New AG Holder: When it comes to race, America is a “nation of cowards”
posted at 4:00 pm on February 18, 2009 by Allahpundit
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So saith the first black Attorney General, appointed by the black president we cowardly Americans just elected — which, last time I checked, is one more than any European country’s ever elected — during a speech honoring America’s officially recognized Black History Month. The key bit comes about a minute in. There’s nothing shocking about this, unless it’s how pedestrian it is. It’s the same old nonsense about having an “honest” conversation on race, which typically means agreeing root and branch with the leftist position on any policy issue that touches that subject (e.g., illegal immigration) on penalty of being called a racist. The boss notes the irony of Holder uncorking this on a day when “civil rights leader” Al Sharpton is demagoging the hell out of the New York Post for an innocent cartoon, but there’s an irony even more sublime here: Obama himself did everything he could to avoid race during the campaign — aside from the occasional insinuation that McCain’s a bigot — until the Wright uproar forced his hand. He could have used his platform to push the issue front and center but he decided he’d rather get elected. Holder owes his job to that, ahem, cowardice.
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Blacks have done real good in Africa that has been in “black” control… Maybe it IS genetic…
Mark Garnett on February 19, 2009 at 10:18 AM
So, someone saying ,“yeah I was kind of scared of this black guy this one time”, is racist?
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:18 AM
*sigh* did you not read my post?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:19 AM
This is what I mean. It’s not just that you’re being totally racist, but your coy, passive aggressive pretense that you don’t already believe that insults my intelligence. Though since I’m black my genetic lack of intelligence probably can’t be insulted right?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Yes, and I repeated your quote.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM
The person I’m referencing certainly thought it was racist, which was the basis of our chat about race and the fears we have and where those fears come from etc. etc. But his “racism” wasn’t really an indictment of his character because he was willing to think critically about what his fear actually meant and what it reflected, a reality about the inherent danger of black men or the reality of powerful negative stereotypes about black men. That intellectual process is the key.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Boo hoo.
Do you want to have an honest discussion, or not? If so, name the best black-run countries (as there are very many black-run countries in the world – more than white-run, frankly), so we can all have a look at them. This is a legitimate question, is it not?
And your confusion between group characteristics and individuals from the group shows an amazing lack of understanding. But that’s no surprise, seeing how twisted your thinking is on most topics.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Holder Sir you are a racist of the frist order.You should go find a rock to crawl under.
thmcbb on February 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM
If a person has a certain inclination, he can find racism in anything anyone says. Or, sexism as in my “correct” use of the pronoun “he”.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:31 AM
The truth is that white America, especially white Republicans are cowards when it comes to race. If they weren’t afraid of being called RACISTS, they would have gone after Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae as the main causes for our economic problems today. That’s the cowardice that exists in the USA today. The fear of being called a racist. It’s time that fear ends, and we call a spade a spade.
afotia on February 19, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I fear no one; black, white, brown, yellow or red. Race plays no part.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM
So … what sort of “racism” does Jesse suffer from?
“There is nothing more painful to me … than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
– Jesse Jackson
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I am not racist. Our family Cadillac dealership has a long standing and respectfull relationship with the Brothers.
If Holder comes for service, he will be treated like a King. MLK or other
seven on February 19, 2009 at 10:39 AM
So are you saying you are not at all racist? And never have been?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Is the “Death” in you name rhetorical or literal ?
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM
LOL that is your favorite quote you’ve said it like 10 times in this thread. I’m curious, what do you think that it proves? What’s the context for the quote, is it part of a speech, if do you have the full text. Was it part of an interview, if so have read the full transcript. Was it part of a book chapter, if so have you read the whole thing.
This is what Holder’s saying. You think the topic of racism is about a zero sum game. “If I can find a sentence that suggests Jesse Jackson had a racist thought then all other racism in the world dissapears because we’re all the same.” That’s a cowardly and, again, passive aggressive way to approach the topic. I’ll ask you the same question:
Are you saying you are not at all racist? And never have been?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:44 AM
So what have I said that makes you think that I am a racist.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:45 AM
Wow, really. Well I dont know if thats admirable or stupid, I fear anyone in a back alley in a big city at 2:30 in the morning. I definitely fear the police. I fear like crazy people with guns, I don’t know why you’ve gone to this unrealistic place were you have “no fear.” You’re so…silly.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:46 AM
I didn’t make an accusation, I asked a question. Answer it or not.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:47 AM
So now I am a “silly” racist?
