Brits can deport Abu Qatada

posted at 11:01 am on February 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In a rational system, this decision would have come immediately, since Abu Qatada had entered Britain under false pretenses, lied to get asylum, and then started issuing fatwas approving the murders of non-believers.  Instead, a British court actually allowed Qatada out on bail and rescinded his deportation order, requiring the government to try a second time to kick Qatada out of the country.  Human rights activists decried the decision today to deport Qatada to Jordan, where he faces charges of terrorism:

In a victory for the Home Office, law lords today decided that Qatada – who is wanted in Jordan on terror charges – could be deported from the UK.

The Government had appealed against a court decision preventing his deportation on the grounds he may face unfair treatment in Jordan.

The 48-year-old, once dubbed Osama bin Laden’s right-hand-man-in Europe, has claimed evidence against him was extracted by torture. …

Human rights groups condemned the decision, which also favoured the Home Office in its efforts to deport two Algerians.

Amnesty International urged ministers not to take the judgment as a “green light” to deport more people to regimes where they risked unfair trial and torture.

Presumably, the two Alergian cases relate to this story in July, when the British released two al-Qaeda terrorists on bail.  “U” also entered Britain under false pretenses, an action that until recently had given governments all the reason it needed to deport undesirables.  US intelligence had tracked “U” even before the 9/11 attacks, as he had connections to the millenium bomb plot that the US accidentally uncovered in December 1999.  We wanted him deported here, but could not build a case against “U”, and so the Brits wanted him sent back to Algeria — but the courts blocked the deportation of a known terrorist, allowing him to live among them instead.

Nations have no responsibility to house terrorists, especially those that commit fraud to enter the country or get granted asylum.  They especially have no responsibility to house people who issue death orders to their followers, regardless of how they’ll get treated when returned to their home country or to a nation that wants to try him for other crimes.  People who emigrate to a country have a responsibility to follow the law if they want to stay there.  If they don’t, then they have little to complain about when given the boot.

Thankfully, the Law Lords applied a little common sense to these cases.  The previous ruling, that their nation had to abide terrorists who lied to get into the country and who continued their terrorist pursuits while residing there, was a prescription for suicide.

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….But, will he be deported?

awake on February 18, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Don’t hold your breath, they probably won’t deport him

Defector01 on February 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Send him here, apparently we will soon have all sorts of such primitives walking our streets.

Bishop on February 18, 2009 at 11:06 AM

But what will Lord Ahmed do? They should deport that clown too. Tony Blair you are a retard.

dogsoldier on February 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Can we now move the Koran to a lower bookshelf?

WashJeff on February 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Charles Johnson at LGF won’t like this. Yesterday he issued a fatwa against anyone who mentions deportation of Muslims.

BL@KBIRD on February 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Gee…how perfectly logical.

How long will people/governments remain passive and actually believe that “if we only treat them nice, they will be nice to us?” Failing, of course, to understand that our “being nice” is an exploitable weakness they understand full well and most in the West don’t have a clue.

coldwarrior on February 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Lovely…they detain Wilders from entering the country, but they havent deported this clown?

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Nice. I am pleased he’s gone.

Frivolous on February 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM

On one side you have folks, like myself, who believe in hard work, sweat, and determination. If I look in the peanut butter jar and it’s empty – well, I know I have to work harder and save more so that I can fill it up again. I’ll face problems as they come with grit and backbone. I love people, and along the way, I’ll reach out, and share what I have with those less fortunate. I keep a clean house, help my neighbors and raise my kid to honor this great country.

Then you have those who wake up feeling guilty about America. Guilty about their good educations – their nice house. Guilty about the great history of our Constitution and the sacrifices so many made to push America to the top. That guilt turns to doubt and then to hate of all we stand for: Goodness, Self-determination, Reliance on self, and Love of God and Country. The Brits show that here – they impart their internal feelings of inadequacy, doubt and guilt into hatred of all the freedoms that were so hard fought to attain. They actually reach out to help, assist and conspire with scum, murderers and terrorists – and to what end? So that these enemies of Democracy can kill me, my child, my neighbors, and our brave men and women in uniform? What’s happening here?

