California Republicans oust Senate leader, dig in

posted at 9:37 am on February 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The game of chicken in Sacramento just claimed its first victim, one that has to send a chill down Democratic spines.  Republicans in the state Senate ousted their leader, the man who crafted a deal with Democrats to resolve the budget standoff with massive tax increases as part of the package.  The GOP has apparently accelerated their car, and the Democrats will have to decide whether to swerve or crash:

A state budget deal to close a $41 billion shortfall has been put further into question early this morning after Senate Republicans ousted their leader who had helped negotiate the long-awaited plan with other top lawmakers in California.

The unusual action occurred as Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic lawmakers tried for a fourth night in a row to persuade at least one more Republican senator to cast the deciding vote on the budget, a move officials said is necessary for the state to avoid insolvency.

Speaking to reporters outside his office, the ousted Minority Leader Dave Cogdill, R-Modesto, said, “It’s a shame it ended like this.”

Cogdill was one of the four legislative leaders who negotiated the emergency budget deal with the governor. Their compromise budget package, reached after three months of negotiations, contained nearly $16 billion in program cuts, $11 billion in borrowing and $14.4 billion in tax increases. The most contentious debate has been over the proposed tax hikes.

Republicans selected Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth, R-Murrieta (Riverside County) as their new Minority leader. Hollingsworth is part of the conservative wing of the Senate Republican caucus and he has been adamantly against raising any taxes.

I’d call that a statement.  It certainly sends a message to party leadership that the California GOP will not willingly follow along with more tax increases in a state that already has become one of the worst for tax burdens in the nation.  California did not get into its financial crisis through low taxes, and higher taxes won’t provide anything more than a Band-Aid on a gaping wound.

The budget needs more than just $16 billion in cuts.  California needs a real austerity program, one that sheds government workers and government programs.  The Golden State also needs to stop borrowing money, which comes from the massive spending. How massive?  The governor’s office claims that they have kept spending level at $105 billion per year, but even at that rate, they spend more than 20 times what Minnesota does while only having about six times the population.  (And we spend too much as well; we’re facing a $7 billion biennial budget deficit at the moment.)

Until the legislature gets serious about budget cuts, higher taxes only provide a junkie’s fix to addiction.  The Republicans just signaled a cold-turkey approach, and they’re willing to throw their own leadership under the bus to get it.  They look serious about fixing the real problems.  Will the Democrats get serious, too, or go tharn in the headlights?

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angryed on February 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Great example at to the point! big +1

Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM

How long before a California state judge ORDERS the legislature to raise taxes?

Mark30339 on February 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Worked on a bipartisan proposal for 90 days and one vote short. The gop signed a pledge to not raise taxes .

Tough spot for the gop.

getalife on February 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Mark30339 on February 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

I just wish they were ALWAYS this lazy. Oh, but they’ll probably get around to it eventually.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Everytime CA and other state governments lean on rescue plans like a tax increase they simply address the symptoms and not the cause of their problems. Maybe if it gets bad enough for CA, they will seriously address the immigration issue and the horrendous burden it has placed on CA residents. It will come back over and over until they decide how to appropriately handle it.

This is like an illness. If a person has symptoms, but ignores the root cause or never bothers to find out what it is, that illness comes back. Many times when it does come back, the repercussions are greater and the symptoms mulitiply.

pjean on February 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

I knew that I should have added that disclaimer with the original post. : -/

thomasaur on February 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM

We stopped using “one” and starting using “you” and it occasionally leads to misunderstanding.

“…and “one” is still an idiot.
“…and you’re still an idiot.

Something the English do better than we.

JiangxiDad on February 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

hachiban on February 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM

It really is too bad. I lived in Cali both during and after my military stint and for the most part it was pretty fun.

Then again, I lived in Alameda after discharge and did a lot of work in Oakland, two dumps that I will not miss in the slightest.