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 10:48 AM
I keep posting it because you keep ignoring it – as you just did, again. Do you want to engage in an honest discussion, or not – I ask once again? If so, then address Jesse’s quote, since it fits EXACTLY in with your blathering about racist prejudices.
“What is the context for the quote?” … LOL. I’ll tell you what, I’ll let you make up the best context you can think of. Now, let’s hear your analysis of it, finally, and what Jesse meant by it.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 10:48 AM
So you admit that you’re just seeing this as a zero sum game then. Congrats you found a quote that suggests Jesse is afraid of black men.
Now what do you think it proves.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Hack:
I believe that you have prooved your racism and you can stop digging now.
Vince on February 19, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I never called you a racist. Your “I fear no man” comment was silly.
You just don’t get it. You’re fixated on the label racist. What exactly does being labelled or identifying as a racist do to you. How does it hurt you. Why is it so damaging to you? Why won’t you simply answer the question yes or no. Are you a racist?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Huh? You’re just babbling incoherently, now.
You tell me, since you are so quick to tell everyone else what their lines prove about them.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Uh thanks for the advice. I do think it’s kind of hilarious how you keep proving Holder’s argument. I’m talking about race and that means I’m “proving my racism.” Which is an attempt to get the conversation on race ended. You didnt have a problem when post after post detailed what was wrong with black people in this country. But the minute someone says “hold up” THEN we’re proving racism. LOL Ah the tactics of the right, they never change.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I already told you why I think you post that Jesse Jackson quote. Because you believe it absolves everyone of racism because it looks like Jesse Jacksons afraid of black men.
Now if I’m wrong, then say so and tell me what YOU think the quote proves since you obsessively post it. Or did you just post it because it made your fingers feel nice to press Ctrl+V
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM
If you don’t know what “zero sum” means then…we have bigger problems.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:56 AM
You are either racist or you are an underachiever looking for an excuse to forgive yourself. Get over yourself and find some way to make your life better. There are many resources for you to use.
Sound condesending? Like you?
Vince on February 19, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Uh….OK. I can’t really respond if you’re just going to imagine a version of me and lob insults at that. But enjoy if itmakes you feel good.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:59 AM
I feel good!
Vince on February 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM
I am sick of people who accuse me of racism because I didnt vote for Obama. I could care less about race…its his policies. Nation of cowards, my a$$.
Now Al Sharpton is raising hell over that chimp cartoon? It was fine when they compared Bush to a chimp..when they compared Condi Rice to Aunt Jemima…total double standard.
becki51758 on February 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
When did I ask you to explain why I posted that? Find where I asked that.
The question is what it says about Jesse, not what I believe is makes Jesse “look like”. You get all squishy on this point, but you were so sure about about the lines everyone else posted. Why is that?
I didn’t post it to prove anything to you, but to hear your assessment of Jesse’s racism (against blacks and for whites) the same way you have been so cavalier about making such determinations about myself and most others on this thread. I’m still waiting to hear your assessment of JESSE’s line and what it says about JESSE and his racist attitudes. …..
Then you can throw in your list of the best black-run countries (since you took such offense to that line of debate, too).
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I know exactly what it means. Your misuse of it shows that you don’t.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM
How about this: I don’t want to talk about race all the time. I don’t want to make my complexion an issue every time I socialize with someone whose ancestors were born on a different continent than the one my ancestors were born on. Also, I don’t think about race all the time. I don’t try to infer some socio-political subtext into every encounter I have with someone who doesn’t look exactly like me. IF that makes me a coward, then I guess I’m a coward. But unlike Al Sharpton, I don’t automatically think of black people when I see a cartoon picture of a chimp.
patriette on February 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM
The reason I distinguish between what it says “about” Jesse vs what it makes Jesse “look like” is that it’s a tiny snippet of what I imagine is a long interview about the subject of race in this country. I also imagine that Jesse is talking about the pervasiveness of negative stereotypes and that they don’t just penetrate white minds, but can penetrate ALL of our minds. But I have to imagine that because I haven’t read the whole interview.
