Alaska officials: Palin owes back taxes

posted at 5:44 pm on February 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Good news: She’s officially qualified to serve in Obama’s cabinet.

Gov. Sarah Palin must pay income taxes on thousands of dollars in expense money she received while living at her Wasilla home, under a new determination by state officials.

The governor’s office wouldn’t say this week how much she owes in back taxes for meal money, or whether she intends to continue to receive the per diem allowance. As of December, she was still charging the state for meals and incidentals…

“Last fall we raised questions about longstanding practices within the Department of Administration regarding tax treatment of per diem payments,” Kreitzer wrote in an exchange of e-mails over the past few days with the Daily News.

“At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” [state administration commissioner Annette] Kreitzer wrote. “As a result of this review, we determined that per diem needs to be treated as income, requiring a revision of W-2 forms for any affected employees.”

Remember when WaPo broke the per diem story last fall? It was 10 days after McCain picked her, during the momentary lull between the media obsessing about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy and the media obsessing about Palin’s tanning bed. Team Maverick defended her for billing the state for nights away from Juneau spent in her own home in Wasilla, but the practice was sufficiently unusual that she evidently opted for full transparency and ordered a state review. Shrewd move: As embarrassing as it is to have this come out so soon after Geithner and Daschle, it would have been more embarrassing still to have it come up again in a future primary.

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2012 is a long way off. Anything can happen ’til then. Just simmah a bit.

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 6:32 PM

JetBoy, who’s your pick for GOP front-runner? McCain again? Lindsey Graham? Offer some alternatives if you don’t like Palin.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM

I’m going by my memory only, so bear with me, but I thought the whole point of her taking the per diem from home was because the state capital residence in Juneau was unliveable while they were doing extensive repairs which took several months. They were going to put her and her family up in a local hotel for the restoration period, but she decided to stay at home and she cut the per diem fee down from what other administrations used to be allocated. Overall, it cost the state less money to do it this way. However, when she got picked as VP nom. some partisons got the media involved what was an accepted practice for Alaska into a “that’s not how other states do it” meme.

LAW on February 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Sooo from my understanding neither her nor the state had qualified this as taxable until now….therefore this doesnt count as tax evasion

alexraye on February 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM

The NYT’s will never hire you.

darwin on February 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM

ahhh man….i guess that rules out PMSNBC as well….

alexraye on February 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 6:52 PM

We all know that Sarah Palin will be a player if she runs in 2012.

We all have eyes. Sarah Palin is a superstar.

Think of sports critics or pundits-do they spend their time talking about journeymen players or do they spend 99% of their time talking about superstar players like A-Rod, Peyton Manning, Lebron James, or Tiger Woods.

On HA I would venture a guess that of the conservative or Republican politicians discussed on the various threads since the beginning of the year at least 80%, maybe more, of the attention has been focused on Sarah Palin.

This really says it all. The people have spoken. If other GOP or conservative politicians make inroads I will be the first to admit that Sarah has some competition, but as of now her comeptition doesn’t appear daunting.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM

JetBoy, who’s your pick for GOP front-runner? McCain again? Lindsey Graham? Offer some alternatives if you don’t like Palin.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM

It’s far too early to even think about that. The world can change in a heartbeat at any time until then. Ask Dubya.

But as far as potential candidates, I like Jodi Rell (Conn. governor) or perhaps Charlie Crist. Maybe Bobby Jindal. Again, way too early to shove anyone out in front.

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM

the Governor’s Mansion in Juneau is a defective place with bad plumbing that needs to be turned into a museum.

A glance at the expense report reproduced on the Post’s website shows that she requested per diem for her daily expenses, but not for lodging, and that she apparently wrote “lodging–own home” only to explain why she wasn’t requesting hotel expenses. The story notes that Palin rarely charged the state for meals when in Wasilla and Anchorage because she instead just asked for the per diem!

And Palin didn’t list Juneau as her residence, it’s state law.

I am not aware of that law. Can you cite it?

maleman on February 18, 2009 at 7:05 PM

JetBoy: Er, Crist? Not exactly someone I’d recommend. I don’t know Rell, but from what I know I’d be perfectly happy with Jindal.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:06 PM

Sarah Palin is Phil Hughes in drag…..

