idea… if we ALL changed the billing address of ALL OF OUR BILLS to the White House, taht’d be pretty cool

Note to responsible people – be sure to have an auto bill-pay setup or something since your crap is your responsibility

Note to irresponsible people a.k.a. obamabots – go spend some more – afterall, your crap is everyone else’s responsibility to pay for and you deserve it

gatorboy on February 18, 2009 at 2:00 PM

If the people getting bailed out had sold the houses in a better market would I have gotten a cut of the profit?
NO f#%$#@#g way.
So why should I help any of them now.
This is just another way to take from winners and give it to stupid losers.

ouldbollix on February 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM

This is a monumentally bad idea, which will further destabilize the housing market.

But it is going to have massive populist appeal. There are plenty of people out there – myself included – who are upset that they can’t qualify for relief right now.

Take my situation: My wife and I bought our first house in 2004. Believe it or not, we could actually afford our house. We’ve made all of our payments on time. And our house is now worth about 65-70% of what we paid for it.

Our mortgage company is presently “renegotiating” mortgages for people who are having trouble paying their bills. When I asked about it, I was rejected because I’ve made my payments.

More than one person has encouraged me to simply stop paying my mortgage so that I can qualify for relief. I won’t do that. It’s wrong.

To me it’s tremendously unfair that people like me who meet my responsibilities are punished while those who shirk them are rewarded. The world is upside down…

Doug from Clovis on February 18, 2009 at 2:01 PM

Has there ever been a worse first month for a President in American history? In my view there has not.

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Hey….O’Bummers only been in office for about a mounth.
Of course he spent 2 years telling everybody what he was going to do before he got there.
He’s just too green …. he hasn’t learned the ropes yet.
Give him time… seven lies a months not bad. Opps eight.
sar/off

My house is bought and paid for. Now I get to pay for someone elses house in higher taxes.

samhill on February 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM

How does one get the money?

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Create a shell business that will generate a ‘loan’ to yourself for more than your house is worth, but set up the contract so you don’t have to make any principal payments. Pay yourself for the interest portion and then claim you can’t make the payments. The Govt should then step in and give you a low interest bailout you can flip into a higher interest CD (hopefully tax advantaged). When it matures pay off the Govt loan and pocket the difference…

I really should work in banking…

Bunsin on February 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM

A Gilbert woman, with a sign that said, “Fund bikini wax now,” said she is entitled to the beauty treatment. “It’s a self-esteem issue and hygiene issue, which makes it a health care issue, I think we’re all entitled,” said the woman in jest

Where do I sign up for my stimulus bikini wax?

Knucklehead on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

How do you bail out the bailout mentality?

/Therein lies the rub.

Christien on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Doesn’t Obama ever wonder why the market tanks every time he opens his mouth? No . . . I don’t suppose he has even noticed the relationship.

rplat on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

We’re catering to all of society’s losers now.

And by the way, Obama WANTS the marked to tank. It shows the uninformed, ill-informed, mal-informed minions just how bad capitalism really is.

rivlax on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Whats a revolution without dancing?

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM

And unicorns!

hawkdriver on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

BHO didn’t have the worshipful reception here that he hoped for:
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135640

jgapinoy on February 18, 2009 at 1:42 PM

That was sweeeet! I’ve forwarded it to everyone I know. Just wish I could’ve been there!

tru2tx on February 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Has there ever been a worse first month for a President in American history? In my view there has not.

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 2:02 PM

William Henry Harrison had a bad first month.

WashJeff on February 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Community Reinvestment Act 2

Seven Percent Solution on Feb 18,2009 at 1:50PM.

Seven Percent Solution: Just wait till Maxine Waters
gets her way with the Energy
Sector!

This administration is just
getting started!:)

canopfor on February 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Another key component would specifically help those said to be “under water” — with dwellings whose market value have sunk below the principal still owed on the mortgages. Such mortgages have traditionally been almost impossible to refinance. But the White House said its program will help 4 million to 5 million families do just that — if their mortgages are owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

Ok, now we’re getting somewhere! How do I tell if my mortgage is owned or guaranteed by Fannie or Freddie?

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM

William Henry Harrison had a bad first month.

WashJeff on February 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Yeah, but it was bad only for him, not everyone else.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Should I stop paying my mortgage and declare that I am “under water” and need lower monthly payments?

awake on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

The DJIA is down approximately 25% just since Election Day. The market does not like Obamanomics.

Edouard on February 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Obamanomics in a nutshell: pointing a gun at the empty crib of taxpayers yet to be born and shouting “Stick em up!”

Doctor Zero on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Forgot to credit my previous post:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29256639/

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM

How do I tell if my mortgage is owned or guaranteed by Fannie or Freddie?

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Well, if your mortgage is subprime, you are a lock.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Yeah, but it was bad only for him, not everyone else.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

The question was for a President. Oh well, I tried.

WashJeff on February 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Obama is running a Chicago-style racket from the inside for Acorn. Nice.

econavenger on February 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Should I stop paying my mortgage and declare that I am “under water” and need lower monthly payments?

awake on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

I don’t think you need to stop or be behind. Under water means you are paying more than its worth, I think.

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM

Should I stop paying my mortgage and declare that I am “under water” and need lower monthly payments?

awake on February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM

If you get it, please send me a thank you letter at least.

WashJeff on February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

President Government is in the house!

JAM on February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Well, if your mortgage is subprime, you are a lock.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM

No, it’s not. we have made all payments, still have jobs, just my house is worth much less than the mortgage balance. Sounds like I’m “under water”, so I only need to know how to find out if it is owned or guaranteed by Fannie or Freddie. I guess it wouldn’t be owned or guaranteed by them unless I was in trouble in some way other than my house ain’t worth crap.

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Heard that some folks have purposely quit paying their mortgages, even while still being able to afford it, just to enter foreclosure. Then they can await govt money to bail them out, thus saving themselves scads of mula in the meantime. What a trip – this age of the annointed one & entitlements is killing my spirit.

Ris4victory on February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

The true Messiah could only raise people from the dead. The modern Messiah goes one step further-he can resurrect the living.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

Now we know what it’s like to live in an Obama Economy. Thanks you 52%ers. Thanks a lot.

t.ferg on February 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM

This really pisses me off. My husband and I had to wait 17 years before we could afford a house. And we both have college degrees and a VA loan. I had to wait until I could afford one, and I was responsible enough to buy one I could afford at a fixed rate.

If I’d have known all this was going to happen, well, I would have “structured things differently”…including paying off our student loans and medical bills, would have bought new cars every year instead of every 10 (that’s right, my car is 11 years old, hubby has a new truck and his 21 year old truck has been relegated to a “work” truck status)…

To quote that sage, Charlie Brown: “I can’t stand it, I just can’t stand it.”

ladyingray on February 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Perhaps I was wrong in thinking Peggy Joseph is a naive person…

elderberry on February 18, 2009 at 2:11 PM

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