Alaska officials: Palin owes back taxes

posted at 5:44 pm on February 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Good news: She’s officially qualified to serve in Obama’s cabinet.

Gov. Sarah Palin must pay income taxes on thousands of dollars in expense money she received while living at her Wasilla home, under a new determination by state officials.

The governor’s office wouldn’t say this week how much she owes in back taxes for meal money, or whether she intends to continue to receive the per diem allowance. As of December, she was still charging the state for meals and incidentals…

“Last fall we raised questions about longstanding practices within the Department of Administration regarding tax treatment of per diem payments,” Kreitzer wrote in an exchange of e-mails over the past few days with the Daily News.

“At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” [state administration commissioner Annette] Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.”

Remember when WaPo broke the per diem story last fall? It was 10 days after McCain picked her, during the momentary lull between the media obsessing about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy and the media obsessing about Palin’s tanning bed. Team Maverick defended her for billing the state for nights away from Juneau spent in her own home in Wasilla, but the practice was sufficiently unusual that she evidently opted for full transparency and ordered a state review. Shrewd move: As embarrassing as it is to have this come out so soon after Geithner and Daschle, it would have been more embarrassing still to have it come up again in a future primary.

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Will it be similar to the reason McCain should have been appealing to conservatives?

For the most part, yes. Lemme explain tho.

I still haven’t figured out why Ji Yeon doesn’t have to go back to The Island. :)

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM

She hadn’t been born yet…born on the Island like Aaron.

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Let’s just say, a lot.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Can you be a little more specific than that?

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

AV: Care to give some specifics on that ‘a lot’? We can’t help you if you don’t give us some concrete details.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM

You know I’m not really blaming Palin don’t you? the financial meltdown in Sep doomed any real chances he had. He saw the abyss and others perceived his reaction as being chicken little.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/
look for “inside the meltdown”

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:59 PM

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM

I was shocked how much anti-Mormon feeling was present. Quite frankly, that has no place in the world of 21st c politics and I find it disgusting simply as a fair-minded human being. That Huckabee followed up on this sentiment and tried to exploit it for his own use did not do himself any favors and I believe went a long way and giving the world McCain.

As I have stated on many other occasions whoever is nominated I pray that it not be determined late in the primary process but early enough so conservatives and the GOP can rally around the nominee, raise sufficient funds and organize efficiently to at least give our side a decent chance to compete.

In addition let us resolve to coalesce around this one candidate early in the process so we do not get another RINO coming up the middle.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Irony intentional or not?

notropis on February 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Not.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Oh dear.

Watching these Palin apologists is like watching the Obama and Hillary apologists.

Look fellow conservatives, if the best we can do is to elect a broad who is reportedly a Bible believing conservative christian and yet:

1) Got preggers before she got a ring on her finger

2) Had high school kids getting preggers with the local bad-boy hockey players because nobody is watching the children.

3) Flubbed her interview so badly it was embarrassing….doesnt know what newspapers she reads, can see the Kremlin from her house.

4) Talks about being a “maverick”. Dear God, please not another self-described “maverick”. After that election, I will forever hate anybody who calls themselves a “maverick”.

5) Blames everybody except herself for her dismal performance in the election…McCain’s handlers, etc. By the way, I cant stand McCain.

6) Brags about screwing over the oil companies in Alaska.

7) During her debate with dummy Biden, she showed that she understands the economy as well as McCain…i.e. clueless as hell.

8) During the campaign talked about cap n trade, global warming and all the other crap that INTELLIGENT conservatives dont believe in.

Bottom line: Nice lady, attractive too. But the chances that she has of winning the nomination and then the presidency EVER are about 1 in a trillion. If that is the best that we republicans can offer America, then God help us. We dont deserve to be in power.

These Palin nutballs remind me of the Suckabee nutballs and even the crazy Ron Paul nutcases. You cant even reason with these people.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Can you be a little more specific than that?

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

I could, but I won’t at this time.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

You know I’m not really blaming Palin don’t you? the financial meltdown in Sep doomed any real chances he had.

I absolutely do. I’m just saying all predictions mid-season were destroyed then. The attitude coming out of the convention predicted the campaign would have been better too, but oh well.

My point is merely that it’s not Palin’s fault this or that. It’s silly for people (Frum or whoever) to blame her.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I could, but I won’t at this time.

As a “lifelong Republican concerned Christian voter”, let me just say: me too!

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Astroturfer sighting!

AV: If you won’t, please don’t enter into the discussion. Assertions without evidence are meaningless.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Please no one take AV seriously, this is an astroturfing Moby “concerned Republican” troll. On another thread it was telling us we should be supporting Obama because he is so compelling and was spouting CNN polls.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:06 PM

It never ends. This story will be blown up to some monstreously exagerated talking point by every lib in the media.

“Sarah Palin actually shot Travis the chimp from a helicopter because he had gotten Bristol Palin pregnant. She also accused him a tampering with her tax returns and occasionally wearing her three thousand dollar Pradas.”

See how they think…

RadioFreeUSA on February 18, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I could, but I won’t at this time.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Uh okay.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 8:06 PM

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

I think I’m in love.

