Video: Bristol Palin says abstinence “not realistic”
posted at 9:30 am on February 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
I’m of two minds on this clip. Bristol Palin isn’t running for office, but she had to know that doing big-media interviews would mean that she had to have an answer for some political issues surrounding her teen pregnancy. After all, for what other reason would Greta Van Susteren invite her onto her show?
GRETA: I don’t want to pry too personally, but obviously contraception is an issue here. Is that something that you were lazy about or not interested in, or do you have a philosophical or religious opposition to it, or –
BRISTOL: No, I don’t want to get into detail about that. But I think abstinence is like … I don’t know how to put it, like … the main … Everyone should be abstinent, but it’s not realistic at all.
GRETA: Why?
BRISTOL: Because — I don’t want to get into detail about it.
GRETA: [crosstalk] Just big picture, not about you –
BRISTOL: Because it’s more and more accepted.
Of course, acceptance is why many people want abstinence taught. The entire idea is to push back against the acceptance of sexual activity among those who are ill-equipped to handle the emotional, health, and financial consequences of sexual activity. That doesn’t mean that we don’t teach about contraception as well — it always amazes me when people consider the two mutually exclusive — but that explaining that only abstinence gives one complete protection against pregnancy and STDs in ways that condoms do not, as well as the risks of exploitation.
I had to laugh at Greta’s question about religious objections towards contraception keeping Bristol from using them to prevent pregnancy. I haven’t yet known of a religion that objects to contraceptives but not to extramarital sex. Catholics most famously object to contraception, and years ago my pastor discussed this with my young adult group. He pointed out that having made the decision to sin with extramarital sex, using a condom would really be the least of our worries.
In case you need a lift after this clip, though, check out this video from Jim at Gateway Pundit. Guess what Bristol thinks of bloggers obsessed with the pregnancies of herself and her mother? Gold:
Update: I second what Ace says — Bristol has a lot of courage in discussing this topic on national television. Also, please recall what I wrote when this story broke at the Republican convention. She and her family did the right thing when it counted, and we should remember that when watching this.
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psst boy yeah 57 states. snort giggle havin fun
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Come on guys. You can recognize a good Bush quote when you see one right? Please?
“Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?”- January 11, 2000- George W Bush
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:11 PM
My favorite Obama blooper reel.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Really? The administrators of this site don’t like to have any fun is that what you’re telling me?
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Nope. They like having fun. However, boorish and hateful Trolls do give them (and us) gas, however. And these Trolls usually wind up saying something so stupid and hateful that they get themselves banned. That’s what Joey was saying to you.
kingsjester on February 17, 2009 at 8:26 PM
Methinks booyah is only the first of the libtards who signed up yesterday to show themselves.
Speedwagon82 on February 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Boyyeah are you watching the bloopers?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Underfunded? Contraceptive use is taught in most high schools in this country. How bloody difficult is it to figure out how to put on a condom? The instructions are on the box. Three clicks on any internet browser can get you detailed pictures and instructions. It doesn’t take a genius to figure this out. Kids don’t act responsibly because the nature of the act itself doesn’t lend itself to rational thought.
You have no idea the circumstances surrounding this girl’s pregnancy.
ramrocks on February 17, 2009 at 8:31 PM
Wait Little Boyyeah, here’s one where he’s really articulate.
Massatootits
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:32 PM
Of course they do. Most inner-city schools don’t even have enough funding for science books let alone contraceptive use. Schools need better sex-ed funding.
You’re right about my arguing tactic but wrong about your claim. Study after study shows that comprehensive sex education reduces pregnancy:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080319151225.htm
http://www.hbns.org/getDocument.cfm?documentID=1676
http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/study-comprehensive-sex-ed-helps-reduce-pregnancies.aspx?googleid=30228
etc…
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Really?
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM
More blooper from Oblama boyyeah!
