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Video: Did Porkulus kill welfare reform?

posted at 8:04 am on February 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Naked Emperor News did a little research into the claim that the stimulus bill was nothing more than a Trojan horse for the reversal of welfare reform, and appears to have found some truth to the allegation. According to Robert Rector at Heritage, shown speaking in this clip, Porkulus restores the profit motive to states in expanding their welfare rolls, which eliminated the key mechanism of reform established by Congress in the mid-1990s:

NEN accuses Obama of racism in this clip by apparently framing the problem of fighting welfare reform as an America that doesn’t want to help black people. I’m not sure that’s what Obama’s saying here; I think what he’s saying is that activists have to expand the notion of welfare past the old limits and include working-class people in order to gain political strength. Obama did just that during the campaign with his “tax cuts for 95% of the people”, which turned out to be refundables for people with little or no tax liability to begin with.

If Rector is correct and welfare reform accounted for the steep decline in poverty among black children, it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years.


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He is dismantling America in short order.

OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 8:08 AM

please you can now quit your job for “compelling family reason” and qualify for unemployment, that is a radical shift by itself.

rob verdi on February 17, 2009 at 8:10 AM

it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years.

BHO is counting on it having little or no effect until he runs for re-election. If the economy sinks after he’s re-elected, no problem.

jgapinoy on February 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Wow he and congress are destroying this nation faster than I ever thought they could.

boomer on February 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM

Welfare reform worked. Oh well, let’s screw it up anyway? This is what you get with one party rule.

Mr. Joe on February 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM

Nanny State running in high gear. Plus the creating of permanent voting blocks of people who just don’t want to work for a living, regardless of color. Doesn’t matter that we can’t afford it, we got a Triple A credit rating until the Dem’s destory that too.

Hog Wild on February 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM

it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years.

It’ll be devastating. Sooner or later, Democrats will not be able to borrow money and distribute it to its preferred constituencies, and a helpless generation from the Age of Obama will be in deep trouble.

forest on February 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM

Yep, Barack’s gonna pay for my gas. He’s going to pay my mortgage.

The lady was probably right.

BigD on February 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM

Notice from the Federal Government:

Due to the current economic crisis, the rise in the cost of living, gas, electricity, and the state of the Union, THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL HAS BEEN TURNED OFF.

milwife88 on February 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM

I guarantee people are going to figure sitting at home unemployed collecting benefits is more “fun” than going to work. The MSM is going to explain rising unemployment figures as a good thing.

Marcus on February 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM

Trojan horse

Beware of Greeks Democrats bearing gifts stimulus packages.

Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:21 AM

Hey, it’s not like there’s any political benefit to creating a permanent underclass who’ll depend on you for everthing and believe anything. Incidentally, how about that Chavez, huh?

Jim Treacher on February 17, 2009 at 8:21 AM

it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years

It may be interesting when more of “that population” fall into poverty, interesting won’t be the word when you and I fall into poverty.

Mark30339 on February 17, 2009 at 8:22 AM

wait a minute…You are applying logical deduction and critical thinking and that my friend is RACIST!

Jamewah on February 17, 2009 at 8:22 AM

Another good video thanks to Naked emperor.

And all there really is to say is… Amen.

lgodfrey88 on February 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM

And he’s managed to cause all this damage in only 4 weeks. We still have another 204 weeks left, and that’s if he only serves one term.

Doughboy on February 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM

What welfare reform?

As long as people like me work two jobs just to keep head above water financially and something in the cupboard while you’ve got fast-food employees running around producing kid after kid which requires government assistance (including what I pay in to Social Security, supposedly for my retirement) and their cupboards are bursting with food that has a good chance of going to waste… there hasn’t been enough welfare reform, IMO.

charliebrownat40 on February 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM

Just read some of the British newspapers to see the devastating effects that Labor policies have had on the underclass. The illegitimacy rate is soaring, there are families that have had several generations where no one has worked and crime is soaring.

Google the story of Shannon Matthews for an example of underclass boorishness at its most appalling.

Ellen on February 17, 2009 at 8:25 AM

Obama has a problem in that he has to cater to his left wing, and acquiese in such destructive policies. At the same time, he is already obsessed with “legacy” and his place in history. His identification with Lincoln, his Greek columns, his speeches in front of European landmarks….

He may be trying to remake the US into a socialist paradise, but if he tanks the economy or screws up on a lame foreign policy, he risks being remembered as Carter 2.0.