But this is starting to make sense. Racist people take the acts of some in a group and ascribe them to all and say “case closed.” You have taken a snippet of a Jackson quote and are trying to make some argument about Jesse Jackson as a whole, with that quote. The same intellectual process that justifies racism. At least you are consistent.
You really want to have a whole discussion about African colonialism? Really?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM
I am sure that you do not know about the culture of the Germans that moved to Texas in the 1800’s. Many were killed because they would not fight in the war between the states, because of the confederate’s stand on slavery. My grandparents were indentured servents.
I do not look at a person by the color of their skin. My daughter in-law is Mexican, and my other daughter in-law is ____(she say that she is American). No I am not a racist, but I had rather show it by deeds, rather than words.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Same here!!!! Why do we need to talk about race?
oh…and are mothers who abort so many black babies considered racist?
becki51758 on February 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM
This is another thing that alot of people do that is incredibly wierd and off putting. They assume having to EVER talk about race is having to talk about it “all the time.” Here’s the deal, if you’re a white person and you have non-white friends have you ever hung out with them around their family or in a majority, non-white, situation.
Come back to me when you have. My white friends who I’m very tight with have all been exposed to that kind of stituation and one of two things happened:
1. They acted like they always do and were no different. We never had to “talk” about race, because their behavior exhibited they 100% did not care.
2. They were uncomfortable, but were willing to be like “I didnt realize how uncomfortable I’d be” and then we talk about it and MOVE ON. It’s with those people I tend to make alot of jokes with about race because we’ve already had our uncomfortable moment and that’s that. It’s kind of like when you fight with a friend in grade school and then become friends afterwards, though thats a crude analogy.
The white people I tend to not be friends with are those who are clearly uncomfortable in non-white situations and they are not the people I met in majority white situations. They are uncomfortable or like start dropping really awkward slang or bring up music that I had no clue they even listened to or are real nervous and in general wierd. And then they pretend like nothing was different. I just can’t deal with passive aggressive people like that. I suspect there are a lot of those types of folks in this thread. No more racist than anyone else, just 100% immature and childish and defensive about their racism.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM
It does not bother me a bit to be called a racist, I just consider the source.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 11:14 AM
DeadMedia,
I admire your attempts to duck and weave around anything that makes you uncomfortable. They are transparent and silly, but I admire the effort, anyway.
Sheesh … Go back as far into history as you want. I’ll let you go all the way back to the Nubians, if you want. Just a little list would be nice, though.
And the US, Australia, India, … were all colonized, too. So what? Colonization allowed nations to see how the modern world worked and gave them access to info they would have never gotten on their own. What did those nations do with that information? Many, many nations were taken over by outsiders all through history. They still emerged and organized themselves. Your excuses are getting pretty pathetic.
I see that you have very little interest in an honest conversation. Nothing new, which is why I usually don’t bother engaging in these fruitless talks.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Congrats. I am familiar with anti-slavery sentiment among southern German and jewish families in the antebellum era. The degree on my office door kind of requires me to know these things.
So what explains your strongly anti-black postings?
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM
You’re using India, one of the dirtiest, poorest, most disgusting places on earth as evidence of how much better some people did post colonialism. You also know that Pakistan is a legacy of colonialism as well right? Hmmm Communist China we’re saying that’s evidence of the greatness of colonialism now too? LOL Have you been to Vietnam lately? Another colonialism success story. You win! Colonialism leaves behind the building blocks for stable, economically prosperous, democratic states. Hurrah!
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM
You have a degree posted on your office door? Is that to let everyone know that you are black and educated?
Vince on February 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Quit humping my leg man.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Thanks, Death, for assuming — wrongly, I might add — that I have never hung out in a majority non-white situation. My point wasn’t that I object to talking about race — obviously I’m doing so now — but that I object to the grievance-mongering that requires it to be a constant elephant in the room. People like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and AG Holder make it their entire raison d’etre to infer racialism into every aspect of public discourse. I refuse to live my life that way.