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
First of all the governments (state and fed) spend BILLIONS upon BILLIONS on education … New Jersey is a fine example of an education that has tons of funding and crappy results
Anyway,
Which do you want, money for science books or sex ed?
joey24007 on February 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
So, was Gloucester High in Massachusetts also suffering from under-funded sex ed programs?
ramrocks on February 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM
You’d be surprised in a country where 20% of the population thinks the sun orbits the earth.
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Both.
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:42 PM
You know, this should be none of our business. It’s our business because the Palin family agreed to be interviewed, and here we are.
Bristol sounds like a silly, stupid girl. I would have sounded exactly the same way.
I don’t think you can blame Governor Palin for Bristol not being willing to “keep her chin up and her skirt down.” That’s a Patsy Cliner. Isn’t it great?
Taking a sharp right here, I do think that climax has to be close to what it’s like to be with your Creator. I don’t think sex is just for procreation, but to distance it to far from that leads to all manner of trouble.
Scripture doesn’t really speak to this issue one way or another. The Onan passage has nothing to do with proscribing non-procreative sex or even masturbation.
The early Church took this passage, cast the Judaic underpinnings of it aside, and interpreted it in their own way, according to their own tastes.
Lifting and discarding the Levirate from the Onan passage in Scripture, substituting your own interpretation, and then just continuing on as if you have the right to do that is unconvincing at best, and perhaps sinful at worst.
For a little Church history here: during Augustine’s fight with the Pelagians, and according to Historian Paul Johnson, at one point in Church history, Augustine and a follower of Pelagius get into a little shouting match, and here is some of that, with a little background to put it in context:
Now read the following from the Greek Father, John Chrysostom:
John Chrysostom is healthy, Augustine is not.
Sarah Palin doesn’t owe anyone any explanation. But as Conservatives and as people who know that illegitimacy is an assault against the Little Platoon (that’s Edmund Burke’s term for the Family); break that down as has been done and you get where we are now. It’s not all that material, philosophically speaking, that Bristol isn’t collecting welfare payments. She has a kid, she’s not married, and the family of the father of her baby are Jerry Springer material.
We don’t have to attack Bristol but we don’t have to cut her slack we wouldn’t cut anyone else either.
As I said, it’s none of our business. Would that the family had the good common sense to be quiet about this.
Eirenic Rebel on February 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
or where a majority of Messiah voters did not know which party controlled Congress
and thought Sarah Palin was the VP candidate for the democrats
are you that Julio guy who works at McDonalds?
joey24007 on February 17, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Really?
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:39 PM
Naw. Forget I said it. You’ll find out on your own.
kingsjester on February 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM
lol, he started out that excited when he first got here. He slowed down a bit once he started getting slapped around.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Bristol Palin is 18 years old, if she wants to tell her side and a media outlet is willing to hear it than that is her right.
She has been savaged since day one and know she felt the need to talk about it.
It is her right to do so.
I don’t believe this is a Sarah Palin endorsed interview.
joey24007 on February 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Are you trying to say that all people are irrational when they’re having sex? And how is that even relevant when the decision to use a contraceptive occurs BEFORE the physical act? This is why people carry condoms in their pockets and women take the pill. That is being responsible and is what should be taught. Not hard to understand.
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
Hey don’t worry about me. I can keep this up all night. Provided you’re a woman (and you believe in safe sex and all that b.s.)
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:48 PM
unfortunately for you, you lost all credibility with your disgusting comment earlier
your opinions will matter little because you already revealed yourself as a vile and disgusting person.
too bad
joey24007 on February 17, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Are you hitting on me?
Geez I’m a guy Dude. Knock it off.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 8:50 PM
And yet you took time out of your day to note the post count and record a comment. Hmmmm. Wonder what that indicates?
Fed45 on February 17, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Good God no. Don’t flatter yourself.