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Look, you have to actualy CUT spending… As Rush has pointed out many, many times, when the Congress talks about CUTTING spending, what they actualy “mean” is cuts in the amount of INCREASE!!!

Most programs State and Federal, heck even locally, have BUILT IN increases each year… 2%, 3%, 5% INCREASES… So California keeps spending more and more and more and even when they do “CUT” spending they reduce the % to 1 or 2 instead of 5%… So it’s STILL an INCREASE called a CUT!

Lies, lies and more lies…

Yes, yes, and more yes. If the average person realized the extent by which they are being deceived on a daily basis, incumbency would be a scarce commodity these days.

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

DFCtomm on February 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

A tax revolt is coming soon. Lets start in California..then Kansas..them on and on.

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Throw the bums out! Good job California R’s!

Johnson on February 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Tough spot for the gop.

getalife on February 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Not so tough getalife. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the one lone Republican that has refused to raise taxes caused this state to go into bankruptcy and sent ripples thru-out the world? I’d call this legislator a HERO!

Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Raising taxes……the easy “out”. This strategy is a weak attempt towards a solution.

pjean on February 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM

All of which begs the question Ed, what about Collins, Snowe and Specter?

patrick neid on February 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Not so tough getalife. Wouldn’t it be ironic if the one lone Republican that has refused to raise taxes caused this state to go into bankruptcy and sent ripples thru-out the world? I’d call this legislator a HERO!

It only takes one person to CHANGE the world.

* Hint – It ain’t Barack Obama -
He is the one person that is screwing up the world.

izoneguy on February 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Well, as they say, what starts in California soon moves east. Maybe they learned something from the House GOP’s during the stimulus. The tide may be turning toward a rising of GOP fiscal conservatism. It’s about time!

tnmama on February 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM

California is spending at least $5 Billion a year providing services to people that are breaking the law.

sherryande on February 18,

I’ve read that it is around $12 billion a year. I have also heard the higher figure on talk radio.

conservative educator on February 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM

If your estimate is less than taxes owed by too much, you will be charged a penatly. You will also be charged interest on the amount of the underpayment.

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Yes, but restricting the cash flow is the name of the game, and there are plenty of lawyers that can get you out of penalties. The point is, if 40% of the middle and upper classes merely revised their witholding such that they owed a little bit, instead of giving an interest free loan to the government every year, a shock wave would hit DC.

Vashta.Nerada on February 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Then again, I lived in Alameda after discharge and did a lot of work in Oakland, two dumps that I will not miss in the slightest.

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Bishop,

We are all eternally grateful that you did not end up going to the Rupublic of Berkeley. :)

Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I wonder when it is going to dawn on people that one reason we had such a good period of economic growth in the 1990s was because we had so many fiscally conservative GOP governors who trimmed budgets; lowered taxes; led the way on welfare reform etc. Combine that with a new GOP majority in the U.S. House and we ended up with states in the black and a balanced federal budget.

George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson never had a Republican majority in the legislature but they were able to hold the line on taxes and spending for the most part. Wilson even got the referendum passed to prohibit welfare and state benefits for illegal aliens but the wonderful California Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional. That was probably the beginning of the end for California.

John Engler cut taxes and trimmed the state workforce as Governor of Michigan. He ran surpluses and Michigan had a decent economy even as the automakers were shrinking. Tommy Thompson instituted welfare reform in Wisconsin. Christie Whitman rolled back a tax increase in New Jersey. Jim Gilmore eliminated the car tax in Virginia.

All these states have liberal Democrat governors now and they are running huge deficits and raising taxes.

rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM

One of the bones of contention is that Arnold is having to cancel a bunch of infrastructure projects for lack of funds. But what needs to happen is the state needs to waive all federal environmental review standards which keep such projects tied up in limbo for years, if not decades.

He’s the biggest girly man of all. I knew I had to leave California when he got rid of all his Hummers to appease the True Believers.

ILB on February 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Word of advice to Cali residents: Rangel Rule, baby!!!