SnarkVader on February 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM

My point is merely that it’s not Palin’s fault this or that. It’s silly for people (Frum or whoever) to blame her.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I’m afraid we have to repeat history to prove to the youngsters that Carter really was that bad. 20 years from now Obama’s name is more likely to be synonomous with Hoover or Carter rather than Lincoln.

but as far as Palin goes I’m all for her throwing her hat in the ring but not crowning her as the heir apparent (which I am sure is an opinion we share as well)

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Are the Democrats paying you all to obsess over Palin? I’m beginning to think you all are a bunch of sock puppets trying to make people think the conservatives still want her around.

popularpeoplesfront on February 18, 2009 at 8:08 PM

You know what would be interesting to find out, whether or not a single person in this thread would walk up to the door of the IRS and basically say- audit me.

Most of us think we are clean, but do we know for sure.

I mean really???

Have you bought anything over the internet???? Say on Ebay. Many states claim that you should be paying sales tax, especially if it is shipped from your home state. You are supposed to turn yourself in on your state tax forms and pay.

Are you clean now?

You know those people that cross state lines to purchase cigarettes or alcohol because your it is less expensive???? You know- you are supposed to pay taxes to your home state for this stuff, right. I heard Tennessee and Kentucky line up cops on the borders just to bust people doing this.

Are you clean now?

You know some states like New York, are busting people buying cigarettes over the internet. You are supposed to turn yourself in and pay those exorbitant taxes.

Have you ever worked for cash just doing a little side work, like building a cabinet or mowing a lawn for a few extra bucks?

Have you ever had a garage sale and failed to put that down as income on your taxes?

Guess what?

So how many of you would turn yourselves into the IRS now?

The fact that Palin had the balls to turn herself into the IRS makes herself a woman of more integrity than anyone posting on this site.

The difference between Palin and the Obama goofs is that they purposely avoided paying their taxes. Geither knew and signed plenty of papers stating that he knew. I might have been able to forget about the car and driver for Daschle,maybe he did not understand this…but not claiming the $85,000 in speaking fees as income….come on.

So how many of you plan on amending your taxes for a garage sale you may have had this summer???

kcarpenter on February 18, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM

More Palin supporters share in that sentiment… Let them fight it out in a primary…

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM

Most*

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM

3) Flubbed her interview so badly it was embarrassing….doesnt know what newspapers she reads, can see the Kremlin from her house

I’m with ya on Palin, Wall…but that one’s not entirely fair. Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. That was Tina Fey. As for her aloofness on what papers she reads in that Couric interview, she simply wasn’t playing Katie’s game of naming names. I actually give her kudos for that.

7) During her debate with dummy Biden, she showed that she understands the economy as well as McCain…i.e. clueless as hell.

Badmouthing McCain? Them’s fightin’ words! ;-)

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 8:09 PM

I hope that is the case. The fawning of some diehards doesn’t help the party unity that is badly needed.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM

but as far as Palin goes I’m all for her throwing her hat in the ring but not crowning her as the heir apparent (which I am sure is an opinion we share as well)

We do.

20 years from now Obama’s name is more likely to be synonomous with Hoover or Carter rather than Lincoln.

It’s very conceivable. Though FDR still gets a pass from a large percentage of people despite the long-term effects of his policies.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I hope that is the case. The fawning of some diehards doesn’t help the party unity that is badly needed.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM

+100

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Bradky: I can say that I would like to see some competition, but I surely wouldn’t cry if Palin was the 2012 candidate.

JetBoy: Still waiting on that post about why Crist is good. ;)

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I agree with you completely about the financial meltdown but McCain did not do himself, the party or Sarah Palin any favors by declining to fire both barrels of the gun at Obama regarding his prior associations and his association with radical socialist ideas.

I’m not saying that McCain would have won but with Sarah giving it all she could I believe that Obama would have been damaged by the relentless Palin onslaught, but of course McCain wouldn’t let her completely loose.

And finally why was Sarah not showcased in any TV ads during the last week of the campaign. That’s like the 2009 US Open not advertising the week prior to the tournament that Tiger Woods was going to defend his championship. Unbelievable!

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Oh dear.

Watching these Palin apologists is like watching the Obama and Hillary apologists.

Look fellow conservatives, if the best we can do is to elect a broad who is reportedly a Bible believing conservative christian and yet:

1) Got preggers before she got a ring on her finger

So what, she isn’t God!

2) Had high school kids getting preggers with the local bad-boy hockey players because nobody is watching the children.

and you have never known of any of your friends kids who had had this happen to them? Wow, you do live in a bubble.

3) Flubbed her interview so badly it was embarrassing….doesnt know what newspapers she reads, can see the Kremlin from her house.

Can see the Kremlin? Dude, you are watching to much SNL… lay off the booze.

4) Talks about being a “maverick”. Dear God, please not another self-described “maverick”. After that election, I will forever hate anybody who calls themselves a “maverick”.

LOL, so what do you know about Palin? Please tell me as I am an Alaska and have lived thru and still living thru the Palin Admin! LMFAO!!! Maverick she is, follower she is not.

5) Blames everybody except herself for her dismal performance in the election…McCain’s handlers, etc. By the way, I cant stand McCain.

Did you ever think that the Media was to blame? Good Lord are you sucking helium?