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 7:06 PM

still talking about this, personally I believe this will harden support and some people on the fence who know Palin as a caricature on SNL are more likely not less to vote for her based on the facts.

rob verdi on February 18, 2009 at 7:06 PM

But as far as potential candidates, I like Jodi Rell (Conn. governor) or perhaps Charlie Crist. Maybe Bobby Jindal. Again, way too early to shove anyone out in front.

Right, but none of these people are really in the national conversation. Palin is by virtue of her spot on the ticket. That doesn’t make it worship when people defend her. She’s the top target for any anti-R shots, so R’s got her back. That doesn’t make her wonder woman, though she’s pretty damn cool.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

After the Geithner and Daschle clusterfarks? It’s embarrassing for any politician to owe back taxes.

Allahpundit on February 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Sighs at Allah….

Since Palin let go of the Gov. Mansion Chef, that save about 40K a year. Only takes flights on Coach to Juneau, which saves about 500 ddollars per round trip ticket, sold the “Gov.’s Jet” and a few other things. You are going to be a complete jerk about Per Diem, since she does most of the business in Anchorage not Juneau, to save the Tax Payers and those who come to the meetings (since most go to Anchorage first via flights anyways)… how is that not conservative?

http://dop.state.ak.us/docpool/pdf/sop/Ch08TravelasTimeWorked/traveltimeworkSOPrev1.pdf

Since Palin doesn’t have to fly to Juneau due to the office in Anchorage yet can be held at the Office due to schedule changes, she is alloted Per Diem.

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

All Alaska legislators get per diem

I find this whole per diem thing strange anyway. I have been in the military 23 years and get paid per diem whenever I’m away from my official duty station – because I am away from the chow hall, which is included in my “benefits”. It’s never been taxable.

Palin had a state-provided chef, who she got rid of. Instead she gets her own food and cooks it herself. When the legislature is not in session she shuts down the Governor’s Mansion with its free chow and servants, and saves the state money by living in her own house.

She doesn’t charge the state for lodging, only for meals in Anchorage where she has her office. This is a scandal?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Atlanta: And where do you fit in the fact that Palin requested her audit?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 6:59 PM

She probably was told by her advisors that this would be discovered sooner or later given all of the scruttiny that the taxes of Democratic politcians have received lately. Reemeber, Tom Dascle also “voluntarily” paid his taxes; the IRS was not on to him.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:08 PM

She probably was told by her advisors that this would be discovered sooner or later given all of the scruttiny that the taxes of Democratic politcians have received lately. Reemeber, Tom Dascle also “voluntarily” paid his taxes; the IRS was not on to him.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Actually this was brought up three months ago. Time to get with the program.

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Spirit: Jindal does get mentions, and should soon get more.

Jim: It’s a scandal for a Republican. Didn’t you get your social programming for the month?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Jim: It’s a scandal for a Republican. Didn’t you get your social programming for the month?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM

How is it a scandal?

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Did you know that Ronald Reagan refused to live in the California Governor’s Mansion, and got his own place instead?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Atlanta: A bit behind the times, are we not? Thanks for the assist, upinak.

If you are a conservative, Atlanta, I might suggest a closer attention to the thread of politics.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Palin had a state-provided chef, who she got rid of.

ADN-”Palin fires Chef, ads to unemployment numbers”

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Governor of state requests inquiry of per diem to see if taxes may be due, caused by unweildy tax code. Inquiry finds compliance issue. Governor files amended tax return and pays appropriate taxes. Before tax deadline.

I wish all Governors were as up front with issues that are ‘fuzzy’. Oregon Gov Free Spend Ted could use a lesson. Too bad it’s a blue state.

ammon_of_cs on February 18, 2009 at 7:11 PM

upinak: It’s a scandal due to the fact that it superficially resembles embarrassing scandals happening to the other party. This gives the media the perfect excuse to jump on this with both guns.

Remember, ‘never let a crisis (or scandal) go to waste’. What we are seeing here is the means to the liberal end.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Mark Sanford in 2012. Read his editorials in the Wall Street Journal and research his background as gov. of South Carolina.