Cinday Blackburn on February 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Islamification of the world…don’t let it happen to the US.

Wileygrl3 on February 18, 2009 at 11:15 AM

He’s appealing to the European Court of Human Rights [snicker]. Someone on another site predicted he can drag this out for another 6 years.

Blake on February 18, 2009 at 11:16 AM

Lovely…they detain Wilders from entering the country, but they havent deported this clown?

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Exactly. And apparently “human rights” groups are only concerned about the rights of terrorists.

rbj on February 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

We are pleased at deportation?

Wouldn’t imprisonment be more appropriate?

faraway on February 18, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Terrorists have more rights than that poor woman who was beheaded.

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Inyer Bunghole, the guy you quote in your Koran in UK libraries post, is complaining that Quatada is being deported because he has a “scary beard.”

He lives in a multimillion dollar home. I hope he is picking up the legal fees.

Blake on February 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Sorry, but i don’t trust anyone who could hide a family of squirrels in their beard.

MDWNJ on February 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM

Terrorists have more rights than that poor woman who was beheaded.

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

And our government and others better start calling that murder what it really is..an “honor killing” that is Islamic. When muslim men do honor killings they always proudly announce to authorities what they did…which is what that monster did after beheading his wife. And he was a so-called moderate.

Wileygrl3 on February 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

“The previous ruling, that their nation had to abide terrorists who lied to get into the country and who continued their terrorist pursuits while residing there, was a prescription for suicide.” The West has been on the suicide path for some time. The cry about his deportation by the human rights activists shows that they are useful idiots at best.

amr on February 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM

The AP is just now reporting this…after what? 6 days?

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Aloha Qatada!

Isn’t that Akuna Matada?

Traffic Cop Timmy on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

The AP is just now reporting this…after what? 6 days?

becki51758 on February 18, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Yeah, and notice the chimp who mauled someone gets more attention. Revolting.

Wileygrl3 on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Leftards will never attack muslims. They are brothers in arms.

Blake on February 18, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Brits can deport Abu Qatada

—headline

But will they?

What will Brussels have to say in this matter?

hillbillyjim on February 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM

About Charles Johnson and LGF. I was a long time poster there,since 2004, and have noticed a seemingly different slant there as of late. I asked, and was granted removal as a poster from that site. Really a pity. On topic though I’ll believe the deportation of this “man” when I see it. Color me sceptical.

sandee on February 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Keep it simple. If they are preaching hatred and violence, then boot their a**es out. They made their bed of roses; let them lie in it.

DL13 on February 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM

NO ALOHA FOR YOU

Kini on February 18, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Why are atheists such pains in the ass?

Because, for a great many Atheists, Atheism isn’t non-belief… It’s the belief in Nothing.

Lehosh on February 18, 2009 at 11:47 AM

bah… wrong thread

Lehosh on February 18, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Yeah, and notice the chimp who mauled someone gets more attention. Revolting.

Wileygrl3 on February 18, 2009 at 11:27 AM

I said the same thing to my sig. other while dressing this morning. Chimp eats idiot is more newsworthy than Iran’s nuke program or a Muslim honor killing in Buffalo. Totally revolting and disgusting non-coverage by the “news” media.

riverrat10k on February 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Nations have no responsibility to house terrorists, especially those that commit fraud to enter the country or get granted asylum.

Johan Klaus on February 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Learned something new: The story about the woman who was having muslim women raped so as to pressure them into becoming suicide bombers was reported in WaPo as only that she “convinced” them — not that she had them raped.