6) Brags about screwing over the oil companies in Alaska.

Please elaborate on when she “Screwed Over” the oil comps. Becareful what you say… I work in the “Oil” Business!

7) During her debate with dummy Biden, she showed that she understands the economy as well as McCain…i.e. clueless as hell.

Actually even liberal thought she did well and was making Biden mad. LOL did you not watch the debate?

8) During the campaign talked about cap n trade, global warming and all the other crap that INTELLIGENT conservatives dont believe in.

LOL HAHAHHAHAA! Global Warming may be a myth, but she is sueing the Federal Government for the Global Warming Myth of the polar Bear going extinct! LMFAO!!!

Bottom line: Nice lady, attractive too. But the chances that she has of winning the nomination and then the presidency EVER are about 1 in a trillion. If that is the best that we republicans can offer America, then God help us. We dont deserve to be in power.

These Palin nutballs remind me of the Suckabee nutballs and even the crazy Ron Paul nutcases. You cant even reason with these people.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Wow you are a complete REJECT who has no clue about crap… Alaska.. Palin.. or otherwise. Please tell me you are working… so I can make sure my Stimulus doesn’t have to deal with your children!

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 8:15 PM

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 8:10 PM and Wall

She said you can see Russia from Alaska and since it is only about 18 miles across the Bering strait from Russia it does put Alaska on the frontline against the Russian bear.
As a result she has had higher level briefings on National security than any other lower 48 Gov. and the Ak National Guard is the only unit on full time duty.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:20 PM

show me where she said that. A link would be nice… Tina Fey would approve.

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 8:22 PM

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 8:14 PM

Yeah, they (the campaign) really put the gloves on at the end. It’s difficult to conclude that McCain believed winning was important.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:22 PM

1) Got preggers before she got a ring on her finger

2) Had high school kids getting preggers with the local bad-boy hockey players because nobody is watching the children.

Palin needs a Sista Soulja moment with hypocrites who call out stuff like this. People try to portray as some religious zealot, and then she gets attacked by religious zealouts. Hey idiot – how do you know she was pregnant before she “got a ring on her finger”? Were you there? And, by the way, she bought her own wedding ring for $35 because that’s all they could afford. And they are still married 20 years and 5 kids later. And girls from the best families get pregnant all the time – just most of the time they have abortions and cover it up.

3) Flubbed her interview so badly it was embarrassing….doesnt know what newspapers she reads, can see the Kremlin from her house.

What, one interview? How many other interviews did she screw up? And Google “Diomede”, idiot.

4) Talks about being a “maverick”. Dear God, please not another self-described “maverick”. After that election, I will forever hate anybody who calls themselves a “maverick”.

Blasting her for “maverick” is like blasting Biden for “hope and change”. It was the campaign schtick.

5) Blames everybody except herself for her dismal performance in the election…McCain’s handlers, etc. By the way, I cant stand McCain.

She hasn’t “blamed everybody” – she complimented the McCain staffers despite the crappy way they treated her. She has complained, just a little, about the media distortions – or do you believe the MSM was fair?

6) Brags about screwing over the oil companies in Alaska.

Bullcrap. The oil companies had a sweet corruptocracy going up there in Alaska – google “VECO”. She overturned the tax agreement the oil companies bribed the Alaska GOP into giving them, and renegotiated fair terms, as the Alaska Constitution requires her to do. Dude, it was her campaign promise to do so, that’s why she won.

7) During her debate with dummy Biden, she showed that she understands the economy as well as McCain…i.e. clueless as hell.

She kicked Biden all over the stage. As to her economic chops, which state in the Union is in the best financial shape? She has enough financial reserves up there to last though at least a two-year recession, probably longer.

8) During the campaign talked about cap n trade, global warming and all the other crap that INTELLIGENT conservatives dont believe in.

Just a hint – McCain was pushing all that garbage. She had to back him up. She’s said more than once that she doesn’t believe global warming is manmade.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:24 PM

What I wonder is when AP will stop bashing Gov. Palin?

But I digress…

Pertinent statements in the article:

Last fall we raised questions about longstanding practices within the Department of Administration regarding tax treatment of per diem payments,” Kreitzer wrote in an exchange of e-mails over the past few days with the Daily News.

At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” [state administration commissioner Annette] Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.

(Emphasis Mine).

I doubt, AP, she would qualify for a cabinet position in the Obambi Administration, your snarky comment notwithstanding.

Gothguy on February 18, 2009 at 8:27 PM

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 8:22 PM

I believe it was in the ABC interview which is why Fey picked it up and distorted it. I had heard the same thing long before Sarah ever got on any stage.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:29 PM

http://townhall.com/columnists/CharlesKrauthammer/2008/11/07/the_gops_worthy_nominee?page=1

is one of my favorite columns about McCain the candidate

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:24 PM

I was wondering if the Diomede islands are US or Russian territory.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:31 PM

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:29 PM

Yeah, I’ll back you up on this. She said that Russia can be seen from Alaska’s shores. It wasn’t a comment on foreign policy or anything like the left made it out to be, it was just a comment.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM

This Alaska/Russia Tina Fey crap is still really pissing me off. Good men have died on the Alaskan/Russian frontier monitoring the crap the Russians do up there – their bodies are somewhere in the Bering Sea, God rest their brave souls.