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on February 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Techically, CA has a liberal Republican governor.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

That was to Rockmom.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 10:51 AM

For the record, there are no cuts. There are reductions in the rate of increase, but there are no line item budgets that will be less than the previous year’s.

The borrowing and the tax increases, however, are real. And the borrowing will be difficult. California’s bond rating is junk. Capital construction projects were shut down in December by the Cal State University system and the Public Works Board because the rate that bond buyers want is too high. The extra interest payments would make the deficit worse.

InterestedObserver on February 18, 2009 at 10:51 AM

I’ve read that it is around $12 billion a year. I have also heard the higher figure on talk radio.

conservative educator on February 18, 2009 at 10:45 AM

It’s more like between 12 and 20 billion, because of the “creative” government “bookeepers” that pay the bills but list the expense as “other expenditures”.

Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:52 AM

We are all eternally grateful that you did not end up going to the Rupublic of Berkeley. :)
Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Berkeley. We used to go down there to look for chickies, pretending to be sensitive liberal types to get in their clothing, though the haircuts usually gave us away.

Quite the circus town and awesome people watching; a laugh a minute.

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM

All these states have liberal Democrat governors now and they are running huge deficits and raising taxes.

rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM

My points exactly…

Welfare, Illegals, Unions, Waste, Fraud, Corruption, Feel Good Do Nothing Social Programs, Failing Schools, Crime, Liberalisam, Socialisam, Enviro-Wacks… All of these are products of the lazy far left Democrates. It’s a mental disorder, to vote for the same results when you don’t like the results to begin with… WOW! Only in America…

Mark Garnett on February 18, 2009 at 10:55 AM

rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM

+1

As always rockmom, you’re the ROCK of sensability and reality.

Rovin on February 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM

For once I’m actually proud of the CRP. Strange days, indeed.

irishspy on February 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM

“junkie’s fix to addiction”

Nothing is more addictive than other peoples money. You may quote me on that.

Dog

They ARE junkies. And MORONS to boot.

dogsoldier on February 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Hmmm, I lived in California when I still had time in service after Nam with the USMC. and I live in MN now. Mole?…. not me. If anything, I’m here as the recipient of all your invectives about MN and how we’re all idiots, traitors and not suitable for citizenship. Well, I’m here to tell you that even though the left is entrenched, people like me will continue to fight, dirty and often if need be. Funny thing is, guess I and my conservative compatriots will do it without your support. As I’ve asked time and time again….. your houses are so conservatively pure that you don’t need to be vigilant like me?…… I thought not.

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Snowe,collins,specter, u paying attention?

ouldbollix on February 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Rush told the California Republicans to hang in there yesterday on his show. The very next day they (Senate Republicans) dump their wimp of a leader and replaced him with a conservative (Dennis Hollingsworth) who so far is not caving on our 14 billion tax increase. Send this guy an email of support…

Senator.Hollingsworth@senate.ca.gov

repvoter on February 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM

rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 10:49 AM

Pete Wilson was a good man! Arnuld is a Democrat, can’t call him a Rino. I am glad I didn’t vote for him. People voted for him only because he is a movie Star. Ignorance is what is bringing Ca. down to the hole. I hope the GOP’S fight like hell to not raise taxes or double the car registration fees. I am going to call them in a few minutes again. I have been faithfully calling them. We have to rid the Democrats out of here. It will be hard to do, but we can do it. Why don’t they give us a break on Property Taxes, and our Income taxes? It is US that run this State. They also need to do away with a lot of State Employees. If you all knew how stupid the State Employees are. Not all of them, but there are some idiots. They got the jobs because of Affirmative Action. They are not even qualified to run a Kindergarten Class. Notice they had pet projects in the budget? Don’t they have a clue?

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM

OMG and Praise the Lord.

Maybe today will be a better day than yesterday…

RedbonePro on February 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM

Hi Dave. I was just goofing on Ed (born in S.Cal, lives in MN). Had nothing to do with you. Sorry if I caused any offense. And I live in NY. We’re far worse!