Just like you refuse to hang out with tools who act differently when they suddenly find themselves in a racial minority, I refuse to make race the theme of every inter-racial encounter I have.
patriette on February 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Yes, it did. What those societies did with the building blocks is what is being addressed. Of course, for societies that didn’t even have writing before being colonized, it is very difficult to argue that they should not have benefitted greatly from being left with one of the most important advances on Earth – to name one simple example.
You are just too ridiculous to carry on with. I’ve had quite enough.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM
Then we’re one in the same.
Now you’re being intellectually dishonest. Eric Holder has made dozens, if not hundreds of public appearances and talked on many many topics in his career. This is the only time I’ve heard him really talk about race in a substantive way and it was for black history month, so the occasion was appropriate.
As for Jackson and Sharpton. They are no different than Falwell or Robertson. They are one issue political ideologues and have built their careers around issues of race/religion. I don’t really see why one is objectionable and one is not.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Yup I’d say you have. Eric Holder 50 POP 0
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:34 AM
I’m what you would consider a living breathing suspect. 20 something, slim, black guy. Tall, dark skinned with dreads(locs if you wanna be pc). I’m a bit of a racist towards blacks and any other race quite frankly, I cling to my guns, and I have antipathy toward those who are unlike me no matter the race. My 20 + years of experience here in Newark NJ is that the hood is dangerous in many ways. Death and jail are the daily enemy that looms weather your culpible or not. The truth is the socio economics are the main factor in our concrete jungle. Its capitalist at its core, yet dependant on socialist handouts which are basically gained through intimidation on many fronts. We have a false sense of entitlement in da hood but only the truly educated capitalize and prosper.
The truth is we are all racist in America. We aren’t that far removed from segregation, and black folks are still in victim mode. The quiet majority of us work hard and play by the rules, yet use the race card only when its beneficial.
As far as holder, he’s just doing his part in keeping the folks agitated. Typical Saul Alinsky method.
Anyway I’m new here on Hot Air via blackberry and I’m looking forward to offering the inner city community college viewpoint here. God Bless.
hiphopconservative on February 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM
One of the problems with truly open dialogue is that many blacks refuse to acknowledge some general(not universal) truths even when they come from one of their own such as Bill Cosby. If a white person dares say it he is shouted down as racist. Not saying that racism, to a degree, does not exist in the white community but am saying that much of the black community seems unable or unwilling to change some damaging behaviors and values. If that’s racist(and I’m sure it will be interpreted as such by Death for example–whom I had not heard was black? Did I miss something or did this just surface for the purposes of enhanced creds?)I’m offerring no apologies for my somewhat gentle(I think) lack of cowardice. Eric should be proud.
jeanie on February 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Been call worse by better.
Hazmat on February 19, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Wow…you and Death should have an epic errr…well…deathmatch! Glad you are both here.
ClassicCon on February 19, 2009 at 11:43 AM
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM
You are an idiot.
India is by every measurable variable in a better condition than any state in Africa. At one point Southern Rhodesia would have provided the anamoly, but that is (obviously) no longer the case. Thanks Mugabe!
PimFortuynsGhost on February 19, 2009 at 11:49 AM
1. You might have a point about lumping Holder in with Sharpton and Jackson, although the whole “Americans are cowards” about race comment suggests to me that he’s just as much a racialist demagogue as they are. But I will cede the point to you that I don’t know enough about Holder to put him in quite the same class.
2. Stop setting up false dichotomies and red herrings. No one has mentioned, much less defended, Falwell and Robertson. Now who’s being intellectually dishonest?
patriette on February 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Read up on Tanzania and then get back to me. Ghana isn’t doing too horribly either.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I’d say any honest assesment of the differing ways the right/left react to Sharpton and Jackson vs. Robertson and Falwell reveals that people tend to be OK with demagoguing and hucksterism as long as it goes along with their side.
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 12:04 PM
You do seem to be overly concerned with color, or at least shades of color.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 12:05 PM
F**k you, Holder.
And Hussein as well.
madmonkphotog on February 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Death,
What you said about India is nothing more than a racial slur unsubstantiated by facts. Why do you hate Southern Asians so much.
Racist.