Christ, the Russians shot down a Korean airliner, killing a U.S. Congressman in the process, because they thought they were getting an Alaska-based recon plane? Does nobody know history?

And just last year Putin resumed sending Russian bombers to probe Alaskan airspace.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I was wondering if the Diomede islands are US or Russian territory.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:31 PM

If I recall correctly, Little Diomede is American, Big Diomede is Russian.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Wow…. this “ruling” just hosed all the military personel living in Alaska…

This “per diem” and food allowance is JUST like the housing and food allowance for military personel, which has never been taxable.

If Alaska now decides this is taxable income… wow… theres a WHOLE bunch of Military folks who owe back taxes.

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM

I don’t know what the geography is like on Russia’s Chukchi peninsula is like but if it is at all mountainous it would be visible from Alaska’s Bering point.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Thanks, I am somewhat a geography nut and maphead and it wasn’t clear on the map I have.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

The military is on the federal payroll so its probably exempted from taxes for per diem. It would hit all the state lawmakers though.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Blast! I got here way too late. There have already been a lot of great comments.
The Governor asked for a review. A review was conducted and now it was determined that she owes taxes, which I’m sure she will pay straight away. Even the ADN article made it pretty plain that there was no wrongdoing.
ALLAHPUNDIT, which politicians do you like? It is rather obvious you don’t like Governor Palin.

manajordan on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

The military is on the federal payroll so its probably exempted from taxes for per diem. It would hit all the state lawmakers though.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Sigh… you do know that Military personel pay STATE taxes as well? And that tax law has to be equal for everyone, or the Equal Protection clause comes into play? It doesn’t matter who pays you… its how that pay is looked at…

Per diem is per diem…. won’t matter who writes the check…

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Thanks, I am somewhat a geography nut and maphead and it wasn’t clear on the map I have.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

A while back, the ADN linked to a great photo essay of the Diomede Islands…I haven’t been able to find the link, though.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

I hope that is the case. The fawning of some diehards doesn’t help the party unity that is badly needed.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Of course, trashing the only person who brought a pulse or any excitement to Republicans in 2008, brings about tons of party unity, doesn’t it?

The woman has an 89% approval rating among Republicans, it will still be at 89% tomorrow morning after this revelation.

You betcha!

kcarpenter on February 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Just when you thought she couldn’t be any more discredited.

crr6 on February 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Coming from an anonymous moron who uses digits for a moniker.

Richard Romano on February 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM

I am career military and can’t imagine this applying to G.I.’s…we are taxed only on “pay”, not “allowances”. Per diem is actually something we receive in lieu of one of our benefits (eating at the base chow hall), so it’s not considered “pay”.

I agree it’s a double standard. State employees shouldn’t be treated differently from federal employees in regards to federal income taxes. Does Obama have to pay taxes on all that free food he gets at the White House, or on the benefit of jet-setting around with Kathleen Parker on Air Force One?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Yeah, I’ll back you up on this. She said that Russia can be seen from Alaska’s shores. It wasn’t a comment on foreign policy or anything like the left made it out to be, it was just a comment.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM

It was an aside. You are right, it wasn’t a comment on foreign policy. It is clear in the Gibson transcript that HE brought it up, and she mentioned it as an aside (kind of like “oh, and by the way, did you know…?”)

BPD on February 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I’m a huge Palin fan…contributed to her PAC. I don’t think she will run for pres in ’12. In fact, I don’t think she will run for re-election in ’10. I think she’s fed up. The libs are getting to her. I predict she will write a book and get her own talk show at the conclusion of her term. Then, she’ll be able to say and do whatever she wants. This path would provide a much better springboard for a possible 2016 run than the AK governorship.

takeamericabackin10 on February 18, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Yes Palin brought a pulse to the Republicans. She also brought a pulse to the ugly women who were still bitter over Hillary. They were OUTRAGED that their ugly ass savior got beat by a black guy but even more mad that the lady trying to replace her actually worked for a living and didn’t have a loveless marraige.

Speedwagon82 on February 18, 2009 at 8:57 PM

But as far as potential candidates, I like Jodi Rell (Conn. governor) or perhaps Charlie Crist.

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Great news Jetboy, both Rell and Crist are Obama supporters. Crist even walked hand in hand with Obama in Florida shoving the massive failure know as the stimulus down everyone’s throat.

Rell and Crist even went and signed a document telling Obama how wise and brilliant he was.

You must be so proud of your 2 candidates, the socialist sympathizers.

Funny how Palin was not mentioned with the two socialist sympathizer governors in this article, huh?

kcarpenter on February 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

I would kinda doubt the Feds would screw up your w-2 forms like that anyway. This looks the Ak payroll accountants screwed up not Palin or the other lawmakers that will also owe those taxes.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 9:01 PM

0% chance I will vote in 2012 if Orange Crist is our nominee.