He’s solid. Palin’s young–she could be his VP nominee, or head the Dept of Energy to get the national experience she needs to be a credible POTUS nominee.

It sucks, but she will have to be better than WJC or GWB were when they won as governors because she’s a woman who didn’t go to elite universities.

funky chicken on February 18, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Actually this was brought up three months ago. Time to get with the program.

upinak on February 18, 2009 at 7:09 PM

This actually strengthens my argument that Governor Palin was not entirely virtuous in her disclosure, which she apparently delayed.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:13 PM

She doesn’t charge the state for lodging, only for meals in Anchorage where she has her office. This is a scandal?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

That is a trick question:
Clothes…scandal
Trig…scandal
Bristol…scandal
Firing a loser…scandal
Packing the arenas with screaming fans…scandal
Protecting the endangered Caribou…scandal
Hunting…scandal
Fishing…scandal
Going to more then one college…scandal
Being a beauty queen…scandal
Pardoning a turkey…scandal
Living in Alaska…scandal
Talking like a normal person…scandal
Being a mom…scandal
Eating meat that she hunted…scandal
Talking to Greta…scandal
Not providing Trig’s DNA…scandal
Not looking pregnant…scandal
Returning clothes…scandal
Everything she does is a scandal…living in a nice home…scandal

right2bright on February 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Just Make this Headline:
Palin Internal Request Changes Taxable Income

rob verdi on February 18, 2009 at 7:15 PM

This actually strengthens my argument that Governor Palin was not entirely virtuous in her disclosure, which she apparently delayed.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:13 PM

She is the one who asked for the investigation…no one knows all the applicable laws, until they are defined, she asked for a definition…sheesh!

right2bright on February 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Ummm, Atlanta… Palin herself brought this up a while ago. Could you please _research_ this topic before you try to discuss it?

I seem to recall a lot of issues regarding this back in October. Look at news from then.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Right, but none of these people are really in the national conversation. Palin is by virtue of her spot on the ticket. That doesn’t make it worship when people defend her. She’s the top target for any anti-R shots, so R’s got her back. That doesn’t make her wonder woman, though she’s pretty damn cool.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Defending Palin is one thing…trashing and deriding anyone who doesn’t fully support her as a frontrunner is another.

As for the “national spotlight”, again…it’s way early. And the ONLY reason she’s in the spotlight is, as you said, because McCain put her there when he picked her. If not for that, she’d be in the same spot as the others. Let her performance in Alaska speak for her. Not her 15 minutes of fame.

JetBoy: Er, Crist? Not exactly someone I’d recommend. I don’t know Rell, but from what I know I’d be perfectly happy with Jindal.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:06 PM

Yeah, Crist. He’s got the drive. We agree on Jindal, cool. Rell was Lt. Governor, and took over when Gov. Roland resigned over receiving gifts and cheap prices for his home renovation from a company who got sweetheart state contracts. She took control immediately, and put words into action. For example, Conn. needed more commuter train cars badly. In her first few week on the job, she got a good price on some used train cars from Virginia. They were shipped up, and when told they needed to be repainted with the “MTA” logo (the all had the Virgina logo’s on them) she said “Get them on the tracks. We’ll paint them later”

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM

BTW, right2bright, mind if I steal that litany for a .sig? ;)

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Let me repeat: “You cannot be delinquent on paying your taxes if it was not determined by law at the time that you should be paying taxes on something.”

This has recently been determined. Sarah Palin has paid her taxes. End of story.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM

If all Ak lawmakers get this per diem and it wasn’t reported as taxable income on the tax forms they were sent by the state then they all owe back taxes. Gov. Palin was unsure of this practice and requested a review to see if it was correct.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM

This actually strengthens my argument that Governor Palin was not entirely virtuous in her disclosure, which she apparently delayed.

Good grief, how do you delay an inquiry that you yourself are asking for??

Erich66 on February 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM

So AP, you got me out of bed to defend my girl AGAIN?

Some observations:

Sarah has a per diem because she is away from Juneau on official governor business.

Sarah saves the state money by staying at home at eating her wonderful budget-conscious moose chili. Her per diem is low by business standards.