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 8:59 PM
I’m only a vile and disgusting person on Tuesdays and every third Monday. Does this mean my opinions will matter tomorrow?
booyah on February 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Man you scared me. You never know when Ed and Allah let the weirdos in.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Do the jokes get better?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:03 PM
You still haven’t answered the question I posed here, you little limp-limbed weasel.
ramrocks on February 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
He won’t. He’s one of those selective Trolls. He ignores the funny Obama videos I posted for him too.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Your demeanor, and interpretation of my statement to seeming “so 19th century” makes you sound like a spoiled kid who had baby boomer parents afraid to say and stick to, ‘no, you can’t do that, that’s not good for you’, because they hated to see you cry when you didn’t get your way.
Good parents have healthy control of their children – Sarah and her hubby obviously didn’t have Bristol under enough control to have her act in her own best sexual interest. At 17, she was far more than old enough to have known better than to be so impulsive with Levi. But, she hadn’t learned that yet, showing that she received less-than-adequate parenting in regards to practicing self-control.
If her parents were wiser, they would have understood that it wasn’t a good idea to have their 18-but-who-carries-on-like-she-is-14-or-15 y/o daughter be interviewed like that, realizing that her mother is a potential candidate for President. It was embarrassing to see how immature she was, a poor reflection on her parents.
The fact that her parents didn’t stop her like they rightfully could/should have reveals them to be oblivious parental simpletons. I guess there was enough evidence out there to already have reasonably come to that conclusion though, and that interview was just more fuel for the fire! :)
Bizarro No. 1 on February 17, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Ed and Allah should get rid of these stinkin’ trolls…
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Couldn’t have said it better.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Beheading is becoming more and more accepted in some cultures too, but moral law derived from God’s Word provides good reason to say, “don’t do it!” Babies out of wedlock, single parents, abortions and much much more are consequences of moral relativism saying it is “more accepted.”
wepeople on February 17, 2009 at 9:16 PM
I take it you’re sinless?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:22 PM
I don’t think this will reflect badly on the Governor. Bristol is an adult and her statements and opinions are her own, not her mother’s. Also, there are too many instances of Presidents’ (and Presidential candidates’) children who did not reflect well on their parents. George Washington’s stepson was a disappointment. Lincoln’s younger sons were terrors who disrupted meetings. Before abstaining from the bottle, George Walker was not exactly Perfect Child for G.H.W. Bush. And does anyone remember Ron Reagan, Jr.?
Just saying.
familiar on February 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
No one’s free from sin (look at those vote totals for McCain and Obama this year, for example) but I’m darn close.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM
So your kids are perfect then, huh?
NoLeftTurn on February 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I am so proud. How can we be like you so perfect and odor free?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Bush/Cheney torture techniques are Nothing compared to what happens when my children fall out of line. That’s called responsible parenting. Threaten punishment, and that just may do the trick.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:29 PM
One way that helps is to support freedom (Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, etc.) at the ballot box.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM
You troll, don’t EVER say anything here about people going out into left field. You can’t stay on topic to save your ass. I’m in the military and every time you talk your conspiracy theory crap you piss me off. What we do to those bastards is nothing compared top the way they mutilated our soldier so STFU.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM
HEAR, HEAR! :)
Kids need to be properly taught to think first before they act. It really is that simple, isn’t it?
Bizarro No. 1 on February 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
What???
I guess that’s another Neo-con thing, us torturing them doesn’t increase resentment in the Arab world. No, they just hate freedom and apple pie…
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:42 PM
You condescending ass. Do you care more what chump things happened to a couple of them over your own soldiers?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Palin’s children are nothing compared to the walking disasters that Reagan’s children turned out to be. But Reagan was still the last century’s greatest president, one of the greatest we ever had.
Jim62sch on February 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Go tell the families of Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker about torture you dickweed civilian truther.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM
If you were captured by the enemy in Iraq or Afghanistan what you’d pray for is a bullet in the head like Sgt Malpin rather than the torture those guys served up. Maybe you missed the beheadings.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Why didn’t you take the time to address what I posted earlier about what we did for Arab and Muslim countries earlier troll. Did you think I’d forget that you ran away from those question and comments because you had nothing?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:51 PM
I never said that. I’m equally concerned when it happens over here than over there. Torture, secret prisons, etc. are wrong no matter who does it. This country prosecuted Japanese in WWII for doing over there what we have done to prisoners here. Nobody should be above the law, and the view of unfettered executive power is disturbing.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:52 PM
So the Palins should have waterboarded Bristol then?