BPD on February 18, 2009 at 9:01 PM

kcarpenter on February 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

I would say our top tier right now are Romney, Palin, Jindal and sadly Huckabee. Second tier would be Blunt, Canter, Sanford and Pawlenty.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM

BPD on February 18, 2009 at 9:01 PM

I agree, I have heard very little about Crist that I liked.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 9:10 PM

This doesnt seem to be a problem for anyone else. Why just her? Who even says its valid? BFD. The country is going straight to hell and its not becuase of this. Hell the lazy local drug dealer is about to get gov’t money to keep his house while I bust my ass, risk driving to work everyday, worry about sick days, pack lunches, deal with work stress, and I just get the luxury of paying the tab for the lazy ones. We all know who the program is designed for. I could give a damn less if Palin is wearing a bra she didnt pay for or owes the IRS 10,000 at this point.

johnnyU on February 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Yeah, I’ll back you up on this. She said that Russia can be seen from Alaska’s shores. It wasn’t a comment on foreign policy or anything like the left made it out to be, it was just a comment.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 8:33 PM

The problem Palin has,
She trusts people.
She believes in People,
She Loves People.

All three attributes the Libs are not even capable of bearing! She’s pure in her beliefs and has moral convictions…again another attribute Liberals do not espouse too. She does need to sharpen herself and she’ll do fine…refine what she believes and articulate the Conservative Ideals she espouses.

Her coming out on the Stimulus plan is MUCH LOUDER than any of the other “Potential” candidates. They said it was “Bad” she said “He ought to Veto it”. That’s leadership!

will sass u on February 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Everyone contact Micheal Steele about Crist…for Crist sake we don’t need him in office anymore…

will sass u on February 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Crist’s attitude towards the stimulus alone would cause the Republican base to stay home.

I’d take Huck and Romney out of the top tier. I really think their day is done running for president. There are too many rising governors that will compete. Romney would be good in a Cabinet–perhaps there could be an Secretary of Economic Recovery from the Stimulus position created for him. :-)

Palin, Jindal, Sanford, perhaps Cantor for the top tier. They can all run rings around Crist.

INC on February 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Oh may the horror a honest politician the world must be coming to an end for shame, for shame.

These trolls just do not know what a hornets nest Gov. Palin can be when she speaks for herself. During the the campaign there was only two instance where Gov. Palin spoke in her own voice the convention and the debate. Oh by the way trolls Gov. Palin is the de facto leader of the GOP. Go ahead and underestimate Gov. Palin at your own peril. When Gov. Palin runs a campaign in her own voice I suggest you move a side before the female grizzle bear named Palin run you over. For me to see that would be sweet.

Clyde5445 on February 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Here’s a link to that Florida Chamber of Commerce poll.

The Florida Today is a liberal paper, hence the ridiculous headline they have.

It looks as if there was only one question:

“Do you strongly approve, somewhat approve, somewhat disapprove or strongly disapprove of the job Charlie Crist is doing as governor?”

The results:

Strongly Approve, 19 percent

Somewhat Approve, 54 percent

Somewhat Disapprove, 13 percent

Strongly Disapprove 7 percent

That’s sort of a meh response to him.

Read the comments! :-)

Also remember the national Chamber of Commerce was in favor of the stimulus.

INC on February 18, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Uh… USN (Ret) here….

Key is the law of unintended consequence.

Going to be interesting to see how they spin this out… as someone will notice the Per Diem of the Alaska National Guard… and it will be really intersting once they figure out that Govs are the Commanders of their State National Guards…

Remember, when it comes to state taxes, its only the State laws that matter…. and this throws the whole housing/ per diem/ ComRats thing into flux…

Romeo13 on February 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM

The problem Palin has,
She trusts people.
She believes in People,
She Loves People.

All three attributes the Libs are not even capable of bearing! She’s pure in her beliefs and has moral convictions…again another attribute Liberals do not espouse too. She does need to sharpen herself and she’ll do fine…refine what she believes and articulate the Conservative Ideals she espouses.

will sass u on February 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Dear God…are you for real!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

I voted for these turkeys because I figured that, as ghastly as candidates as they were, they were better than Hussein and HairPlugs.

And, yes, I think she won the debate with Biden….but that is like winning a game of darts with a blind man.

Got news for you Palin apologists and worshippers….even though she fired up the lower IQ portion of the republican base….she COST McCain more votes than she gained for him. The independents were, understandably, very nervous about having the woman who is no more experienced or intelligent than your next door neighbor lady being a hearbeat away from a 125 year old POTUS.

These people are pretty much the same clowns who supported Suckabee. As long as he/she is an “average joe” and is a Christian….even though getting pregnant before marriage is hardly fruits worthy of that title…they will support him/her.

These nutcases PREFER somebody who is “like them”. They dont like candidates that are self-made billionares, are hugely intelligent and accomplished because it makes them feel bad about themselves. SOOOOOO, a very very average woman is somebody that fires them up because it validates their own mediocre lives.

This last campaign may have cost our country its future, but the republicans demonstrated that they are morally vapid and not much better. I lost any faith that I had in the party of Ronald Reagan. Certainly, Bush screwed the economy as bad as most moderate democraps would.

However, I still vote republican because the alternative is worse. I just hope that the lower IQ Huckabee republicans dont cost us more elections like they did in the last one.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I wonder how many of those tax reviewers just got their kids orthodontists and college bills paid or have gotten themselves promises of a cozy job in the near future.