PimFortuynsGhost on February 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM
You are truly welcomed, Sir, and wise beyond your years/.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 12:10 PM
I thought Eric wanted this to be about frank discussion, not which nations are poorer or whose knowledge of history is better. To me, what Holder said seemed to be referencing white lack of honesty on this issue. Perhaps, he meant both races, but he did not make that clear. Had he, I might not resent him as much as I do at the moment. I HONESTLY and truly do not resent any black person who shares my value system to some degree.In fact, I have found when in the company of middle class blacks, it is THEY who quietly but firmly ostracize me. There now Eric, I’ve tried for real honesty again.
jeanie on February 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Why do we have black history month? Is it right for CONGRESS to tell us what holidays we should have? Let the free market decide. Let the people that believe in BHS celebrate it and let those that don’t give a damn ignore it. It’s not a government issue, AT ALL.
The new AG is nothing but a race baiting jackass.
Libertarian Joseph on February 19, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Everyone seems to want to go where they are comfortable and that has got little to do with race.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Holder just looks like somebody who would play the dad on an 80s sitcom
joey24007 on February 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/06/21/section-8-housing-crime-correlated-expect-media-indifference
Aggie95 on February 19, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Very interesting, especially since turning down prospective Section 8 tenants earns one a quick trip to court and legal/financial problems that go on for years and years. Renting to them is often far worse.
People have been backed into a social engineering corner and this society is going to collapse and make the harm that these same idiotic policies caused our monetary/economic systems look like child’s play.
progressoverpeace on February 19, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Like I said, you’re being intellectually dishonest. Address my point rather than falling back on the vague, utterly unsubstantiated “people” who “tend” to be ok with demagoguery on the right.
And since we’re neither defending nor objecting to Falwell or Robertson, stop the obfuscation and stay on topic.
This discussion is about racial, not religious, demagoguery. The existence of one does not excuse the other.
patriette on February 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM
Ahh. Do you smell it in the wind?
Race wars.
Badger40 on February 19, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Holder just looks like somebody who would play the dad on an 80s sitcom
joey24007 on February 19, 2009 at 12:33 PM
I think he looks like Det. Harris (Ron Glass) from Barney Miller.
But he’s still a jerk.
kingsjester on February 19, 2009 at 12:51 PM
That sentiment is really great coming from the man in charge of a vast Federal bureaucratic apparatus in charge of persecuting, prosecuting, and destroying any white person, or any company, that does in fact have an “honest” conversation about race. Make a hundred flowers bloom, so you can cut their heads off.
Nice, but no thanks.
HammerToss on February 19, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Swiss Banks are being forced to reveal the names of their American clients who have avoided paying taxes …… wonder if any in the new administration will be on the list of reported 19,000 tax dodgers …… wonder if our new sec treas is concerned
Aggie95 on February 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I can’t go as far as deathtomediahacks but I feel where he comin from. The problem with the debate in America is that we are so PC that its impossible to not offend people anymore! Truth is, race baiting is big business and its roll with it or get rolled over.
Michael Steele should lead the anti race baiting movement, and give a voice to the many of us who play by the rules. Fight fire with fire. For every racism chant, there should be a response with evidence of progress.
hiphopconservative on February 19, 2009 at 12:57 PM
BTW-Just perused all the comments swirling around Deathtomediahacks-
I would like to stick my 2 cents in about racial opinions:
I am a white woman & have grown up all over the US in different situations regarding race.
When I look at people of different races, their differences are automatically noted. But my mind doesn’t automatically hearken to the racial stereotype. It never has.
My experience in racial matters from So CAL, to E. TX, to S. TX to WA to IN to NM to IL to OH to VA to NY to ND ,SD and back and forth in between is this:
Minority racial groups overwhelmingly segregate themselves from white population when given a chance.
Tolerance from these groups toward whites (me) varied geographically.
I cannot tell you how many times in my 39 years I have been discriminated against in various ways by blacks & hispanics in particular.
I have been called filthy names by both groups just by walking by them.
I have been harassed in the workplace.
I have been harassed in school & in public.
And this all happened while I was minding my own business.
When I see a black man approach me in the street, I take no notice, unless he’s dressed like a delinquent. I also take notice of a white guy, hispanic guy, etc who is dressed like a delinquent.
I make a judgment of a person based on how they physically are presenting themselves, as well as their physical outward behavior.