Churchill once said that “History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” Churchill was an historian, but even when he was gone, his actions and words, and the consequences of his policies determined his legacy.

Of course, Obama may have something in plan for the history itself (a WPA Writer’s Project? an official biogarpher?). Or maybe more Orwellian control of the historians and the historical meme, with the aid of the MSM (think how little attention Feith’s book on Iraq has received), and academia.

Wethal on February 17, 2009 at 8:25 AM

You can see the effect right now, it’s called Venezuela.

If you haven’t started planning for a radically altered nation and world, start now.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Between the illegals and welfare this country is going to hell in a handbasket and fast. Tomorrow we are going to hear the stimlus bill has started working already. There are 2 states already not paying taxes back to the people. Pretty soon it’s going to be 10 or 15 then what? I don’t see how this isn’t going to be a big snowball getting bigger and faster each day.

Brat4life on February 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM

In other rip off news. Drink in and savor the delicious irony of this.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

No, no, no, Obama is just trying to create JOBS.

ctmom on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

It’ll be devastating. Sooner or later, Democrats will not be able to borrow money and distribute it to its preferred constituencies, and a helpless generation from the Age of Obama will be in deep trouble.

forest on February 17, 2009 at 8:19 AM

As Margaret Thatcher once said, “The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”

Wethal on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Lincoln’s Civil War saved the country. Obama’s Civil War will destroy it.

Josiah on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

He is dismantling America in short order.

OmahaConservative on February 17

Yep. Crisis after crisis will be answered with the urgent need for more massive spending and expansion. The goal is to make as large a lower class as possible,, and to make that lower class poorer than poor.
These morons who are falling for this class warfare,,, pointing at the rich and demanding with Obama that the rich need to “pay more” and all this,,, well, there is a lot of wealth in America to pilfer. And a lot of it is in the lower and middle class. Compared to the rest of the world,, we are all rich! We all eat too much! We all live in big houses! We all have too many cars!
Hope and change, baby!

JellyToast on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Good. I like this back to the future game. Small government means the load gets lighter when there are more people pulling the wagon, fewer riders.

Have confidence in Chairman Obama’s Five Year Plan. ; ))

Angry Dumbo on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

How can they sustain this? Borrowing will become more harder and people with jobs won’t suddenly like paying more taxes. Has the Democratic Party turned into Nick Cage in Leaving Las Vegas?

ignorantapathy on February 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM

WELCOME TO THE “NEW” CARTER ADMINISTRATION

Government dependency is POWER redistributed…….

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 8:29 AM

Um, I thought we all knew that Obama is a socialist. Does this really surprise anyone?

Kafir on February 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM

As Margaret Thatcher once said, “The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”

That’s one quote from the dear Iron Lady I hadn’t yet heard. Thank you.

jgapinoy on February 17, 2009 at 8:31 AM

In other rip off news. Drink in and savor the delicious irony of this.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

The coins are a perfect metaphor for the man.

Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:31 AM

it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years.

It won’t be interesting; it will be devastating.

I don’t know if we will ever recover from his economic policies. Our only hope is to take back congress in 2010 and repeal as much of it as possible before its had time to fully take root.

The poor wretches who suffered under Communism had Thatcher and Reagan to save them. Who will save us from Obama’s wealth redistribution schemes?

Will some outside collaborative provide us with a version of Radio Free Europe, after they’ve shut down talk radio?

Buy Danish on February 17, 2009 at 8:33 AM

Except that there’s a large, very large drawback to vastly increasing dependence on government. It turns countries into third world entities, no longer rich, productive, wealthy, job or profit producing. Eventually there’s no one left out there to support the welfare system. The Dems seem too greedy to purposefully destroy the goose along with the golden egg. But then, far sightedness was never their strong point.

jeanie on February 17, 2009 at 8:33 AM

please you can now quit your job for “compelling family reason” and qualify for unemployment, that is a radical shift by itself.

rob verdi on February 17, 2009 at 8:10 AM

I read the Bloomberg Article. I see wanting to care for a sick relative. But my God we have turned into a nation of incompetent boobs. We are utterly incapable of taking care of ourselves it seems and we want the government to do it for us. I have this picture of America as a bunch of lost souls in an opium den.