Obama and company are out to destroy any and all opposition.

However, Rhammie’s tax issues will slide by virtually un-noticed.

bullseye on February 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM

kcarpenter on February 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

If you would take three steps back and remove your blinders you would see that the naysayers beef is more with the slavish devotion exhibited rather than with Palin herself. Pulling the strings of those devotees is childs play.
What is her approval rate amongst the indies and dems? Gonna need some of those to win an election – you betcha by golly wow.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM

This last campaign may have cost our country its future, but the republicans demonstrated that they are morally vapid and not much better. I lost any faith that I had in the party of Ronald Reagan. Certainly, Bush screwed the economy as bad as most moderate democraps would.

However, I still vote republican because the alternative is worse. I just hope that the lower IQ Huckabee republicans dont cost us more elections like they did in the last one.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Why don’t you lay on as much verbiage in giving an alternative? Hell, anybody can pick anyone to pieces. It takes a little more of that “IQ” to show an alternate route. Maybe a nice Republican moderate at the Prez AND VP spots the next time around? How do you think McCain/Lieberman would’ve done? LOL Right.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:37 PM

If you would take three steps back and remove your blinders you would see that the naysayers beef is more with the slavish devotion exhibited rather than with Palin herself.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM

We have a chicken and egg thing here then. Which came first? The moonbat sliming of Palin, or the “slavish devotion”? The thing is, anything less than saying that Sarah Palin is an attractive white-trash bimbo is “slavish devotion”. Sorry, most of us don’t join in that particular groupthink.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:40 PM

INC on February 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM

I was referring to ‘at this time’ with my list and as Jetboy has pointed out things will be very different in a couple/three years. You are right in that the GOP has several rising stars and is building a pretty deep bench from my observations. I will agree with Clyde’s comment above that as it stands right now Palin is our defacto leader for many reasons. She is able to connect with and energize the base like none of the others seem to be able to do.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM

What is her approval rate amongst the indies and dems? Gonna need some of those to win an election – you betcha by golly wow.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Jesus Christ himself could come back and run as a Republican and he would probably not get more than a 10-20 percent approval rating from democraps

OTOH, if the red guy with the horns and pointy tail ran on the Democrap ticket, I’d guess he’d get about a 95 percent approval rating.

bullseye on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM

The independents were, understandably, very nervous about having the woman who is no more experienced or intelligent than your next door neighbor lady being a hearbeat away from a 125 year old POTUS.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Bullshit. They were conned by a non-stop Slime Machine. If they could swallow the idea of some lefty non-entity from Chicago as Prez, the lady next door shouldn’t have been a problem.

Folks like you always conveniently forget what happened to McCain in the polls up until the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy and the TARP shenanigans.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:46 PM

bullseye on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Write off the next several elections then.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:47 PM

goat, OK, that’s fine by me. The bench looks much, much better than last time.

Here’s an article about Sanford and DeMint. Sanford has a couple of comments about Crist towards the end.

INC on February 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Why don’t you lay on as much verbiage in giving an alternative? Hell, anybody can pick anyone to pieces. It takes a little more of that “IQ” to show an alternate route. Maybe a nice Republican moderate at the Prez AND VP spots the next time around? How do you think McCain/Lieberman would’ve done? LOL Right.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Well, lets see. If memory serves correctly, there was a republican running for office that Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, National Review and other ACTUAL INTELLIGENT CONSERVATIVES supported.

This candidate got a perfect score on his SAT. He had a law degree AND a MBA from Harvard University where he graduated Summa Cum Laude.

This candidate had an unblemished personal life. No divorces…no affairs (like McCain). Didnt get his wife pregnant before they were married.

He was a guy who made about 2 billion for himself and billions more for stockholders. This candidate knew the economy better than anybody running in either party…knew the economy better than any candidate in the last 30 years at least.

This candidate was articulate…unlike McCain. This candidate was brilliant and accomplished, unlike the flute-playing, tax-cheating beauty queen embarrassment.

This candidate was got himself elected as a republican in the most blue state in the country.

This man has run multi-billion dollar enterprises in 20+ countries and was known as a turnaround specialist, a deal-maker, and an inspirational leader.

But, he didnt have a chance. You see, the lying bastard McCain with his girlfriend Grahmnesty teamed up with the evil Suckabee to keep him out. They tag teamed him. They even threw their votes to the 3rd place winner in West Virginia to keep him from winning, thus depriving him of his win in West Virginia…they manipulated the caucus process. They lied about him wanting a time-table to withdraw troops from Iraq. And evil satan worshipping Huckabee played to the bigot wing of the party.

The only problem with the obvious choice was the dumb wing of the party didnt like the church he attended.

does that answer your question ddrintn???

I voted for McCain in the general election but I am glad he lost…I hate that guy…just not as much as Huckabee.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM

bullseye on February 18, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Write off the next several elections then.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Sure. Let’s see what inflation and unemployment levels are in, say, October 2012.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Well, lets see. If memory serves correctly, there was a republican running for office that Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, National Review and other ACTUAL INTELLIGENT CONSERVATIVES supported.

This candidate got a perfect score on his SAT. He had a law degree AND a MBA from Harvard University where he graduated Summa Cum Laude.