JiangxiDad on February 18, 2009 at 11:10 AM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM

During the California Republican primary I recieved a couple of robo call from Pete Wilson explaining that John McCain was the only candidate who wanted to fight illegal immigration. It was a baffling moment and made me wonder if he’d lost a step or two upstairs.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Send this guy an email of support…

Senator.Hollingsworth@senate.ca.gov

repvoter on February 18, 2009 at 11:07 AM

I just did! Thank you!

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

JiangxiDad. Oh no offense taken, I suspected as much. However, many here in this thread and others have consistently painted with a broad brush( Percy Peabody comes to mind) people here in MN. I just wanted to remind people that a small “guerrilla group” if you will, exists here and we’ll keep up the fight. But, It would be nice if we’d be recognized from time to time. I hope you didn’t feel put upon by my comment.

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

This is a flicker of light in the darkness. A tiny flame but it has been lit nonetheless. Go California GOP. Do not give in.

To the points about illegals and the border fence, etc., the only way Democrats can increase their base is by naturalizing as many illegals as possible, as well as making unions all powerful. Smash ‘em both!

J.J. Sefton on February 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM

During the California Republican primary I recieved a couple of robo call from Pete Wilson explaining that John McCain was the only candidate who wanted to fight illegal immigration. It was a baffling moment and made me wonder if he’d lost a step or two upstairs.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Yes! I got the same call. McCain isn’t against Illegals. He wants to kiss their bu**s. As you know this too. That he did. Wilson has lost it upstairs.

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Starlink on February 18, 2009 at 11:16 AM

To stick it to the fat cats, of course! Provided they aren’t Hollywood or D.C. fat cats.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:18 AM

A strong grassroots effort helped get Tony Strickland (Cal 19)elected over a tax and spend happy dem named Jackson (we called her taxin’ Jackson). It was the seat vacated by conservative Tom McClintock. That would have been the deciding vote and all this talk would be moot. The race was real close and we barely won. I had no idea how important that effort was, until now.

bestwins on February 18, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Nice to see some folks here got Cali’s back. Wasn’t too evident from the majority of comments yesterday.

Christien on February 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

I just wanted to remind people that a small “guerrilla group” if you will, exists here and we’ll keep up the fight. But, It would be nice if we’d be recognized from time to time. I hope you didn’t feel put upon by my comment.

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Yeah, exactly the same for me here in NY. Living behind the lines takes great skill. After the war, when our services and exploits can finally be told, we’ll have a beer together as we examine our medals.

JiangxiDad on February 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

On the other hand, at least he really cleaned up with the hispanic voting demographic in the general election! Kidding of course, but so many Republicans think its a winning strategy…

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM

http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=333726

ND House Passes Abortion Ban

OmahaConservative on February 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM

OmahaConservative on February 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Ooops. Meant that for the Pope/Pelosi thread.

OmahaConservative on February 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM

They did it to themselves, you know. If a state chooses to go out of their way for the poor, downtrodden, and illegal immigrants, that state tends to get what that state deserves. I don’t mean to be cruel here, but I’m certain that California has more people sucking off of state government teats than any other state.
Is it me or is every state with massive liberal laws and policies in huge financial trouble?

RMCS_USN on February 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

On the other hand, at least he really cleaned up with the hispanic voting demographic in the general election! Kidding of course, but so many Republicans think its a winning strategy…

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM

:) I like your thinking!

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

RMCS_USN on February 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

As I stated earlier, we PASSED a proposition ending services to illegal immigrants, but our unelected state Supreme Court overturned it.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM

Spending has increased 40% since 2004. The budget is about $100B/year in 2009. The deficit is about $40B. I say pass the 2004 budget for 2009 and be done with it.

besser tot als rot on February 18, 2009 at 11:29 AM

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I am one… Sorry, I do get carried away with just saying CA., MN., NJ., NY. are all radical left havens. I do tend to forget that MILLIONS did not drink the kool-aid and are not in the cult of the Messiah and that we all need to fight locally, grass roots, neighborhood to neighborhood until we regain the momentum. Thanks for a very good point.