I have never been accused of racism to my face, but many racial groups have been racist to me.
So I find all this race-baiting very interesting to say the least.
Badger40 on February 19, 2009 at 1:03 PM
assuming he could figure out how to fill out the forms….
Red State State of Mind on February 19, 2009 at 1:12 PM
When you’re a hammer, every problem is a nail.
When you’re a racist, every propblem is due to racism.
karl9000 on February 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM
DeathToMediaHacks — the only person with a gun you have to fear is a person with bad intent. I know dozens of folks personally who obey the law and legally carry a gun on their hip or in their purse everyday — and they are not members of law enforcement and some of them are – gasp!- black! (emphasis /sarc)
I don’t fear the police because I obey the law. I don’t fear people in back alleys at 2:30am because I am not stupid enough to be on the streets at that hour…
As to Jesse’s statement, could he just have been agreeing with the statistics, that the majority of violent crimes in this country are committed by blacks? Isn’t it reasonable to be more concerned when you are being followed closely by someone who fits the profile of the most likely criminal in America? That isn’t racism, it’s just practical. BTW, two of the three times I’ve been attacked in my life were by blacks — in 1974 I was threatened with a knife in beautiful McLean, Virgina, and 1966 in Anacostia, Maryland I was grabbed by the hair and thrown to the ground as I walked into church on a sunny Sunday morning.) Also, my husband (who is white) was systematically sought out and beaten to a pulp several times for being a smart white kid in high school in south Florida by groups of older black students. They thought it was funny to beat up the coaches son.
I am not a racist, and in the context of my evolved sense of equality, I will freely point out and discuss the realities of living as a white southern ‘transplant’, of being aggressively, physically harmed by blacks, and the predatory nature of some people, regardless of their color or their economic disadvantages. I have and will also freely discuss the blatant racism I have observed here in the south, both on the part of whites and blacks. Point is, I don’t care what your color is…just obey the law, get an education, get a job, and treat people with the respect they deserve.
We are all in the business of sizing up the folks we meet. It’s called discriminatory behavior (neurologically) and serves the primal purpose of self preservation and has nothing to do with racism. This natural behavior becomes problematic when we rely on these primitive and necessary tendencies for more than superficial interaction (avoiding predators). And, as Jesse Jackson pointed out, it is also hard to resist this natural tendency to ’size people up’ when national crime statistics support our conclusions.
LEBA on February 19, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Barry is losing all of his rich supporters with the Swizz bank fiasco. Also this housing revolution is taking shape. Typical un intended cobsequences. Even the local drug trade in the community is feeling the Obama sting.
hiphopconservative on February 19, 2009 at 1:27 PM
My experience mirrors yours. I’ve lived in CA, MO, VA, MD, MI, SC and have traveled to nearly every state in the union and have been marginalized for being a white female many times. I noted my specific experience of being assaulted, above, but the subtle way in which blacks in the south demonstrate an “I deserve” attitude is particularly sickening and pervasive….
LEBA on February 19, 2009 at 1:32 PM
I really do perceive this as quite an insult. I don’t like being shoved into a mass collective group that thinks this way or that. I’m an individual. You are all individuals. If we as individuals didn’t have unique minds, would there have ever been a Mozart? Mr. Holder seems to think that we’re all thinking the same out here in the public, that we all think of other ethnic groups the same way. I don’t look at my coworker or my neighbor and think, oh he/she is black. I see them as people first? Yes, I know they are different in ethnicity, but thats a beautiful thing, no? Holder apparently does not grasp the concept that the respect of the American people is to be earned; it is not an automatic response to him being selected for his position. Throughout the speech, he talks about blacks. Don’t know if he mentioned it or not, since I couldn’t take watching it past 2 minutes, but what about Muslims? Did he mention them? His job is to represent the American people in legal affairs and law enforcement. As such, perhaps his statements should be tempered to promote us all getting along, rather than to focus on division.
fullogas on February 19, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Consequences*
+1 LEBA
hiphopconservative on February 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM
OH. And to Holder’s comment about American’s being cowards…BO would not be president if a certain voting group had not blindly cast their ballots based solely on race…a blatant act of cowardice.
LEBA on February 19, 2009 at 1:35 PM
I see it in Columbus,OH, where I graduated HS, too.