She professionally requested a review of the tax consequences of the per diem because she has a servant’s heart and sincerely wanted to pay the legal and proper tax despite the fact she is for low taxes. This must have absolutely been so hard for her being a low-tax Republican and parting with her hard earned money, like when she had to give up her first son to the Army. Such duty to country and the people.

And, she cannot be in the wax museum because she is just too hot right now and would melt herself.

And yes, AP, you putting out these Palin threads and then getting jumped on by all the Cuda’s loyal fanatical fans is like watching a swarm of ants attack the intruder bug as it gets near the Queen: Brutal but fascinating to watch.

Exit question: What’s it like getting your limbs ripped off every thread you do this?

I don’t know who is braver: AP antagonizing Mommabear, or Hitch giving Lebanese thugs grammar tips.

Sapwolf on February 18, 2009 at 7:18 PM

JetBoy: Rell sounds good, but Crist… (this _is_ referring to the Florida governor, yes?) I live in Florida, and I don’t plan on voting for him.

Can you give me some good reasons to vote for him?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM

He’s a talented writer who wasn’t afraid to mock jihadis just after 9/11…

Esthier on February 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Yeah, mocking Muslim fundamentalists after 9/11 took such political courage.

I don’t care if he’s a beta male, an alpha male, or a delta male. He’s an ass. I love the layout of his website though. To the extent that he’s responsible for this layout, he’s a genius. But it says at the bottom of the screen that the blog was designed by “The Blog Studio,” so I doubt that AssPedant had much to do with it. Memeorandum provides him his daily links. He gets to cut and paste and provide snotty asides. I don’t mind that he’s not a Palin fan. That’s fine. It’s the condescending contempt that he has for her and the willful distortion of her record that really that makes me dislike him.

He’s the Lower 48′s version of Dan Fagan.

ramrocks on February 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Daschle-Palin 2012!! “Tax dodges cuts for the little people”

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:21 PM

“At the Governor’s request, we reviewed the situation to determine whether we were in full compliance with the pertinent Internal Revenue Service regulations,” [state administration commissioner Annette] Kreitzer wrote

Get it? sheesh people. Those with PDS have truly lost it.

CWforFreedom on February 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM

If Sarah Palin requested an investigation, she must have recognized the problem. Therefore, she must have known that she should have never requested the per diem money in the first place.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Bradky please tell me specifically how DashHole and Palins tax situations compare. You are very simplistic…as usual.

CWforFreedom on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Atlanta is a Moby troll, pose as a republican and spout lefty talking points.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

She is the one who asked for the investigation…no one knows all the applicable laws, until they are defined, she asked for a definition…sheesh!

right2bright on February 18, 2009 at 7:16 PM

If Sarah Palin requested an investigation, she must have recognized the problem. Therefore, she must have known that she should have never requested the per diem money in the first place.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Must be reading minds. I bet your post says more about you than Palin.

PDS is dangerous.

CWforFreedom on February 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Atlanta: Almost right. If Palin requested an investigation, she must have recognized _that there might be a problem_.

If you assume she’s omniscient, of course, you’re correct. However, you seem to misunderstand the human condition.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:25 PM

When U.S. military personnel go to Anchorage, they are allowed $78 per day per diem for meals. Palin’s per diem was way lower even than that!

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Goat: Actually, I’m not completely sure. I think that Atlanta is a ‘lapsed conservative’. At least AV’s coherent, right?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:27 PM

If Sarah Palin requested an investigation, she must have recognized the problem. Therefore, she must have known that she should have never requested the per diem money in the first place.

This makes zero sense. How many tax cheats request to get caught? Asking for clarification to assure you’re in compliance and knowing something is wrong but doing it anyway aren’t quite the same thing, if you haven’t figured that out. Lord.

Erich66 on February 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM

CWforFreedom on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

They represent the yin and yang of tax dodges. Daschle just didn’t pay his. Palin took but told. By any other name bipartisanship at its finest.

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM

JetBoy: Rell sounds good, but Crist… (this _is_ referring to the Florida governor, yes?) I live in Florida, and I don’t plan on voting for him.

Can you give me some good reasons to vote for him?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Crist is the orangest Obama-lover in national politics!