This candidate had an unblemished personal life. No divorces…no affairs (like McCain). Didnt get his wife pregnant before they were married.

He was a guy who made about 2 billion for himself and billions more for stockholders. This candidate knew the economy better than anybody running in either party…knew the economy better than any candidate in the last 30 years at least.

This candidate was articulate…unlike McCain. This candidate was brilliant and accomplished, unlike the flute-playing, tax-cheating beauty queen embarrassment.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Ahhh. Another embittered Romney supporter. Hey, I kinda liked Romney too, but if he couldn’t win the Republican primary, what makes you think he’d have done any better in the general election? He couldn’t handle McCain, but he could’ve handled Obama and his sycophantic media? By the time they were through with Romney and his penchant for the timely flip-flop, “flute playing beauty queen” would be an extreme compliment.

By the way, I couldn’t care less about Ivy League degrees or SAT scores, or whether his wife was a virgin when they married or any of that crap. I thought those things mattered to those low IQ Rethuglicans.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:57 PM

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 8:02 PM
I think I’m in love.

SnarkVader on February 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM

Get a room.

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:52 PM

We shall see but the Palin love will have long since faded by then.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I am hardly low IQ and Sarah Palin fired me up and not just with her looks. I was a fan before she got tapped by McCain as his VEEP. I was and still am a Romneyite and was pulling for him to be tapped but I also cheered when he tapped Palin as his wingman. I will also have you know it takes a whole lot more smarts and savvy to live and survive in a backwoods place like Alaska than to be a beltway elitist looking down their nose at us unwashed masses. Your attitude is far worse for the GOP than Sarah Palin ever will be. To be very blunt you sir/madam are an asshat in the first degree.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

as a Virginian, I am very proud of Eric Cantor’s leadership in Congress (even though he’s not my congressman). However, no one has ever described Cong. Cantor as charismatic. or zippy. or humorous. I wish he would stay in Congress where he can be a real rock or run for governor of Virginia.

kelley in virginia on February 18, 2009 at 9:59 PM

We shall see but the Palin love will have long since faded by then.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Yeah, we’ll see. Charlie Crist is gonna do it baby! Or Tim Pawlenty. Or some other easy target for the Democrats. Bob Dole redux, that’s what they want.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Well, lets see. If memory serves correctly, there was a republican running for office that Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, National Review and other ACTUAL INTELLIGENT CONSERVATIVES supported.

This candidate got a perfect score on his SAT. He had a law degree AND a MBA from Harvard University where he graduated Summa Cum Laude.

This candidate had an unblemished personal life. No divorces…no affairs (like McCain). Didnt get his wife pregnant before they were married.

He was a guy who made about 2 billion for himself and billions more for stockholders. This candidate knew the economy better than anybody running in either party…knew the economy better than any candidate in the last 30 years at least.

This candidate was articulate…unlike McCain. This candidate was brilliant and accomplished, unlike the flute-playing, tax-cheating beauty queen embarrassment.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Something about Romney just doesn’t connect with people. We run stiff Romney against American Idol Obama…

let’s just say the results will be predictable.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Something about Romney just doesn’t connect with people. We run stiff Romney against American Idol Obama…

let’s just say the results will be predictable.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 10:01 PM

The Democrats aren’t shaking in their boots at the prospect of a Romney candidacy. You have to look at the amount of vitriol that’s been heaped on Palin since August 29. here’s a reason for it.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:04 PM

*There’s

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:04 PM

By the way, I couldn’t care less about Ivy League degrees or SAT scores, or whether his wife was a virgin when they married or any of that crap. I thought those things mattered to those low IQ Rethuglicans.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Really? Intelligence doesnt matter to you? OK, I get it. You RELATE better with dumber people. Really REALLY smart people kinda make you nervous and bad when you pass by a mirror.

He wouldve beat Obama’s ass. When the economy hit the credit crunch, he wouldnt have done the David Letterman, suspend-my-campaign, bankers-are-evil dance. I mean, what a clown. Yeah, too much greed…yeah thats hit McCain. Well, not everybody gets to make their wealth my divorcing their wife who got fat from a car accident, found a sugar momma to cheat with and marry into money and then….get this for intelligence….FORGOT HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS!!! HA HA HA HA!!! WTF!!! WHAT KIND OF CLOWN DID WE PUT UP FOR THE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ANYWAY???

Romney wouldve beat Hussein’s ass because he was much smarter and more articulate than teleprompter boy. McCain was dumber than Obama so….that took care of that…didnt it???

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:05 PM

ooops, made a mistake…I meant to say that Obama is more intelligent than McCain. That shouldve been obvious but just to clear it up.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM

I am by no means low IQ and it is very insulting to imply otherwise. I was fired up by Sarah Palin and I was a fan before she got tapped by McCain as his wingman. I am a Romneyite and hoped he would get the slot but I cheered when Sarah was chosen. I will have you know it takes far more smarts and savvy to survive in the semi-backwoods that is Alaska than among the beltway elite in some city looking down their collective noses at the unwashed masses that love her. You sir/madam are nothing but a condescending elitist jerk that does more damage to the GOP than Sarah Palin could ever do.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM

This candidate had an unblemished personal life. No divorces…no affairs (like McCain). Didnt get his wife pregnant before they were married.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Didn’t this Glowing Example of Righteousness kill the Mormon Bishops wife in a car wreck while on a mission in France back in 1968? A Rich daddy at home running for President? Maybe some people got paid off? Following the logic? It might not be true but Hey, Palin is guilty of everything so ….