You and the other self-righteous tools in this thread must have a crystal ball or something. Your ability to divine what goes on in the Palin household from thousands of miles away atop your high horse is truly remarkable.
NoLeftTurn on February 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Kosovo, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Somalia before Bill turned it into a warload hunt.
What did we ever do to the Muslim world except fight their wars for them and send them money to piss them off bad enough to kill us? HUH???
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:54 PM
We’ve done a little bit for Arab countries, but it’s out weighed by decades of intervention. We could do much more to win hearts and minds, but the most effective way to go in the right direction would be to get out of that region.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM
STAY ON SUBJECT YOU TOOL.
What did we do? ANSWER THE F*CKING QUESTION.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Expand on that comment. What intervention outweighs the “little” wars we’ve fought for them?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 9:57 PM
Supporting oppressive dictators that helped our interests, plus supporting Israeli adventures militarily. I’d bet much of it is the Palestinian cause. You’ve seen the disproportionate response to soem Hamas homemade rockets?
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Is that the line of reasonable you BS about around the water cooler with your lib friends that makes you so smart to them.
“SO we intervened in their business for decades and thats why they hate us of course.” “Crap, can’t really blame them now for blowing us up and lobing our heads off now can we?”
Geez is the world really made up of such simple mooks as you?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM
If someone comes into my house and takes a shot at me, can I only shoot back once? Is that the way war works my expert friend? What are you secretly a general of something.
Look , Israel gave them Gaza, a great flower industry, the capitol to run it and business experts and advice and they were paid back with rockets from Gaza in the first month. What do you expect them to do. Or is it too much to ask for a reasonable answer on the subject from a Jew-Hater?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:03 PM
I’ve said my piece. Why do they hate us, if not because of interventionism?
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:03 PM
Militant Islamic Fascism that wants Sharia law for the entire world.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:04 PM
You’ve said what little you had because you don’t have any details. You have nothing except Ron Paul bumper sticker cliches.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM
I’ll tell you what also. You’re no Conservative and you’re no Christian. You sound more like a leftist Moby trying to put down Palin. I don’t know of any Christian person who’s called someone a NEOCON. And I’ll tell you something else. I’m glad I’m not one of your kids growing up in your so-called Christian home. You talk about disciplining them comparing it to torture? You’re an idiot if you can’t use more reason than belt on children. Lazy, intellectually bankrupt approach to parenting. Maybe your kids should be taken away from you.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:10 PM
Yeah run away you punk ass. Come back when you have an argument and just aren’t parroting your Ron Paul cue cards.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Territorial imperative. This isn’t rocket science. They want to conquer the world, and impose their religion on all. Is this that difficult to imagine? The US still has its own needs in mind, but it left behind Manifest Destiny a loooong time ago. Yes, we dabble in nation-building. So far, our key project, Iraq, has turned out to be a success. The people there are more free than they EVER were under the Ba’athists. It’s come at a cost, but bringing freedom to any nation is always pricey, particularly in blood. This nation wasn’t freed by negotiation. Ireland didn’t gain independence through the UN. Kosovo isn’t where it is because of committee meetings.
MadisonConservative on February 17, 2009 at 10:16 PM
I’m one of the few conservatives remaining A.B. (after bush). Do you agree with Bush’s economic policy? What about foreign policy? Did you vote McCain? Yes’s are liberal, no’s are conservative. And you have no grounds to question my Christian faith.
I never use belt OR reason. Big wooden paddle with splinters is the weapon of choice. You’re never too old for it (up to 18). It works; my kids are like soldiers. Kids were better disciplined when more parents did this, and schools were allowed to do it.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM
Homemade rockets Dean?
Cut and Paste from Global Security dor org.