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM

OK, I don’t understand something. Crist continues to poll high amongst Floridians, but the people I know in Florida all don’t like him. Can’t figure that out.

But Crist may run for Senate as I’m sure you’re aware.

All in all, I think he’s got the best chance to win the White House. Who else does the GOP have with such wide appeal?

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Must be reading minds. I bet your post says more about you than Palin.

PDS is dangerous.

No. I just think it’s time for a new direction for the Party. I think the template we should be looking at are Republicans like Charley Crist and Tim Pawlenty.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Jim: Hence why I don’t like him. I would like to hear a differing opinion, though.

Oh, drat, did I just expose my conservative nature?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Scott H, I am convinced by comments made on other threads as well.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:31 PM

All in all, I think he’s got the best chance to win the White House. Who else does the GOP have with such wide appeal?

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Jetboy,

I bet most of Americans don’t even have a clue who he is.

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 7:31 PM

ddrintn on February 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM

I definitely wouldn’t let anyone dictate who our candidate should be; however, we need someone with as much, or more, bravado than obummer. As I said, I like SP and I think she’s been vilified, but we need someone who will be able to take the attacks and fight back with a resounding and convincing voice.
Additionally, I think conservatives in every state should start finding and promoting candidates now and not wait until the 2010 and 2012 election cycles. We need to beat the liberals at their own game and that means not waiting to find candidates to get behind, creating our own MSM outlets and technological capabilities, defining not redefining what conservatives are about, organizing grass root efforts, etc. There are so many conservative sites reporting the news and not enough conservatives organizing, for lack of a better word.

txag92 on February 18, 2009 at 7:32 PM

JetBoy: First and foremost, a candidate must carry his base. Crist would not get my vote, from what I know about him. Therefore, I’m not sure how you can classify his appeal as ‘wide’. He may carry centrists and even some liberals, but if I’m representative of the base, he doesn’t enthuse the base. This is the McCain recipe, and I think we’ve seen how it failed.

Again, can you tell me policy points or issues you can point to about Crist that makes him conservative?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

If Sarah had tried to hide the per diem allowance and not asked for the investigation to whether she should pay taxes on it, then you would have accused her of trying to EVADE PAYING TAXES and accused her of being like Al Capone.

You can’t have it both ways. Like a golfer Sarah called a penalty on herself and as a result had to pay a price. And like a golfer it was up to her discretion to do so. It’s called honor and integrity. You golfers out there, you know what I am talking about.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:33 PM

No. I just think it’s time for a new direction for the Party. I think the template we should be looking at are Republicans like Charley Crist and Tim Pawlenty.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Oh. My. God. Is a mob of moderates going to march on Washington with Orange Charlie and T-Paw signs, demanding slightly fewer federal bailouts and a slightly slower growth in federal power-grabs?

This is a time for bold conservative vision, not Marxist-lite.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:33 PM

That’s why I quit playing golf.

Erich66 on February 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Goat: That’s as may be; I can only judge by here. If so, AV is certainly intelligent enough to do ‘plausible deniability’ well.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Defending Palin is one thing…trashing and deriding anyone who doesn’t fully support her as a frontrunner is another.

I must have missed those comments.

As for the “national spotlight”, again…it’s way early. And the ONLY reason she’s in the spotlight is, as you said, because McCain put her there when he picked her. If not for that, she’d be in the same spot as the others. Let her performance in Alaska speak for her. Not her 15 minutes of fame.

I agree, but she’s there nonetheless. Therefore she’s the topic until someone else does something more newsworthy.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Good analogy with golf there, she was unsure so she asked for clarification. Like I said I think this looks good on her not bad.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:37 PM

If Sarah Palin requested an investigation, she must have recognized the problem. Therefore, she must have known that she should have never requested the per diem money in the first place.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:23 PM

She only discovered that there might be a problem when the MSM published a story about her per diem expenses and the nation’s tax lawyers began arguing with each other about whether or not per diems are taxable income. Before that, no one gave the per diems a second thought. Alaskan state legislators who don’t live in Juneau receive a non-taxable stipend for living expenses during the legislative session. Alaska is “different.” The state’s capital, and the official governor’s residence is Juneau, but the center of business is Anchorage. It makes sense for the governor to work out of her Anchorage office most of the year. That’s where all the action is.

ramrocks on February 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Good analogy with golf there, she was unsure so she asked for clarification. Like I said I think this looks good on her not bad.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Not if Allah has anything to say about it. I forget – did Allah ever correct his lie that Palin was for the Porkulus?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM

techno: Of course liberals can have it both ways. Silly conservative, don’t you know that there are no absolutes?