(Puts down broad brush)

Mark Garnett on February 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Thanks, you too! If only we could get enough people to realize the underlying problems and that the solution is just to build the fence and shut off the magnets, we could fix this without having to chase anyone down with pitchforks.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM

angryed on February 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

And the Hispanic population is the fastest growing ethnic group in the Las Vegas area.

csdeven on February 18, 2009 at 11:34 AM

A strong grassroots effort helped get Tony Strickland (Cal 19)elected over a tax and spend happy dem named Jackson (we called her taxin’ Jackson). It was the seat vacated by conservative Tom McClintock. That would have been the deciding vote and all this talk would be moot. The race was real close and we barely won. I had no idea how important that effort was, until now.

bestwins on February 18, 2009 at 11:20 AM

W-T-G!!! Yes, the local grassroots is where real Conservatives must make inroads! Simply point out that Conservative States are in the black, with low taxes. Liberal States are DEAD BROKE and in ruin…

Mark Garnett on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

All they have to do is approve offshore drilling……and their problems are solved. But they won’t. Why not? Because liberal democrats won’t allow it. So the rest of the country will have to bail out California. I for one am opposed to that. Let Hollywood bail out CA. Or better yet….give California back to Mexico. It’s a waste anyway with the homeless population, illegals, liberal actors writers and directors and their anti-American films and TV shows…. we won’t miss California.

afotia on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Anyone notice how the MSM is trying to hide the ball on the sales tax increase in this package? They call it “one cent on the dollar” or “an increase of 0.01″ or something along those lines. You never see them call it a 1% hike.

I’m also missing all the stories regarding the irony of Arnold coming into office solely on the basis of vehicle licensing fees and how we have come full circle with Arnold trying to send them back to where they were pre-Arnold, or higher.

besser tot als rot on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM

I’m surprised they didn’t overturn the Prop. 8 vote as well. Shows how powerless the citizens of Calif. vote is when it can be simply trumped by the state Supreme Court. A “normal” supreme court would never overturn the vote of the people.

RMCS_USN on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Until the legislature gets serious about budget cuts, higher taxes only provide a junkie’s fix to addiction. The Republicans just signaled a cold-turkey approach, and they’re willing to throw their own leadership under the bus to get it.

Finally some good news for this Californian!

And, the sun is shining today (literally) after days of rain! Whoo-hoo!

Y-not on February 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM

csdeven on February 18, 2009 at 11:34 AM

Its the fastest growing population in a LOT of places, which is what happens when the government subsidizes one ethnicity over another.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Anyone notice how the MSM is trying to hide the ball on the sales tax increase in this package? They call it “one cent on the dollar” or “an increase of 0.01″ or something along those lines. You never see them call it a 1% hike.

besser tot als rot on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Actually if they were really honest, they would calculate from the existing percentage. For example, if the sales tax were 5% now, increasing it by a percentage point would be a 20% hike in the sales tax.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM

they spend more than 20 times what Minnesota does while only having about six times the population

Ah! But they have gazillions more illegals they choose to support.

burt on February 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM

afotia on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Thanks for the support. We California conservatives could really use it.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:39 AM

All budgets should start with “budget cuts”…federal and state.
They can have all the spending they want…just that “cuts” are greater then the spending.
If they want to give each other new cars, doesn’t matter, as long as their are “cuts” to balance.

right2bright on February 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Mark Garnett on February 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Thanks from another New Yorker who’s been involved at an admittedly LOCAL level for years. Slow going, but we may yet see victory.

irongrampa on February 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM

All they have to do is approve offshore drilling……and their problems are solved. But they won’t. Why not? Because liberal democrats won’t allow it. So the rest of the country will have to bail out California. I for one am opposed to that. Let Hollywood bail out CA. Or better yet….give California back to Mexico. It’s a waste anyway with the homeless population, illegals, liberal actors writers and directors and their anti-American films and TV shows…. we won’t miss California.