A lot of folks said that the rich will stop being productive because there’ll be no incentives. It’s worse than that. I hear grumbling from even young couples in my unit about why they have to struggle in their budgets while the government is under writing some incompetent ass who doesn’t budget.

You folks having a hard time.

1. Don’t buy a home until you can afford it.
2. Buy a home within a budget you can manage.
3. Buy a home more “for your family” and less “for an investment”.
4. Get rid of your cell phone and get a cheap conventional home phone.
5. Get rid of everything you have as a habit or lifestyle that you can’t afford, until you can afford it.
6. Cook your meals rather than eating out every night.
7. Put down the X-Box control and get a second job like a lot of us did.
8. Put down the X-Box control and take some classes to qualify for a better job.
9. Don’t let that last twenty bucks burn a hole in your pocket until you spend it on a used X-Box game that you’ll sit for 3 hours an evening playing. Put it in a savings account.

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM

You can see the effect right now, it’s called Venezuela.

If you haven’t started planning for a radically altered nation and world, start now.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:26 AM

Some one said the other day that if Obama keeps up the pace of socializing our society, in another two years, Hugo Chavez will be QUALIFIED to run for POTUS.

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Well the word FUBAR comes to mind.

johnnyU on February 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM

it will be interesting to see the effect of Obama’s policies on that population in the next few years.

Basic Economics 101: Whatever you tax you get less of, whatever you subsidize you get more of.

PackerBronco on February 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Some one said the other day that if Obama keeps up the pace of socializing our society, in another two years, Hugo Chavez will be QUALIFIED to run for POTUS.
Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Would you be surprised if the dems were to abolish the native-born requirement for POTUS? Nothing would surprise me at this point; I shudder to turn on my laptop everyday or watch tv because of what I might see from Ogabe.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Will some outside collaborative provide us with a version of Radio Free Europe, after they’ve shut down talk radio?

Maybe some day Iraq will be broadcasting pro-democracy methods into the US.

Full cycle…

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Would you be surprised if the dems were to abolish the native-born requirement for POTUS? Nothing would surprise me at this point; I shudder to turn on my laptop everyday or watch tv because of what I might see from Ogabe.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:38 AM

They don’t need to abolish it; they’ve already ignored it.

Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:40 AM

In other rip off news. Drink in and savor the delicious irony of this.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Montel, say it isn’t say!…BWAHAHAHAH!!!

I see a lot of buyers regret in their future. Actually, he didn’t seem to upset with his hat purchase, what’s the problem with the coins. So his president is a sticker, a facade. He was expecting…?

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM

Well the word FUBAR comes to mind.

johnnyU on February 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM

As a son of a Marine that landed at Guadalcanal, CLUSTERF**K works too……….

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 AM

“too”

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:43 AM

The coins are a perfect metaphor for the man.

Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:31 AM

It’s change we can (not) believe in!!

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 8:44 AM

Obama’s slick. He has tea with conservative by day, and crushes them by night.

petefrt on February 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM

I am wondering what else is hidden in this bill that has yet to be found. And what will be hidden in future bills.
Why bother to go through the trouble of attempting to openly pass gun bans and other laws when you can just hide it in a stimulus plan.
The way life is right now in the US,, if a complete ban on gun ownership were discovered the Dems wouldn’t even have to acknowledge it. They could just repeat that the words “All private gun ownership is now outlawed in the borders of the US with penalties of life imprisonment or execution,” are not really banning guns but instead just much needed economic stimulus and that there is no time to waste bickering about the details. The media would just repeat the Dem line to anyone who opposed the law “Well, Senator so and so said this is not about banning guns, this is about stimulating the economy!”
Then it would just get passed and the RINO’s would complain about the lack of debate after they vote for it.

JellyToast on February 17, 2009 at 8:46 AM

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Amen to the checklist. Particularly when I’ve got a roommate who needs to pay a hell of a lot more attention to the last three items.

charliebrownat40 on February 17, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Question: Will governors be forced to accept this reform or can they modify it for their states? Or did they just get put in a no-win situation?

sherry on February 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Welcome to the world of “sit down money”, as it’s known in Australia.

OldEnglish on February 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Obama is too radical for this country. He was able to hide this during the campaign, with all the help he got from the MSM, but his policies will ultimately reveal who he really is. At that point, he is toast.

smellthecoffee on February 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM

They don’t need to abolish it; they’ve already ignored it.
Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:40 AM

Word.