Everyone has baggage Mr. THE WALL. Some not so pretty.

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Wow, thats the first time I heard about that one…seriously.

So, you equate cheating on your wife, marrying the lady you cheated with to get rich as equivalent as getting in an auto accident???

You sound like some kind of stupid evangelical christian or something…

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:09 PM

You sound like some kind of stupid evangelical christian or something…

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:09 PM

No. Just someone who likes to watch people who think they are the smartest people in the room to eat crow. Once piece at a time.

Open wide.

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 10:11 PM

The Democrats aren’t shaking in their boots at the prospect of a Romney candidacy. You have to look at the amount of vitriol that’s been heaped on Palin since August 29. here’s a reason for it.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:04 PM

I do remember during the primaries I did see some contempt towards Romney coming from the media also. Albeit not Palin level of hate.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Really? Intelligence doesnt matter to you? OK, I get it. You RELATE better with dumber people. Really REALLY smart people kinda make you nervous and bad when you pass by a mirror.

Oh, I admire intelligence a great deal. Romney’s intelligent for sure, but I wonder where he would’ve gotten without that silver spoon.

FYI, “intelligence” doesn’t always equal “perfect SAT score” or “Harvard”. Clear enough?

He wouldve beat Obama’s ass.

Dream on. Not after the “meltdown” in September.

When the economy hit the credit crunch, he wouldnt have done the David Letterman, suspend-my-campaign, bankers-are-evil dance. I mean, what a clown. Yeah, too much greed…yeah thats hit McCain. Well, not everybody gets to make their wealth my divorcing their wife who got fat from a car accident, found a sugar momma to cheat with and marry into money and then….get this for intelligence….FORGOT HOW MANY HOUSES HE OWNS!!! HA HA HA HA!!! WTF!!! WHAT KIND OF CLOWN DID WE PUT UP FOR THE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ANYWAY???

Didn’t Romney change his position on the bailouts?

Romney wouldve beat Hussein’s ass because he was much smarter and more articulate than teleprompter boy. McCain was dumber than Obama so….that took care of that…didnt it???

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Hmmmmm…I wouldn’t say that Obama is “smarter” than McCain, or that Romney is smarter, or that my dad can beat up your dad.

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM

I just read that article about the car accident. Sounds like it was a consensus that a drunk catholic priest caused the accident. You really are a piece of trash, arent you??

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM

I just read that article about the car accident. Sounds like it was a consensus that a drunk catholic priest caused the accident. You really are a piece of trash, arent you??

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM

And from what I can tell Sarah Palin isn’t a “tax cheat”, as you said. What’s with calling people “trash”?

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:16 PM

I do remember during the primaries I did see some contempt towards Romney coming from the media also. Albeit not Palin level of hate.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Remember when Palin was picked and the media/Obama Inc. was ccaught so flat footed? They were stumbling all over themselves trying to find their wits. They already had the Anti-Romney 24hour reel hit pieces all qued up and ready to play. All the anti romney documentaries, “he comes from a long line of polygamists”, They were so stunned. Too bad they were so good at destroying Palin so early, I think they could have carried the victory off if it weren’t for the economic bullsh*t.

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 10:17 PM

No, Romney didnt change his position on bailouts. He supported, as did I, the intial bailout of banks to calm investors down. He wrote a long highly-regarded op ed piece about how we should let the auto industries go into a controlled Chapter 11, instead of bailing them out.

Palin couldnt write a piece like that…hell, she probably couldnt READ a piece like that.

And how about McCain’s girlfriend, Lindsey Grahmnesty saying over the weekend we may need to nationalize the banks. Lindsey is McCain….just sounds dumber with the accent.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Its not Palin’s fault, but the financial meltdown made any benefit she gave to McCain seem miniscule compared to what a VP with economic experience would have brought.

Speedwagon82 on February 18, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Romney wouldve beat Hussein’s ass because he was much smarter and more articulate than teleprompter boy. McCain was dumber than Obama so….that took care of that…didnt it???

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:05 PM

I like Mittens on general principles (aside from his flip-flopping and penchant for socialized medicine), but he would have been crucified by the Obamedia. By the time they finished with him, he would have been the flip-flopping Wall Street architect of the sub-prime collapse.

You do know Sarah Palin is a Brainiac with a photographic memory, right?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 10:18 PM

And from what I can tell Sarah Palin isn’t a “tax cheat”, as you said. What’s with calling people “trash”?

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 10:16 PM

I dont normally call people “trash” but that guy suggested that Romney had a guilty past from an auto accident that he was involved in in France. Then, when you read the story, its a consensus that it wasnt his fault, it was a drunk catholic priest, but the mormon church didnt sue because of the bad publicity of having a church sue another church.

Yep, impugning somebody’s charactar like that…that is a piece of trash.

The Wall on February 18, 2009 at 10:20 PM

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