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM

I think Sarah’s great but I am still a Romneyite for now but that could change.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM

How come nobody says anything about all the Illinois corruptocrats who are based in Springfield but spend all their time up in Chicago?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM

did Allah ever correct his lie that Palin was for the Porkulus?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Why do you come to a site at which you believe the writers are liars?

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Why do you come to a site at which you believe the writers are liars?

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Why do you come to a conservative site when you’re obviously an Axelturfing troll?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Jim, I think Allah is just being his usual snarky self to generate threads. I don’t believe he dislikes her, at least I don’t get that feel from his posts.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:40 PM

If Romney gets the nod in 2012 I will support him. Obama has to be defeated in 2012. Nothing is more important in the next 4 years than working for his removal.

technopeasant on February 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Actually I’m a conservative and like a good conservative I treat the hosts at the places I visit with respect.
Liberals are the name callers – so you must be Arianna??

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Oh. My. God. Is a mob of moderates going to march on Washington with Orange Charlie and T-Paw signs, demanding slightly fewer federal bailouts and a slightly slower growth in federal power-grabs?

This is a time for bold conservative vision, not Marxist-lite.

This is not a constructive attitude. First, Palin is a incredibly polarizing figure. Second, Alaska is in the bag for the GOP. On ther hand, Florida and Minnesota are must-win swing states.

I live in a city. I’m tired of being embarassed by the leaders of my party. I’m tired of not being able to defend my Party when I talk to co-workers and friends. If you guys nominate Palin, I’m going to bolt. I almost did last year, but opted not to vote at all.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Palin pays what she is told to pay, and now it’s “Back Taxes”. OOHH NOOO!

But the Dear Leader gets away with this crap? Yeah. Let’s keep attacking Palin!

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM

If she legitimately owes back taxes, she should pay them, and I’ve no doubt she will.

But – this sounds like it may not be over, and I suspect (as usual) there’s a political revenge motive behind this…Aside from just the usual “let’s all pounce on Palin” BS.

*wonderment – a thread about Palin, and I don’t see that shrill Deb Schlussel in here, bitching and moaning, giving clues to a perhaps morbid obsession with all-things-Palin. Maybe I missed it, thus far? *yawn

Talismen on February 18, 2009 at 7:47 PM

I can’t believe moderates are still pushing their lame candidates like Rell, Crist, or Pawlenty.

Hey moderates, here’s a big clue-bat…we gave you your chance with McCain, and the result was EPIC FAIL. Conservatives stayed home in droves.

Get in the back seat and let the adults drive for a while.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Jim, I think Allah is just being his usual snarky self to generate threads. I don’t believe he dislikes her, at least I don’t get that feel from his posts.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:43 PM

If he is doing this just as an easy way to generate traffic then it is actually worse than doing it because it is his real opinion of the woman.

Mark1971 on February 18, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Scott H…

Check this out:

http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2009/02/poll-73-dig-cha.html

Crist has over 70% approval rating in Fla.

Sorry, I’ll explain why Crist should be appealing to conservatives. I’m zipping back and forth between here and my LOST blog. (I’m addicted to that show, it’s on tonight)

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Techno, I believe Mitt would have won the nomination if we had closed primaries. He may have even been able to pull it off if he hadn’t pulled out after Feb.5th.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:49 PM

I’m tired of not being able to defend my Party when I talk to co-workers and friends.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Than become a republican and be proud.

portlandon on February 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Give me the link to that lost blog….

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM

This is not a constructive attitude. First, Palin is a incredibly polarizing figure. Second, Alaska is in the bag for the GOP. On ther hand, Florida and Minnesota are must-win swing states.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Yeah, how did those great Republican leaders Crist and Pawlenty do at keeping/bringing those states into the red column?