The ‘rats can put whomever the like on the ticket and produce a form which “proves” citizenship of the candidate.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM

Obama’s slick. He has tea with conservative by day, and crushes them by night.

I can hear the 3 Amigos now – “well we did not have time to read the bill”,
or maybe people in Maine really want to go on welfare?

izoneguy on February 17, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Too many swing voters wanted this POS as POTUS. If they don’t like it, they should have read the fine print. If they’re fine with it, I say, “Thanks, morons.”

BuckeyeSam on February 17, 2009 at 8:53 AM

The talking heads and pols speak of Pelosi behind the stimulus.
IT’S ALL OBMAMA! He’s ben planning this crap for decades.
And if you think he wasn’t listening to Jeremiah Wright in all those sermons…?
HE WAS TAKING NOTES!!

Community organizer, President, slave master.

katy on February 17, 2009 at 8:55 AM

This will not stop until we refuse to fund this Frankenstein Socialism.

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 8:55 AM

The coins are a perfect metaphor for the man.

Disturb the Universe on February 17, 2009 at 8:31 AM

Yep, and I have no sympathy and feel not the slightest bit of compassion for any fool that bought one of those coins. They got what they paid for.

Oldnuke on February 17, 2009 at 8:56 AM

When anyone (or anything) accepts “assistance” from the government, they (by default) turn over a portion of control over their lives to said government.

In this type of scenario, government is providing something, and in return, they get to tell the recipient(s) what to do (or not do) with that which has been given. This is, in effect, a “Corleone-ian” style of “assistance”, in that it’s an “offer you can’t refuse”, at a time when you’re forced to accept, due to dire circumstances.

That’s why the liberal ideology calls for more “help” for people who they believe need it the most. They “assist” them, keeping them down in the level of need, sucking on the government’s “teet”, because that allows government to have control, and the more control government has over it’s citizens, the more the citizens “need” the government.

It’s a vicious cycle…One that liberalism cannot survive without.

Talismen on February 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Over the weekend Peter King was on one of the Sunday shows and he mentioned that not only will states be rewarded for adding people to the welfare rolls (move from state block payments to payments of up to 75-80% of the individual benefits) but a provision to make sure recipients are American citizens has been stripped out of legislation.

The country is bankrupt ($65-80 trillion unfunded obligations) and the Democrats want to tie more weight around a sinking economy…..nice.

moxie_neanderthal on February 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM

Obama is too radical for this country. He was able to hide this during the campaign, with all the help he got from the MSM, but his policies will ultimately reveal who he really is. At that point, he is toast.

Burnt Toast – but he will flip & flop and Uhhh, Uhhh, he will even claim he did not know what was in the bill……
Watch the video, black child poverty was reduced after welfare reform was enacted. This is a great issue to get Bill Clinton & Obama to clash on. Should be a good friction creator for Hillary as well. So watch out, Master Barack wants to put you back on the plantation and make you dumb & happy…
And don’t ask for anything until around October 2012 – bye….

izoneguy on February 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Question: Will governors be forced to accept this reform or can they modify it for their states? Or did they just get put in a no-win situation?

sherry on February 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Sherry,

Forced? Schwarzenegger’s banking on it!

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 8:58 AM

Atlas didn’t shrug. He had his lights knocked out.

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:00 AM

sherry on February 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM

Yes they will be.
It’s another way to erode states rights.

katy on February 17, 2009 at 9:01 AM

As ‘O’ told Charlie Gibson vis a vis the cap gains: ‘Maybe that’s true, and maybe it’s not.’ Facts be damned!

TinMan13 on February 17, 2009 at 9:02 AM

They want them pumping out bastards, errr future ACORN vote fixers.

marklmail on February 17, 2009 at 9:04 AM

What happens when the entitlement crowd of non-earners become a majority over the actual worker-earners? Is indentured servitude on the horizon?

Ris4victory on February 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM

Atlas didn’t shrug. He had his lights knocked out.

hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:00 AM

It was a shot between the legs. At least it feels that way to me.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM

This is the worst possible time to encourage states to find ways to milk the fed for more welfare money.

I can just picture what will happen here in MA again. It will be worse than it ever was. The state is broke, not quite California broke, but give it time. Every year pensions become a bigger burden, yet the true nature of this financial burden is kept quiet.

Meanwhile, the state actively seeks to increase the rolls of various entitlement programs. This will get out of hand. These hack workers will actually tell people how to best qualify for entitlements by being deceptive in reporting income.

