Bush spent $2T in his final 6 months.

angryed on February 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM

angryed, I believe you forgot to link us to a credible source that would support that figure.

jbh45 on February 18, 2009 at 8:51 AM

$700B TARP
$85B AIG bailout
$30B Bear Sterns bailout
$300B mortgage bailout
$150B stimulus check bailout
$15B GM/Chrysler bailout
$25B Citi bailout (on top of the tarp money)

Interest to be paid on all these bailouts…$300B

Add it all up and it’s not quite 2 trillion, but pretty damned close.

Bush spent $2T in his final 6 months.

angryed on February 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM

angryed, I believe you forgot to link us to a credible source that would support that figure.

txaggie on February 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Hey I agree, it was a mistake. I just don’t see what is to be gained by having Rove be another one to hang his head and acknowledge it. Bottom line he knows communication and was probably fully aware that any statement like that coming from him would be front and center in the media spotlight for ages. I think he knows he can’t concede an inch with the media and he is wise to avoid giving them fodder.

As it is, both men will make good agents of advice for future GOP leaders, but will likely not be in the forefront as in the past.

As for the video, Rove held his own, as expected.

msmveritas on February 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM

I wasn’t trying to bash Bush. I think the guy got the shi%#%^ end of the stick for almost his entire presidency. I honestly believe he was an above average president, but he did make some serious mistakes while he was president. Not controlling the border was one of them.

It will have to be loud indeed to get the media to notice; they bought into the Obama spin that Republicans just wanted to sit on their hands and watch the economy fail, despite at least two formal alternatives to Porkulus presented during the debate.

This makes it sound like the MSM was duped into towing the Obama line. They shouldn’t be let off the hook so easily. After all we already know that some of them want to make this presidency work.

Rove, of course, never said anything close to that. Rather, he observed everyone is entitled to an opinion, even under the Obama administration.

Which makes your comment stupid and provably wrong.

See how that works, when properly implemented?

That is 1000 times worse than what Rove is talking about. Bush spent $2T in his final 6 months. Which is why when Obama is spending $850B on his “stimulus” nobody blinks an eye anymore.

Thank you to Rove for appearing and informing the liberal audience who have probably never heard of this cause of the current meltdown!

God bless America, but it can all go to hell, thank you

foxone on February 17, 2009 at 8:50 PM

What?

Tonight he was on Beck and couldn’t bring himself to say Bush did anything wrong w/ the border for instance. Anyone who truly is smarter than a cornflake knows Bush dropped the ball on that one big time.

txaggie on February 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM

IMO, there’s enough people out there beating Bush every chance they get. I am not thrilled with this hang your head strategy Michael Steele is adopting. As there is no disputing mistakes were made, they’ve been acknowledged, it is time to move on.

When Obama won it was not a referendum on rolling back welfare reform. It wasn’t a referendum on having big government spend us into oblivion with a trumped up “stimulus” package. We saw how very few people who voted for Obama had any idea Dems ran Congress and their involvement in Fannie and Freddie. Whatever mistakes Republicans made they pale in comparison to the horrors of Pelosi/Reid of the past two years. Moreover, they pale in comparison to those yet to be made in the Obama administration. We had no clue how he would govern but if this stimulus is any indication of what is to come, people may come to view the Bush administration as the golden age. I thought we might get a rehash of Clinton after he lost the House and Senate, we’re getting Jimmy Carter on steroids. Get your sweaters ready.

Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard!

BPD on February 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Exactly!

Why would you characterize him as “polarizing”? James Carville is “polarizing”. Paul Begala is “polarizing”. Even Ann Coulter is “polarizing”. Why is Rove, in your mind?

capitalist piglet on February 17, 2009 at 6:37 PM

I believe he is polarizing because of where he was in the Bush years. They (the left) make Bush out to be somewhat smarter then a cornflake, so the person who is out-thinking them and winning elections must be Rove. His ideas on how to successfully create coalitions and divide the electorate so Bush would win were seen by the left as unfair. They worked and view Rove as the reason we had a 2nd Bush term.

Sometimes I agree with him while other times I don’t. Tonight he was on Beck and couldn’t bring himself to say Bush did anything wrong w/ the border for instance. Anyone who truly is smarter than a cornflake knows Bush dropped the ball on that one big time.

Lauer = fail

LAUER: How do you respond to that? Do you have credibility on this subject?

He has none.

getalife on February 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Oh, sure…and you do?

Go troll somewhere else.

And that’s a “Zing“? I dont get it.

orange on February 17, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Sorry, you are probably 20 to 50 IQ points short of being able to understand it.

Go back and listen to the part beginning “Even this Administration”

And also pay attention to the parts about “The new senator from illinois.”

orange on February 17, 2009 at 7:12 PM

The Zing wasn’t about his authority, it was about the glaring truth of what he was saying.

Was Matt singing this tune when Democrats were voting against the Surge and against funding the troops?