My HS buddy still lives there & it’s absolutely SHOCKING how much he hates blacks. He is a racist in the biggest way one can imagine.
And his anger is stoked every day he mingles in the public.
I can’t talk any sense to him on it bcs he’s got a lot of arguments & experience that help prove his point.
It truly saddens me to see a person reduced to that.
Badger40 on February 19, 2009 at 1:38 PM
I was raised in a wonderful home where the ‘n’ word might as well have been a slight against God, Himself. Despite my early experiences of being threatend and attacked, my parents taught me to forgive and rise above the behavior of others and show kindness instead. When I came to the south as an adult, from CA, I was shocked at the ‘reverse’ racism that no one was willing to talk about. Is this the open discussion Holder wants us all to have? Because if it is, hold on to your hats!
LEBA on February 19, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Can we say spade?
Oink on February 19, 2009 at 1:51 PM
We know who the cowards are
notagool on February 19, 2009 at 1:55 PM
And another thing… way to go, telling us we all suck.
fullogas on February 19, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Rush made some good points. The fact that we don’t have to speak about race in our daily lives, shows its not as out there as some people suggest.
Politically its time to unveil the left and expose the racist comments, and policies.
Holder might get what he’s asking for afterall.
hiphopconservative on February 19, 2009 at 2:41 PM
DeathToMediaHacks on February 19, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I was just wondering if you “talked white.”
Do you?
Otis B on February 19, 2009 at 2:46 PM
I am sick to death of this BULLSHIT..
How about this..
Go to the arab countries (who still enslave africans)
and why dont you go try to make them pay reperations..
this is really what he wants
Obama and this CREEP arent satisifed with just destroying the entire country no no
they want to so bankrupt it that it will take 100 years and our great grand childrens entire payroll just to pay for their so called injustices..
I am sorry i never enslaved anyone
neither did my parents or grand parents
So i am NOTY paying one God damn dime..
Screw you ..
jcila on February 19, 2009 at 3:15 PM
holder is right on,
but for all the wrong reasons Im sure.
The vast ammount of dispensation for Blacks to feel equal has done nothing but cashed their pride in for a measly handout.
Of course they were just being used so tyrants could cement their hold on power.
I wonder who that might be?
Sonosam on February 19, 2009 at 5:13 PM
S
Show me one.
Johan Klaus on February 19, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Racism is an excuse. And a convenient way to make people vote the way the left wants them to vote. The racism that is left in America is not against those of African decent. Reverend Wright proved that. The discussion about race needs to happen between and among blacks in this country and then they need to agree on how they want to be treated, with equality and respect or with pity. When they have that conversation they then can let the rest of us know the consensus and we will all be better off. And we can stop making such a big deal out of a non-issue.
petunia on February 19, 2009 at 6:09 PM
This is a patheically judgemental statement, Death. With little effort you could readily turn up as many blacks who are uncomfortable around majority white social situations. The fact is, when cultures differ significantly, people tend to cluster with others who are like themselves. I likely means little more than that, unless hate or entitlement is fed by the cultures in question. Holder’s comments and your selfrighteous criticism don’t enhance the conversation.
LEBA on February 19, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Rev Wright .. * grin * …. lets see he has a 10,000 sq ft house ….in a gated community….. on a golf course …. in a neighborhood that is 93 % white and has 2 MB to cart his fat ass around ….oh and seems to like bonking white women and this is the man who claims that whitey brought both aids and crack to the black man…. but by God we make damned fine neighbors ……. Has any one else noticed these race huslers never ever keep it real in the hood…. they may visit but as soon as they get a buck …. outa there
Aggie95 on February 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Actually, the genetic view is pretty much limited to liberals and skinheads, those strange bedfellows. Conservatives mostly seem to subscribe to the theory that everyone should be treated the same, and let the idiots fail because of their stupidity, kind of like you do in these threads.
My personal feeling is that it’s hard to insult you because you’re an idiot liberal. I never bothered to wonder how much melanin you had. Who cares? You could be as yellow as jaundice or as white as George Soros, and you’d still be an idiot.
Jaibones on February 19, 2009 at 6:36 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
Aggie95 on February 19, 2009 at 6:42 PM
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