For example, with the new mandatory insurance – a state worker actually called an office manager I knew and told that person to just submit a pay stub for the lowest paid week to calculate the benefit. People only need to submit one pay stub per year, I believe. This is a company that is very susceptable to seasonal fluctuations. A worker may only see 3 or 4 days of work in the winter, but see overtime in the spring, summer and fall months.

The agency goes out of it’s way to ensure the worker’s yearly income is estimated based on the slow winter months. This will happen with the welfare program again, on a much larger scale, and no one can do anything about it.

reaganaut on February 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM

There is one feat that O has accomplished that is kind of astounding. He has managed to make the right hate him MORE than the left hated Bush, and he has done it in 4 short weeks. Of course, he has stolen from us, lied to us, undermined Constitutional principles, and more or less dissed everything we stand for(also in 4 short weeks)and he’s either too arrogant and stupid to notice or he doesn’t care–or all of the above and is continuing apace. The great uniter is polarizing this country and the Legislative Branch so fast it’s more or less a blur. A really successful guy this. I cannot think of another Prez who has accomplished so much, with so many in so little time.

jeanie on February 17, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Tell me this is just a terrible nightmare and any minute I’ll wake up to find out that Sarah Palin is the President and Chuck Norris is Vice President.

Tell me, tell me, tell me….

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:13 AM

What I have a hard time understanding is why blacks, or anyone else for that matter, would want to be on welfare. If someone told me that they had so little confidence in my ability to make a living that I would have to rely on welfare, I would never want to listen to that person again. My dad pulled himself up from abject poverty and made brigadier general just before he retired from the military, so was it just because he was white or because he was determined that his family would not live in poverty? Someone please explain this to me. Yea, I’m a college prof, but I still don’t get it.

College Prof on February 17, 2009 at 9:14 AM

The have’s and have-not’s are being reversed. Seems to me there are only 3 outcomes:

We win if we fight back hard, but our peaceful quiet private lives are probably just about over.

We lose for sure if we think we can just stand still and watch and wait this out.

We move. Where?

Am I missing something?

JiangxiDad on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 AM

When LAZY, WELFARE, FAR LEFT, RADICALS realized that they could vote themselves a PAYCHECK…. they did!

(enter) The Messiah and his cult worshipers!

And Conservatives will pay the price because we are weak…

Mark Garnett on February 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Tax & Spend… This is what Liberals do. Check out this “tax & spend” effort coming at the good people of Oregon by way of Liberal ideology.

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_021309_news_oregon_beer_tax.126942e1.html?npc

Outrage brewing over proposed 1,900% beer tax hike

Lawmakers say tax will help budget; brewers warn of lost jobs

02:02 PM PST on Monday, February 16, 2009

By ERIC ADAMS, kgw.com Staff

PORTLAND, Ore. — Five Oregon state lawmakers want to impose a hefty tax on beer and have introduced a bill that brewers say would cripple them.
Video: Brewers hopping mad over tax

1900% beer tax proposed

Four Portland legislators joined a Springfield senator to introduce Oregon House Bill 2461, which would impose a $49.61 tax on each barrel of beer produced by Oregon brewers.

Another “name that party” moment!

http://www.repbencannon.com/

Hope & Change has arrived. New taxes will be issued on everything citizens enjoy. It’s called redistribution of wealth; take from the people and give to the government.

Keemo on February 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Will the last taxpayers please shut off the lights on their way out?

Done That on February 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Am I missing something?

JiangxiDad on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Adjust your windage ;)

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM

You would think Bill Clinton–if not chained to chanting the party line because Hill is now Secretary of State–would be up in arms over Obama effectively reversing one of Bill’s most successful initiatives: getting people off the dole and back to work.

redfoxbluestate on February 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM

We move. Where?

Am I missing something?

JiangxiDad on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 AM

Exactly.
This is the best place on earth and it’s being ruined.

tehd on February 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Another cheerful thought to make my day(don’t know about yours, but suspect that it may do the same). The minute O signs this Bill into law, every baby born in this country comes with a lien. A little cartoon cloud hangs over this child’s head with a dollar figure(yet to be determined)printed indelibly on it. I have not heard a single Dem pol even mention this, but then, I do not listen to them much.

jeanie on February 17, 2009 at 9:20 AM

Exactly.
This is the best place on earth and it’s being ruined.

tehd on February 17, 2009 at 9:19 AM

We won’t have to move, it will be taken away from us.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM

JiangxiDad on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 AM

You and I are asking the same questions. Whichever choice we make individually or en masse, our quiet private lives are likely to change in ways we wouldn’t have imagined 2 years ago.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Now, Henrietta Hughes and her ilk can really start milking the system…

OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I just thought of something. Welfare recipients don’t count in the unemployment figures, do they?

reaganaut on February 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM

We won’t have to move, it will be taken away from us.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Sounds like a casus belli to me….