YES!! If it is such an emergency then why wouldn’t you do EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to raise money before always calling for more taxes?
If this country does not pound down the eco-nazis then we weill all be running around naked eating nuts & barries (and you don’t want to see Pelosi & Boxer running around naked do you?)

izoneguy on February 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

izoneguy on February 18, 2009 at 11:45 AM

We won’t have to see them running around naked – as the White House thermostat reminds us, government eco-nuts don’t practice what they preach.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM

I worked on Pete Wilson’s campaign in 1990 and for a Republican member of the Assembly. Since I left CA in 1991 I have followed things there closely and I have a lot of friends there who are politically active (in San Diego.)

Democrats have gerrymandered the legislature so badly over the years that there aren’t any moderate Arlen Specter types that they can roll. The remaining Republicans have safe seats and their constituents are egging them on here. The Assemblyman I worked for won a seat previously held by a Democrat and he was not very conservative because it was a swing district with a lot of retirees and gays. There aren’t any of those swing districts anymore. So Democrats are going to have to accommodate the Republicans.

This is starting to look like the Tax Revolt of 1978. That was the harbinger of Reagan’s election in 1980 and the last revolution against runaway government. It can happen again.

rockmom on February 18, 2009 at 11:52 AM

Raise taxes.
More companies leave.
Tax revenues fall.
Raise taxes.

Rinse, lather, repeat.

MarkTheGreat on February 18, 2009 at 9:57

Syntax correction:

Start
Raise taxes
More companies leave
Tax revenues fall
Goto Start

“We may be lost, but we’re ahead of schedule.”

warbaby on February 18, 2009 at 11:54 AM

THINK! Schwarzenegger has FAILED Californians.

originalpechanga on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM

As has the DEMOCRAT legislature. Not sure, but I don’t think Repbulicans have a had a majority in that state for 30 years or more? Someone who lives there please correct me if wrong.

Good to see some balls from the state Republicans. Ya’know, California often is first to do things. Could this be the sign that fiscal sanity is returning to our elected oafs, I mean officials?

riverrat10k on February 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Hang in there guys, you are heroes to the overtaxed working people.

Done That on February 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Howard Jarvis’ tax revolt of the 70′s laid the groundwork for RRs turn in the White House…..
Compare and contrast.

TBinSTL on February 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Whereabouts in “Central Virginia” (if you don’t mind me asking)?

How’s that Kaine working out for you. He’s the one that had the budget surplus and still was trying to raise taxes. So it’s not really about the economy with these Democrats (and Arnold): Budget defecit? Raise taxes! Budget surplus? Raise taxes!

Abby Adams on February 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I’m in Culpeper, and I don’t mind if you ask.

Kaine who?

Oh, several years ago I received (by error) the Liberal Decoder Ring in the mail. The term “TAX” is code for “POWER”, so whenever libs talk about raising taxes, their real purpose is to raise their power by taking yours. The mechanics of the taking, of course, is dollars.

BobMbx on February 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM

I actually yelled out a loud WOOT! when I heard they ousted Cogdill. Best political news I’ve heard in a very very long time in this state. Now if only they can see this thing to the end…

That said, how much of an economic crisis can we be in if the 9th largest economy in the world (CA’s) can propose complete economy killing tax raising with out even a comment from our Dear Leader? I mean didn’t he just bail out the Big Three? The taxes proposed in that atrocity of a state budget will KILL an already ailing car industry. Who’s gonna buy a new car when it the registration ‘fee’ (TAX) is doubled and you are paying more in sales tax and for gas… Thus negating everything Obama did with that auto bail out. Just sayin’.

oddjob1138 on February 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Anyone notice how the MSM is trying to hide the ball on the sales tax increase in this package? They call it “one cent on the dollar” or “an increase of 0.01″ or something along those lines. You never see them call it a 1% hike.

besser tot als rot on February 18, 2009 at 11:35 AM

Even a 1% increase would be wrong. If the sales tax is going from 7 to 8% it is a 14% increase.

angryed on February 18, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I just love Republicans who refuse to cave and despise the mealy mouthed Dole’s, McCain’s, Specter’s, Snowe’s, Lott’s, Graham’s, Collins’ of this world.