“The year 2008 saw a dramatic increase in the extent of HAMAS rocket fire and mortar attacks on Israel, with a total of 3,278 rockets and mortar shells landing in Israeli territory (1,750 rockets and 1,528 mortar shells). These numbers are double those of 2007 and 2006, years which marked a five-fold increase over prior years. There was also a significant increase in the number of Israeli residents exposed to rocket fire. Prior to 2008, the city of Sderot (about 20,000 residents) as well as villages around the Gaza Strip were the main targets of rocket fire and mortar shelling. In 2008, the cities of Ashkelon and Netivot came under attack by Grad artillery rockets with a range of about 20 kilometers. Later, during Operation Cast Lead, Ashdod, Beersheba, and other cities were attacked by a previously un-identified rocket with a range of 40 kilometers from the Gaza Strip. This rocket created a new reality in which nearly one million Israeli residents [about 15 percent of the entire population] were at risk.”
Home made rockets indeed. People use rhetorical slight of hand in propaganda all the time.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:20 PM
Uh, guys-she’s 18 (that means not a minor) and the interview was her idea. The second half of this interivew is being broacast tonight, BTW.
unwashed minion on February 17, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Do you agree with Bush’s economic policy? Mostly.
What about foreign policy? Completely
Did you vote McCain? Yes
Yes’s are liberal, (Why)
And you have no grounds to question my Christian faith. Okay, you’re the most judgmental and mean-spirited Christian I’ve ever heard.
Have you been overseas to any of the areas you’ve spoken of?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM
You use a weapon on your children?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:23 PM
Reading this thread is making me consider becoming a lurker. What a strange new group we have. I look forward to reading your debates.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Did you read my comment about the rockets and mortars. What about the flower industry?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Am I overboard Cindy? I’ll take what you say to heart.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:25 PM
I’m back. I’m convinced you SUCK.
There is no appeal.
You are a pathetic, horrific “person.”
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Israel kills more people in five minutes of attacks than a month of Palestinian strike. Plus they aren’t completely without fault for getting attacked, as they are constantly expanding their settlements into even more Palestinian land. You wouldn’t like it if I took your home.
Because Republican policy under Bush isn’t consistent with the Constitution and the principles on which our nation was founded. Conservative means smaller government and restrained federal power.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:28 PM
No, Darlin, absolutely not. I only commented earlier on this thread from work because Joey was coming down on Ed because he thought he was ambushing Gov. Palin. I am really disturbed how hateful and judgmental some folks have been against this poor kid. And who died and made this woman Debbie Schlessel King. I have only heard of her, never read her stuff, now I wouldn’t read her on a bet.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2009 at 10:30 PM
Ok. Anti-semite, much?
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Wow. Just, wow. You are really a tool, aren’t you? Paddling your kids is one thing. Foisting your sickly opinions onto your children is nothing short of heinous child abuse.
Tennman on February 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Answer this one question truthfully. Do you believe Israel has the right to exist as a state? It’s a yes or no answer and I don’t want an essay.
Bush was more liberal than I would have cared for but he defended us for 7 years and kept a strong economy for 5. I guess this Christian isn’t driven to hate the President like you are when I don’t get things completely my way.
Ron Paul would be an isolationist nightmare and because of that do far worse on the economy. He hates his own military.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM
and neither was Thomas Jeffersons’
where does the executive have the authority to buy land from a foreign power?
where does the executive have the power to send the navy to battle pirates off the coasts of Africa?
John Adams:
Where in the Constitution does it allow for the suspension of free speech re the alien and sedition acts?
I love these Paultards who bash a President for doing something that their ideal President did.
The founders are not there to SUIT YOUR PURPOSES, history is history and fact is fact
joey24007 on February 17, 2009 at 10:35 PM
I
If I knew the county you lived in, you would be in jail right now, you f*ck.
I can’t believe you would admit this, let alone brag about it. You are an evil piece of sh*t.