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:24 AM

The $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act that passed Congress last week allocates $19 billion to establish centrally linked health data infrastructure to contain the health information of “each American” by 2014 and to set up the new office of the “National Coordinator for Health Information Technology.”

Though the legislation says there is a “prohibition on sale of electronic health records or protected health information,” there are five pages of exceptions to the prohibition that include research, treatment of an individual, or a decision by the Secretary of Health and Human Services to wave the prohibition

I’ve tried to post this three times with a providing link, but it just disappears. It’s from CNS News dot com.

“As the pendulum swings……so does America—from the gallows of socialism.” (Rovin)

Rovin on February 17, 2009 at 9:25 AM

I just thought of something. Welfare recipients don’t count in the unemployment figures, do they?

reaganaut on February 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM

No…you have to add 6% to the unemployment figure to see the actual total. They changed the way they put these figures together years ago for some political crap.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:26 AM

Of course that 6% should be adjusted up as we speak. It is a sleight-of-hand kinda like using SS reserves to help balance the budget during the Clinton years.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Meanwhile the market will open down 250 points on, among other things, concerns of some European currency collapse.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Well, we see Obama’s solution for lowering unemployment.

The thing is, this will lead to more corruption, but the sad fact is, a good chunk of welfare recipients simply migrated from welfare to SSDI.

The change here is that people won’t have to work as hard to come up with disabilities.

reaganaut on February 17, 2009 at 9:33 AM

In my peabrain during the election (as if THAT makes any difference), didn’t Obama, when asked what he had been wrong on, reply that he had been originally against workfare but was proved wrong? Didn’t Obama admit “ending welfare as we knew it” had been a great success, that people did become more responsible? Was I in some sort of my own private fog or time loop? Does anyone else remember this statement that obviously has it’s own expiration date?

marybel on February 17, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Sounds like a casus belli to me….

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. We need to get some solid conservatives into Congress and the Senate in 2010. Start saving your pennies for campaign contributions.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Walter Williams, Professor of Economics, George Mason University (who, coincidentally, is a Black American—just so some of the skeptics on this list can’t say it’s a racist comment) sez

Imagine you see a person at work taking buckets of water from the deep end of a swimming pool and dumping them into the shallow end in an attempt to make it deeper. You would deem him stupid. That scenario is equivalent to what Congress and the new President proposes for the economy.” — Walter Williams

Keemo on February 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Will the last taxpayers please shut off the lights on their way out?

Done That on February 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM

That can actually be done. Fairly easily.

Oldnuke on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Let’s just hope and pray the damage done in two years won’t be irreparable by 2010.

OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Did you know the president’s name is really an acronym�

One Big Ass Mistake America

Keemo on February 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Will the last taxpayers please shut off the lights on their way out?
Done That on February 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Things won’t end that quietly.

Bishop on February 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM

reaganaut on February 17, 2009 at 9:33 AM

It started years ago with ADD and has expanded since then. The welfare queens found a legal way to steal money. Rather than setting up fake addresses or using dead relatives, now they just have more children, coach them on how to act up and qualify for disability. Its another gift from ACORN and other community “counseling” groups.

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

genso on February 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM
Yeah! The markets don’t seem to like the stimulus or obama very much so far.

jeanie on February 17, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

“Hope” is for fools & romantics.

We need to get some solid conservatives into Congress and the Senate in 2010. Start saving your pennies for campaign contributions.

RadioFreeUSA on February 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM

I know you mean well, but this kind of refrain now sounds like a crack junkie.

That can actually be done. Fairly easily.

Oldnuke on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Easy, yes. Trivial, no.

LimeyGeek on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Did you know the president’s name is really an acronym�

One Big Ass Mistake America

Keemo on February 17, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Bolshevik Amerikkan Radical A$$hole Comrade Kommunist.

OmahaConservative on February 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM

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