Hilts on February 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Mark Garnett

Thanks for your comments. And JiangxiDad? I’ll have the beer and we can forget the medals…. who’ll need ‘em when we’ve won. That beer will do just fine. I have a bunch from Nam that are gathering dust anyway. wasn’t prudent to wear them back then, y’know.

MNDavenotPC on February 18, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Great news for repubs in California, I wish the US Senate had such spine and integrity. But it takes 23 repubs in the US Senate to oust the business as usual Repubs and we don’t even have that number of committed fiscally responsible repubs there.

eaglewingz08 on February 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I love the Watership Down reference.

Sackett on February 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM

tharn

You win the daily obscure word prize for that one.

I usually got into that state when I used to do my taxes.

LimeyGeek on February 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Hey California, wanna solve your problems, almost overnight? Two words: Offshore Drilling. On the very day you allow that, your bonds will be upgraded immediately, thus becoming attractive to investors — which they are NOT now — and, in short order, you will see your state coffers full of money from the drilling royalties and taxes. You’ll also need major cuts in government spending but that’s going to be necessary anyway. Any questions?

TXUS on February 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Hallelujah! The governator/dem scheme would have picked the pockets of CA families for an additional $1-2 thousand per year. Much better to let the state crash. Those of us who are self-employed, pay our income and property taxes, but have to send our children to private school don’t need the State gov’t to survive.

Lou Budvis on February 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Thanks, you too! If only we could get enough people to realize the underlying problems and that the solution is just to build the fence and shut off the magnets, we could fix this without having to chase anyone down with pitchforks.

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM

That is true. Illegals have made a mess out of our Country. Ca. is the worse and I am not sure, but I think we have way more illegals here. Hate to see Pitchforks. But we must do what we have to do. We need a big fence. Actually a friend of mine was in San Diego working on the fence. He claims it is huge. Illegals probably helped them build it as well. I was raised in Ca. Ontario to be exact. Ca. is not the same, and I love Ca. Just hate what the Democrats have done to this Beautiful State.

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM

Hey California, wanna solve your problems, almost overnight? Two words: Offshore Drilling. On the very day you allow that, your bonds will be upgraded immediately, thus becoming attractive to investors — which they are NOT now — and, in short order, you will see your state coffers full of money from the drilling royalties and taxes. You’ll also need major cuts in government spending but that’s going to be necessary anyway. Any questions?

TXUS on February 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Santa Barbara is still going forward and drilling. I hope they don’t let the Man Child say otherwise. We need to drill oil and now. Also, in San Luis Obispo, a company is going to start drilling here. Every State has the right to do as they see fit. Without the Man Child or Congress saying we can’t. Great post btw! We would have been better off in the long run. But Arnuld wouldn’t go for it a few years back.

sheebe on February 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM

How long before a California state judge ORDERS the legislature to raise taxes?

Mark30339 on February 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Great question. Following that inevitability, how long before major social unrest follows leftist judges unilaterally subverting our constitution by dictating public policy from the seat of a courtroom?

Three cheers for the CA GOP finding a voice in the wilderness. Hold your line, boys. Let the enemy impale himself on your lances.

Jaibones on February 18, 2009 at 12:36 PM

JiangxiDad on February 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Hey. I am right here with you, behind the lines, incognito in Greenwich Village. Wish we had some state senate Republicans who could smash the infulence of Schumer, Rangell et al. Go California GOP. Just sent Hollingsworth a note too.