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I live in a city. I’m tired of being embarassed by the leaders of my party. I’m tired of not being able to defend my Party when I talk to co-workers and friends. If you guys nominate Palin, I’m going to bolt. I almost did last year, but opted not to vote at all.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:46 PM

May ask what you are so embarrassed about?

terryannonline on February 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM

AV: Polarizing doesn’t mean ‘bad’. Obama was also incredibly polarizing. And he just becomes moreso.

I can tell you, as a conservative in Florida, that if you run a conservative, we’ll vote for them.

Honestly, AV, accepting your bona fides for the moment, why should you be embarrassed by conservative leaders? It sounds like you let the opposition define the argument, which puts you on the defensive and forces a loss of control on your part. Don’t let them do that.

I must say, Palin’s conservative credentials are quite good. If people look down on her for her roots, that’s a sign that you shouldn’t take them seriously. The vast majority of Americans have the same background as Palin, and so anyone who looks down on Palin for her background doesn’t have a very good opinion of Americans in general.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Remember all those tired screes about how Palin would drag McCain’s Rino behind across the finish line in November. Looks like that didn’t work out too well. What is her excuse?

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:52 PM

What is her excuse?

McCain’s yips with TARP.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Sorry, I’ll explain why Crist should be appealing to conservatives. I’m zipping back and forth between here and my LOST blog. (I’m addicted to that show, it’s on tonight)

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Will it be similar to the reason McCain should have been appealing to conservatives?

Oh, and shout-out on Lost – the show is back! I DVR’d it tonight, so no spoilers! I still haven’t figured out why Ji Yeon doesn’t have to go back to The Island. :)

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM

TimeTraveler on February 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/

JetBoy on February 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

“I almost did last year, but opted not to vote at all.

Atlanta Voter”

Irony intentional or not?

notropis on February 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

May ask what you are so embarrassed about?

Let’s just say, a lot.

Atlanta Voter on February 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM

That is a trick question:
Clothes…scandal
Trig…scandal
Bristol…scandal
Firing a loser…scandal
Packing the arenas with screaming fans…scandal
Protecting the endangered Caribou…scandal
Hunting…scandal
Fishing…scandal
Going to more then one college…scandal
Being a beauty queen…scandal
Pardoning a turkey…scandal
Living in Alaska…scandal
Talking like a normal person…scandal
Being a mom…scandal
Eating meat that she hunted…scandal
Talking to Greta…scandal
Not providing Trig’s DNA…scandal
Not looking pregnant…scandal
Returning clothes…scandal
Everything she does is a scandal…living in a nice home…scandal

Being a Republican…scandal

pastorjim67 on February 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Irony intentional or not?

lol

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Remember all those tired screes about how Palin would drag McCain’s Rino behind across the finish line in November. Looks like that didn’t work out too well. What is her excuse?

Bradky on February 18, 2009 at 7:52 PM

His erratic behavior on TARP made his behind too heavy for anyone to drag. She did save him from a Mondale-style blowout, though. 91% of Republicans had a favorable opinion of her after the election, according to Rasmussen.

Jim62sch on February 18, 2009 at 7:56 PM

OH HELL NO! If its good for the goose its good for the gander! Don’t even freaking go there! If you want Gov. Palin to pay back money baby you better expect that from every damn governor! What other state gives money back to its constituents? She is more than fair…they hate her because she is a good person, a good mother, a good wife!

Eyvonne on February 18, 2009 at 7:57 PM

JetBoy: Do you have a link to the poll itself, and not a report on the poll? It also _highly_ depends on what ‘likely voter’ means. Realize that if they asked me if I would likely to vote for Crist, I would say no, and then they wouldn’t ask me the question about the approval rating. In other words, trying to use this poll to claim that Crist is a good candidate may be employing circular logic.

There is also apparently an issue with the validity of the poll, based on the number of respondents.

What conservatives need is a candidate (or an issue) that will _increase the likely voter pool_, not just to shift voters.

I thank you, though, for providing this information.

Scott H on February 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

McCain’s yips with TARP.

Spirit of 1776 on February 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Yeppers, that is a big part of it besides not going after Obama and being basically incoherent on economic policy.

goat on February 18, 2009 at 7:58 PM

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