Blake on February 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM

I said the same thing to my sig. other while dressing this morning. Chimp eats idiot is more newsworthy than Iran’s nuke program or a Muslim honor killing in Buffalo. Totally revolting and disgusting non-coverage by the “news” media.

riverrat10k on February 18, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Yeah…like typical liberals that the msm is, they ignore truth and report on nothing. I’m not giving Fox news a pass about the chimp but at least they’re reporting on the honor killing as well..don’t see it at CNN or MSNBC

Wileygrl3 on February 18, 2009 at 11:59 AM

You know, maybe if these thugs had some fear that they might get deported to even worse countries, they might keep their noses cleaner in their western countries. It’s just one of those crazy thoughts that law abiding citizens get every now and then.

eaglewingz08 on February 18, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Put him on the plane now!

Mason on February 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM

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Jordan seems like a pretty good destination for this Jihadi.
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Instead of turning him over to the Jordanian government–turn him over the the families who lost loved ones and were maimed in the hotel wedding reception bombing a few years ago.
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I think the families could come up with some real innovative ways to take care of this POS and send him packing to his 72 virgins. See the PASSION OF THE CHRIST and the BRAVEHEART movies for suggestions.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on February 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Cinday Blackburn on February 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM

very nice post!

max1 on February 18, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Goog

hey islam is piece (err peace) remember..
Sop he wont have a problem..
Trust the muslims you liberals always say..
Ok we will

send this piece of shit back..
to where he belongs..

jcila on February 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Deport him from 20000 feet.

/in the air

44Magnum on February 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Deport him now. No more delay

Streecar on February 18, 2009 at 3:58 PM

The Brits show that here – they impart their internal feelings of inadequacy, doubt and guilt into hatred of all the freedoms that were so hard fought to attain…What’s happening here?

…folks making these decisions are products of years — generations, in fact — of indoctrination. Added to this, which Colonials must struggle to understand, is the guilt of empire…even though that empire, in many cases, ensured that the lands so governed had peace and an absence of fratricidal blodletting for the first and last times in their histories.

…added to that, there’s long been a talk of class in Britain…and that “middle class” doesn’t have to rock-solid, Ozzie-’n'-Harriet connotation that it has here in the States…it means something more like “snotty yuppies”, with “working class” meaning something more akin to our American “middle class”….

…all this comes, in large part, from the steady drumbeating of the British Left, from the Peterloo Massacre to the loony dealings of Claire Short. As politicized as American teachers unions are (and, boy, are they!), they don’t hold a candle to British teachers unions…chief of which, I believe, is the National Union of Teachers, aptly abbreviated to NUT.

…Trotsky would be tempted to tell these guys to lighten up….

…as in that catchy tune in “South Pacific”, national self-doubt, self-hatred and willingness to national suicide must be carefully taught:

You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

Puritan1648 on February 18, 2009 at 4:11 PM

…personally, I hope that Mr. Qatada (or is it Mr. Abu, or is Abu Qatada like “O’Leary”, and it’s a package deal?) returns to Jordan and receives what he’d like to instituted in the country he’s lied to enter and has worked hard to subvert: Islamic justice.

Islamic justice is often quite just, whatever one might say about their appeals system. Speaking theologically, it’s a bit weak in the mercy department, but it’s damned snappy in the justice department.

Then again, consider the logic: feeling all tender that repatriating this walking pustule might lead to his meeting with harsh penalties, the British justice system allows him to stay in Britain (probably with social service support and a stipend, as in other notorious cases of jihadi “asylum seekers”) to do the very things for which his native country wants him for in the first place.

So, once again, Britain is played for a sap by murderous villains, used as a Jean Lafite used Barataria, the Viet Cong used Cambodia, and the current crop of pirates are currently using the caves of Pakistan. I don’t know who’s more suicidal: the British establishment, for allowing thugs in like spirochetes, to infect and kill the body politic; or the thugs themselves, for wanting to turn a perfectly good hideout, with social services and regular apologies from guilty children of quasi-Christians, into just another dreary Sharia-hobbled medieval backwater.

…it’s a funny old world….

Puritan1648 on February 18, 2009 at 4:23 PM

They should be forced to feed the poor….

sharks.

44Magnum on February 18, 2009 at 6:47 PM