J.J. Sefton on February 18, 2009 at 12:37 PM

thecountofincognito on February 18, 2009 at 11:32 AM

We could also allow the Border Patrol and immigrations to do their jobs without threat of legal action or being hindered by the courts.

N4646W on February 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Footnote: California’s social engineering spending is a national disgrace, not unlike the Federal government’s, needless to say. It is an orgy of spending for nothing.

Hard Times acomin’.

Jaibones on February 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM

One day last week, most “non-essential-’ California state workers were told to stay home (w/o pay). Not surprisingly, life moved along just swimmingly for the all. In fact, the freeways were nice and open!

One woman, whose California-taxpayer funded job is to tell people who call her what the weather conditions are on certain roads (!!), called a radio show to argue against the furlough program. I think she effectively proved that there are tens of thousands of government jobs that could just disappear and no one would care.

LASue on February 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM

I’ve been listening to KFI… and helping California with this crisis from my Washington State command facility. I’ve told some of those sinnin’ State Senators to call Governor Palin’s Juneau office to ask “What would Sarah Palin do?” and “cut, baby, cut” as well.

HotAirJosef on February 18, 2009 at 1:03 PM

REVOLUTION! Spines for everyone in the GOP in CA!

ihasurnominashun on February 18, 2009 at 1:10 PM

You say California’s $105Billion spending figure is 20x that of Minnesota, then Minnesota’s annual spending would be (105/20), or about $5.25 Billion per year, or $11B biennially. If Minnesota is facing a $7B biennial shortfall, then their shortfall is (3.5/5.25 or) 67% of the budget. That is unlikely to be true.

I then did a Google search which determined Minnesota’s biennial expenditures are closer to $33B. Thus, the ratio of California to Minnesota spending is 105/16.5 is about 6.36, which is about the ratio of the populations of the states and is slightly below the ratio of their GDPs.

For futher comparison, I found Oklahoma’s expenditures are about $7Billion. California spends about 15 tmies as much as Oklahoma while it only has 10 times the population. However, California’s GDP is 13 times that of Oklahoma.

So you are partially correct, California government is spending more per person and more per GDP than a conservative state such as Oklahoma. But it is not out of line with a state such as Minnesota and not as outrageously out of balance even when comparing to a state such as Oklahoma.

DaveO on February 18, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Awesome! Now is the time to be stubborn. If there were reasonable give and take about taxes, I would be much more accommodating. The problem is that senseless use of money is never stopped by government now. It’s why we need to be jerks for a while.

thuja on February 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM

Start sending money to those hardline Republicans.

Iblis on February 18, 2009 at 1:35 PM

In 1998 California spending was $56 Billion. In 2008 California spending was $131 Billion. Do you see the problem? Spending.

Time for another Bear Flag Revolt.

Our current revenue (I hate that f’ing word, it should be taxes collected)is on par with what we spent in 2002. So that’s the base line. We can start with the 2002 budget, and lock that in for 24 months.

In the meantime it’s time for a Constitutional Convention.

Part Time Legislature. no more than 50 new laws enacted per year.

Budgets are for 2 years and are in place by March (fiscal years start in July).

Eliminate Salaries for all board and commission appointments, make them voluntary except for ONE paid industry expert to run the board or commission. Meetings are by teleconference, except for 1 annual meeting or an emergency.

Education is managed at the district level.

More Charter schools.

Only new Agency that will be created is Boarder enforcement. Send the bill to the Federal Government.

No more Spending Initiatives

And smile when you say Damn Yankee.

juanito on February 18, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Actually if they were really honest, they would calculate from the existing percentage. For example, if the sales tax were 5% now, increasing it by a percentage point would be a 20% hike in the sales tax.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 11:38 AM

+1,000

And Jim wins the “Report the Truth Award” for the day. Well said.

riverrat10k on February 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM

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