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Gotcha. Yeah I used to love to read Deb S. Never go to her site again. Hope she just stays away from here.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM
What does ‘sinlessness’ have to do with either of our posts? You need to look into a mirror intently and figure out why you came to the weird, inappropriate conclusion you did.
Bristol is an astoundingly immature kid raised by immature parents – that’s factual. That family is not a good role model for other families to follow.
Bizarro No. 1 on February 17, 2009 at 10:37 PM
OHHHHH LOOOOK. Bizaroo No. 1 found a friend!!!
portlandon on February 17, 2009 at 10:38 PM
I think they are privelaged to be in the position where they are in possession to most of the area’s land.
Ron Paul’s foreign policy is hardly isolationist; it is all about peace, commerce, and honest friendship (that is also the subtitle of his FoPo book, by the way).
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM
I stay away from Palin threads for the most part. It’s too early for me to defend anyone to the death although I am inclined to think highly of Gov. Palin. And I will go into Mom mode in a heartbeat. Normally it is SOS, different day but with the new folks it has been interesting. I think The Dean is going to get old fast.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
You know what? You suck, too. I would love to meet you after you step away from that monitor.
Is this a ‘tard invasion today, or what?
Dude, you suck!
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
Okay, you won’t comment about your rocket generalization. You’re pwned. Got it. Okay on the secong part, I’d be upset if I were an Israeli and someone invaded my home.
“The history of the proposed modern Palestinian state, which is expected to be formed from the territories of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, began with the British Mandate of Palestine. From Sept. 29, 1923, until May 14, 1948, Britain controlled the region, but by 1947, Britain had appealed to the UN to solve the complex problem of competing Palestinian and Jewish claims to the land. In Aug. 1947, the UN proposed dividing Palestine into a Jewish state, an Arab state, and a small international zone. Arabs rejected the idea. As soon as Britain pulled out of Palestine in 1948, neighboring Arab nations invaded, intent on crushing the newly declared State of Israel. Israel emerged victorious, affirming its sovereignty. The remaining areas of Palestine were divided between Transjordan (now Jordan), which annexed the West Bank, and Egypt, which gained control of the Gaza Strip.”
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:41 PM
You can’t answer the question because you’re a Jew-hater. Got a sheet for Saturday nights?
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM
They’re not having sex and popping out unwed kids. Parents always used to be like me. I’m a throwback to a simpler time when parenting worked and parents genuinely cared what happened to their children. If they don’t, you get a Bristol Palin.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:42 PM
You are my hero. Well said.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Ohhhh, you swore in an acronym. I’m going to tell on you to all of the new PERFECT Christians that signed up yesterday.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Cute, with the Hot Air link to your screen name.
You, sir, are a dangerous person. Either that, or you are a sociopath of mind-blowing proportions.
I challenge you here. What state and city do you live in? I have some serious issues with what you’ve said here.
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Dittos
Now say something mean about MadCon
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Well I know God will forgive me for both the acronym and the fact that I don’t give a flying flip about our new PERFECT Christians. I like the fallible ones better.
Cindy Munford on February 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
Self-righteous and arrogant. Big reason I walked away from my Deacon post was folks like you.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM
This is the internet tough guy pose, this is an example of how you show your real big tough neo-con warmonger bonafides.
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM
I thought this was a thread about Bristol Palin.
ramrocks on February 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM
I like all Christians. I mistrust the ones that think they have all the answers. The ones that think they’re raising their kids a little bit better than everyone else. The one that bring to life that stereotype the left likes to slap on our foreheads.
hawkdriver on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
You, sir, are violating a number of statutes that I assume exist across a large number of states. I only pray the administrators of this site have seen fit to note your IP and have reported it to the proper authorities.
One does NOT brag- especially PUBLICLY- about beating your children with lumber. It is simply not done. Ever. I wish I had five minutes with you alone to “enlighten” you.
EPIC BAN.
wccawa on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
What else is there to say, she’s an ignorant whore, along with here parents.
Sorry, but I have to leave for now. :(
The Dean on February 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM
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